Re: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?

[Josh Santangelo]

This page says that no, the iPhone does not run Flash or Java.

http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/01/11/the-ultimate-iphone- 
frequently-asked-questions/


There's six months to change things, though.

-josh

On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:59 AM, hank williams wrote:


It would be interesting, but I cant see what processor its using or
anything.

Hank
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Re: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?

[Geoff Stearns]

no way, apple already has a widget engine - Dashboard.




On Jan 10, 2007, at 5:05 PM, hosey hosey wrote:


Here is a crack pipe for ya.released in June, Apollo in June
(ish)Apollo runs the widgets on iphone?

Smoke em if ya got em
Hosey

On 1/10/07, Andy Herrman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm not sure if I believe that.  Analysts are saying that, but I
haven't seen any direct evidence that 3rd parties will be cut off
(haven't seen anything from apple claiming this).

I wouldn't be surprised either way.  I don't tend to install anything
on my phone as it is, so I doubt I would use it, but then again,  
there

might be some really nice things that could be added.

Though one of the arguments I've seen that suggests you *can* develop
for it is widgets.  Having a widgets engine like it seems to would be
kind of useless if people couldn't write them (I have a feeling most
of the widgets people use in OS X are "3rd party", and the phone  
would

probably be the same).

   -Andy

On 1/10/07, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> See "no third party apps" about 1/4th the way down the page:
>
>
http://mobileopportunity.blogspot.com/2007/01/impact-of-apple- 
iphone.html

>
>
> Jason Merrill
> Bank of America
> Learning & Organizational Effectiveness
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> >>Of Erik Porroa / Porroa.com
> >>Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:43 PM
> >>To: Flashcoders mailing list
> >>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?
> >>
> >>I'm interested in: will Apple let the posibility to open the
> >>capabilites of install third parties programs like IM's?,
> >>Will be a special version of FlashPlayer for the iPhone?
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Erik
> >>
> >>Merrill, Jason escribió:
> >>> In regards to this, Adobe's John Dowdell just posted this on
> >>> Flashcoders:
> >>>
> >>> "No responses from other staff members, because Apple  
usually locks

> >>> down
> >>>
> >>> news pretty tightly at a launch. I didn't know about this
> >>device until
> >>> the keynote, myself.
> >>>
> >>> I *do* know that Adobe staffers are currently working on
> >>getting some
> >>> good guidance out there, but the key steps of initial
> >>disclosure are
> >>> really up to Apple. I put up an early "i dont know" up on
> >>the weblog
> >>> yesterday, and added some useful third-party analysis  
overnight:
> >>> http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/01/ 
iphone_launch.cfm

> >>>
> >>> Summary: No info yet, but ASAP.
> >>>
> >>> jd
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?

[Josh Trout]

According to this article it looks like there will be flash (doesn't say
what version) on the iPhone:
http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/1/15/6632

Now I just need to convince my boss I'll need one for "testing"
applications. Should be interesting to see how the multi touch interface
works in flash.

On 1/10/07, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


In regards to this, Adobe's John Dowdell just posted this on
Flashcoders:

"No responses from other staff members, because Apple usually locks down

news pretty tightly at a launch. I didn't know about this device until
the keynote, myself.

I *do* know that Adobe staffers are currently working on getting some
good guidance out there, but the key steps of initial disclosure are
really up to Apple. I put up an early "i dont know" up on the weblog
yesterday, and added some useful third-party analysis overnight:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/01/iphone_launch.cfm

Summary: No info yet, but ASAP.

jd

--
John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA"



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Re: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?

[hosey hosey]

Here is a crack pipe for ya.released in June, Apollo in June
(ish)Apollo runs the widgets on iphone?

Smoke em if ya got em
Hosey

On 1/10/07, Andy Herrman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm not sure if I believe that.  Analysts are saying that, but I
haven't seen any direct evidence that 3rd parties will be cut off
(haven't seen anything from apple claiming this).

