Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
It's debugging 101. Eliminate the obvious things first. Calling
clearInterval before setInterval is a preventative measure to protect
you from unexpected behavior from accidental orphaning of intervals. I
ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS clearInterval before I setInterval regardless of
whether it is the first time I'm setting it. There is no reason not to
do it and plenty of reason to do it.
If you overwrite a reference to an interval with another interval, you
orphan that interval which continues to run in the swf until you close
the swf and you will never be able to stop it unless you knew the id of
the interval in question.
The reason I suggested it was because his code was not well written in
that there was no protection that the interval would be overwritten
since it was in a frame script. If that frame ever played again you
would have an interval orphaned and then doubled up. From the
description of the behavior he gave, that's exactly what it sounded like.
Jordan Snyder wrote:
Nevermind. I'm obviously not communicating very well. I'm extremely
familiar with setInterval's and setTimeout's functionality. What I'm
trying to figure out is why Steven says to clearInterval first
clearInterval can not be run without an argument, so I'm saying that
if you haven't assigned setInterval to something, what are you going
to call clearInterval on? And why would you call it before it's even
assigned to an actual interval?
Cheers
On 4/20/07, David Ngo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, that's where you're mistaken. setInterval will set an interval that
will call a method at each interval. Whether you assign it to a
variable or
not, it will continue to call that method at each interval. This is how
setInterval works. In order to clear an interval, you MUST assign an
ID and
call clearInterval on that ID. The functionality you're talking about
is a
setTimeout. That calls a method once and ONLY once after a specified
delay.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan
Snyder
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 3:02 PM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
No, I mean that he is only calling setInterval once and has no
apparent need to even assign it to a variable for use with
clearInterval later.
On 4/20/07, David Ngo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An interval is fired at each interval. What you're talking about is a
setTimeout which is fired only once after a delay (timeout). An
interval
is
fired an infinite number of times until clearInterval is called.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan
Snyder
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:03 PM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
Steven, why is that? If he's only calling it once and the interval is
only defined/set once, why would you call clearInterval?
On 4/20/07, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You should always call clearInterval before setInterval. ALWAYS.
Michael King wrote:
Hey all,
Some of you may remember my problems with visually mapping
streaming
data
before. I ended up needing them as separate clips to provide
individual
roll-over support with the ability to add links in a future
revision.
Well, now that I have it performing better, I'm breaking down the
information into intervals of 1 minute bursts. What I'm
trying to
do
is
use setInterval to have it pull the data once per minute.
The problem is, when I use setInterval as documented, it waits the
first
minute, does its thing, but then it ignores the interval after
that,
pulling the data every time that frame comes up.
Here's the relevant bit of code:
function intervalLoop() {
xmlData = new XML();
xmlData.load(wddx.php);
xmlData.onLoad = function () {
wddx = new Wddx();
_root.wddxObj = wddx.deserialize(this);
delete(xmlData);
}
for (j=0; j _root.lines.length; j++) {
trace(Deleting clip: + _root.lines[j][pen]._name);
_root.lines[j][pen].removeMovieClip();
delete(_root.lines[j][pen]);
delete(_root.lines[j][timestamp]);
_root.lines.splice(j,1);
}
for (var i in _root.wddxObj) {
_root.counter++;
date_now = new Date();
pen = createEmptyMovieClip(curve_ + i + _mc, 2 +
_root.counter);
trace(Added clip: + pen._name);
pen.lineStyle(1.5,0xFF6600);
container = {pen: pen, timestamp: date_now};
_root.lines.push(container);
dest_long = _root.wddxObj[i][long];
dest_lat = _root.wddxObj[i][lat];
site = _root.wddxObj[i][site];
src_long = _root.locations[site][long
RE: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
And to add to what Steven said, I would seriously suggest using the scope
version of the setInterval call:
var interval:Number = setInterval(this, 'myFunc', 100);
Using setInterval this way specifies the scope object you want to call your
method on. This also goes a long way to ensuring that your interval will
work as you intended it to.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Sacks
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:06 AM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
It's debugging 101. Eliminate the obvious things first. Calling
clearInterval before setInterval is a preventative measure to protect
you from unexpected behavior from accidental orphaning of intervals. I
ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS clearInterval before I setInterval regardless of
whether it is the first time I'm setting it. There is no reason not to
do it and plenty of reason to do it.
If you overwrite a reference to an interval with another interval, you
orphan that interval which continues to run in the swf until you close
the swf and you will never be able to stop it unless you knew the id of
the interval in question.
