Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?
Lee, Adjusted for currency, $30k american is only around £16.5k. The tax is probably higher in the UK though. Hth, Alias On 6/22/06, Lee McColl-Sylvester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Commercial experience is totally different to working experience. I've 7 years professional commercial experience in Flash, 3 years commercial experience in .NET, 7 years in SQL Server, 2 years in Oracle, have been director twice plus have a huge list of other abilities, and all I can get is £30k a year. Damn bloody low british salaries :-( If I were you, I'd be happy with yer 55k :-P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Sent: 20 June 2006 16:47 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary? Does 30-55K a year sound right with benefits for a junior developer? I have a college degree and an extensive IT background but, I'm just now getting into a professional job environment developing but, I have been using flash for some time now. 30K sounds wa too low, would you agree? If someone had 2-3 years experience, what should a flash/flex developer get? What should they start at? Thanks T ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?
not sure if that were tongue in cheek but £30k in uk IS $55k in USD more or less (damn me for gettin roped into this thread) On 22/06/06, Lee McColl-Sylvester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Commercial experience is totally different to working experience. I've 7 years professional commercial experience in Flash, 3 years commercial experience in .NET, 7 years in SQL Server, 2 years in Oracle, have been director twice plus have a huge list of other abilities, and all I can get is £30k a year. Damn bloody low british salaries :-( If I were you, I'd be happy with yer 55k :-P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Sent: 20 June 2006 16:47 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary? Does 30-55K a year sound right with benefits for a junior developer? I have a college degree and an extensive IT background but, I'm just now getting into a professional job environment developing but, I have been using flash for some time now. 30K sounds wa too low, would you agree? If someone had 2-3 years experience, what should a flash/flex developer get? What should they start at? Thanks T ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?
Commercial experience is totally different to working experience. I've 7 years professional commercial experience in Flash, 3 years commercial experience in .NET, 7 years in SQL Server, 2 years in Oracle, have been director twice plus have a huge list of other abilities, and all I can get is £30k a year. Damn bloody low british salaries :-( If I were you, I'd be happy with yer 55k :-P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Sent: 20 June 2006 16:47 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary? Does 30-55K a year sound right with benefits for a junior developer? I have a college degree and an extensive IT background but, I'm just now getting into a professional job environment developing but, I have been using flash for some time now. 30K sounds wa too low, would you agree? If someone had 2-3 years experience, what should a flash/flex developer get? What should they start at? Thanks T ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?
Yes, sorry, I meant in the USA. Sometimes forget how international this list is. :) Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anggie Bratadinata >>Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:29 PM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary? >> >>> 30k is really low though, just about anywhere >> >>.. in US of A >> >>In my country, even executives don't get that much unless they work for >>American/European company. >> >>I'd be a happy programmer if I could earn half of it. :-D >> >>-- >>Anggie Bratadinata >>Web|Graphic|Flash >>Jl. Raya Langsep 21 >>Malang - East Java >>I N D O N E S I A >>http://design.ibshastautama.com >> >> >>Merrill, Jason wrote: >>> Geography is a huge factor though - where is the job located? >>> >>> 30k is really low though, just about anywhere. >>> >>> Jason Merrill >>> Bank of America >>> Learning Technology Solutions >> >>___ >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>http://www.figleaf.com >>http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?
30k is really low though, just about anywhere .. in US of A In my country, even executives don't get that much unless they work for American/European company. I'd be a happy programmer if I could earn half of it. :-D -- Anggie Bratadinata Web|Graphic|Flash Jl. Raya Langsep 21 Malang - East Java I N D O N E S I A http://design.ibshastautama.com Merrill, Jason wrote: Geography is a huge factor though - where is the job located? 30k is really low though, just about anywhere. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?
Dollars? Pounds? Lira? Deutschmarks? Yen? And in which country? And which part of that country? I'm pretty sure I can guess which currency and country - but there is more world out there than just the USA, you know. Ian On 6/20/06, Tristan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does 30-55K a year sound right with benefits for a junior developer? I have a college degree and an extensive IT background but, I'm just now getting into a professional job environment developing but, I have been using flash for some time now. 30K sounds wa too low, would you agree? If someone had 2-3 years experience, what should a flash/flex developer get? What should they start at? Thanks T ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?
definetely Location it really DOES matters :) hehe because in Mexico ( where i live ) 30K a year its a well paid job... Usually most of programmers earn around 15K - 20K a year (thankfully not my case :| ), so if any guy is willing to provide a work visa to a humble mexican it will be very welcome :) haha On 6/20/06, Alias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Salary discussions are generally considered off topic on this list. However - if you would like to solicit offlist responses, I'm sure no-one will mind. Also, it might help to specify currency. Hope this helps, Alias On 6/20/06, Tristan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does 30-55K a year sound right with benefits for a junior developer? I have > a college degree and an extensive IT background but, I'm just now getting > into a professional job environment developing but, I have been using flash > for some time now. 30K sounds wa too low, would you agree? If someone > had 2-3 years experience, what should a flash/flex developer get? What > should they start at? > > Thanks > T > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?
