Re: [flexcoders] max rows to return to a datagrid

[Adam Reynolds]

Woooah stop. So you are connecting via your dev machine over a 100mbit 
or more connection to your prod server and are measuring download of row 
counts

Suggest you set up some sort of bandwidth throttling on your machine, 
then try out your tests again. The issue isn't how many, but what the 
connections speed of the client is.

Honestly speaking, you need to look at use ability here. Nobody can see 
10,000 records, so get the 1st 100, display them (100 of 10456 records 
shown), and get the user working, not waiting. In the background get the 
rest *if you have to*.

You're going to get a sales person to demonstrate this at some point on 
a clients site and he's going to hook up to the internet via a mobile 
phone and you will lose the sale.

Also of note is that those 10k records you are retrieving is one server 
thread serving up your request for over a second. In a multi-user app, 
that type of unnecessary data bloat can easily cause massive performance 
issues.

Chad Gray wrote:
>
> That is on my dev box. It runs the SQL server and the CF server.
>
> The production box the SQL server is on a separate box. I just ran the 
> same test on the production box and it is less then a second. Of 
> course it is a much faster CPU.
>
> I bumped it up to 10,000 records and the production server is at 1 
> second now. The dev server is at 6seconds.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> 
> [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Adam Reynolds
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:41 AM
> To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [flexcoders] max rows to return to a datagrid
>
> Was that you working on your dev box or did you connect to a remote 
> server?
>
> Chad Gray wrote:
> >
> > I am using a Coldfusion CFC to return a query object that is bound to
> > a datagrid.
> >
> > Is there any rule of thumb as to how much data you should send to the
> > datagrid?
> >
> > I just tried 3000 rows of data and it took about a second for the
> > datagrid to display it.
> >
> >
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Re: [flexcoders] max rows to return to a datagrid

[Adam Reynolds]

Was that you working on your dev box or did you connect to a remote server?

Chad Gray wrote:
>
> I am using a Coldfusion CFC to return a query object that is bound to 
> a datagrid.
>
> Is there any rule of thumb as to how much data you should send to the 
> datagrid?
>
> I just tried 3000 rows of data and it took about a second for the 
> datagrid to display it.
>
>  

[flexcoders] AIR and Flex

[Adam Reynolds]

Hi,
After reading about the Air Derby winners 
http://blog.everythingflex.com/2007/10/02/air-derby-winners/

I downloaded and installed Digimix.

Please please please tell me that AIR is going to have a better removal 
system. It stuck the Digimix app launcher in the Start->All Programs 
folder rather than creating a separate folder for it and providing an 
uninstall facility as part of the install. I had to go into the control 
panel and remove it from there.

Now I don't know if this was the way the Digimix AIR app was designed or 
whether this is an inherent issue with the way Flex Air apps are built, 
but there needs to be an obvious uninstaller as part of an Air install 
and it should always create a folder into which the programme launcher 
goes (with associated uninstall).

I also noticed that the install process only gave me the option if I 
wanted to create a shortcut on the desktop only.

I expect to be downloading 10s of apps and trying them out. What I don't 
want is not obviously un-installable AIR apps all over the place.

This is not a criticism of Digimix, just a concern that AIR apps do not 
behave "installation wise" as I would expect by creating a programme 
launch folder which may also contains an uninstall option.

Adam

Re: [flexcoders] SalesBuilder in FLex(Source Code included)

[Adam Reynolds]

Online demo would be good.

Sheriff wrote:
> so did anyone download it? any opinions at all if it emulates the real one
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Sheriff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:10:30 PM
> Subject: [flexcoders] SalesBuilder in FLex(Source Code included)
>
> Hey, i decided that i am going to release the source code for the 
> SalesBuilder app done that was done in Air by
>
> Christophe Coenraets
> http://www.coenraet s.org/blog/ 
>
> Its under the MIT license so i have been told it is OK.
>
> I rewrote the entire thing to work in Flex, and added loads of 
> comments so anyone can understand what i am doing. Keep in mind that 
> this is my first programming language and i am only self taught. it's 
> been only ~5 month that i got into programing. So tell me if there is 
> something that i need to fix or if i am using wrong techniques. THis 
> program is functional about 85%, i still havent done the whole send 
> back to the database when somone clicks on save and some minor stuff 
> so it replicates it. I did the whole thing in one week before school 
> started so i am busy now and prob wont finish it till end of month. 
> Any how here is the link http://code. google.com/ p/salesbuilder/ 
> downloads/ list 
>
> --You need Coldfusion 8
> --Microsoft sql 2005
> --You must create a dataSource in the coldfusion admin called SalesBuilder
> -Database in sql must also be called SalesBuilder
> --I used 8500 for the port for coldfusion,
>
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex on Mac

[Adam Reynolds]

Personally I would get a PC BUT only because you are not limiting 
yourself to running Adobe products. You want a play machine.