The reason I suggested it was because his code was not well written in
that there was no protection that the interval would be overwritten
since it was in a frame script. If that frame ever played again you
would have an interval orphaned and then doubled up. From the
description of the behavior he gave, that's exactly what it sounded like.
Jordan Snyder wrote:
Nevermind. I'm obviously not communicating very well. I'm extremely
familiar with setInterval's and setTimeout's functionality. What I'm
trying to figure out is why Steven says to clearInterval first
clearInterval can not be run without an argument, so I'm saying that
if you haven't assigned setInterval to something, what are you going
to call clearInterval on? And why would you call it before it's even
assigned to an actual interval?
Cheers
On 4/20/07, David Ngo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, that's where you're mistaken. setInterval will set an interval that
will call a method at each interval. Whether you assign it to a
variable or
not, it will continue to call that method at each interval. This is how
setInterval works. In order to clear an interval, you MUST assign an
ID and
call clearInterval on that ID. The functionality you're talking about
is a
setTimeout. That calls a method once and ONLY once after a specified
delay.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan
Snyder
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 3:02 PM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
No, I mean that he is only calling setInterval once and has no
apparent need to even assign it to a variable for use with
clearInterval later.
On 4/20/07, David Ngo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An interval is fired at each interval. What you're talking about is a
setTimeout which is fired only once after a delay (timeout). An
interval
is
fired an infinite number of times until clearInterval is called.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan
Snyder
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:03 PM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
Steven, why is that? If he's only calling it once and the interval is
only defined/set once, why would you call clearInterval?
On 4/20/07, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You should always call clearInterval before setInterval. ALWAYS.
Michael King wrote:
Hey all,
Some of you may remember my problems with visually mapping
streaming
data
before. I ended up needing them as separate clips to provide
individual
roll-over support with the ability to add links in a future
revision.
Well, now that I have it performing better, I'm breaking down the
information into intervals of 1 minute bursts. What I'm
trying to
do
is
use setInterval to have it pull the data once per minute.
The problem is, when I use setInterval as documented, it waits the
first
minute, does its thing, but then it ignores the interval after
that,
pulling the data every time that frame comes up.
Here's the relevant bit of code:
function intervalLoop() {
xmlData = new XML();
xmlData.load(wddx.php);
xmlData.onLoad = function () {
wddx = new Wddx();
_root.wddxObj = wddx.deserialize(this);
delete(xmlData);
}
for (j=0; j _root.lines.length; j++) {
trace(Deleting clip: + _root.lines[j][pen]._name);
_root.lines[j][pen].removeMovieClip();
delete(_root.lines[j][pen]);
delete(_root.lines[j
Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
Yes! Always pass the scope when using setInterval. I think it's bad
that they even included the option to not pass the scope.
David Ngo wrote:
And to add to what Steven said, I would seriously suggest using the scope
version of the setInterval call:
var interval:Number = setInterval(this, 'myFunc', 100);
Using setInterval this way specifies the scope object you want to call your
method on. This also goes a long way to ensuring that your interval will
work as you intended it to.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Sacks
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:06 AM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
It's debugging 101. Eliminate the obvious things first. Calling
clearInterval before setInterval is a preventative measure to protect
you from unexpected behavior from accidental orphaning of intervals. I
ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS clearInterval before I setInterval regardless of
whether it is the first time I'm setting it. There is no reason not to
do it and plenty of reason to do it.
If you overwrite a reference to an interval with another interval, you
orphan that interval which continues to run in the swf until you close
the swf and you will never be able to stop it unless you knew the id of
the interval in question.
The reason I suggested it was because his code was not well written in
that there was no protection that the interval would be overwritten
since it was in a frame script. If that frame ever played again you
would have an interval orphaned and then doubled up. From the
description of the behavior he gave, that's exactly what it sounded like.
Jordan Snyder wrote:
Nevermind. I'm obviously not communicating very well. I'm extremely
familiar with setInterval's and setTimeout's functionality. What I'm
trying to figure out is why Steven says to clearInterval first
clearInterval can not be run without an argument, so I'm saying that
if you haven't assigned setInterval to something, what are you going
to call clearInterval on? And why would you call it before it's even
assigned to an actual interval?
