[Flashcoders] What's your job title?
Hello everybody, Here's a non-technical question: what is your job title? For a long time I've been telling people "Flash Developer", although that shortchanges the consultation and on-the-fly design I do. Also, people outside the industry have no freaking idea what it means. Typically, if I'm not the designer, I work to help make the design more feasible for Flash. When it comes time to build I'm often making up the behaviors and adding special touches here and there. Anyone have any suggestions for a title that encompasses these ideas? thanks, Kirk · Kirk Roberts Fine Design Group (415) 552-9300 ext. 16 http://www.finedesigngroup.com/ · ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title?
I use Flash to create e-learning courses, marketing materials, etc., so my title is actually Senior E-Learning Architect - no flash in the title, but def. on my resume. Other jobs I have had using Flash, I have had titles like Multimedia Designer/Developer, Multimedia Consultant, etc. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title?
In the past 5 years I've been: Senior Business Systems Analyst Senior Software Engineer Software Architect Head of Development It's all the same thing at the end of the day. There's no standard job description or title. Why don't you just go with Flash Consultant or Architect. That would at least get people asking you why and you could explain it... =] !k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Roberts Sent: March 10, 2006 1:09 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? Hello everybody, Here's a non-technical question: what is your job title? For a long time I've been telling people "Flash Developer", although that shortchanges the consultation and on-the-fly design I do. Also, people outside the industry have no freaking idea what it means. Typically, if I'm not the designer, I work to help make the design more feasible for Flash. When it comes time to build I'm often making up the behaviors and adding special touches here and there. Anyone have any suggestions for a title that encompasses these ideas? thanks, Kirk . Kirk Roberts Fine Design Group (415) 552-9300 ext. 16 http://www.finedesigngroup.com/ . ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title?
Merrill, Jason wrote: I use Flash to create e-learning courses, marketing materials, etc., so my title is actually Senior E-Learning Architect - no flash in the title, but def. on my resume. Other jobs I have had using Flash, I have had titles like Multimedia Designer/Developer, Multimedia Consultant, etc. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com My business card reads "Flash guy" - A ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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JesterXL Ninja Turtle - Original Message - From: "Kevin Aebig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Flashcoders mailing list'" Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:38 PM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? In the past 5 years I've been: Senior Business Systems Analyst Senior Software Engineer Software Architect Head of Development It's all the same thing at the end of the day. There's no standard job description or title. Why don't you just go with Flash Consultant or Architect. That would at least get people asking you why and you could explain it... =] !k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Roberts Sent: March 10, 2006 1:09 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? Hello everybody, Here's a non-technical question: what is your job title? For a long time I've been telling people "Flash Developer", although that shortchanges the consultation and on-the-fly design I do. Also, people outside the industry have no freaking idea what it means. Typically, if I'm not the designer, I work to help make the design more feasible for Flash. When it comes time to build I'm often making up the behaviors and adding special touches here and there. Anyone have any suggestions for a title that encompasses these ideas? thanks, Kirk . Kirk Roberts Fine Design Group (415) 552-9300 ext. 16 http://www.finedesigngroup.com/ . ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Deseloper and/or King Shit of Turd Island On 3/10/06, JesterXL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > JesterXL > Ninja Turtle > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Aebig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Flashcoders mailing list'" > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:38 PM > Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? > > > In the past 5 years I've been: > > Senior Business Systems Analyst > Senior Software Engineer > Software Architect > Head of Development > > It's all the same thing at the end of the day. There's no standard job > description or title. Why don't you just go with Flash Consultant or > Architect. That would at least get people asking you why and you could > explain it... =] > > !k > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk > Roberts > Sent: March 10, 2006 1:09 PM > To: Flashcoders mailing list > Subject: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? > > Hello everybody, > > Here's a non-technical question: what is your job title? > > For a long time I've been telling people "Flash Developer", although > that shortchanges the consultation and on-the-fly design I do. > Also, people outside the industry have no freaking idea what it means. > > Typically, if I'm not the designer, I work to help make the design more > feasible for Flash. > When it comes time to build I'm often making up the behaviors and > adding special touches here and there. > > Anyone have any suggestions for a title that encompasses these ideas? > > thanks, > Kirk > > > . > > Kirk Roberts > > Fine Design Group > > (415) 552-9300 ext. 16 > > http://www.finedesigngroup.com/ > > . > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Does that make your boss' title "Splinter"? !k aka AstroOptimusSpeedRacerBoy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL Sent: March 10, 2006 1:46 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? JesterXL Ninja Turtle - Original Message - From: "Kevin Aebig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Flashcoders