RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 Cairngorm and Data Binding

2006-05-11 Thread Tom Chiverton



>>> On Thu, May 11, 2006 at  1:29 PM, in message

[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> Would you say that it is one of the better/key features of the Flex
> framework?

I'd say key.
Look at how the Spry framework does the same thing for HTML based
applications.
It saves *soo* much legwork and bug-introducing update code.



Tom Chiverton



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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 Cairngorm and Data Binding

2006-05-11 Thread Johannes Nel



YES. this is a core feature of what flex has to offer.On 5/11/06, Simon Fifield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:






Would you say that it is one of the better/key features of 
the Flex framework?
 
Simon


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven 
WebsterSent: 11 May 2006 11:51To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 
Cairngorm and Data Binding

Simon,
 
Data-binding is good.  Very good.  We advocate it 
hugely, and the ModelLocator pattern which we added to Cairngorm was our way of 
encouraging people to leverage data-binding more than we were seeing they were, 
during consulting engagements.  Have bindings.  Lots of them, between 
the Model (ModelLocator) and the view (your MXML components).  Let 
data-binding do the hard work of model-view notifications.
 
Data-binding is simply a short-hand notation for setting up 
observers/listeners; if you didn't use data-binding, you'd have to do this 
heavy-lifting yourself.
 
Perhaps data-binding can be abused (used the wrong way - 
though I can't offer any examples), but overused ?  I don't think 
so.
 
Best wishes,
 
Steven
 



  
  

  


  
  

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 Of Simon 
FifieldSent: 11 May 2006 11:14To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 Cairngorm 
and Data Binding

  
  
  For a member of 
  the Cairngorm team or anyone who is a Cairngorm expert:
   
  Is it good to use 
  Data Binding with Cairngorm or should it be avoided?
   
  Can Data Binding 
  be "overused"?
   
   
  Regards,
  Simon





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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 Cairngorm and Data Binding

2006-05-11 Thread Simon Fifield





Would you say that it is one of the better/key features of 
the Flex framework?
 
Simon


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven 
WebsterSent: 11 May 2006 11:51To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 
Cairngorm and Data Binding

Simon,
 
Data-binding is good.  Very good.  We advocate it 
hugely, and the ModelLocator pattern which we added to Cairngorm was our way of 
encouraging people to leverage data-binding more than we were seeing they were, 
during consulting engagements.  Have bindings.  Lots of them, between 
the Model (ModelLocator) and the view (your MXML components).  Let 
data-binding do the hard work of model-view notifications.
 
Data-binding is simply a short-hand notation for setting up 
observers/listeners; if you didn't use data-binding, you'd have to do this 
heavy-lifting yourself.
 
Perhaps data-binding can be abused (used the wrong way - 
though I can't offer any examples), but overused ?  I don't think 
so.
 
Best wishes,
 
Steven
 



  
  

  


  
  

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Internet Applications)Adobe ConsultingWestpoint, 4 Redheughs 
Rigg, South Gyle, Edinburgh, EH12 9DQ, UKp: +44 (0) 131 338 
6108
m: +44 (0) 7917 428 947 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
 
 Of Simon 
FifieldSent: 11 May 2006 11:14To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 Cairngorm 
and Data Binding

  
  
  For a member of 
  the Cairngorm team or anyone who is a Cairngorm expert:
   
  Is it good to use 
  Data Binding with Cairngorm or should it be avoided?
   
  Can Data Binding 
  be "overused"?
   
   
  Regards,
  Simon





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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 Cairngorm and Data Binding

2006-05-11 Thread Tom Chiverton



>>> On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 11:14 AM, in message

[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Can't say I'm an expert, but certainly a big fan :-)

> Is it good to use Data Binding with Cairngorm

Yes, absolutely !
Anywhere you need to show some sort of item to a user (list of products
in the store example), the control that displays them show be using data
binding into the modelLocator.
  
> Can Data Binding be "overused"?

Probably, anything can be.
It may be overkill to bind all your on-screen static text, for
instance. OTOH if you later want to i18n the app, it'll make it easier
:-)


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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 Cairngorm and Data Binding

2006-05-11 Thread Steven Webster





Simon,
 
Data-binding is good.  Very good.  We advocate it 
hugely, and the ModelLocator pattern which we added to Cairngorm was our way of 
encouraging people to leverage data-binding more than we were seeing they were, 
during consulting engagements.  Have bindings.  Lots of them, between 
the Model (ModelLocator) and the view (your MXML components).  Let 
data-binding do the hard work of model-view notifications.
 
Data-binding is simply a short-hand notation for setting up 
observers/listeners; if you didn't use data-binding, you'd have to do this 
heavy-lifting yourself.
 
Perhaps data-binding can be abused (used the wrong way - 
though I can't offer any examples), but overused ?  I don't think 
so.
 
Best wishes,
 
Steven
 



  
  

  


  
  

Steven WebsterPractice Director (Rich 
Internet Applications)Adobe ConsultingWestpoint, 4 Redheughs 
Rigg, South Gyle, Edinburgh, EH12 9DQ, UKp: +44 (0) 131 338 
6108
m: +44 (0) 7917 428 947 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
 
 Of Simon 
FifieldSent: 11 May 2006 11:14To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 Cairngorm 
and Data Binding

  
  
  For a member of 
  the Cairngorm team or anyone who is a Cairngorm expert:
   
  Is it good to use 
  Data Binding with Cairngorm or should it be avoided?
   
  Can Data Binding 
  be "overused"?
   
   
  Regards,
  Simon





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[flexcoders] Flex 1.5 Cairngorm and Data Binding

2006-05-11 Thread Simon Fifield






For a member of the 
Cairngorm team or anyone who is a Cairngorm expert:
 
Is it good to use 
Data Binding with Cairngorm or should it be avoided?
 
Can Data Binding be 
"overused"?
 
 
Regards,
Simon





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