Cheers
On 4/20/07, David Ngo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, that's where you're mistaken. setInterval will set an interval that
will call a method at each interval. Whether you assign it to a
variable or
not, it will continue to call that method at each interval. This is how
setInterval works. In order to clear an interval, you MUST assign an
ID and
call clearInterval on that ID. The functionality you're talking about
is a
setTimeout. That calls a method once and ONLY once after a specified
delay.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan
Snyder
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 3:02 PM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
No, I mean that he is only calling setInterval once and has no
apparent need to even assign it to a variable for use with
clearInterval later.
On 4/20/07, David Ngo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An interval is fired at each interval. What you're talking about is a
setTimeout which is fired only once after a delay (timeout). An
interval
is
fired an infinite number of times until clearInterval is called.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan
Snyder
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:03 PM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
Steven, why is that? If he's only calling it once and the interval is
only defined/set once, why would you call clearInterval?
On 4/20/07, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You should always call clearInterval before setInterval. ALWAYS.
Michael King wrote:
Hey all,
Some of you may remember my problems with visually mapping
streaming
data
before. I ended up needing them as separate clips to provide
individual
roll-over support with the ability to add links in a future
revision.
Well, now that I have it performing better, I'm breaking down the
information into intervals of 1 minute bursts. What I'm
trying to
do
is
use setInterval to have it pull the data once per minute.
The problem is, when I use setInterval as documented, it waits the
first
minute, does its thing, but then it ignores the interval after
that,
pulling the data every time that frame comes up.
Here's the relevant bit of code:
function intervalLoop() {
xmlData = new XML();
xmlData.load(wddx.php);
xmlData.onLoad = function () {
wddx = new Wddx();
_root.wddxObj = wddx.deserialize(this);
delete(xmlData);
}
for (j=0; j _root.lines.length; j++) {
trace(Deleting clip: + _root.lines[j][pen]._name);
_root.lines[j][pen].removeMovieClip();
delete(_root.lines[j][pen]);
delete(_root.lines[j][timestamp
Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
Isn't using Delegate (with setInterval) one step better or are there caveats? Steven, what I don't understand is why, if the intervals are getting orphaned, you wouldn't have the data being pulled much MORE often instead of less often. I'm aware of the issues with orphaning an interval (and just assumed that this code was in a class or was only called once) but I don't understand the resultant behavior in relation to what you're saying. Michael, haven't heard from you in a while...did you work it out? Cheers! On 4/23/07, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes! Always pass the scope when using setInterval. I think it's bad that they even included the option to not pass the scope. David Ngo wrote: And to add to what Steven said, I would seriously suggest using the scope version of the setInterval call: var interval:Number = setInterval(this, 'myFunc', 100); Using setInterval this way specifies the scope object you want to call your method on. This also goes a long way to ensuring that your interval will work as you intended it to. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Sacks Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:06 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes It's debugging 101. Eliminate the obvious things first. Calling clearInterval before setInterval is a preventative measure to protect you from unexpected behavior from accidental orphaning of intervals. I ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS clearInterval before I setInterval regardless of whether it is the first time I'm setting it. There is no reason not to do it and plenty of reason to do it. If you overwrite a reference to an interval with another interval, you orphan that interval which continues to run in the swf until you close the swf and you will never be able to stop it unless you knew the id of the interval in question. The reason I suggested it was because his code was not well written in that there was no protection that the interval would be overwritten since it was in a frame script. If that frame ever played again you would have an interval orphaned and then doubled up. From the description of the behavior he gave, that's exactly what it sounded like. Jordan Snyder wrote: Nevermind. I'm obviously not communicating very well. I'm extremely familiar with setInterval's and setTimeout's functionality. What I'm trying to figure out is why Steven says to clearInterval first clearInterval can not be run without an argument, so I'm saying that if you haven't assigned setInterval to something, what are you going to call clearInterval on? And why would you call it before it's even assigned to an actual interval? Cheers On 4/20/07, David Ngo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, that's where you're mistaken. setInterval will set an interval that will call a method at each interval. Whether you assign it to a variable or not, it will continue to call that method at each interval. This is how setInterval works. In order to clear an interval, you MUST assign an ID and call clearInterval on that ID. The functionality you're talking about is a setTimeout. That calls a method once and ONLY once after a specified delay. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Snyder Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 3:02 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes No, I mean that he is only calling setInterval once and has no apparent need to even assign it to a variable for use with clearInterval later. On 4/20/07, David Ngo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An interval is fired at each interval. What you're talking about is a setTimeout which is fired only once after a delay (timeout). An interval is fired an infinite number of times until clearInterval is called. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Snyder Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:03 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes Steven, why is that? If he's only calling it once and the interval is only defined/set once, why would you call clearInterval? On 4/20/07, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should always call clearInterval before setInterval. ALWAYS. Michael King wrote: Hey all, Some of you may remember my problems with visually mapping streaming data before. I ended up needing them as separate clips to provide individual roll-over support with the ability to add links in a future revision. Well, now that I have it performing better, I'm breaking down the information into intervals of 1 minute bursts. What I'm trying to do is use setInterval to have it pull the data once per minute. The problem is, when I use setInterval as documented, it waits the first minute, does its thing, but then it ignores
[Flashcoders] setInterval woes
Hey all,
Some of you may remember my problems with visually mapping streaming data
before. I ended up needing them as separate clips to provide individual
roll-over support with the ability to add links in a future revision.