I wouldn't be surprised either way.  I don't tend to install anything
on my phone as it is, so I doubt I would use it, but then again, there
might be some really nice things that could be added.

Though one of the arguments I've seen that suggests you *can* develop
for it is widgets.  Having a widgets engine like it seems to would be
kind of useless if people couldn't write them (I have a feeling most
of the widgets people use in OS X are "3rd party", and the phone would
probably be the same).

   -Andy

On 1/10/07, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> See "no third party apps" about 1/4th the way down the page:
>
>
http://mobileopportunity.blogspot.com/2007/01/impact-of-apple-iphone.html
>
>
> Jason Merrill
> Bank of America
> Learning & Organizational Effectiveness
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> >>Of Erik Porroa / Porroa.com
> >>Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:43 PM
> >>To: Flashcoders mailing list
> >>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?
> >>
> >>I'm interested in: will Apple let the posibility to open the
> >>capabilites of install third parties programs like IM's?,
> >>Will be a special version of FlashPlayer for the iPhone?
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Erik
> >>
> >>Merrill, Jason escribió:
> >>> In regards to this, Adobe's John Dowdell just posted this on
> >>> Flashcoders:
> >>>
> >>> "No responses from other staff members, because Apple usually locks
> >>> down
> >>>
> >>> news pretty tightly at a launch. I didn't know about this
> >>device until
> >>> the keynote, myself.
> >>>
> >>> I *do* know that Adobe staffers are currently working on
> >>getting some
> >>> good guidance out there, but the key steps of initial
> >>disclosure are
> >>> really up to Apple. I put up an early "i dont know" up on
> >>the weblog
> >>> yesterday, and added some useful third-party analysis overnight:
> >>> http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/01/iphone_launch.cfm
> >>>
> >>> Summary: No info yet, but ASAP.
> >>>
> >>> jd
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?

[Andy Herrman]

I'm not sure if I believe that.  Analysts are saying that, but I
haven't seen any direct evidence that 3rd parties will be cut off
(haven't seen anything from apple claiming this).

I wouldn't be surprised either way.  I don't tend to install anything
on my phone as it is, so I doubt I would use it, but then again, there
might be some really nice things that could be added.

Though one of the arguments I've seen that suggests you *can* develop
for it is widgets.  Having a widgets engine like it seems to would be
kind of useless if people couldn't write them (I have a feeling most
of the widgets people use in OS X are "3rd party", and the phone would
probably be the same).

  -Andy

On 1/10/07, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

See "no third party apps" about 1/4th the way down the page:

http://mobileopportunity.blogspot.com/2007/01/impact-of-apple-iphone.html


Jason Merrill
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>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>>Of Erik Porroa / Porroa.com
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:43 PM
>>To: Flashcoders mailing list
>>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?
>>
>>I'm interested in: will Apple let the posibility to open the
>>capabilites of install third parties programs like IM's?,
>>Will be a special version of FlashPlayer for the iPhone?
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Erik
>>
>>Merrill, Jason escribió:
>>> In regards to this, Adobe's John Dowdell just posted this on
>>> Flashcoders:
>>>
>>> "No responses from other staff members, because Apple usually locks
>>> down
>>>
>>> news pretty tightly at a launch. I didn't know about this
>>device until
>>> the keynote, myself.
>>>
>>> I *do* know that Adobe staffers are currently working on
>>getting some
>>> good guidance out there, but the key steps of initial
>>disclosure are
>>> really up to Apple. I put up an early "i dont know" up on
>>the weblog
>>> yesterday, and added some useful third-party analysis overnight:
>>> http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/01/iphone_launch.cfm
>>>
>>> Summary: No info yet, but ASAP.
>>>
>>> jd
>>>
>>>
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RE: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?

