RE: [flexcoders] ColdFusion vs. PHP as the back-end
Thanks for that response; it was very helpful! Ill need to do some tries of my own as I generally end up being both the client and the back-end developer for many of the projects I work on. Ville From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JesterXL Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 19:23 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] ColdFusion vs. PHP as the back-end First, you CAN pass ValueObjects via Java and PHP. Java via OpenAMF, and PHP via AMFPHP. ColdFusion just now has the edge. Second, Remoting as we refer to it, allows you to: 1.call back-end services like you'd call regular methods 2.pass class objects instead of vanilla data (like Java POJO's), or XML or URL params for simple string / value pairs. Strong typing for server communication... pimp! 3.allow better communication between you, the client developer, and the back-end developer on what you are sending eachother 4.pass the data in binary So, myCFC.doStuff ( somePersonVO );. If you are sending a Person Class to some method, then the back-end guy knows exactly what you are really sending him. Same when he says to you, Yeah, it'll return a list of PersonVO's. That means, you'll get an array full of Person ValueObject class instances. Finally, usually, binary AMF communications is smaller than regular AJAX XML, WebService, and HTTP posts. Dave Wolf from Cynergy systems will have contentions with that 4th point, mainly because his tests with WebServices seems to have renderered good results in 1.5. Flash Player 9, however, has greatly improved upon AMF's size via AMF3 encoding, so it'd be good to hear if he has any new tests. - Original Message - From: Ville Walveranta To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 7:43 PM Subject: [flexcoders] ColdFusion vs. PHP as the back-end I started my quest to explore Flex rather recently; I never did much with v1.5, mostly because the cost involved to launch any commercial solution created with it. Now, with 2.0 its pretty exciting to see everything that is now, rather easily (and inexpensively!), possible to do. But one thing Im not quite clear on yet: what is the difference, or benefit from, between basic remoting as is possible with PHP/CF/ASP.NET, and the extended interaction with ColdFusion which makes it possible to pass actual instances of Actionscript Classes and have them map directly into a CFC Instances and vice versa (a quote from Tim Buntels blog)? Thanks for any insights! Ville __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
RE: [flexcoders] ColdFusion vs. PHP as the back-end
If you want to go hardcore though, Java is your best option. Why Java over PHP in this instance? PHP is a very capable language, albeit maybe a little fragmented due to its nature. Perhpas the biggest thing that bothers me in it is the lack of thread safety (which, obviously, is not an issue with languages such as CF or Java that have been written from ground up, and that dont rely on a plethora of third party modules). Ville From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bjorn Schultheiss Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 01:33 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] ColdFusion vs. PHP as the back-end Im using a CF backend in my personal flex joints. Its very easy to set-up and the wizards are a nice touch for the UI guys. If you want to go hardcore though, Java is your best option. I dont need Php, Im not poor. Regards, Bjorn Schultheiss Senior Flash Developer QDC Technologies From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ville Walveranta Sent: Thursday, 6 July 2006 9:44 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] ColdFusion vs. PHP as the back-end I started my quest to explore Flex rather recently; I never did much with v1.5, mostly because the cost involved to launch any commercial solution created with it. Now, with 2.0 its pretty exciting to see everything that is now, rather easily (and inexpensively!), possible to do. But one thing Im not quite clear on yet: what is the difference, or benefit from, between basic remoting as is possible with PHP/CF/ASP.NET, and the extended interaction with ColdFusion which makes it possible to pass actual instances of Actionscript Classes and have them map directly into a CFC Instances and vice versa (a quote from Tim Buntels blog)? Thanks for any insights! Ville __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[flexcoders] ColdFusion vs. PHP as the back-end
I started my quest to explore Flex rather recently; I never did much with v1.5, mostly because the cost involved to launch any commercial solution created with it. Now, with 2.0 its pretty exciting to see everything that is now, rather easily (and inexpensively!), possible to do. But one thing Im not quite clear on yet: what is the difference, or benefit from, between basic remoting as is possible with PHP/CF/ASP.NET, and the extended interaction with ColdFusion which makes it possible to pass actual instances of Actionscript Classes and have them map directly into a CFC Instances and vice versa (a quote from Tim Buntels blog)? Thanks for any insights! Ville __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
RE: [flexcoders] Flash player support for printer resolutions 300DPI?