mailing list'" Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:38 PM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? In the past 5 years I've been: Senior Business Systems Analyst Senior Software Engineer Software Architect Head of Development It's all the same thing at the end of the day. There's no standard job description or title. Why don't you just go with Flash Consultant or Architect. That would at least get people asking you why and you could explain it... =] !k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Roberts Sent: March 10, 2006 1:09 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? Hello everybody, Here's a non-technical question: what is your job title? For a long time I've been telling people "Flash Developer", although that shortchanges the consultation and on-the-fly design I do. Also, people outside the industry have no freaking idea what it means. Typically, if I'm not the designer, I work to help make the design more feasible for Flash. When it comes time to build I'm often making up the behaviors and adding special touches here and there. Anyone have any suggestions for a title that encompasses these ideas? thanks, Kirk . Kirk Roberts Fine Design Group (415) 552-9300 ext. 16 http://www.finedesigngroup.com/ . ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Hello Kirk, KR> Here's a non-technical question: what is your job title? - Flasher hehe -- Ivan Dembicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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I've used the flashguy title before but kindda stopped when people would make a "" face to that title. Now im just another designer. :) ...helmut > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iv > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:13 PM > To: Flashcoders mailing list > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? > > Hello Kirk, > > KR> Here's a non-technical question: what is your job title? > > - Flasher > hehe > > > -- > Ivan Dembicki > __ > __ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] || > http://www.design.ru > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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I see these titles a lot: Interactive Developer Interactive Designer Motion Designer Interactive Architect Media Designer Media Developer But they basically mean nothing and are completely non-descriptive. But they sound really important. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iv Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 1:14 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? Hello Kirk, KR> Here's a non-technical question: what is your job title? - Flasher hehe -- Ivan Dembicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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grand poobah On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Helmut Granda wrote: I've used the flashguy title before but kindda stopped when people would make a "" face to that title. Now im just another designer. :) ...helmut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iv Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:13 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? Hello Kirk, KR> Here's a non-technical question: what is your job title? - Flasher hehe -- Ivan Dembicki __ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title?
> Interactive Developer > Interactive Designer That says nothing about the technology you use to create interactivity, plus interactive is such a broad term. I mean, a Powerpoint presentation is interactive. > Media Designer > Media Developer Could you be any more vague? Put "New" in front of "Media" and make yourself sound even lamer. > Motion Designer What's wrong with Flash Animator or just Animator/Senior Animator. > Interactive Architect Far too similar to Information Architect, which is an actual job. In addition, architects don't build, they plan. In other words, this title is bullshit. The only people who are impressed by fancy sounding titles are incompetent middle management asshats who use buzzwords in their everyday speech (i.e. they're not bright or clever but think that by using buzzwords they appear to be, kind of like using any of the titles above or saying inane stuff like "I'll ping you later" or "I don't have the bandwidth to go to Starbucks right now, but we'll interface later to discuss those TPS reports"). Now these might seem obvious, but... Flash Developer Senior Flash Developer Simple is best. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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> Interactive Architect > > Far too similar to Information Architect, which is an actual job. > In addition, architects don't build, they plan. In other words, > this title is bullshit. To expound on the above: Interactive Day Laborer I envision a bunch of Indians standing outside of CompUSAs across the nation every morning. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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" The only people who are impressed by fancy sounding titles are incompetent middle management asshats who use buzzwords in their everyday speech " I do freelance design and programming. Who the hell do you think my clients are? But hey thanks for the pep talk there Stevo and try to have those TPS Reports on my desk by 5. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Sacks Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:08 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? > Interactive Developer > Interactive Designer That says nothing about the technology you use to create interactivity, plus interactive is such a broad term. I mean, a Powerpoint presentation is interactive. > Media Designer > Media Developer Could you be any more vague? Put "New" in front of "Media" and make yourself sound even lamer. > Motion Designer What's wrong with Flash Animator or just Animator/Senior Animator. > Interactive Architect Far too similar to Information Architect, which is an actual job. In addition, architects don't build, they plan. In other words, this title is bullshit. The only people who are impressed by fancy sounding titles are incompetent middle management asshats who use buzzwords in their everyday speech (i.e. they're not bright or clever but think that by using buzzwords they appear to be, kind of like using any of the titles above or saying inane stuff like "I'll ping you later" or "I don't have the bandwidth to go to Starbucks right now, but we'll interface later to discuss those TPS reports"). Now these might seem obvious, but... Flash Developer Senior Flash Developer Simple is best. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Haha... I just about spit out a mouthful of sprite reading that. Not to mention that if they were here in California, they'd immediately be given driver's licenses, free health care and waivers for tuition to CA state colleges. Turns out I'm paying off $50K in student loans for the next 30 years for no reason - I should have just renounced my US citizenship, gone to Tijuana for the day and got drunk and then snuck back across and I'd have been all set. Silly me for following the law. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Sacks Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 1:15 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? > Interactive Architect > > Far too similar to Information Architect, which is an actual job. > In addition, architects don't build, they plan. In other words, this > title is bullshit. To expound on the above: Interactive Day Laborer I envision a bunch of Indians standing outside of CompUSAs across the nation every morning. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Here's a non-technical question: what is your job title? My business card is all white, with just one word in the middle: God. ;-) ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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My old one (biz card) when I owned my own gig said simply, "Weapons Expert". That got a lot of second glances, and broke the ice on a lot of conversations, that's fer sure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ryanm Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 1:52 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? > Here's a non-technical question: what is your job title? > My business card is all white, with just one word in the middle: God. ;-) ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title?
>>if they were here in California, they'd immediately be >>given driver's licenses, free health care and waivers for tuition to CA >>state collegesI should have just renounced my US >>citizenship, gone to Tijuana for the day and got drunk >> I envision a bunch of Indians standing outside of CompUSAs across the nation >>every morning. Wow. Quite a spew of severe "insensitivity to *actual* job titles people have had on this list", "political incorrectness", and "cultural/racial insensitivity" today. Would it be politically incorrect of me to call y'all rednecks? :) Maybe we should end this pointless stuff, alt+tab back to Flash.exe and Git 'Er Done! so we can all go home enjoy the weekend. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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How's this for broad. Director of Digital Media On Mar 10, 2006, at 3:07 PM, Steven Sacks wrote: Interactive Developer Interactive Designer That says nothing about the technology you use to create interactivity, plus interactive is such a broad term. I mean, a Powerpoint presentation is interactive. Media Designer Media Developer Could you be any more vague? Put "New" in front of "Media" and make yourself sound even lamer. Motion Designer What's wrong with Flash Animator or just Animator/Senior Animator. Interactive Architect Far too similar to Information Architect, which is an actual job. In addition, architects don't build, they plan. In other words, this title is bullshit. The only people who are impressed by fancy sounding titles are incompetent middle management asshats who use buzzwords in their everyday speech (i.e. they're not bright or clever but think that by using buzzwords they appear to be, kind of like using any of the titles above or saying inane stuff like "I'll ping you later" or "I don't have the bandwidth to go to Starbucks right now, but we'll interface later to discuss those TPS reports"). Now these might seem obvious, but... Flash Developer Senior Flash Developer Simple is best. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Come on, lighten up, man... They were jokes, and clearly in no way directed at anyone on this list. Unless of course, you *do* hang out in front of the CompUSA, in which case, I'm sorry. I'm getting back to work. And no, it wouldn't be politically incorrect; Call me a redneck all you want - if what I said qualifies me as such. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 1:57 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? >>if they were here in California, they'd immediately be given driver's >>licenses, free health care and waivers for tuition to CA >>state collegesI should have just renounced my US citizenship, gone >>to Tijuana for the day and got drunk >> I envision a bunch of Indians standing outside of CompUSAs across the nation >>every morning. Wow. Quite a spew of severe "insensitivity to *actual* job titles people have had on this list", "political incorrectness", and "cultural/racial insensitivity" today. Would it be politically incorrect of me to call y'all rednecks? :) Maybe we should end this pointless stuff, alt+tab back to Flash.exe and Git 'Er Done! so we can all go home enjoy the weekend. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Rich.Internet.Applicator aka Clark On 3/10/06, Kirk Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > Here's a non-technical question: what is your job title? > > For a long time I've been telling people "Flash Developer", although > that shortchanges the consultation and on-the-fly design I do. > Also, people outside the industry have no freaking idea what it means. > > Typically, if I'm not the designer, I work to help make the design more > feasible for Flash. > When it comes time to build I'm often making up the behaviors and > adding special touches here and there. > > Anyone have any suggestions for a title that encompasses these ideas? > > thanks, > Kirk > > > · > >Kirk Roberts > >Fine Design Group > >(415) 552-9300 ext. 16 > >http://www.finedesigngroup.com/ > > · > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title?