Well, now that I have it performing better, I'm breaking down the
information into intervals of 1 minute bursts. What I'm trying to do is
use setInterval to have it pull the data once per minute.
The problem is, when I use setInterval as documented, it waits the first
minute, does its thing, but then it ignores the interval after that,
pulling the data every time that frame comes up.
Here's the relevant bit of code:
function intervalLoop() {
xmlData = new XML();
xmlData.load(wddx.php);
xmlData.onLoad = function () {
wddx = new Wddx();
_root.wddxObj = wddx.deserialize(this);
delete(xmlData);
}
for (j=0; j _root.lines.length; j++) {
trace(Deleting clip: + _root.lines[j][pen]._name);
_root.lines[j][pen].removeMovieClip();
delete(_root.lines[j][pen]);
delete(_root.lines[j][timestamp]);
_root.lines.splice(j,1);
}
for (var i in _root.wddxObj) {
_root.counter++;
date_now = new Date();
pen = createEmptyMovieClip(curve_ + i + _mc, 2 +
_root.counter);
trace(Added clip: + pen._name);
pen.lineStyle(1.5,0xFF6600);
container = {pen: pen, timestamp: date_now};
_root.lines.push(container);
dest_long = _root.wddxObj[i][long];
dest_lat = _root.wddxObj[i][lat];
site = _root.wddxObj[i][site];
src_long = _root.locations[site][long];
src_lat = _root.locations[site][lat];
curvePoint(pen, src_long, src_lat, dest_long, dest_lat);
}
}
setInterval(intervalLoop, 6);
Thanks,
Michael King
CSIRT - Developer
Security Incident Response Group
Humana Inc.
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Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
Are you missing a stop(); maybe? On 4/20/07, Michael King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is, when I use setInterval as documented, it waits the first minute, does its thing, but then it ignores the interval after that, pulling the data every time that frame comes up. Regards Alex -- http://preferans.de ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
I'm wondering the same as Alexander...perhaps it's something to do with the timeline, or with other code that is happening around the code you posted. Is there anything else we should know? You should also just put a trace at the top of the intervalLoop() function to see if the problem may be with the server. It is unlikely but I've seen stranger. It may not even be with the server, it may be with the XML object you have there. If you're deleting it in the first iteration but not initializing it with 'var xmlData = new XML();, then where would it be coming from after it's deleted? That is, unless you're doing something outside that function. Hope that makes sense...I'm just now pouring my first cup of coffee into my belly. Cheers On 4/20/07, Alexander Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you missing a stop(); maybe? On 4/20/07, Michael King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is, when I use setInterval as documented, it waits the first minute, does its thing, but then it ignores the interval after that, pulling the data every time that frame comes up. Regards Alex -- http://preferans.de ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Jordan Snyder Applications Developer Image Action LLC http://www.imageaction.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
What I would highly recommend is externalizing your interval and data
loading into a class. This way, you have the class handle its own state and
data, fire an event once it's loaded or reloaded data and have your movie
listen for that event. The class can then be instantiated just once at the
beginning of your movie. OR, use a Singleton to ensure a single
instantiation. I would probably advise against the Singleton approach for
your purposes, though.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael King
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 5:35 AM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
Hey all,
Some of you may remember my problems with visually mapping streaming data
before. I ended up needing them as separate clips to provide individual
roll-over support with the ability to add links in a future revision.
Well, now that I have it performing better, I'm breaking down the
information into intervals of 1 minute bursts. What I'm trying to do is
use setInterval to have it pull the data once per minute.
The problem is, when I use setInterval as documented, it waits the first
minute, does its thing, but then it ignores the interval after that,
pulling the data every time that frame comes up.