As you are running CF and X databases as well I would recommend 2GB of 
RAM. Graphics card is not so important.




Arleston Lueders wrote:
>
> Thanks guys. At this moment I can affoard a MacBook 2.0GHz, 1gb RAM 
> (up to 2), 80gb HD.
> Is it a good deal get a Mac? because with the same price you can get a 
> better PC (with non-board video, more ram and hd,...).
> My main goal is using Adobe tools (Flash, Flex, Fireworks, 
> ColdFusion... ), and if the machine supports... will run some games 
> like counter strike, winning eleven.
> Its a big question... pc or apple. :)
>
> Thanks again!
> (sorry about my english)
>
> 2007/5/11, Johannes Nel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >:
>
> runs fine.
>
> On 5/11/07, *Arleston Lueders* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>
> Hello everybody!
>
> I'm thinking in buy a MacBook. Does anyone have a Mac here?
> What do you think about it?
> And the Flex will run normal on Mac, right?
>
> Thanks,
> Arleston
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> j:pn
> http://www.lennel.org 
>
>
>  

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Will Microsoft's new Silverlight Player Kill our beloved Flex ?

[Adam Reynolds]

Tom Chiverton wrote:
> On Monday 30 Apr 2007, emendezgonzalez wrote:
>   
>> Just an idea,
>> 
>
> Why would you want to do it though ?
>
>   
When editing out content, can you keep the context of the previous 
message? I have no idea what this one is about :)



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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 3.0 - What happened to letting Flex 2 bed in?

[Adam Reynolds]

I must admit I now have a warm fuzzy feeling now :)

Thank you for the feedback.

Merrill, Jason wrote:
>
> Thanks David and Ted - great to see Adobe so active on this list - 
> helps puts us as ease and helps with product buy-in.  Makes you all 
> seem so less evil ;). 
>  
>
> Jason Merrill
> Bank of America
> Learning & Organizational Effectiveness 
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 3.0 - What happened to letting Flex 2 bed in?

[Adam Reynolds]

I think 2.0.1 is an indication of what possibly went wrong. They 
introduced modules. 500 bugs, fix 250, and then introduce new features. WTF?

and now flex 3. What I'm assuming here is developer idea overload. Flex 
2 is fantastic and suddenly they realise how powerful it is, but they 
want to add new features, even though the old ones are buggy. Could even 
be a yeah we know that component is not quite right, but we re-wrote it 
completely, added in new functions now that we 'understand' what we can 
do with Flex. Is it worth fixing the issues with F2? No release the new 
component with F3.

I have a feeling this is what is happening, and although I don't mind 
it, it's not 'cricket'.

I am literally picking up my F2 box today. Knowing F3 Beta is about to 
start is a bit f'd up.

If Adobe are going to start releasing a new version every 6-9 months, 
could they at least agree that they will patch 95% of the outstanding 
bugs in each version before releasing the new one. If they are not 
prepared to do this, can they at least provide some concessions to 
people that will need to upgrade F2 to F3.

I'm pleased that Adobe feel that Flex needs a new major version and not 
a dot release. It implies they've been working hard on some new and 
exciting features. What I need more than anything else however is a 
solid stable Flex environment. I can extend Flex to my hearts content 
with various components as I need them. Just give me a 100% fantastic 
stable environment please. That is more critical than a new and exciting 
'features'.

Adam
Tom Chiverton wrote:
> On Thursday 25 January 2007 10:16, Adam Reynolds wrote:
>   
>> I'm assuming Adobe will not be charging much for upgrades from 2 to 3
>> and is it really such a good idea to be going up a whole new version
>> when Flex 2 has literally been around for months, not even years.
>> 
>
> The Flex 2 SDK is free, and I'm looking for a strong statement from Adobe 
> that 
> 3 will follow in the same vain.
>
> It's normal for a free upgrade to be given if a major version comes out close 
> enough to when you purchased the older version.
>
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[flexcoders] Flex 3.0 - What happened to letting Flex 2 bed in?

[Adam Reynolds]

I don't know if anybody else has signed up for the Flex 3 beta, but does 
anyone else feel that Flex 3 is a little bit too close to Flex 2?

I was discussing this with an editor of a PC magazine, here in the UK, 
and he was very surprised.

I'm assuming Adobe will not be charging much for upgrades from 2 to 3 
and is it really such a good idea to be going up a whole new version 
when Flex 2 has literally been around for months, not even years.

I really would like Adobe to comment on this as this seems a bit messed 
up. Can they assure the community that there will be a minor charge for 
upgrading from 2 to 3?

Adam

[flexcoders] 2.0.1 release - Patch?

[Adam Reynolds]

Hi Guys,
I'm assuming with the number of issues people are having with 2.0.1, 
Adobe will be releasing a patch at some point?

Adam

[flexcoders] Flex 2.0.1 Developer Ready?

