RE: [Flashcoders] Uncover the Flash Files
Hi, Very good point guys, it's a shame we missed that one; we will add a scroll this week. Regarding the way we present the information, that was the whole point mixing fancy design near "experimental" and keep accessibility to content. Not that this site required that kind of design but some do, like brand sites. So if you need that kind of experience, here we just demonstrate that we don't need to penalize them on issues like SEO, bookmarks, etc. Not that this information wasn't exist if you look for it theirs a lot info about this (see links below); our goal was to unify the info in one single place and start a debate on how we can make these better. http://www.flashloaded.com/flashcomponents/fcmspro/ http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/ http://www.asual.com/swfaddress/ http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/ufo/ Anyways that's why I post the link here, this site is certainly not perfect but let's work together to enhances the features and the reputation of "flash 99% bad" might change. My two Canadian cents - Fred -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Snepo - Arse Envoyé : June 8, 2007 10:56 PM À : flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Objet : Re: [Flashcoders] Uncover the Flash Files I also missed content because of the window size. The Flash Times link, for example, cannot be scrolled to if the window is to small. Fonts are hard to read, no preloader, mystery meat navigation etc Why don't you just offer the information in a usable and clear fashion... no wonder there is a lot of anti-flash sentiment of this is how we address the issues. A On 09/06/2007, at 9:03 AM, Glen Pike wrote: > Hi, > >Looks nice, except I only have a 1024 x 768 monitor - you are > not really establishing a good case for flash being used to create > usable sites because the bottom part of the page is cut off in my > browser... > >Make it work before making it look good - then Jakob will shut up. > >Glen > > Frederic Caron wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> Since there have been many rumours circulating about Flash - >> monolithic 100% >> Flash-based sites are complex and unmanageable, they can't be >> optimized to >> be search engine friendly, they can't be bookmarked, and sending a >> URL of a >> specific page is next to impossible. But is any of that really true? >> With all the bad press surrounding Flash sites, we have decided to >> create a >> Website to put an end to the biggest misconceptions, including: >> * SEO-friendly Flash sites >> * Accessibility for disabled users >> * Browser functionalities of 100% Flash sites >> * Bookmarking >> * Deep linking >> * The use of Express Install >> * Three-tier architectures >> * Content management systems >> * Analytics >> Rifle through the Flash Files and be part of the investigation. We >> want your >> feedback. Do you agree? Do you disagree? Have anything to add? >> Tell us what >> you think about the arguments presented. Do your friends have the >> same >> opinion? Let them know about the site. Let's spark a worldwide >> debate! >> Just drop us an email with any questions and/or comments! >> http://www.the-flash-files.com >> Frédéric Caron Flash team lead >> Nurun inc. >> www.nurun.com >> Tel : (514) 392 1292 # 2128 >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >> To change your subscription options or search the archive: >> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >> Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >> Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >> http://www.figleaf.com >> http://training.figleaf.com >> >> >> > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Uncover the Flash Files
Hi, cool site, nice to have all those 'misconceptions' and other helpful info combined. It does fall off the screen, (just as it would with a wrong css sheet). keep it up JC On 6/9/07, Snepo - Arse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I also missed content because of the window size. The Flash Times link, for example, cannot be scrolled to if the window is to small. Fonts are hard to read, no preloader, mystery meat navigation etc Why don't you just offer the information in a usable and clear fashion... no wonder there is a lot of anti-flash sentiment of this is how we address the issues. A On 09/06/2007, at 9:03 AM, Glen Pike wrote: > Hi, > >Looks nice, except I only have a 1024 x 768 monitor - you are > not really establishing a good case for flash being used to create > usable sites because the bottom part of the page is cut off in my > browser... > >Make it work before making it look good - then Jakob will shut up. > >Glen > > Frederic Caron wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> Since there have been many rumours circulating about Flash - >> monolithic 100% >> Flash-based sites are complex and unmanageable, they can't be >> optimized to >> be search engine friendly, they can't be bookmarked, and sending a >> URL of a >> specific page is next to impossible. But is any of that really true? >> With all the bad press surrounding Flash sites, we have decided to >> create a >> Website to put an end to the biggest misconceptions, including: >> * SEO-friendly Flash sites >> * Accessibility for disabled users >> * Browser functionalities of 100% Flash sites >> * Bookmarking >> * Deep linking >> * The use of Express Install >> * Three-tier architectures >> * Content management systems >> * Analytics >> Rifle through the Flash Files and be