Here's the relevant bit of code:
function intervalLoop() {
xmlData = new XML();
xmlData.load(wddx.php);
xmlData.onLoad = function () {
wddx = new Wddx();
_root.wddxObj = wddx.deserialize(this);
delete(xmlData);
}
for (j=0; j _root.lines.length; j++) {
trace(Deleting clip: + _root.lines[j][pen]._name);
_root.lines[j][pen].removeMovieClip();
delete(_root.lines[j][pen]);
delete(_root.lines[j][timestamp]);
_root.lines.splice(j,1);
}
for (var i in _root.wddxObj) {
_root.counter++;
date_now = new Date();
pen = createEmptyMovieClip(curve_ + i + _mc, 2 +
_root.counter);
trace(Added clip: + pen._name);
pen.lineStyle(1.5,0xFF6600);
container = {pen: pen, timestamp: date_now};
_root.lines.push(container);
dest_long = _root.wddxObj[i][long];
dest_lat = _root.wddxObj[i][lat];
site = _root.wddxObj[i][site];
src_long = _root.locations[site][long];
src_lat = _root.locations[site][lat];
curvePoint(pen, src_long, src_lat, dest_long, dest_lat);
}
}
setInterval(intervalLoop, 6);
Thanks,
Michael King
CSIRT - Developer
Security Incident Response Group
Humana Inc.
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Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
You should always call clearInterval before setInterval. ALWAYS.
Michael King wrote:
Hey all,
Some of you may remember my problems with visually mapping streaming data
before. I ended up needing them as separate clips to provide individual
roll-over support with the ability to add links in a future revision.
Well, now that I have it performing better, I'm breaking down the
information into intervals of 1 minute bursts. What I'm trying to do is
use setInterval to have it pull the data once per minute.
The problem is, when I use setInterval as documented, it waits the first
minute, does its thing, but then it ignores the interval after that,
pulling the data every time that frame comes up.
Here's the relevant bit of code:
function intervalLoop() {
xmlData = new XML();
xmlData.load(wddx.php);
xmlData.onLoad = function () {
wddx = new Wddx();
_root.wddxObj = wddx.deserialize(this);
delete(xmlData);
}
for (j=0; j _root.lines.length; j++) {
trace(Deleting clip: + _root.lines[j][pen]._name);
_root.lines[j][pen].removeMovieClip();
delete(_root.lines[j][pen]);
delete(_root.lines[j][timestamp]);
_root.lines.splice(j,1);
}
for (var i in _root.wddxObj) {
_root.counter++;
date_now = new Date();
pen = createEmptyMovieClip(curve_ + i + _mc, 2 +
_root.counter);
trace(Added clip: + pen._name);
pen.lineStyle(1.5,0xFF6600);
container = {pen: pen, timestamp: date_now};
_root.lines.push(container);
dest_long = _root.wddxObj[i][long];
dest_lat = _root.wddxObj[i][lat];
site = _root.wddxObj[i][site];
src_long = _root.locations[site][long];
src_lat = _root.locations[site][lat];
curvePoint(pen, src_long, src_lat, dest_long, dest_lat);
}
}
setInterval(intervalLoop, 6);
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Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
Steven, why is that? If he's only calling it once and the interval is
only defined/set once, why would you call clearInterval?
On 4/20/07, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You should always call clearInterval before setInterval. ALWAYS.
Michael King wrote:
Hey all,
Some of you may remember my problems with visually mapping streaming data
before. I ended up needing them as separate clips to provide individual
roll-over support with the ability to add links in a future revision.
Well, now that I have it performing better, I'm breaking down the
information into intervals of 1 minute bursts. What I'm trying to do is
use setInterval to have it pull the data once per minute.
The problem is, when I use setInterval as documented, it waits the first
minute, does its thing, but then it ignores the interval after that,
pulling the data every time that frame comes up.
Here's the relevant bit of code:
function intervalLoop() {
xmlData = new XML();
xmlData.load(wddx.php);
xmlData.onLoad = function () {
wddx = new Wddx();
_root.wddxObj = wddx.deserialize(this);
delete(xmlData);
}
for (j=0; j _root.lines.length; j++) {
trace(Deleting clip: + _root.lines[j][pen]._name);
_root.lines[j][pen].removeMovieClip();
delete(_root.lines[j][pen]);
delete(_root.lines[j][timestamp]);
_root.lines.splice(j,1);
}
for (var i in _root.wddxObj) {
_root.counter++;
date_now = new Date();
pen = createEmptyMovieClip(curve_ + i + _mc, 2 +
_root.counter);
trace(Added clip: + pen._name);
pen.lineStyle(1.5,0xFF6600);
container = {pen: pen, timestamp: date_now};
_root.lines.push(container);
dest_long = _root.wddxObj[i][long];
dest_lat = _root.wddxObj[i][lat];
site = _root.wddxObj[i][site];
src_long = _root.locations[site][long];
src_lat = _root.locations[site][lat];
curvePoint(pen, src_long, src_lat, dest_long, dest_lat);
}
}
setInterval(intervalLoop, 6);
Thanks,
Michael King
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Humana Inc.