I have a mullet, rented a truck last week, live in the boondocks of Georgia which is 50th in the state for education, a lot of people lack teeth because we produce the most crystal meth out of all 50 states, and I was the only guy in high school to have a car (the rest had trucks). ...STILL, I'm sticking by my Ninja Turtle title whether the south rises again or not. Shi-fur, save matches! - Original Message - From: "Ettwein, Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:09 PM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? Come on, lighten up, man... They were jokes, and clearly in no way directed at anyone on this list. Unless of course, you *do* hang out in front of the CompUSA, in which case, I'm sorry. I'm getting back to work. And no, it wouldn't be politically incorrect; Call me a redneck all you want - if what I said qualifies me as such. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 1:57 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? >>if they were here in California, they'd immediately be given driver's >>licenses, free health care and waivers for tuition to CA >>state collegesI should have just renounced my US citizenship, gone >>to Tijuana for the day and got drunk >> I envision a bunch of Indians standing outside of CompUSAs across the nation >>every morning. Wow. Quite a spew of severe "insensitivity to *actual* job titles people have had on this list", "political incorrectness", and "cultural/racial insensitivity" today. Would it be politically incorrect of me to call y'all rednecks? :) Maybe we should end this pointless stuff, alt+tab back to Flash.exe and Git 'Er Done! so we can all go home enjoy the weekend. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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ROFL! Ok that is bar far the best one yet. - Original Message - From: "clark slater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? Rich.Internet.Applicator aka Clark On 3/10/06, Kirk Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > Here's a non-technical question: what is your job title? > > For a long time I've been telling people "Flash Developer", although > that shortchanges the consultation and on-the-fly design I do. > Also, people outside the industry have no freaking idea what it means. > > Typically, if I'm not the designer, I work to help make the design more > feasible for Flash. > When it comes time to build I'm often making up the behaviors and > adding special touches here and there. > > Anyone have any suggestions for a title that encompasses these ideas? > > thanks, > Kirk > > > · > >Kirk Roberts > >Fine Design Group > >(415) 552-9300 ext. 16 > >http://www.finedesigngroup.com/ > > · > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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>>Come on, lighten up, man... They were jokes, and clearly in no way >>directed at anyone on this list. So you're saying racial comments about Indians and Mexicans are OK on this list (or maybe even in general) as long as they are not directed at any one person on this list (even though there is a good chance there actually are persons or [related to persons as I am] of Mexican and Indian heritage on this list) and they are also in the form of jokes? Uh, ok. Well... I'm light, man - with my redneck git 'er done comment, and stupid smiley face, I was trying to be light back and not bring anyone down like I apparently did to you anyway - maybe you could lighten up a little too. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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I like that one. Is the applicator like a popsicle stick? :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of clark slater Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:15 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? Rich.Internet.Applicator aka Clark ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Dude... Chill, seriously. This little "subthread" has gotten so OT now, its ridiculous. Please note, I never mentioned Mexicans - unfortunately you were the one who took it there. I mentioned going to Mexico, as in the country. FYI... I live just minutes north of the border (and lived in Mexico City for a long time, for that matter) so it's clearly the nearest border to me that I could cross to come back in. Get off your "politically correct" high horse for a minute and realize that not everything people say like this is "racist". That's a really strong word to throw out - unfortunately more and more people are willing to do so these days when they have nothing cogent to say. Subthread over...kill it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:19 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? >>Come on, lighten up, man... They were jokes, and clearly in no way >>directed at anyone on this list. So you're saying racial comments about Indians and Mexicans are OK on this list (or maybe even in general) as long as they are not directed at any one person on this list (even though there is a good chance there actually are persons or [related to persons as I am] of Mexican and Indian heritage on this list) and they are also in the form of jokes? Uh, ok. Well... I'm light, man - with my redneck git 'er done comment, and stupid smiley face, I was trying to be light back and not bring anyone down like I apparently did to you anyway - maybe you could lighten up a little too. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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So the "they" in your e-mail was instead referring to the "Indians" OK. Yeah, I better just end this now - you obviously are on a much higher horse than I am and you sound like you're about to go ballistic on me. Sorry to touch a nerve, have a nice weekend. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ettwein, Josh >>Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:43 PM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? >> >>Dude... Chill, seriously. This little "subthread" has gotten so OT now, >>its ridiculous. Please note, I never mentioned Mexicans - unfortunately >>you were the one who took it there. I mentioned going to Mexico, as in >>the country. FYI... I live just minutes north of the border (and lived >>in Mexico City for a long time, for that matter) so it's clearly the >>nearest border to me that I could cross to come back in. Get off your >>"politically correct" high horse for a minute and realize that not >>everything people say like this is "racist". That's a really strong word >>to throw out - unfortunately more and more people are willing to do so >>these days when they have nothing cogent to say. Subthread over...kill >>it. >>-Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, >>Jason >>Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:19 PM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? >> >>>>Come on, lighten up, man... They were jokes, and clearly in no way >>>>directed at anyone on this list. >> >>So you're saying racial comments about Indians and Mexicans are OK on >>this list (or maybe even in general) as long as they are not directed at >>any one person on this list (even though there is a good chance there >>actually are persons or [related to persons as I am] of Mexican and >>Indian heritage on this list) and they are also in the form of jokes? >>Uh, ok. Well... I'm light, man - with my redneck git 'er done comment, >>and stupid smiley face, I was trying to be light back and not bring >>anyone down like I apparently did to you anyway - maybe you could >>lighten up a little too. >> >>Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >>NOTICE: >>This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain >>privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in >>error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any >>other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. >>___ >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com >>http://training.figleaf.com >>___ >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>http://www.figleaf.com >>http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Sorry for the rest of you who had to put up with this... My apologies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:50 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? So the "they" in your e-mail was instead referring to the "Indians" OK. Yeah, I better just end this now - you obviously are on a much higher horse than I am and you sound like you're about to go ballistic on me. Sorry to touch a nerve, have a nice weekend. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Now THAT was funny Jesse. LOL. Mullets are coming back - all started with Jerry Seinfeld. Gotta explain this though (maybe offlist): >>Shi-fur, save matches! ? Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL >>Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:17 PM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? >> >>I have a mullet, rented a truck last week, live in the boondocks of Georgia >>which is 50th in the state for education, a lot of people lack teeth because >>we produce the most crystal meth out of all 50 states, and I was the only >>guy in high school to have a car (the rest had trucks). >> >>...STILL, I'm sticking by my Ninja Turtle title whether the south rises >>again or not. >> >>Shi-fur, save matches! >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "Ettwein, Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "Flashcoders mailing list" >>Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:09 PM >>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? >> >> >>Come on, lighten up, man... They were jokes, and clearly in no way >>directed at anyone on this list. Unless of course, you *do* hang out in >>front of the CompUSA, in which case, I'm sorry. I'm getting back to >>work. And no, it wouldn't be politically incorrect; Call me a redneck >>all you want - if what I said qualifies me as such. >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, >>Jason >>Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 1:57 PM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? >> >>>>if they were here in California, they'd immediately be given driver's >>>>licenses, free health care and waivers for tuition to >>CA >>>>state collegesI should have just renounced my US citizenship, gone >> >>>>to Tijuana for the day and got drunk >> >>>> I envision a bunch of Indians standing outside of CompUSAs across the >>nation >>>>every morning. >> >>Wow. Quite a spew of severe "insensitivity to *actual* job titles >>people have had on this list", "political incorrectness", and >>"cultural/racial insensitivity" today. Would it be politically >>incorrect of me to call y'all rednecks? :) Maybe we should end this >>pointless stuff, alt+tab back to Flash.exe and Git 'Er Done! so we can >>all go home enjoy the weekend. >> >>Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com >> >> >> >>NOTICE: >>This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain >>privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in >>error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any >>other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. >>___ >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com >>http://training.figleaf.com >>___ >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>http://www.figleaf.com >>http://training.figleaf.com >> >>___ >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>http://www.figleaf.com >>http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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>>Sorry for the rest of you who had to put up with this... My apologies. Yeah, mine too. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ettwein, Josh >>Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 6:01 PM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? >> >>Sorry for the rest of you who had to put up with this... My apologies. >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, >>Jason >>Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:50 PM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? >> >>So the "they" in your e-mail was instead referring to the "Indians" OK. >> >>Yeah, I better just end this now - you obviously are on a much higher >>horse than I am and you sound like you're about to go ballistic on me. >>Sorry to touch a nerve, have a nice weekend. >> >>Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com >>___ >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>http://www.figleaf.com >>http://training.figleaf.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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It never was official, but I was frequently called "Resident Malcontent" or "the Wiz". The later moniker had nothing to do with my abilities, it was due to the over-consumption of coffee and diet pepsi, which lead to frequent bathroom breaks. > -Original Message- > From: Kirk Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:09 PM > To: Flashcoders mailing list > Subject: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? > > Hello everybody, > > Here's a non-technical question: what is your job title? > > For a long time I've been telling people "Flash Developer", > although that shortchanges the consultation and on-the-fly > design I do. > Also, people outside the industry have no freaking idea what it means. > > Typically, if I'm not the designer, I work to help make the > design more feasible for Flash. > When it comes time to build I'm often making up the behaviors > and adding special touches here and there. > > Anyone have any suggestions for a title that encompasses these ideas? > > thanks, > Kirk > > > . > > Kirk Roberts > > Fine Design Group > > (415) 552-9300 ext. 16 > > http://www.finedesigngroup.com/ > > . > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com > > > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Racial is not the same as racist. Let me break it down for you. FACT: Minority Day Laborers can be found outside of Home Depots. JOKE: Home Depot is a national chain like CompUSA is a national chain. FACT: Programming Jobs are being outsourced to India. FACT: Architects plan, Day Laborers do the work. JOKE: Mexicans outside Home Depot are to physical day laboring as Indians outside CompUSA are to code day laboring (the latter does not exist, hence the joke). It's not racism. Racism is prejudice via pointing out how another person or group of people are inferior due to race. Pointing out that a Mexican is a Mexican is not racist. Pointing out that Indians are taking coding jobs is not racist. In no way am I making any statement that anyone is inferior. Relax, whitey. Your white guilt is showing. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Dare we ask what gender? > -Original Message- > From: JesterXL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:17 PM > To: Flashcoders mailing list > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? > > I have a mullet, rented a truck last week, live in the > boondocks of Georgia which is 50th in the state for > education, a lot of people lack teeth because we produce the > most crystal meth out of all 50 states, and I was the only > guy in high school to have a car (the rest had trucks). > > ...STILL, I'm sticking by my Ninja Turtle title whether the > south rises again or not. > > Shi-fur, save matches! > > - Original Message - > From: "Ettwein, Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Flashcoders mailing list" > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:09 PM > Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? > > > Come on, lighten up, man... They were jokes, and clearly in no way > directed at anyone on this list. Unless of course, you *do* > hang out in > front of the CompUSA, in which case, I'm sorry. I'm getting back to > work. And no, it wouldn't be politically incorrect; Call me a redneck > all you want - if what I said qualifies me as such. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Merrill, > Jason > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 1:57 PM > To: Flashcoders mailing list > Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? > > >>if they were here in California, they'd immediately be > given driver's > >>licenses, free health care and waivers for tuition to > CA > >>state collegesI should have just renounced my US > citizenship, gone > > >>to Tijuana for the day and got drunk > > >> I envision a bunch of Indians standing outside of CompUSAs > across the > nation > >>every morning. > > Wow. Quite a spew of severe "insensitivity to *actual* job titles > people have had on this list", "political incorrectness", and > "cultural/racial insensitivity" today. Would it be politically > incorrect of me to call y'all rednecks? :) Maybe we should end this > pointless stuff, alt+tab back to Flash.exe and Git 'Er Done! so we can > all go home enjoy the weekend. > > Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com > > > > NOTICE: > This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain > privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in > error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the > original. Any > other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > > > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Capitalist Code-Whore ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Thanks, everybody, for your input! We don't actually have titles here, but not many people outside the company seem ok with that. It frightens and confuses them. With all of your helpful suggestions I'm sure to come up with something to placate the masses. thanks, Kirk · Kirk Roberts Fine Design Group (415) 552-9300 ext. 16 http://www.finedesigngroup.com/ · On Mar 10, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Martin Wood wrote: Capitalist Code-Whore ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title?