[Adam Reynolds]

Knowing the way Macrobe work, I've held off on working with Flex 2 until 
the 2.0.1 release , however is it me or is 2.0.1 still in Beta? I'm 
assuming most of the issues appear to be caused by moving from 2.0 to 
2.0.1, but some look more serious.

*sigh*

Re: [flexcoders] To Adobe - new release improvements??

[Adam Reynolds]

Any link to what has been fixed?

Matt Chotin wrote:
>
> The performance is on par with 2.0, we didn’t make any major 
> improvements, sorry. Nor are project path issues addressed. Number of 
> bugs fixed between SDK and Flex Builder is over 500 though.
>
> Matt
>
> 
>
> *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> *On Behalf Of *Daniel Wabyick
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:35 AM
> *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [flexcoders] To Adobe - new release improvements??
>
> Hey Adobe guys,
>
> Is it possible for you to address some of the major (or non-major)
> improvements in the coming Flex release?
>
> In particular, I am keen to know if there were significant improvements
> made to Flexbuilder itself. Stuff like increased compiler performance,
> ease of use with relative paths, etc would be of interest to me. A
> close second would be roughly the number of bugs fixed in the actually
> Flex UI framework.
>
> As my project continues to grow, I am definitely getting antsy for a new
> release!
>
> Thanks,
> -Daniel
>
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2.1?

[Adam Reynolds]

Yeah, the main issue is one of finding the time :)


Rick Root wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Don't waste your time waiting. Even if there is a bug fix update to
> Flex 2, it won't be dramatic, because obviously Flex 2 already works
> really well. So you can start your learning curve now, or start it at
> some unspecified point in the future.
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> Rick
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[flexcoders] Flex 2.1?

[Adam Reynolds]

I am interested in when/if Flex 2.1/2.0.1 is around the corner?

I'm taking my cue from Coldfusion MX 6 on this which only really became 
viable with the release of 6.1. I have noticed a number of bug posts, 
but nothing critical which is great.

I'm unfortunately being very pragmatic about this and am planning to 
begin serious development when I get the time (hard part) and ideally 
once there has been at least one 'patch' to Flex 2.

So if anybody has any information that would be greatly appreciated.



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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline

[Adam Reynolds]

Almost wish I hadn't asked :)

Still it's nice to feel that Adobe are listening.

Louie Penaflor wrote:
>
> This is a good point. I believe Adobe also tried to replicate a bug I 
> was getting on Flex 2 builder, even when we didn’t purchase the 
> software yet. I was still testing it out and got excellent support.
>
> 
>
> *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> *On Behalf Of *Impudent1
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:47 PM
> *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline
>
> .02
>
> Well my experience is with the other adobe teams. BUT
>
> I have had devs/engineers call me on a sunday. On their own dime, to see
> what we could sort out regarding some persistant but hard to nail bugs.
>
> All the teams at adobe I have had the pleasure of working with have all
> busted themselves to make sure things were working. As for flex, we get
> a huge commitment just in them answering things on this list, not to
> mention all the adobe blogs with examples etc.
>
> I personally think anyone who cries for 24 hour personal tech service
> should be paying a hefty price for a yearly agreement ;)
>
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[flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline

[Adam Reynolds]

Before I dive headlong into my first full Flex 2 project, can anybody 
from Adobe give me an update as to when/if there will be a patch for Flex 2?

Adam






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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...

[Adam Reynolds]

Tom,
It's your life. You are more than welcome to choose how you difficult 
you want to make it for yourself...

Tom Chiverton wrote:
> On Friday 28 July 2006 15:48, gotgoose09 wrote:
>   
>> It's so much easier with Flex Builder though. :) Until something free
>> with Flex code completion comes out I'd rather use Flex Builder.
>> 
>
> You mean like Eclipse (with WTP and ... someones :-) ... XML schema) ?
> Flex builder isn't an option for me because for no very good reason it only 
> runs on Windows.
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...

[Adam Reynolds]

Tom,
You need to give yourself an hourly rate and then ask yourself how much 
money the IDE will save you. The effort involved in not using the IDE 
could end up costing you more in the long run.

I do think the charting is just a nice to have, and people will release 
their own cheap/free charting components so you can save yourself even 
more money by not going for that option.

2 years from now when somebody releases flexClipse (tm) free IDE then 
this may be a different conversation.:)

gotgoose09 wrote:
>
> It's so much easier with Flex Builder though. :) Until something free
> with Flex code completion comes out I'd rather use Flex Builder.
> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
> , Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday 27 July 2006 16:30, Shannon Hicks wrote:
> > > Download the trial versions of Flex 2, or go buy a retail copy
> ($749 with
> > > charting) or an educational copy ($79 with charting).
> >
> > I've a better idea.
> > Download the free SDK and don't pay anything. Ever :-)
> >
> > --
> > Tom Chiverton
> >
> > 
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