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RE: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
An interval is fired at each interval. What you're talking about is a
setTimeout which is fired only once after a delay (timeout). An interval is
fired an infinite number of times until clearInterval is called.
-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:03 PM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
Steven, why is that? If he's only calling it once and the interval is
only defined/set once, why would you call clearInterval?
On 4/20/07, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You should always call clearInterval before setInterval. ALWAYS.
Michael King wrote:
Hey all,
Some of you may remember my problems with visually mapping streaming
data
before. I ended up needing them as separate clips to provide individual
roll-over support with the ability to add links in a future revision.
Well, now that I have it performing better, I'm breaking down the
information into intervals of 1 minute bursts. What I'm trying to do
is
use setInterval to have it pull the data once per minute.
The problem is, when I use setInterval as documented, it waits the first
minute, does its thing, but then it ignores the interval after that,
pulling the data every time that frame comes up.
Here's the relevant bit of code:
function intervalLoop() {
xmlData = new XML();
xmlData.load(wddx.php);
xmlData.onLoad = function () {
wddx = new Wddx();
_root.wddxObj = wddx.deserialize(this);
delete(xmlData);
}
for (j=0; j _root.lines.length; j++) {
trace(Deleting clip: + _root.lines[j][pen]._name);
_root.lines[j][pen].removeMovieClip();
delete(_root.lines[j][pen]);
delete(_root.lines[j][timestamp]);
_root.lines.splice(j,1);
}
for (var i in _root.wddxObj) {
_root.counter++;
date_now = new Date();
pen = createEmptyMovieClip(curve_ + i + _mc, 2 +
_root.counter);
trace(Added clip: + pen._name);
pen.lineStyle(1.5,0xFF6600);
container = {pen: pen, timestamp: date_now};
_root.lines.push(container);
dest_long = _root.wddxObj[i][long];
dest_lat = _root.wddxObj[i][lat];
site = _root.wddxObj[i][site];
src_long = _root.locations[site][long];
src_lat = _root.locations[site][lat];
curvePoint(pen, src_long, src_lat, dest_long, dest_lat);
}
}
setInterval(intervalLoop, 6);
Thanks,
Michael King
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Humana Inc.
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Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
No, I mean that he is only calling setInterval once and has no
apparent need to even assign it to a variable for use with
clearInterval later.
On 4/20/07, David Ngo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An interval is fired at each interval. What you're talking about is a
setTimeout which is fired only once after a delay (timeout). An interval is
fired an infinite number of times until clearInterval is called.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Snyder
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:03 PM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
Steven, why is that? If he's only calling it once and the interval is
only defined/set once, why would you call clearInterval?
On 4/20/07, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You should always call clearInterval before setInterval. ALWAYS.
Michael King wrote:
Hey all,
Some of you may remember my problems with visually mapping streaming
data
before. I ended up needing them as separate clips to provide individual
roll-over support with the ability to add links in a future revision.
Well, now that I have it performing better, I'm breaking down the
information into intervals of 1 minute bursts. What I'm trying to do
is
use setInterval to have it pull the data once per minute.
The problem is, when I use setInterval as documented, it waits the first
minute, does its thing, but then it ignores the interval after that,
pulling the data every time that frame comes up.
