[flexcoders] Re: Flex Windows Not Loading Bug
And, of course, when I get back on-line and read this, it has expired. Oh well, if you don't find someone, fire me off an email. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "edlueze" wrote: > > Hi Steve - thanks for the tips! > > Sorry for not getting back to you sooner (just got back online). The > Rent-a-coder project should still be active - the link is: > > http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/BidRequests/ShowBidRequest.asp?lngBidRequestId=1153997 > > All the best, > > Ted. > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "valdhor" wrote: > > > > Generally what I do is create separate sub classes (Of MDIWindow) for each > > of the windows I need. I try to treat each window as a completely self > > contained "module". Each window is managed by MDIManager. Of course, you > > have to treat events differently as they will be parented by systemManager. > > > > Each window will then contain one or more components (Either Flex or > > custom). Usually the main part of the window will contain a datagrid then > > the controlbar will contain next/previous links and an export data link. I > > have to include code to make these links invisible if the user minimizes > > the window otherwise they clutter the display. > > > > If i were you, I would create custom components containing the display > > objects you need and add them to a custom MDIWindow class. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > PS. I was going to bid on your request on rentacoder but couldn't find it. > > Have you pulled it? > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "edlueze" wrote: > > > > > > Hi Steve / Everybody: > > > > > > The FlexMDI library has invigorated my enthusiasm to re-think the layout > > > of the application - it was getting obvious that the application was > > > getting far too cluttered anyway. It sounds like you've developed some > > > best practices and I'm eager to hear about them. > > > > > > The initial architecture called for the following types of windows (with > > > a small "w"). Note that these names defined in the architecture do not > > > match the Flex names as they pre-date the decision to even use Flex: > > > > > > - "Canvas" (large spanning windows - it would be great if the user could > > > toggle these take up the entire screen) > > > - "Windows" (wide-but-short windows designed to take the entire width of > > > the screen - they do not always need to be showing) > > > - "Property Window" (type of Window containing the properties of whatever > > > is selected in the Canvas) > > > - "Tabs" within the Property Window > > > - "Panels" (small floating windows with many purposes - it would be nice > > > to also be able to group and anchor these) > > > - "Dialog Boxes" (modal pop-ups) > > > - "Wizards" (fancy modal pop-ups) > > > > > > Do you have any ideas on how I can take this framework and adapt it to > > > FlexMDI or whatever else you like using? > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > Ted. > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "valdhor" wrote: > > > > > > > > It looks as though it is not a true window. > > > > > > > > I don't think I would have done it the way you have (But who am I to > > > > tell you how to do something ;-). > > > > > > > > Does it still happen with only one accordion item? > > > > > > > > Maybe it's a deferred instantiation problem in the tab navigator. What > > > > happens if you set all tabs to instantiate? > > > > > > > > I really don't think this is something we are going to be able to > > > > figure out in a forum and posting code is obviously out of the > > > > question. If I can free up some time I may respond to your ad. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "edlueze" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Steve - everybody: > > > > > > > > > > The FlexMDI definitely looks interesting! And I might take you up on > > > > > your offer to pay you to take a look at our bug. > > > > > > > > > > For everybody's benefit, I've put together a simple PowerPoint giving > > > > > an example of the problem. You can view the PPT here: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.onegen.com/download/FlexWindowNotLoadingBug001.ppt > > > > > > > > > > Thanks really for all your time and help - this one's got us baffled! > > > > > > > > > > Ted. > > > > > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "valdhor" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You may like to look at FlexMDI (Part of FlexLib) for your > > > > > > windowing requirements. I use an older version extensively and have > > > > > > not seen anything like what you are experiencing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > PS. If you want to pay me to look at it I'll gladly do so ;-} > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "edlueze" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please help me fix a windowing integration bug in our Adobe Flex > > > > > > > a
[flexcoders] Re: Flex Windows Not Loading Bug