[Merrill, Jason]

See "no third party apps" about 1/4th the way down the page:

http://mobileopportunity.blogspot.com/2007/01/impact-of-apple-iphone.html


Jason Merrill
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>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
>>Of Erik Porroa / Porroa.com
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:43 PM
>>To: Flashcoders mailing list
>>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?
>>
>>I'm interested in: will Apple let the posibility to open the 
>>capabilites of install third parties programs like IM's?, 
>>Will be a special version of FlashPlayer for the iPhone?
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Erik
>>
>>Merrill, Jason escribió:
>>> In regards to this, Adobe's John Dowdell just posted this on
>>> Flashcoders:
>>>
>>> "No responses from other staff members, because Apple usually locks 
>>> down
>>>
>>> news pretty tightly at a launch. I didn't know about this 
>>device until 
>>> the keynote, myself.
>>>
>>> I *do* know that Adobe staffers are currently working on 
>>getting some 
>>> good guidance out there, but the key steps of initial 
>>disclosure are 
>>> really up to Apple. I put up an early "i dont know" up on 
>>the weblog 
>>> yesterday, and added some useful third-party analysis overnight:
>>> http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/01/iphone_launch.cfm
>>>
>>> Summary: No info yet, but ASAP.
>>>
>>> jd
>>>
>>>   
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Re: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?

[Erik Porroa / Porroa.com]

I'm interested in: will Apple let the posibility to open the capabilites 
of install third parties programs like IM's?, Will be a special version 
of FlashPlayer for the iPhone?


Cheers,
Erik

Merrill, Jason escribió:

In regards to this, Adobe's John Dowdell just posted this on
Flashcoders:

"No responses from other staff members, because Apple usually locks down

news pretty tightly at a launch. I didn't know about this device until 
the keynote, myself.


I *do* know that Adobe staffers are currently working on getting some 
good guidance out there, but the key steps of initial disclosure are 
really up to Apple. I put up an early "i dont know" up on the weblog 
yesterday, and added some useful third-party analysis overnight:

http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/01/iphone_launch.cfm

Summary: No info yet, but ASAP.

jd

  


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RE: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?

[Merrill, Jason]

In regards to this, Adobe's John Dowdell just posted this on
Flashcoders:

"No responses from other staff members, because Apple usually locks down

news pretty tightly at a launch. I didn't know about this device until 
the keynote, myself.

I *do* know that Adobe staffers are currently working on getting some 
good guidance out there, but the key steps of initial disclosure are 
really up to Apple. I put up an early "i dont know" up on the weblog 
yesterday, and added some useful third-party analysis overnight:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/01/iphone_launch.cfm

Summary: No info yet, but ASAP.

jd

-- 
John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA"



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Re: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?

[l u c h y x]

I think ADOBE must talk with me friend Steve and maybe release a version of
flash player for iPhone.
iPhone has new hardware capabilities: the accelerometer, which detect the
rotation of the phone, the proximity sensor that detect if your are holding
your phone on a call or using like a 'PALM'.
The price is very cheap, I'm on Argentina and for example the Nokia N70  is
about u$s 300 and the Nokia N93 is u$s 1200. !!
But in Argentina singular not exist as Services provider.
I don't know what happen in the case I buy
iPhone.


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Re: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?

[Andy Herrman]

Oh, I'm not saying I'm surprised at the price, or that it's
unreasonable.  I just wish it were cheaper. :)

As for Flash, if it doesn't exist out of the box I wouldn't be
surprised if it's added later.  This quote:

'[OSX] let us create desktop class applications and networking, not
the crippled stuff you find on most phones, these are real desktop
applications.' - Alan Kay (I think)

suggests that it would be possible to add it.  I haven't seen any news
anywhere about what specifically it has though, and things could
always change before June.  We'll probably just have to wait.

  -Andy

On 1/9/07, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yeah, I think this phone runs circles around the other phones you
mentioned, so even though it's not going to replace your 80GB iPod, but
related to what you said, the features it has (due to the fact it's
running OSX) will rock the industry and make it worth the price... and
prices will come down and capacity will go up too - this is only gen1

But anyway, my real question was any news of the Flash player in the
iPhone?