55 - 60K is at the bottom of the ladder in the North East USA. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:03 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary? Ok, denver colorado On 6/20/06, Robert Chyko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All depends on location > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Tristan > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:47 AM > To: Flashcoders mailing list > Subject: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary? > > > Does 30-55K a year sound right with benefits for a junior developer? I > have a college degree and an extensive IT background but, I'm just now > getting into a professional job environment developing but, I have > been using flash for some time now. 30K sounds wa too low, would > you agree? If someone had 2-3 years experience, what should a > flash/flex developer get? What should they start at? > > Thanks > T > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?
30 k is pretty low...but yeah it depends on location. you say you have extensive IT experience, but do you have proven flash/flex expereince? that would make a big difference as well. On 6/20/06, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Geography is a huge factor though - where is the job located? 30k is really low though, just about anywhere. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan >>Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:47 AM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary? >> >>Does 30-55K a year sound right with benefits for a junior developer? I have >>a college degree and an extensive IT background but, I'm just now getting >>into a professional job environment developing but, I have been using flash >>for some time now. 30K sounds wa too low, would you agree? If someone >>had 2-3 years experience, what should a flash/flex developer get? What >>should they start at? >> >>Thanks >>T >>___ >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>http://www.figleaf.com >>http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?
Anyone give me some insight on what category to pick. There are so many. I'm currently looking in Internet and New Media http://monster.salary.com/salarywizard/layoutscripts/swzl_titleselect.asp?narrowdesc=Internet+and+New+Media&narrowcode=IT02&zipcode=80209&metrocode=&x=66&y=16 On 6/20/06, Tristan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, denver colorado On 6/20/06, Robert Chyko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All depends on location > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:47 AM > To: Flashcoders mailing list > Subject: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary? > > > Does 30-55K a year sound right with benefits for a junior developer? I > have > a college degree and an extensive IT background but, I'm just now > getting > into a professional job environment developing but, I have been using > flash > for some time now. 30K sounds wa too low, would you agree? If > someone > had 2-3 years experience, what should a flash/flex developer get? What > should they start at? > > Thanks > T > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?
Salary discussions are generally considered off topic on this list. However - if you would like to solicit offlist responses, I'm sure no-one will mind. Also, it might help to specify currency. Hope this helps, Alias On 6/20/06, Tristan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does 30-55K a year sound right with benefits for a junior developer? I have a college degree and an extensive IT background but, I'm just now getting into a professional job environment developing but, I have been using flash for some time now. 30K sounds wa too low, would you agree? If someone had 2-3 years experience, what should a flash/flex developer get? What should they start at? Thanks T ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?
Ok, denver colorado On 6/20/06, Robert Chyko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All depends on location -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:47 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary? Does 30-55K a year sound right with benefits for a junior developer? I have a college degree and an extensive IT background but, I'm just now getting into a professional job environment developing but, I have been using flash for some time now. 30K sounds wa too low, would you agree? If someone had 2-3 years experience, what should a flash/flex developer get? What should they start at? Thanks T ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?
Geography is a huge factor though - where is the job located? 30k is really low though, just about anywhere. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan >>Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:47 AM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary? >> >>Does 30-55K a year sound right with benefits for a junior developer? I have >>a college degree and an extensive IT background but, I'm just now getting >>into a professional job environment developing but, I have been using flash >>for some time now. 30K sounds wa too low, would you agree? If someone >>had 2-3 years experience, what should a flash/flex developer get? What >>should they start at? >> >>Thanks >>T >>___ >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>http://www.figleaf.com >>http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?
Check with Monster salary tool and check what other people are making in your neck of the woods. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tristan Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:47 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary? Does 30-55K a year sound right with benefits for a junior developer? I have a college degree and an extensive IT background but, I'm just now getting into a professional job environment developing but, I have been using flash for some time now. 30K sounds wa too low, would you agree? If someone had 2-3 years experience, what should a flash/flex developer get? What should they start at? Thanks T ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?
All depends on location -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:47 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary? Does 30-55K a year sound right with benefits for a junior developer? I have a college degree and an extensive IT background but, I'm just now getting into a professional job environment developing but, I have been using flash for some time now. 30K sounds wa too low, would you agree? If someone had 2-3 years experience, what should a flash/flex developer get? What should they start at? Thanks T ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