Hi Steve - thanks for the tips! Sorry for not getting back to you sooner (just got back online). The Rent-a-coder project should still be active - the link is: http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/BidRequests/ShowBidRequest.asp?lngBidRequestId=1153997 All the best, Ted. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "valdhor" wrote: > > Generally what I do is create separate sub classes (Of MDIWindow) for each of > the windows I need. I try to treat each window as a completely self contained > "module". Each window is managed by MDIManager. Of course, you have to treat > events differently as they will be parented by systemManager. > > Each window will then contain one or more components (Either Flex or custom). > Usually the main part of the window will contain a datagrid then the > controlbar will contain next/previous links and an export data link. I have > to include code to make these links invisible if the user minimizes the > window otherwise they clutter the display. > > If i were you, I would create custom components containing the display > objects you need and add them to a custom MDIWindow class. > > > Best Regards > > > > Steve > > PS. I was going to bid on your request on rentacoder but couldn't find it. > Have you pulled it? > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "edlueze" wrote: > > > > Hi Steve / Everybody: > > > > The FlexMDI library has invigorated my enthusiasm to re-think the layout of > > the application - it was getting obvious that the application was getting > > far too cluttered anyway. It sounds like you've developed some best > > practices and I'm eager to hear about them. > > > > The initial architecture called for the following types of windows (with a > > small "w"). Note that these names defined in the architecture do not match > > the Flex names as they pre-date the decision to even use Flex: > > > > - "Canvas" (large spanning windows - it would be great if the user could > > toggle these take up the entire screen) > > - "Windows" (wide-but-short windows designed to take the entire width of > > the screen - they do not always need to be showing) > > - "Property Window" (type of Window containing the properties of whatever > > is selected in the Canvas) > > - "Tabs" within the Property Window > > - "Panels" (small floating windows with many purposes - it would be nice to > > also be able to group and anchor these) > > - "Dialog Boxes" (modal pop-ups) > > - "Wizards" (fancy modal pop-ups) > > > > Do you have any ideas on how I can take this framework and adapt it to > > FlexMDI or whatever else you like using? > > > > All the best, > > > > Ted. > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "valdhor" wrote: > > > > > > It looks as though it is not a true window. > > > > > > I don't think I would have done it the way you have (But who am I to tell > > > you how to do something ;-). > > > > > > Does it still happen with only one accordion item? > > > > > > Maybe it's a deferred instantiation problem in the tab navigator. What > > > happens if you set all tabs to instantiate? > > > > > > I really don't think this is something we are going to be able to figure > > > out in a forum and posting code is obviously out of the question. If I > > > can free up some time I may respond to your ad. > > > > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "edlueze" wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Steve - everybody: > > > > > > > > The FlexMDI definitely looks interesting! And I might take you up on > > > > your offer to pay you to take a look at our bug. > > > > > > > > For everybody's benefit, I've put together a simple PowerPoint giving > > > > an example of the problem. You can view the PPT here: > > > > > > > > http://www.onegen.com/download/FlexWindowNotLoadingBug001.ppt > > > > > > > > Thanks really for all your time and help - this one's got us baffled! > > > > > > > > Ted. > > > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "valdhor" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You may like to look at FlexMDI (Part of FlexLib) for your windowing > > > > > requirements. I use an older version extensively and have not seen > > > > > anything like what you are experiencing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > PS. If you want to pay me to look at it I'll gladly do so ;-} > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "edlueze" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Please help me fix a windowing integration bug in our Adobe Flex > > > > > > application. I'd love some free advice, but we really need the > > > > > > problem solved so we've also posted the question on rent-a-coder. > > > > > > > > > > > > All of our Flex windows (Application/Canvas/Panel/TitleWindow/etc) > > > > > > work fine individually when running in a browser (Firefox and > > > > > > Internet Explorer). Now we are trying to integrate all of the > > > > > > Windows together (less than 100 in al
[flexcoders] Re: Flex Windows Not Loading Bug
Generally what I do is create separate sub classes (Of MDIWindow) for each of the windows I need. I try to treat each window as a completely self contained "module". Each window is managed by MDIManager. Of course, you have to treat events differently as they will be parented by systemManager. Each window will then contain one or more components (Either Flex or custom). Usually the main part of the window will contain a datagrid then the controlbar will contain next/previous links and an export data link. I have to include code to make these links invisible if the user minimizes the window otherwise they clutter the display. If i were you, I would create custom components containing the display objects you need and add them to a custom MDIWindow class. Best Regards Steve PS. I was going to bid on your request on rentacoder but couldn't find it. Have you pulled it? