RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?)
Tolulope, We have used ColdFusion with our Flex development and are pleased with it. But I see that there is a trade-off to consider, rapid prototyping of ColdFusion vs. compiler support in catching type errors in Java. I'm sure there are many other trade-offs, but this one seem paramount to me. HTH, Allen From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tolulope OlonadeSent: 07 June 2005 08:16To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) So Allen, You’d rather not use Coldfusion? From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen ManningSent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:44 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Tolulope, One thing to keep in mind is that ColdFusion is not strongly typed. So although it allows you to whip up server - side Java code rapidly, the compiler doesn't support you in catching typing issues. HTH, Allen Allen Manning, Technical Director - Certified Instructor Prismix Ltd t: +44 (0)870 749 1100 f: +44 (0)870 749 1200 w: www.prismix.com From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tolulope OlonadeSent: 06 June 2005 12:00To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Thanks All, David what about people like me comfortable with C family of languages like C/C++ and C#? I heard the transition from those languages to Java is not much? How true is that? There was a time I was trying to set up a Java web development environment and I had to fiddle with things like JBoss, Apache,Tomcat, http conf, text files, xml files etc On the contrary on IIS its just few clicks and you are up and running… I think Xamlon is trying to preempt Macromedia by throwing weight behind these families of developers i.e. they love flash but prefer C# on MS.NET OR Click once Web/App server deployment. So between CFM and Java help compare ease of use AND Power to achieve things from a Flex perspective. Thanks a lot. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David MendelsSent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:46 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Hi, I think you will find Flex is equally well designed to work with both CFMX (which itself runs on J2EE) or any of the widely used Java/J2EE servers. Your choice at that tier should be based on other considerations. In general, if you are already using CFMX, I'd stay with it; if you are already using Java/J2EE I'd stay with that. If you are not familiar with Java/J2EE ColdFusion is a faster learning curve and a more RAD model for building apps and I would reccomend you check it out. Regards, David Macromedia From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tolulope OlonadeSent: Monday, June 06, 2005 3:10 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Can anyone please hit the bull’s eye for me on which server side platform Flex is best with? I know there no support for .NET for now. But what of ColdFusion and Java as most of our applications here tie into Databases a lot. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?)
So Allen, You’d rather not use Coldfusion? From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Manning Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:44 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Tolulope, One thing to keep in mind is that ColdFusion is not strongly typed. So although it allows you to whip up server - side Java code rapidly, the compiler doesn't support you in catching typing issues. HTH, Allen Allen Manning, Technical Director - Certified Instructor Prismix Ltd t: +44 (0)870 749 1100 f: +44 (0)870 749 1200 w: www.prismix.com From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tolulope Olonade Sent: 06 June 2005 12:00 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Thanks All, David what about people like me comfortable with C family of languages like C/C++ and C#? I heard the transition from those languages to Java is not much? How true is that? There was a time I was trying to set up a Java web development environment and I had to fiddle with things like JBoss, Apache,Tomcat, http conf, text files, xml files etc On the contrary on IIS its just few clicks and you are up and running… I think Xamlon is trying to preempt Macromedia by throwing weight behind these families of developers i.e. they love flash but prefer C# on MS.NET OR Click once Web/App server deployment. So between CFM and Java help compare ease of use AND Power to achieve things from a Flex perspective. Thanks a lot. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Mendels Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:46 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Hi, I think you will find Flex is equally well designed to work with both CFMX (which itself runs on J2EE) or any of the widely used Java/J2EE servers. Your choice at that tier should be based on other considerations. In general, if you are already using CFMX, I'd stay with it; if you are already using Java/J2EE I'd stay with that. If you are not familiar with Java/J2EE ColdFusion is a faster learning curve and a more RAD model for building apps and I would reccomend you check it out. Regards, David Macromedia From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tolulope Olonade Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 3:10 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Can anyone please hit the bull’s eye for me on which server side platform Flex is best with? I know there no support for .NET for now. But what of ColdFusion and Java as most of our applications here tie into Databases a lot. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?)
Tolulope, One thing to keep in mind is that ColdFusion is not strongly typed. So although it allows you to whip up server - side Java code rapidly, the compiler doesn't support you in catching typing issues. HTH, Allen Allen Manning, Technical Director - Certified Instructor Prismix Ltd t: +44 (0)870 749 1100 f: +44 (0)870 749 1200 w: www.prismix.com From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tolulope OlonadeSent: 06 June 2005 12:00To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Thanks All, David what about people like me comfortable with C family of languages like C/C++ and C#? I heard the transition from those languages to Java is not much? How true is that? There was a time I was trying to set up a Java web development environment and I had to fiddle with things like JBoss, Apache,Tomcat, http conf, text files, xml files etc On the contrary on IIS its just few clicks and you are up and running… I think Xamlon is trying to preempt Macromedia by throwing weight behind these families of developers i.e. they love flash but prefer C# on MS.NET OR Click once Web/App server deployment. So between CFM and Java help compare ease of use AND Power to achieve things from a Flex perspective. Thanks a lot. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David MendelsSent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:46 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Hi, I think you will find Flex is equally well designed to work with both CFMX (which itself runs on J2EE) or any of the widely used Java/J2EE servers. Your choice at that tier should be based on other considerations. In general, if you are already using CFMX, I'd stay with it; if you are already using Java/J2EE I'd stay with that. If you are not familiar with Java/J2EE ColdFusion is a faster learning curve and a more RAD model for building apps and I would reccomend you check it out. Regards, David Macromedia From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tolulope OlonadeSent: Monday, June 06, 2005 3:10 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Can anyone please hit the bull’s eye for me on which server side platform Flex is best with? I know there no support for .NET for now. But what of ColdFusion and Java as most of our applications here tie into Databases a lot. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?)