Here's the relevant bit of code:
function intervalLoop() {
xmlData = new XML();
xmlData.load(wddx.php);
xmlData.onLoad = function () {
wddx = new Wddx();
_root.wddxObj = wddx.deserialize(this);
delete(xmlData);
}
for (j=0; j _root.lines.length; j++) {
trace(Deleting clip: + _root.lines[j][pen]._name);
_root.lines[j][pen].removeMovieClip();
delete(_root.lines[j][pen]);
delete(_root.lines[j][timestamp]);
_root.lines.splice(j,1);
}
for (var i in _root.wddxObj) {
_root.counter++;
date_now = new Date();
pen = createEmptyMovieClip(curve_ + i + _mc, 2 +
_root.counter);
trace(Added clip: + pen._name);
pen.lineStyle(1.5,0xFF6600);
container = {pen: pen, timestamp: date_now};
_root.lines.push(container);
dest_long = _root.wddxObj[i][long];
dest_lat = _root.wddxObj[i][lat];
site = _root.wddxObj[i][site];
src_long = _root.locations[site][long];
src_lat = _root.locations[site][lat];
curvePoint(pen, src_long, src_lat, dest_long, dest_lat);
}
}
setInterval(intervalLoop, 6);
Thanks,
Michael King
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Security Incident Response Group
Humana Inc.
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RE: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
Yes, that's where you're mistaken. setInterval will set an interval that
will call a method at each interval. Whether you assign it to a variable or
not, it will continue to call that method at each interval. This is how
setInterval works. In order to clear an interval, you MUST assign an ID and
call clearInterval on that ID. The functionality you're talking about is a
setTimeout. That calls a method once and ONLY once after a specified delay.
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Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 3:02 PM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
No, I mean that he is only calling setInterval once and has no
apparent need to even assign it to a variable for use with
clearInterval later.
On 4/20/07, David Ngo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An interval is fired at each interval. What you're talking about is a
setTimeout which is fired only once after a delay (timeout). An interval
is
fired an infinite number of times until clearInterval is called.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Snyder
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:03 PM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
Steven, why is that? If he's only calling it once and the interval is
only defined/set once, why would you call clearInterval?
On 4/20/07, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You should always call clearInterval before setInterval. ALWAYS.
Michael King wrote:
Hey all,
Some of you may remember my problems with visually mapping streaming
data
before. I ended up needing them as separate clips to provide
individual
roll-over support with the ability to add links in a future revision.
Well, now that I have it performing better, I'm breaking down the
information into intervals of 1 minute bursts. What I'm trying to
do
is
use setInterval to have it pull the data once per minute.
The problem is, when I use setInterval as documented, it waits the
first
minute, does its thing, but then it ignores the interval after that,
pulling the data every time that frame comes up.
Here's the relevant bit of code:
function intervalLoop() {
xmlData = new XML();
xmlData.load(wddx.php);
xmlData.onLoad = function () {
wddx = new Wddx();
_root.wddxObj = wddx.deserialize(this);
delete(xmlData);
}
for (j=0; j _root.lines.length; j++) {
trace(Deleting clip: + _root.lines[j][pen]._name);
_root.lines[j][pen].removeMovieClip();
delete(_root.lines[j][pen]);
delete(_root.lines[j][timestamp]);
_root.lines.splice(j,1);
}
for (var i in _root.wddxObj) {
_root.counter++;
date_now = new Date();
pen = createEmptyMovieClip(curve_ + i + _mc, 2 +
_root.counter);
trace(Added clip: + pen._name);
pen.lineStyle(1.5,0xFF6600);
container = {pen: pen, timestamp: date_now};
_root.lines.push(container);
dest_long = _root.wddxObj[i][long];
dest_lat = _root.wddxObj[i][lat];
site = _root.wddxObj[i][site];
src_long = _root.locations[site][long];
src_lat = _root.locations[site][lat];
curvePoint(pen, src_long, src_lat, dest_long, dest_lat);
}
}
setInterval(intervalLoop, 6);
Thanks,
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Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
Nevermind. I'm obviously not communicating very well. I'm extremely
familiar with setInterval's and setTimeout's functionality. What I'm
trying to figure out is why Steven says to clearInterval first
clearInterval can not be run without an argument, so I'm saying that
if you haven't assigned setInterval to something, what are you going
to call clearInterval on? And why would you call it before it's even
assigned to an actual interval?
Cheers
On 4/20/07, David Ngo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, that's where you're mistaken. setInterval will set an interval that
will call a method at each interval. Whether you assign it to a variable or
not, it will continue to call that method at each interval. This is how
setInterval works. In order to clear an interval, you MUST assign an ID and
call clearInterval on that ID. The functionality you're talking about is a
setTimeout. That calls a method once and ONLY once after a specified delay.
-Original Message-
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Snyder
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 3:02 PM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
No, I mean that he is only calling setInterval once and has no
apparent need to even assign it to a variable for use with
clearInterval later.
