[flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm2 Store Example ?
Hi Steven, Thanks for the reply. First, I would like to say that we am greatful for all of the great work that you have put into cairngorm to make our life simpler. The posting I made earlier was in a bit of frustration because I wasn't getting a reply (wasn't aware that the Adobe engineers were away on a conference). As for what we are trying to do: Two months before, we started a project on flex2 alpha, after 1 month into the project, we ran into flex2 databinding issues so we had to drop flex2 and do the project in flash and ARP. (At that time, I asked when cairngorm was coming out and you replied saying soon after the new years, we waited after the new years and was told that cairngorm could not continue until the databinding issued was resolved). Now that Flex2 and Cairngorm has come out and flex2 has has the databinding problem fixed, we decided to give Flex2 another try. We do have your excellent book, Developing Rich Clients with Macromedia Flex. However, because we jumped straight into flex2 instead of flex 1.5, we weren't able to fully see how the cairngorm store worked. Now that you mentioned Cairngorm2 is basically the same as Cairngorm 0.99 then to understand the Cairngorm store, we will have to install flex1.5 and cairngorm 0.99 and decipher the app. Based on our back and forth dance with flex2 alpha, Flash and now Flex2 beta, we would like to move fully foward with flex2 instead of backtracking to flex 1.5, deciphering and modifying for flex2. This is the reason why I asked when the Cairngorm store demo will be out for Flex2. I hope you understand our situation and not think we are just being ungrateful or abrasive. Cheers, Tim --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Steven Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim, The priority for Cairngorm 2 was to give you guys a build that you could begin to work with in your own examples. We achieved that the day after beta 1 was made available to you. The *concepts* have not changed between Cairngorm 0.99 and Cairngorm 2.0 - rather the implementation of the framework has changed to support ActionScript 3.0. All of the resource around Cairngorm 0.99 should help you in understanding how to be successful. Have you built anything with Cairngorm 0.99 yet, and followed those examples in detail ? That sounds like a great starting place for your success. Rest assured when Cairngorm 2.0 is final, we'll have all the detail you're looking for and more. There will be an increasing amount of support from us in the months ahead around helping customers, partners and developers be successful with Flex 2.0 and Cairngorm 2.0. However, the alpha build you have just now is exactly that - it's something we're making available early for those that are wishing to embrace it in the spirit that this requires. Once again, if you have any specific questions, I'm sure we'll be able to answer them for you. In the meantime, maybe you want to start by checking out Cairngorm 0.99 and Flex 1.5, if you're still trying to grasp the concepts. There is a lot of discussion of the Cairngorm concepts in Developing Rich Clients with Macromedia Flex (Macromedia Press), and there'll be a lot more information to follow. What kind of apps are you trying to migrate from 1.5 to 2.0, or what kind of apps are you trying to build ? Are you familiar with the J2EE patterns we work from, what's the problem you're trying to solve with Cairngorm ? Have you built some of your app without Cairngorm yet - so that you appreciate the pain we're trying to alleviate for you ? These are all important steps IMHO. Best, Steven -- Steven Webster Practice Director (Rich Internet Applications) Adobe Consulting Westpoint, 4 Redheughs Rigg, South Gyle, Edinburgh, EH12 9DQ, UK p: +44 (0) 131 338 6108 m: +44 (0) 7917 428 947 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sufibaba Sent: 07 February 2006 16:24 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Cairngorm2 Store Example ? Hi List, Does anyone know if or when Cairngorm 0.99 Store will be updated to Cairngorm 2. As I understand it, the changes from 0.99 to version 2 is quite substantial yet the only substantial best practice example is the Cairngorm store, which does not work for Flex2. Perhaps migrating the Cairngorm store should be on the priority because It is hard to know how to properly structure an application for the new improved cairngorm without a solid working example. The login example is good but doesn't show how Cairngorm as an architecture can handle large enterprise projects. Tim -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm2 Store Example ?
Tim, Just to be clear - cairngorm 0.99 and the accompanying flexstore will help you to understand the principles behind the architecture, and how it should be used in anger. That knowledge will translate directly to cairngorm 2.0 and Flex 2. Best wishes, Steven -- Steven Webster Practice Director (Rich Internet Applications) Adobe Consulting Westpoint, 4 Redheughs Rigg, South Gyle, Edinburgh, EH12 9DQ, UK p: +44 (0) 131 338 6108 m: +44 (0) 7917 428 947 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sufibaba Sent: 08 February 2006 09:46 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm2 Store Example ? Hi Steven, Thanks for the reply. First, I would like to say that we am greatful for all of the great work that you have put into cairngorm to make our life simpler. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm2 Store Example ?