part of the investigation. We >> want your >> feedback. Do you agree? Do you disagree? Have anything to add? >> Tell us what >> you think about the arguments presented. Do your friends have the >> same >> opinion? Let them know about the site. Let's spark a worldwide >> debate! >> Just drop us an email with any questions and/or comments! >> http://www.the-flash-files.com >> Frédéric Caron Flash team lead >> Nurun inc. >> www.nurun.com >> Tel : (514) 392 1292 # 2128 >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >> To change your subscription options or search the archive: >> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >> Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >> Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >> http://www.figleaf.com >> http://training.figleaf.com >> >> >> > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Uncover the Flash Files
I also missed content because of the window size. The Flash Times link, for example, cannot be scrolled to if the window is to small. Fonts are hard to read, no preloader, mystery meat navigation etc Why don't you just offer the information in a usable and clear fashion... no wonder there is a lot of anti-flash sentiment of this is how we address the issues. A On 09/06/2007, at 9:03 AM, Glen Pike wrote: Hi, Looks nice, except I only have a 1024 x 768 monitor - you are not really establishing a good case for flash being used to create usable sites because the bottom part of the page is cut off in my browser... Make it work before making it look good - then Jakob will shut up. Glen Frederic Caron wrote: Hi there, Since there have been many rumours circulating about Flash - monolithic 100% Flash-based sites are complex and unmanageable, they can't be optimized to be search engine friendly, they can't be bookmarked, and sending a URL of a specific page is next to impossible. But is any of that really true? With all the bad press surrounding Flash sites, we have decided to create a Website to put an end to the biggest misconceptions, including: * SEO-friendly Flash sites * Accessibility for disabled users * Browser functionalities of 100% Flash sites * Bookmarking * Deep linking * The use of Express Install * Three-tier architectures * Content management systems * Analytics Rifle through the Flash Files and be part of the investigation. We want your feedback. Do you agree? Do you disagree? Have anything to add? Tell us what you think about the arguments presented. Do your friends have the same opinion? Let them know about the site. Let's spark a worldwide debate! Just drop us an email with any questions and/or comments! http://www.the-flash-files.com Frédéric Caron Flash team lead Nurun inc. www.nurun.com Tel : (514) 392 1292 # 2128 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Uncover the Flash Files
Hi, Looks nice, except I only have a 1024 x 768 monitor - you are not really establishing a good case for flash being used to create usable sites because the bottom part of the page is cut off in my browser... Make it work before making it look good - then Jakob will shut up. Glen Frederic Caron wrote: Hi there, Since there have been many rumours circulating about Flash - monolithic 100% Flash-based sites are complex and unmanageable, they can't be optimized to be search engine friendly, they can't be bookmarked, and sending a URL of a specific page is next to impossible. But is any of that really true? With all the bad press surrounding Flash sites, we have decided to create a Website to put an end to the biggest misconceptions, including: * SEO-friendly Flash sites * Accessibility for disabled users * Browser functionalities of 100% Flash sites * Bookmarking * Deep linking * The use of Express Install * Three-tier architectures * Content management systems * Analytics Rifle through the Flash Files and be part of the investigation. We want your feedback. Do you agree? Do you disagree? Have anything to add? Tell us what you think about the arguments presented. Do your friends have the same opinion? Let them know about the site. Let's spark a worldwide debate! Just drop us an email with any questions and/or comments! http://www.the-flash-files.com Frédéric Caron Flash team lead Nurun inc. www.nurun.com Tel : (514) 392 1292 # 2128 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Uncover the Flash Files
Hi there, Since there have been many rumours circulating about Flash - monolithic 100% Flash-based sites are complex and unmanageable, they can't be optimized to be search engine friendly, they can't be bookmarked, and sending a URL of a specific page is next to impossible. But is any of that really true? With all the bad press surrounding Flash sites, we have decided to create a Website to put an end to the biggest misconceptions, including: * SEO-friendly Flash sites * Accessibility for disabled users * Browser functionalities of 100% Flash sites * Bookmarking * Deep linking * The use of Express Install * Three-tier architectures * Content management systems * Analytics Rifle through the Flash Files and be part of the investigation. We want your feedback. Do you agree? Do you disagree? Have anything to add? Tell us what you think about the arguments presented. Do your friends have the same opinion? Let them know about the site. Let's spark a worldwide debate! Just drop us an email with any questions and/or comments! http://www.the-flash-files.com Frédéric Caron Flash team lead Nurun inc. www.nurun.com Tel : (514) 392 1292 # 2128 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
