RE: [Flashcoders] how are they doing this? Papervision3d or pre-rendered 3d?
Yeah that distortion feels like a papervision plane with not enough triangles BLITZ | Patrick Matte - 310-551-0200 x214 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Welch Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 7:49 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] how are they doing this? Papervision3d or pre-rendered 3d? I noticed that distortion also, which is why I was confused. I thought maybe that was a signature of papervision. On 9/16/07, Snepo - Arse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree, IMO tthe only video involved would be the initial sequence of the cards falling though that could easily be an image sequence. It is more likely that just the card turning effect is pre-rendered and the card content is composited at runtime. When the card turns you can see a slight crease in the middle of the content. It appears as though they are blitting the content to two bitmap objects (one left and one right side) then using a distortion technique to make the content conform to the card flipping animation. I would imagine that they have a single pre-rendered animation that they are applying a hue difference to in order to reuse it for all cards. They developers also seem to be doing some clever stuff to make each card unique... so perhaps the static cards are pre-rendered for each and only the flip animation is re-used. Arse www.snepo.com www.arseiam.com On 17/09/2007, at 7:50 AM, Jon Bradley wrote: It's video. On Sep 15, 2007, at 1:27 AM, Carl Welch wrote: Hi All, Does any one know how this site achieved its card flipping effect? Papervision3d or pre-rendered 3d? http://www.tripleslanguage.com/?CMP=BAC-1TO1Q3TP7042 Thanks. -- Carl Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] 805.403.4819 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Carl Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] 805.403.4819 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] how are they doing this? Papervision3d or pre-rendered 3d?
Whether they blit or not, everything is still a pre-rendered sequence, except the text. The clip layout is identical every time. I don't believe any distorian or 3d library API was used (ie PV3D or Sandy). There are a whole bunch of pre-rendered sequences that they are applying color transforms to to get the final cards. Anything to do with the card is pre-rendered. It's a 3MB file - look at the graphics. It's not 'composited' at runtime. Content is placed in a hierarchal layout - ie, old school Flash 6 style mc layout to get the look of perspective on a clip. The clips are separated into center content and bottom content (possibly top). The content is placed inside of that. Doing this through PV3D or Sandy, or any distortion API in actionscript wouldn't be a good approach anyway for something like this - not easily modified. Aside from the content on the card, it's still 'video' in the sense of all the pre-rendered sequences. cheers, jon On Sep 16, 2007, at 10:36 PM, Snepo - Arse wrote: I disagree, IMO tthe only video involved would be the initial sequence of the cards falling though that could easily be an image sequence. It is more likely that just the card turning effect is pre-rendered and the card content is composited at runtime. When the card turns you can see a slight crease in the middle of the content. It appears as though they are blitting the content to two bitmap objects (one left and one right side) then using a distortion technique to make the content conform to the card flipping animation. I would imagine that they have a single pre- rendered animation that they are applying a hue difference to in order to reuse it for all cards. They developers also seem to be doing some clever stuff to make each card unique... so perhaps the static cards are pre-rendered for each and only the flip animation is re-used. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] how are they doing this? Papervision3d or pre-rendered 3d?
Hi All, Does any one know how this site achieved its card flipping effect? Papervision3d or pre-rendered 3d? http://www.tripleslanguage.com/?CMP=BAC-1TO1Q3TP7042 Judging from the animation, it's a combination of both: a 3d distortion class (like PV3D, or others similar classes like Sandy or homebrew ones) is used on the card content (text and images), but the card itself is a pre-rendered animation that gets the color changed for each card (it's of high quality, employs some real motion blurring, etc). Zeh ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] how are they doing this? Papervision3d or pre-rendered 3d?
It's video. On Sep 15, 2007, at 1:27 AM, Carl Welch wrote: Hi All, Does any one know how this site achieved its card flipping effect? Papervision3d or pre-rendered 3d? http://www.tripleslanguage.com/?CMP=BAC-1TO1Q3TP7042 Thanks. -- Carl Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] 805.403.4819 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] how are they doing this? Papervision3d or pre-rendered 3d?
I disagree, IMO tthe only video involved would be the initial sequence of the cards falling though that could easily be an image sequence. It is more likely that just the card turning effect is pre-rendered and the card content is composited at runtime. When the card turns you can see a slight crease in the middle of the content. It appears as though they are blitting the content to two bitmap objects (one left and one right side) then using a distortion technique to make the content conform to the card flipping animation. I would imagine that they have a single pre-rendered animation that they are applying a hue difference to in order to reuse it for all cards. They developers also seem to be doing some clever stuff to make each card unique... so perhaps the static cards are pre-rendered for each and only the flip animation is re-used. Arse www.snepo.com www.arseiam.com On 17/09/2007, at 7:50 AM, Jon Bradley wrote: It's video. On Sep 15, 2007, at 1:27 AM, Carl Welch wrote: Hi All, Does any one know how this site achieved its card flipping effect? Papervision3d or pre-rendered 3d? http://www.tripleslanguage.com/?CMP=BAC-1TO1Q3TP7042 Thanks. -- Carl Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] 805.403.4819 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] how are they doing this? Papervision3d or pre-rendered 3d?
I noticed that distortion also, which is why I was confused. I thought maybe that was a signature of papervision. On 9/16/07, Snepo - Arse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree, IMO tthe only video involved would be the initial sequence of the cards falling though that could easily be an image sequence. It is more likely that just the card turning effect is pre-rendered and the card content is composited at runtime. When the card turns you can see a slight crease in the middle of the content. It appears as though they are blitting the content to two bitmap objects (one left and one right side) then using a distortion technique to make the content conform to the card flipping animation. I would imagine that they have a single pre-rendered animation that they are applying a hue difference to in order to reuse it for all cards. They developers also seem to be doing some clever stuff to make each card unique... so perhaps the static cards are pre-rendered for each and only the flip animation is re-used. Arse www.snepo.com www.arseiam.com On 17/09/2007, at 7:50 AM, Jon Bradley wrote: It's video. On Sep 15, 2007, at 1:27 AM, Carl Welch wrote: Hi All, Does any one know how this site achieved its card flipping effect? Papervision3d or pre-rendered 3d? http://www.tripleslanguage.com/?CMP=BAC-1TO1Q3TP7042 Thanks. -- Carl Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] 805.403.4819 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Carl Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] 805.403.4819 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