Title: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm2 Store Example ? Steven, You might be able to tell me why it's happening with my Cairngorm apps. Most of my apps make Remote Object calls on Application Creation Complete event. The first call works fine but the next calls just result in the busy clock cursor for indefinite time with no results. The app starts to work normally only after I reload the app. I have no idea what's going on. This problem doesn't occur with non-cairngorm apps. Is there anything I'm doing wrong? Thanks Agha Mehdi IDT - eBusiness Program Manager -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Webster Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:33 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm2 Store Example ? Tim, Just to be clear - cairngorm 0.99 and the accompanying flexstore will help you to understand the principles behind the architecture, and how it should be used in anger. That knowledge will translate directly to cairngorm 2.0 and Flex 2. Best wishes, Steven -- Steven Webster Practice Director (Rich Internet Applications) Adobe Consulting Westpoint, 4 Redheughs Rigg, South Gyle, Edinburgh, EH12 9DQ, UK p: +44 (0) 131 338 6108 m: +44 (0) 7917 428 947 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sufibaba Sent: 08 February 2006 09:46 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm2 Store Example ? Hi Steven, Thanks for the reply. First, I would like to say that we am greatful for all of the great work that you have put into cairngorm to make our life simpler. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm2 Store Example ?
Steven, I agree with you and this is what we are doing. By the way, anger is a strong word, it is more like, major frustration. All the best, Tim --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Steven Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim, Just to be clear - cairngorm 0.99 and the accompanying flexstore will help you to understand the principles behind the architecture, and how it should be used in anger. That knowledge will translate directly to cairngorm 2.0 and Flex 2. Best wishes, Steven -- Steven Webster Practice Director (Rich Internet Applications) Adobe Consulting Westpoint, 4 Redheughs Rigg, South Gyle, Edinburgh, EH12 9DQ, UK p: +44 (0) 131 338 6108 m: +44 (0) 7917 428 947 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sufibaba Sent: 08 February 2006 09:46 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm2 Store Example ? Hi Steven, Thanks for the reply. First, I would like to say that we am greatful for all of the great work that you have put into cairngorm to make our life simpler. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm2 Store Example ?
Colloquialism problem ... to use in anger is to use in real-life application. :) Steven -- Steven Webster Practice Director (Rich Internet Applications) Adobe Consulting Westpoint, 4 Redheughs Rigg, South Gyle, Edinburgh, EH12 9DQ, UK p: +44 (0) 131 338 6108 m: +44 (0) 7917 428 947 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sufibaba Sent: 08 February 2006 11:53 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm2 Store Example ? Steven, I agree with you and this is what we are doing. By the way, anger is a strong word, it is more like, major frustration. All the best, Tim --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Steven Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim, Just to be clear - cairngorm 0.99 and the accompanying flexstore will help you to understand the principles behind the architecture, and how it should be used in anger. That knowledge will translate directly to cairngorm 2.0 and Flex 2. Best wishes, Steven -- Steven Webster Practice Director (Rich Internet Applications) Adobe Consulting Westpoint, 4 Redheughs Rigg, South Gyle, Edinburgh, EH12 9DQ, UK p: +44 (0) 131 338 6108 m: +44 (0) 7917 428 947 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sufibaba Sent: 08 February 2006 09:46 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm2 Store Example ? Hi Steven, Thanks for the reply. First, I would like to say that we am greatful for all of the great work that you have put into cairngorm to make our life simpler. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm2 Store Example ?
Not a problem, Understood :) Tim --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Steven Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Colloquialism problem ... to use in anger is to use in real-life application. :) Steven -- Steven Webster Practice Director (Rich Internet Applications) Adobe Consulting Westpoint, 4 Redheughs Rigg, South Gyle, Edinburgh, EH12 9DQ, UK p: +44 (0) 131 338 6108 m: +44 (0) 7917 428 947 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sufibaba Sent: 08 February 2006 11:53 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm2 Store Example ? Steven, I agree with you and this is what we are doing. By the way, anger is a strong word, it is more like, major frustration. All the best, Tim --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Steven Webster swebster@ wrote: Tim, Just to be clear - cairngorm 0.99 and the accompanying flexstore will help you to understand the principles behind the architecture, and how it should be used in anger. That knowledge will translate directly to cairngorm 2.0 and Flex 2. Best wishes, Steven -- Steven Webster Practice Director (Rich Internet Applications) Adobe Consulting Westpoint, 4 Redheughs Rigg, South Gyle, Edinburgh, EH12 9DQ, UK p: +44 (0) 131 338 6108 m: +44 (0) 7917 428 947 swebster@ -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sufibaba Sent: 08 February 2006 09:46 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm2 Store Example ? Hi Steven, Thanks for the reply. First, I would like to say that we am greatful for all of the great work that you have put into cairngorm to make our life simpler. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