Jason Merrill
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>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>>Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:30 PM
>>To: Flashcoders mailing list
>>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?
>>
>>> I just wish it was cheaper.
>>
>>iPhone: $499 for 4GB, $599 for 8GB.
>>
>>4GB iPod Nano: $199
>>8GB iPod Nano: $249
>>
>>Some other top rated Smart Phones:
>>Palm Treo 700p ~$679
>>Sony Ericsson P990i ~$680
>>RIM BlackBerry 7130c ~$200
>>
>>Even the RIM Blackberry with a Nano is the same price as the
>>4GB model.
>>
>>Considering the Palm Treo doesn't have nearly as many
>>features, plus the iPhone has a touch screen, OSX with
>>Safari, unique non-sequential voicemail, GPS, among all the
>>other amazing features, I think the cost is actually quite
>>competitive and fair, especially since I won't have to carry
>>two gadgets in my pocket anymore.  :)
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RE: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?

[Merrill, Jason]

Yeah, I think this phone runs circles around the other phones you
mentioned, so even though it's not going to replace your 80GB iPod, but
related to what you said, the features it has (due to the fact it's
running OSX) will rock the industry and make it worth the price... and
prices will come down and capacity will go up too - this is only gen1 

But anyway, my real question was any news of the Flash player in the
iPhone?

Jason Merrill
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Learning & Organizational Effectiveness
 
 
 
 
 
 

>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
>>Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:30 PM
>>To: Flashcoders mailing list
>>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?
>>
>>> I just wish it was cheaper.
>>
>>iPhone: $499 for 4GB, $599 for 8GB. 
>>
>>4GB iPod Nano: $199
>>8GB iPod Nano: $249
>>
>>Some other top rated Smart Phones:
>>Palm Treo 700p ~$679
>>Sony Ericsson P990i ~$680
>>RIM BlackBerry 7130c ~$200
>>
>>Even the RIM Blackberry with a Nano is the same price as the 
>>4GB model.
>>
>>Considering the Palm Treo doesn't have nearly as many 
>>features, plus the iPhone has a touch screen, OSX with 
>>Safari, unique non-sequential voicemail, GPS, among all the 
>>other amazing features, I think the cost is actually quite 
>>competitive and fair, especially since I won't have to carry 
>>two gadgets in my pocket anymore.  :) 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?

[Weyert de Boer]

Hi Steven,
iPhone: $499 for 4GB, $599 for 8GB. 
  


As far as I understood that where the prices when you buy two year 
Cingular membership with it.


Yours,
Weyert
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RE: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?

[Steven Sacks | BLITZ]

> I just wish it was cheaper.

iPhone: $499 for 4GB, $599 for 8GB. 

4GB iPod Nano: $199
8GB iPod Nano: $249

Some other top rated Smart Phones:
Palm Treo 700p ~$679
Sony Ericsson P990i ~$680
RIM BlackBerry 7130c ~$200

Even the RIM Blackberry with a Nano is the same price as the 4GB model.

Considering the Palm Treo doesn't have nearly as many features, plus the
iPhone has a touch screen, OSX with Safari, unique non-sequential
voicemail, GPS, among all the other amazing features, I think the cost
is actually quite competitive and fair, especially since I won't have to
carry two gadgets in my pocket anymore.  :)
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Re: [Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?

[Andy Herrman]

Well, they said it "runs OS X", so since Flash runs in OS X that
suggests it does. :)

Then again, I have no idea what that actually means, so who knows?  I
just wish it was cheaper.

We'll probably get more information as it gets closer to actually
shipping.  Until then we won't really know unless they explicitly tell
us.

  -Andy

On 1/9/07, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It would be interesting, but I cant see what processor its using or
anything.

Hank
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[Flashcoders] Will the new iPhone run flash?

[hank williams]

It would be interesting, but I cant see what processor its using or
anything.

Hank
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