Hello everybody! (I just joined the list. :-) I was recently working on a Flash/ActionScript (not yet Flex) project which also required printing. While Flash has no printing capability, the solution was to send the print parameters via remoting to the server running PHP, then to create a PDF utilizing PDFLIB (http://www.pdflib.com) based on the parameters sent by the Flash applet. Once PDF is complete, the Flash (or Flex) is then informed of the filename for the PDF document and/or the document is opened automatically in a new browser window (from where it can be printed at full resolution). Sort of an intermediary solution until higher DPI printing becomes a possiblity from within Flex. Whether this solution can be used depends on whether the material to be printed *can* be recreated on the server. Intro on PDFLIB PHP here - http://www.sitepoint.com/article/generate-pdfs-php/ Ville From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack W. Caldwell Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 21:30 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flash player support for printer resolutions 300DPI? Is this Flash in a native mode or a Flex app running in Flash Player 9? If you are telling me that a Flex 2 app running in Flash Player 9 can not print to a typically configured laser printer, then we have problems. What printers out there . . .print at 300 DPI? No user is going to want to drop down to 300 DPI and most won't even know how to do it. Somebody tell me we are missing something? Thanks, Jack From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of alex_aka_joe Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 5:20 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flash player support for printer resolutions 300DPI? From tests I have done, it appears that flash player 9 is not capable of sending data to the printer with a resolution greater than 300 DPI. Scaling an image to a size such that pixels are smaller than this results in printing artifacts. http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/8/releasenotes.html indicates that this is the case for flash player 8 too. Can anyone confirm this for me or is anyone aware of any plans for future releases of flash player to support 600 or 1200 DPI? __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
RE: [flexcoders] Flex and commercial use
No. Its free for the 30 days trial. Then the cost is $499 per developer license as shown here: https://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/index.cfm?store=OLS-USview=ols_prodcategory=/Applications/FlexBuilderNR=0 You can use ColdFusion, PHP, ASP.NET, or Flex Data Services 2 (free for single-CPU setup, even for commercial use) as the back-end. But does someone know how much does FDS multi-CPU or multi-app license cost? I couldnt find it on Adobe site. Ville From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of eduardopichler Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 11:51 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex and commercial use Is Flex free for commercial use on a single cpu? __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
RE: [flexcoders] Flex and commercial use
Yeah, its the IDE that costs $499, but its not necessary to create Flex apps (as the compiler is free), though it does make the life with Flex much easier :-). Ville From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stacy Young Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:45 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex and commercial use Flex apps can be developed and deployed for free. If you wish to *also* use Flex Data Services, yes, its free for single CPU use How far you can take that will of course depend on the hardware for that one box! Cheers, Stace From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of eduardopichler Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:51 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex and commercial use Is Flex free for commercial use on a single cpu? AVIS IMPORTANT WARNING Ce message électronique et ses pièces jointes peuvent contenir des renseignements confidentiels, exclusifs ou légalement privilégiés destinés au seul usage du destinataire visé. L'expéditeur original ne renonce à aucun privilège ou à aucun autre droit si le présent message a été transmis involontairement ou s'il est retransmis sans son autorisation. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire visé du présent message ou si vous l'avez reçu par erreur, veuillez cesser immédiatement de le lire et le supprimer, ainsi que toutes ses pièces jointes, de votre système. La lecture, la distribution, la copie ou tout autre usage du présent message ou de ses pièces jointes par des personnes autres que le destinataire visé ne sont pas autorisés et pourraient être illégaux. Si vous avez reçu ce courrier électronique par erreur, veuillez en aviser l'expéditeur. This electronic message and its attachments may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information, which is solely for the use of the intended recipient. No privilege or other rights are waived by any unintended transmission or unauthorized retransmission of this message. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if you have received it in error, you should immediately stop reading this message and delete it and all attachments from your system. The reading, distribution, copying or other use of this message or its attachments by unintended recipients is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender. __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
