Re: [Flashcoders] Flash 9 CS 3 and Flex framework
The way I see it the following is just bad OOP: var text:TextArea = myflashmovie.myClass.getText(); regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: Austin Kottke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 4:23 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash 9 CS 3 and Flex framework The main thing on this is if I load in a flash 9 cs3 swf with a textarea created. var t:TextArea; I then try and reference this same text area from flex var text:TextArea = myflashmovie.myClass.getText(); This would create a compiler error as the textarea would be the flex framework and the flash textarea would be the flash components. Not the same object. (This is an assumption as I dont have flash 9 cs3). Of course you can make a wrapper around the textarea object to return only the data you want such as a string, etc. But this is just an extra pain. As an example something in the flex framework's text area has methods that are not in the flash text area. Now you have to write code to accomodate for this. Does this make sense? Best, Austin ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flash 9 CS 3 and Flex framework
Hello, I am not sure I understand your question perfectly. If you are asking: Will I be able to create components in Flash CS3 and then use them inside a Flex application?, then answer is YES. We are working on some things that will make this much easier, in the relatively near term. -David Adobe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Austin Kottke Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 5:01 PM To: Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash 9 CS 3 and Flex framework Does anyone know if you're going to be able to call flash 9 CS3 components from flex? Ala accessing a button component in flash 9 cs3 on the stage with the flex framework? That way if you load in a flash 9 cs3 movie you can access the rest of the component set such as a datagrid component made in flash 9 cs3? Best, Austin ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash 9 CS 3 and Flex framework
Thanks David, That helps, however, I meant more of a workflow, like create the animation in flash cs3 and the animation has certain flash components in it, such as a datagrid at the end of the last frame or the flash animation has a few buttons in it on the side, along with other types such as a textarea. I would want to be able to reference these buttons and components from flex ideally or have some really nice work flow that would allow via as3 to reference those components. That way I can make some re-usable animations and use flex for the main structure, but have all of the animation power needed (this includes having buttons, comboboxes, made in flash cs3) directly accessible through flex. I bring this up as I had thought that there would be a problem with flash 9 cs3 NOT using the flex framework directly and the different types of buttons, datagrids would be an entirely different set of code made specifically for flash 9 cs3 (ie the datagrid in cs3 is not the same datagrid as flex). Im not totally tracking on adobe's plan to handle this issue. I'm just trying to see what the plan on the workflow integration between the to. The data on flash 9 cs3 is a bit general on this point so I want to get this clarified. Best, Austin David Mendels wrote: Hello, I am not sure I understand your question perfectly. If you are asking: Will I be able to create components in Flash CS3 and then use them inside a Flex application?, then answer is YES. We are working on some things that will make this much easier, in the relatively near term. -David Adobe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Austin Kottke Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 5:01 PM To: Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash 9 CS 3 and Flex framework Does anyone know if you're going to be able to call flash 9 CS3 components from flex? Ala accessing a button component in flash 9 cs3 on the stage with the flex framework? That way if you load in a flash 9 cs3 movie you can access the rest of the component set such as a datagrid component made in flash 9 cs3? Best, Austin ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash 9 CS 3 and Flex framework
Even if this will be possible, you probably should think about separating animation from non-animated visual elements (ui-components). Why bring in a different framework if Flex already has one? fl.controls.Button (CS3) vs mx.controls.Button (Flex) Different package, but the same Button though. In any way, your Flex app probably shouldn't be *talking* to assets inside a loaded swf (Flash or otherwise) directly anyway. The loaded swf should have its own class and handle things independant and dispatch events when needed to communicate to the outside (Flash -- Flex) and have public methods to allow communication in the other direction (Flex -- Flash). So I think the more important question is, will events dispatched from an FCS3 swf loaded in an Flex app be captured, or in other words, if a FCS3 swf has a (document) class associated with it, will Flex recognize it. My guess is that this is what they're currently (or have been) focusing on ;-) Right now the communication between Flex and a loaded (flash 8) swf is established through a LocalConnection. I guess we'll just have to wait and see ;-) regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: Austin Kottke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash 9 CS 3 and Flex framework Thanks David, That helps, however, I meant more of a workflow, like create the animation in flash cs3 and the animation has certain flash components in it, such as a datagrid at the end of the last frame or the flash animation has a few buttons in it on the side, along with other types such as a textarea. I would want to be able to reference these buttons and components from flex ideally or have some really nice work flow that would allow via as3 to reference those components. That way I can make some re-usable animations and use flex for the main structure, but have all of the animation power needed (this includes having buttons, comboboxes, made in flash cs3) directly accessible through flex. I bring this up as I had thought that there would be a problem with flash 9 cs3 NOT using the flex framework directly and the different types of buttons, datagrids would be an entirely different set of code made specifically for flash 9 cs3 (ie the datagrid in cs3 is not the same datagrid as flex). Im not totally tracking on adobe's plan to handle this issue. I'm just trying to see what the plan on the workflow integration between the to. The data on flash 9 cs3 is a bit general on this point so I want to get this clarified. Best, Austin ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash 9 CS 3 and Flex framework