On 4/20/07, David Ngo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An interval is fired at each interval. What you're talking about is a
setTimeout which is fired only once after a delay (timeout). An interval
is
fired an infinite number of times until clearInterval is called.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Snyder
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:03 PM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
Steven, why is that? If he's only calling it once and the interval is
only defined/set once, why would you call clearInterval?
On 4/20/07, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You should always call clearInterval before setInterval. ALWAYS.
Michael King wrote:
Hey all,
Some of you may remember my problems with visually mapping streaming
data
before. I ended up needing them as separate clips to provide
individual
roll-over support with the ability to add links in a future revision.
Well, now that I have it performing better, I'm breaking down the
information into intervals of 1 minute bursts. What I'm trying to
do
is
use setInterval to have it pull the data once per minute.
The problem is, when I use setInterval as documented, it waits the
first
minute, does its thing, but then it ignores the interval after that,
pulling the data every time that frame comes up.
Here's the relevant bit of code:
function intervalLoop() {
xmlData = new XML();
xmlData.load(wddx.php);
xmlData.onLoad = function () {
wddx = new Wddx();
_root.wddxObj = wddx.deserialize(this);
delete(xmlData);
}
for (j=0; j _root.lines.length; j++) {
trace(Deleting clip: + _root.lines[j][pen]._name);
_root.lines[j][pen].removeMovieClip();
delete(_root.lines[j][pen]);
delete(_root.lines[j][timestamp]);
_root.lines.splice(j,1);
}
for (var i in _root.wddxObj) {
_root.counter++;
date_now = new Date();
pen = createEmptyMovieClip(curve_ + i + _mc, 2 +
_root.counter);
trace(Added clip: + pen._name);
pen.lineStyle(1.5,0xFF6600);
container = {pen: pen, timestamp: date_now};
_root.lines.push(container);
dest_long = _root.wddxObj[i][long];
dest_lat = _root.wddxObj[i][lat];
site = _root.wddxObj[i][site];
src_long = _root.locations[site][long];
src_lat = _root.locations[site][lat];
curvePoint(pen, src_long, src_lat, dest_long, dest_lat);
}
}
setInterval(intervalLoop, 6);
Thanks,
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Re: [Flashcoders] setInterval woes
pulling the data every time that frame comes up.
Is this called on a timeline with many frames and no stop()? If so, I
think you are setting a completely new interval on each loop of the
frames.
If you want this thing to fire once each minute put it somewhere
outside of this loop of frames and call the setInterval
I don't know how your project is set up but alternative is to check
if the interval exists and don't spawn a new one, something like:
frame 1:
if (_global.initLoop == undefined) {
_global.initLoop = setInterval(intervalLoop, 6);
}
this way your setInterval is called once and will do its thing every
minute and independent of the timeline activity.
On Apr 20, 2007, at 5:34 AM, Michael King wrote:
Hey all,
Some of you may remember my problems with visually mapping
streaming data
before. I ended up needing them as separate clips to provide
individual
roll-over support with the ability to add links in a future revision.
Well, now that I have it performing better, I'm breaking down the
information into intervals of 1 minute bursts. What I'm trying
to do is
use setInterval to have it pull the data once per minute.
The problem is, when I use setInterval as documented, it waits the
first
minute, does its thing, but then it ignores the interval after that,
pulling the data every time that frame comes up.
Here's the relevant bit of code:
function intervalLoop() {
xmlData = new XML();
xmlData.load(wddx.php);
xmlData.onLoad = function () {
wddx = new Wddx();
_root.wddxObj = wddx.deserialize(this);
delete(xmlData);
}
for (j=0; j _root.lines.length; j++) {
trace(Deleting clip: + _root.lines[j][pen]._name);
_root.lines[j][pen].removeMovieClip();
delete(_root.lines[j][pen]);
delete(_root.lines[j][timestamp]);
_root.lines.splice(j,1);
}
for (var i in _root.wddxObj) {
_root.counter++;
date_now = new Date();
pen = createEmptyMovieClip(curve_ + i + _mc, 2 +
_root.counter);
trace(Added clip: + pen._name);
pen.lineStyle(1.5,0xFF6600);
container = {pen: pen, timestamp: date_now};
_root.lines.push(container);
dest_long = _root.wddxObj[i][long];
dest_lat = _root.wddxObj[i][lat];
site = _root.wddxObj[i][site];
src_long = _root.locations[site][long];
src_lat = _root.locations[site][lat];
curvePoint(pen, src_long, src_lat, dest_long, dest_lat);
}
}
setInterval(intervalLoop, 6);
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