RE: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper
Well there is good old Director, works a treat (plays full screen) and you have access to hundreds of plug-ins too :-) Kevin Boyd Multimedia Creations Ltd. www.mmcr.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cedric Muller Sent: 11 May 2006 07:49 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper Normally, I am not always puking on software, but I confirm that Zinc is a bad idea and a bad solution Cédric Muller - b-tween | designContent http://www.b-tween.com tél. +41 22 328 8168 > I faced similar issues with zinc > > > Thanks > Sumeet Basak > CTO > Renaissance Legal & Learning Systems Pvt. Ltd. > Cell: + 91 9223214301 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian > Thomas > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:27 AM > To: Flashcoders mailing list > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper > > I personally would avoid Zinc. Although we've used it successfully, > I've had two or three of their updates introduce bugs which break our > products, and I've had to revert until a fix comes along. The quality > control is just too shoddy. > > Ian > > On 5/9/06, eric dolecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm looking for some opinions on the best SWF wrapper you think is >> out there. The ability to save out files (XML), perhaps communicate >> with > dbases >> (local/online), etc. >> >> - e.dolecki > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper
yes, I forgot that optimistic note about mProjector... Seriously. Stop f**king around and get mProjector. I have coded against many wrappers and mProjector by far is the best experience, period. From how the API works to the elegant and clever way it handles the system tray icon (best solution I've seen) and direct communication between multiple Flash windows (some others make you use LocalConnection - blech), etc. etc. http://www.screentime.com/software/mprojector/ Now, if it doesn't have a feature you really need, then I guess it's not going to work for you and that's unfortunate. You'll have to struggle with another wrapper that does have the feature you need but is a pain to work with and is unstable, inefficient, and a pain to code against - three things mProjector is absolutely not. I've written full-blown desktop applications in mProjector that have run for weeks without being shut down without a single issue. -Steven -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cedric Muller Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:49 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper Normally, I am not always puking on software, but I confirm that Zinc is a bad idea and a bad solution Cédric Muller - b-tween | designContent http://www.b-tween.com tél. +41 22 328 8168 I faced similar issues with zinc Thanks Sumeet Basak CTO Renaissance Legal & Learning Systems Pvt. Ltd. Cell: + 91 9223214301 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:27 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper I personally would avoid Zinc. Although we've used it successfully, I've had two or three of their updates introduce bugs which break our products, and I've had to revert until a fix comes along. The quality control is just too shoddy. Ian On 5/9/06, eric dolecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm looking for some opinions on the best SWF wrapper you think is out there. The ability to save out files (XML), perhaps communicate with dbases (local/online), etc. - e.dolecki ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper
Seriously. Stop f**king around and get mProjector. I have coded against many wrappers and mProjector by far is the best experience, period. From how the API works to the elegant and clever way it handles the system tray icon (best solution I've seen) and direct communication between multiple Flash windows (some others make you use LocalConnection - blech), etc. etc. http://www.screentime.com/software/mprojector/ Now, if it doesn't have a feature you really need, then I guess it's not going to work for you and that's unfortunate. You'll have to struggle with another wrapper that does have the feature you need but is a pain to work with and is unstable, inefficient, and a pain to code against - three things mProjector is absolutely not. I've written full-blown desktop applications in mProjector that have run for weeks without being shut down without a single issue. -Steven > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Cedric Muller > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:49 PM > To: Flashcoders mailing list > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper > > Normally, I am not always puking on software, but > I confirm that Zinc is a bad idea and a bad solution > > Cédric Muller > - > b-tween | designContent > http://www.b-tween.com > > tél. +41 22 328 8168 > > > > I faced similar issues with zinc > > > > > > Thanks > > Sumeet Basak > > CTO > > Renaissance Legal & Learning Systems Pvt. Ltd. > > Cell: + 91 9223214301 > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Ian > > Thomas > > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:27 AM > > To: Flashcoders mailing list > > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper > > > > I personally would avoid Zinc. Although we've used it successfully, > > I've had two or three of their updates introduce bugs which > break our > > products, and I've had to revert until a fix comes along. > The quality > > control is just too shoddy. > > > > Ian > > > > On 5/9/06, eric dolecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm looking for some opinions on the best SWF wrapper you > think is > >> out > >> there. The ability to save out files (XML), perhaps > communicate with > > dbases > >> (local/online), etc. > >> > >> - e.dolecki > > ___ > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > http://www.figleaf.com > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > http://www.figleaf.com > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper
Normally, I am not always puking on software, but I confirm that Zinc is a bad idea and a bad solution Cédric Muller - b-tween | designContent http://www.b-tween.com tél. +41 22 328 8168 I faced similar issues with zinc Thanks Sumeet Basak CTO Renaissance Legal & Learning Systems Pvt. Ltd. Cell: + 91 9223214301 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:27 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper I personally would avoid Zinc. Although we've used it successfully, I've had two or three of their updates introduce bugs which break our products, and I've had to revert until a fix comes along. The quality control is just too shoddy. Ian On 5/9/06, eric dolecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm looking for some opinions on the best SWF wrapper you think is out there. The ability to save out files (XML), perhaps communicate with dbases (local/online), etc. - e.dolecki ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper
I faced similar issues with zinc Thanks Sumeet Basak CTO Renaissance Legal & Learning Systems Pvt. Ltd. Cell: + 91 9223214301 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:27 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper I personally would avoid Zinc. Although we've used it successfully, I've had two or three of their updates introduce bugs which break our products, and I've had to revert until a fix comes along. The quality control is just too shoddy. Ian On 5/9/06, eric dolecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking for some opinions on the best SWF wrapper you think is out > there. The ability to save out files (XML), perhaps communicate with dbases > (local/online), etc. > > - e.dolecki ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper
I personally would avoid Zinc. Although we've used it successfully, I've had two or three of their updates introduce bugs which break our products, and I've had to revert until a fix comes along. The quality control is just too shoddy. Ian On 5/9/06, eric dolecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm looking for some opinions on the best SWF wrapper you think is out there. The ability to save out files (XML), perhaps communicate with dbases (local/online), etc. - e.dolecki ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper
Hi John, >> What features does the SS SQLite wrapper have that the Zinc one is missing? >> Not that it matters much. What I have appears to be working properly, so new >> features in the wrapper will only be added if they'll improve performance or >> make things easier for me. I think one/the major difference in our feature sets are in/export functionality. Some functions like sqlite.dump(), sqlite.read() (SQL) and sqlite.import (CSV) are handled by the Connector (in C) where as you whould have to do the data parsing job in Flash (as of now). IIRC you orient more on the way DB´s are handled in PHP while my/SS syntax allowes my to return multiple bits of data at once if needed, e.g. passing the data right back in the sqlite.query command instead of using another getData method. That´s rather a design choice, though. >> Disclaimer: I am in no way related to author of the Zinc SQLite wrapper >> beyond the fact that I am him. Hm, let´s say I know the SS´ SQlite Connector developer quite well ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Hattan Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:11 AM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of André Goliath > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:10 PM > To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' > Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper > > Not long ago I´ve posted a little comparison of SWF Studio > and Zinc here, my clear favorite is SWF Studio, using it now > for about 4 years and was never disappointed. > > There where many discussions about that topic on this list, I > suggest simply grab rhe demo and the help file from each of > them and check out for your on. All tools out there have > advantages and disadvantages. > > As for offline DBs, Zinc and SWF Studio both have SQLite > interfaces available. > While Zinc´s is free, SS´ has much more features. What features does the SS SQLite wrapper have that the Zinc one is missing? Not that it matters much. What I have appears to be working properly, so new features in the wrapper will only be added if they'll improve performance or make things easier for me. Disclaimer: I am in no way related to author of the Zinc SQLite wrapper beyond the fact that I am him. > p.s.: Hey Derek, what about an SWF Studio T-Shirt? ;) You can keep the T-shirt. I need a review copy for gamedev ;) --- John Hattan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gamedev.net - more 1's and 0's than you can shake a stick at ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of André Goliath > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:10 PM > To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' > Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper > > Not long ago I´ve posted a little comparison of SWF Studio > and Zinc here, my clear favorite is SWF Studio, using it now > for about 4 years and was never disappointed. > > There where many discussions about that topic on this list, I > suggest simply grab rhe demo and the help file from each of > them and check out for your on. All tools out there have > advantages and disadvantages. > > As for offline DBs, Zinc and SWF Studio both have SQLite > interfaces available. > While Zinc´s is free, SS´ has much more features. What features does the SS SQLite wrapper have that the Zinc one is missing? Not that it matters much. What I have appears to be working properly, so new features in the wrapper will only be added if they'll improve performance or make things easier for me. Disclaimer: I am in no way related to author of the Zinc SQLite wrapper beyond the fact that I am him. > p.s.: Hey Derek, what about an SWF Studio T-Shirt? ;) You can keep the T-shirt. I need a review copy for gamedev ;) --- John Hattan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gamedev.net - more 1's and 0's than you can shake a stick at ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper
> I'm looking for some opinions on the best SWF wrapper you think is out > there. The ability to save out files (XML), perhaps > communicate with dbases > (local/online), etc. mProjector hands down is the best performing SWF wrapper out there. It also has the easiest API to develop against. It also does asynchronous calls to the system. http://www.screentime.com/software/mprojector/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper
Not long ago I´ve posted a little comparison of SWF Studio and Zinc here, my clear favorite is SWF Studio, using it now for about 4 years and was never disappointed. There where many discussions about that topic on this list, I suggest simply grab rhe demo and the help file from each of them and check out for your on. All tools out there have advantages and disadvantages. As for offline DBs, Zinc and SWF Studio both have SQLite interfaces available. While Zinc´s is free, SS´ has much more features. Check what you need against the tool`s feature lists, and then try two or three demos out. André p.s.: Hey Derek, what about an SWF Studio T-Shirt? ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wade Arnold Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:01 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper MDM Zink is the best for everything I have ever wanted to do. I like the ability to make your own DLL extensions too! Maybe they will send me a t-shirt for that testimony! Wade -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of eric dolecki Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:41 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper I'm looking for some opinions on the best SWF wrapper you think is out there. The ability to save out files (XML), perhaps communicate with dbases (local/online), etc. - e.dolecki ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper
MDM Zink is the best for everything I have ever wanted to do. I like the ability to make your own DLL extensions too! Maybe they will send me a t-shirt for that testimony! Wade -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of eric dolecki Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:41 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Best SWF Wrapper I'm looking for some opinions on the best SWF wrapper you think is out there. The ability to save out files (XML), perhaps communicate with dbases (local/online), etc. - e.dolecki ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