Jeez J I must have been lost for a while ! Thanks Rick. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Bullotta Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 12:50 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) More good news: It is absolutely trival to front-end a .NET web service (or a REST service, using .NET's HttpRequestHandler) with Flex. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Tolulope Olonade Sent: Mon 6/6/2005 7:48 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Are you serious ! Flex & .NET!! Thanks a lot! Flex and here I come then J Regards! Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?)
More good news: It is absolutely trival to front-end a .NET web service (or a REST service, using .NET's HttpRequestHandler) with Flex. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Tolulope Olonade Sent: Mon 6/6/2005 7:48 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Are you serious ! Flex & .NET!! Thanks a lot! Flex and here I come then :-) Regards! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ <>
RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?)
Are you serious ! Flex & .NET!! Thanks a lot! Flex and here I come then J Regards! From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dirk Eismann Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 12:29 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) > You will not be able to use the remote object tag, but there > are a lot of valid data access strategies you can consider. actually you can: Mm offers a Flash Remoting for .NET product that can be used with .NET, also there's flashorb, a third party remoting product for .NET Dirk. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?)
> You will not be able to use the remote object tag, but there > are a lot of valid data access strategies you can consider. actually you can: Mm offers a Flash Remoting for .NET product that can be used with .NET, also there's flashorb, a third party remoting product for .NET Dirk. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?)
Hi, The benefit of ColdFusion is that you get all of the Java platform (it compiles to Java byte code, and can run standalone with our embedded J2EE server or on top of any major J2EE server, and you can extend it with Java code and third party Java libraries directly) *and* it is drop dead simple to install, configure and get started. You get ease of use and power. You can use Flex and .NET as well. Put the Flex server on Tomcat or another lowcost Java server but put your business logic on your .NET server and communicate via webservices/XML. You will not be able to use the remote object tag, but there are a lot of valid data access strategies you can consider. Regards, David From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tolulope OlonadeSent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:55 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Thanks All, David what about people like me comfortable with C family of languages like C/C++ and C#? I heard the transition from those languages to Java is not much? How true is that? There was a time I was trying to set up a Java web development environment and I had to fiddle with things like JBoss, Apache,Tomcat, http conf, text files, xml files etc On the contrary on IIS its just few clicks and you are up and running… I think Xamlon is trying to preempt Macromedia by throwing weight behind these families of developers i.e. they love flash but prefer C# on MS.NET OR Click once Web/App server deployment. So between CFM and Java help compare ease of use AND Power to achieve things from a Flex perspective. Thanks a lot. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David MendelsSent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:46 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Hi, I think you will find Flex is equally well designed to work with both CFMX (which itself runs on J2EE) or any of the widely used Java/J2EE servers. Your choice at that tier should be based on other considerations. In general, if you are already using CFMX, I'd stay with it; if you are already using Java/J2EE I'd stay with that. If you are not familiar with Java/J2EE ColdFusion is a faster learning curve and a more RAD model for building apps and I would reccomend you check it out. Regards, David Macromedia From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tolulope OlonadeSent: Monday, June 06, 2005 3:10 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Can anyone please hit the bull’s eye for me on which server side platform Flex is best with? I know there no support for .NET for now. But what of ColdFusion and Java as most of our applications here tie into Databases a lot. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?)
Thanks All, David what about people like me comfortable with C family of languages like C/C++ and C#? I heard the transition from those languages to Java is not much? How true is that? There was a time I was trying to set up a Java web development environment and I had to fiddle with things like JBoss, Apache,Tomcat, http conf, text files, xml files etc On the contrary on IIS its just few clicks and you are up and running… I think Xamlon is trying to preempt Macromedia by throwing weight behind these families of developers i.e. they love flash but prefer C# on MS.NET OR Click once Web/App server deployment. So between CFM and Java help compare ease of use AND Power to achieve things from a Flex perspective. Thanks a lot. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Mendels Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:46 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Hi, I think you will find Flex is equally well designed to work with both CFMX (which itself runs on J2EE) or any of the widely used Java/J2EE servers. Your choice at that tier should be based on other considerations. In general, if you are already using CFMX, I'd stay with it; if you are already using Java/J2EE I'd stay with that. If you are not familiar with Java/J2EE ColdFusion is a faster learning curve and a more RAD model for building apps and I would reccomend you check it out. Regards, David Macromedia From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tolulope Olonade Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 3:10 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Can anyone please hit the bull’s eye for me on which server side platform Flex is best with? I know there no support for .NET for now. But what of ColdFusion and Java as most of our applications here tie into Databases a lot. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?)
Hi, I think you will find Flex is equally well designed to work with both CFMX (which itself runs on J2EE) or any of the widely used Java/J2EE servers. Your choice at that tier should be based on other considerations. In general, if you are already using CFMX, I'd stay with it; if you are already using Java/J2EE I'd stay with that. If you are not familiar with Java/J2EE ColdFusion is a faster learning curve and a more RAD model for building apps and I would reccomend you check it out. Regards, David Macromedia From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tolulope OlonadeSent: Monday, June 06, 2005 3:10 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?) Can anyone please hit the bull’s eye for me on which server side platform Flex is best with? I know there no support for .NET for now. But what of ColdFusion and Java as most of our applications here tie into Databases a lot. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Flex best with which server side technology ? (CFM/Java/ASPX?)
Can anyone please hit the bull’s eye for me on which server side platform Flex is best with? I know there no support for .NET for now. But what of ColdFusion and Java as most of our applications here tie into Databases a lot. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