Lol I bet you got a little more input than you bargained for. After that thread I think no titles may be a good idea. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Roberts Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:38 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? Thanks, everybody, for your input! We don't actually have titles here, but not many people outside the company seem ok with that. It frightens and confuses them. With all of your helpful suggestions I'm sure to come up with something to placate the masses. thanks, Kirk * Kirk Roberts Fine Design Group (415) 552-9300 ext. 16 http://www.finedesigngroup.com/ * On Mar 10, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Martin Wood wrote: > Capitalist Code-Whore > > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title?
I've juggled "Flash Designer / Developer" and "Lead blah blah" for a few years, but as a freelancer, I'm pretty settled into (and enjoy) "Gun for Hire" just to add: Back in the initial dot-com days, one guy at the SF Downtown Center for Multimedia had the title on his card, door, etc: "Captain of Technology" -radley ---o Radley Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.radleymarx.com ---o On Mar 10, 2006, at 3:16 PM, Hairy Dog Digital wrote: It never was official, but I was frequently called "Resident Malcontent" or "the Wiz". The later moniker had nothing to do with my abilities, it was due to the over-consumption of coffee and diet pepsi, which lead to frequent bathroom breaks. -Original Message- From: Kirk Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:09 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? Hello everybody, Here's a non-technical question: what is your job title? For a long time I've been telling people "Flash Developer", although that shortchanges the consultation and on-the-fly design I do. Also, people outside the industry have no freaking idea what it means. Typically, if I'm not the designer, I work to help make the design more feasible for Flash. When it comes time to build I'm often making up the behaviors and adding special touches here and there. Anyone have any suggestions for a title that encompasses these ideas? thanks, Kirk . Kirk Roberts Fine Design Group (415) 552-9300 ext. 16 http://www.finedesigngroup.com/ . ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title?
New Media Designer Kirk Roberts wrote: Hello everybody, Here's a non-technical question: what is your job title? For a long time I've been telling people "Flash Developer", although that shortchanges the consultation and on-the-fly design I do. Also, people outside the industry have no freaking idea what it means. Typically, if I'm not the designer, I work to help make the design more feasible for Flash. When it comes time to build I'm often making up the behaviors and adding special touches here and there. Anyone have any suggestions for a title that encompasses these ideas? thanks, Kirk · Kirk Roberts Fine Design Group (415) 552-9300 ext. 16 http://www.finedesigngroup.com/ · ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Hopefully next month my job title will be "flash designer". until then its waiter :P ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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New Media Whore ;) On 11/03/06, murder design <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hopefully next month my job title will be "flash designer". until then its > waiter :P > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > -- Yotam Laufer | Flash Developer | mobile +44 (0) 79 205 17 212 | skype: ubermutt ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Magician in Art > On 11/03/06, murder design <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hopefully next month my job title will be "flash designer". until then >> its >> waiter :P ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title?
flash ho ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title?
"Flash for Food" -- Anggie Bratadinata Web|Graphic|Flash Jl. Raya Langsep 21 Malang - East Java I N D O N E S I A http://design.ibshastautama.com richard carr wrote: flash ho ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Is the applicator like a popsicle stick? :) Nah. I imagine it has a soft, rounded, end. LOL. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Relax, whitey. ROFL! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title?
> New Media Designer Either you missed the memo or you're being funny. Let's hope it's the latter. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] What's your job title?
I like that one... Selamat pagi pak, btw.. Apa kabar? Dimana anda? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anggie Bratadinata Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:49 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] What's your job title? "Flash for Food" -- Anggie Bratadinata Web|Graphic|Flash Jl. Raya Langsep 21 Malang - East Java I N D O N E S I A http://design.ibshastautama.com richard carr wrote: > flash ho ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