Muzak, I mainly just want to be able to access components such as a text area and have it work in flex and flash and not have to worry about the kind of text area I'm using if its flex or flash. They should both be able to work together. Or a simple component such as a button, they should be recognized the same while calling it in flash or flex. If not, I can see major pains between the two. It would be nice if there is some brilliant workflow integration to handle this point. Otherwise we'll need to make an Interface for every flex to flash movie which is probably better structure wise, but what if we want to return objects from one framework to the next. Might bring up issues such as a text area from flash or flex. Best, Austin Muzak wrote: Even if this will be possible, you probably should think about separating animation from non-animated visual elements (ui-components). Why bring in a different framework if Flex already has one? fl.controls.Button (CS3) vs mx.controls.Button (Flex) Different package, but the same Button though. In any way, your Flex app probably shouldn't be *talking* to assets inside a loaded swf (Flash or otherwise) directly anyway. The loaded swf should have its own class and handle things independant and dispatch events when needed to communicate to the outside (Flash -- Flex) and have public methods to allow communication in the other direction (Flex -- Flash). So I think the more important question is, will events dispatched from an FCS3 swf loaded in an Flex app be captured, or in other words, if a FCS3 swf has a (document) class associated with it, will Flex recognize it. My guess is that this is what they're currently (or have been) focusing on ;-) Right now the communication between Flex and a loaded (flash 8) swf is established through a LocalConnection. I guess we'll just have to wait and see ;-) regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: Austin Kottke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash 9 CS 3 and Flex framework Thanks David, That helps, however, I meant more of a workflow, like create the animation in flash cs3 and the animation has certain flash components in it, such as a datagrid at the end of the last frame or the flash animation has a few buttons in it on the side, along with other types such as a textarea. I would want to be able to reference these buttons and components from flex ideally or have some really nice work flow that would allow via as3 to reference those components. That way I can make some re-usable animations and use flex for the main structure, but have all of the animation power needed (this includes having buttons, comboboxes, made in flash cs3) directly accessible through flex. I bring this up as I had thought that there would be a problem with flash 9 cs3 NOT using the flex framework directly and the different types of buttons, datagrids would be an entirely different set of code made specifically for flash 9 cs3 (ie the datagrid in cs3 is not the same datagrid as flex). Im not totally tracking on adobe's plan to handle this issue. I'm just trying to see what the plan on the workflow integration between the to. The data on flash 9 cs3 is a bit general on this point so I want to get this clarified. Best, Austin ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash 9 CS 3 and Flex framework
I mainly just want to be able to access components such as a text area and have it work in flex and flash and not have to worry about the kind of text area I'm using if its flex or flash. They should both be able to work together. Or a simple component such as a button, they should be recognized the same while calling it in flash or flex. If not, I can see major pains between the two. Not really, all you need is a class associated with the loaded swf that Flex can communicate with, as I explained in my previous post. It would be nice if there is some brilliant workflow integration to handle this point. Otherwise we'll need to make an Interface for every flex to flash movie which is probably better structure wise, but what if we want to return objects from one framework to the next. Might bring up issues such as a text area from flash or flex. Not sure where the Interface idea came from, but you don't need an Interface to work with Classes. What exaclty do you mean with return objects.. you mean data, as in Array, ArrayCollection? If so, with a class associated with the loaded swf that should be a walk in the park. regards, Muzak ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash 9 CS 3 and Flex framework
The main thing on this is if I load in a flash 9 cs3 swf with a textarea created. var t:TextArea; I then try and reference this same text area from flex var text:TextArea = myflashmovie.myClass.getText(); This would create a compiler error as the textarea would be the flex framework and the flash textarea would be the flash components. Not the same object. (This is an assumption as I dont have flash 9 cs3). Of course you can make a wrapper around the textarea object to return only the data you want such as a string, etc. But this is just an extra pain. As an example something in the flex framework's text area has methods that are not in the flash text area. Now you have to write code to accomodate for this. Does this make sense? Best, Austin Muzak wrote: I mainly just want to be able to access components such as a text area and have it work in flex and flash and not have to worry about the kind of text area I'm using if its flex or flash. They should both be able to work together. Or a simple component such as a button, they should be recognized the same while calling it in flash or flex. If not, I can see major pains between the two. Not really, all you need is a class associated with the loaded swf that Flex can communicate with, as I explained in my previous post. It would be nice if there is some brilliant workflow integration to handle this point. Otherwise we'll need to make an Interface for every flex to flash movie which is probably better structure wise, but what if we want to return objects from one framework to the next. Might bring up issues such as a text area from flash or flex. Not sure where the Interface idea came from, but you don't need an Interface to work with Classes. What exaclty do you mean with return objects.. you mean data, as in Array, ArrayCollection? If so, with a class associated with the loaded swf that should be a walk in the park. regards, Muzak ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