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "edlueze" wrote: > > Hi Steve / Everybody: > > The FlexMDI library has invigorated my enthusiasm to re-think the layout of > the application - it was getting obvious that the application was getting far > too cluttered anyway. It sounds like you've developed some best practices and > I'm eager to hear about them. > > The initial architecture called for the following types of windows (with a > small "w"). Note that these names defined in the architecture do not match > the Flex names as they pre-date the decision to even use Flex: > > - "Canvas" (large spanning windows - it would be great if the user could > toggle these take up the entire screen) > - "Windows" (wide-but-short windows designed to take the entire width of the > screen - they do not always need to be showing) > - "Property Window" (type of Window containing the properties of whatever is > selected in the Canvas) > - "Tabs" within the Property Window > - "Panels" (small floating windows with many purposes - it would be nice to > also be able to group and anchor these) > - "Dialog Boxes" (modal pop-ups) > - "Wizards" (fancy modal pop-ups) > > Do you have any ideas on how I can take this framework and adapt it to > FlexMDI or whatever else you like using? > > All the best, > > Ted. > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "valdhor" wrote: > > > > It looks as though it is not a true window. > > > > I don't think I would have done it the way you have (But who am I to tell > > you how to do something ;-). > > > > Does it still happen with only one accordion item? > > > > Maybe it's a deferred instantiation problem in the tab navigator. What > > happens if you set all tabs to instantiate? > > > > I really don't think this is something we are going to be able to figure > > out in a forum and posting code is obviously out of the question. If I can > > free up some time I may respond to your ad. > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "edlueze" wrote: > > > > > > Hi Steve - everybody: > > > > > > The FlexMDI definitely looks interesting! And I might take you up on your > > > offer to pay you to take a look at our bug. > > > > > > For everybody's benefit, I've put together a simple PowerPoint giving an > > > example of the problem. You can view the PPT here: > > > > > > http://www.onegen.com/download/FlexWindowNotLoadingBug001.ppt > > > > > > Thanks really for all your time and help - this one's got us baffled! > > > > > > Ted. > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "valdhor" wrote: > > > > > > > > You may like to look at FlexMDI (Part of FlexLib) for your windowing > > > > requirements. I use an older version extensively and have not seen > > > > anything like what you are experiencing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > PS. If you want to pay me to look at it I'll gladly do so ;-} > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "edlueze" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Please help me fix a windowing integration bug in our Adobe Flex > > > > > application. I'd love some free advice, but we really need the > > > > > problem solved so we've also posted the question on rent-a-coder. > > > > > > > > > > All of our Flex windows (Application/Canvas/Panel/TitleWindow/etc) > > > > > work fine individually when running in a browser (Firefox and > > > > > Internet Explorer). Now we are trying to integrate all of the Windows > > > > > together (less than 100 in all) and we are observing some pretty > > > > > bizarre behavior - sometimes a window will load and other times the > > > > > same window will not load. But the problem is not intermittent - it > > > > > happens very often and we can usually force a window failure on > > > > > demand. > > > > > > > > > > When the window does not load we observe the CPU usage in Task > > > > > Manager hitting the maximum, and we believe that the Flex Application > > > > > has fallen into an endless race condition in which it is constantly > > > > > resizing the components wi
[flexcoders] Re: Flex Windows Not Loading Bug
Hi Steve / Everybody: The FlexMDI library has invigorated my enthusiasm to re-think the layout of the application - it was getting obvious that the application was getting far too cluttered anyway. It sounds like you've developed some best practices and I'm eager to hear about them. The initial architecture called for the following types of windows (with a small "w"). Note that these names defined in the architecture do not match the Flex names as they pre-date the decision to even use Flex: - "Canvas" (large spanning windows - it would be great if the user could toggle these take up the entire screen) - "Windows" (wide-but-short windows designed to take the entire width of the screen - they do not always need to be showing) - "Property Window" (type of Window containing the properties of whatever is selected in the Canvas) - "Tabs" within the Property Window - "Panels" (small floating windows with many purposes - it would be nice to also be able to group and anchor these) - "Dialog Boxes" (modal pop-ups) - "Wizards" (fancy modal pop-ups) Do you have any ideas on how I can take this framework and adapt it to FlexMDI or whatever else you like using? All the best, Ted. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "valdhor" wrote: > > It looks as though it is not a true window. > > I don't think I would have done it the way you have (But who am I to tell you > how to do something ;-). > > Does it still happen with only one accordion item? > > Maybe it's a deferred instantiation problem in the tab navigator. What > happens if you set all tabs to instantiate? > > I really don't think this is something we are going to be able to figure out > in a forum and posting code is obviously out of the question. If I can free > up some time I may respond to your ad. > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "edlueze" wrote: > > > > Hi Steve - everybody: > > > > The FlexMDI definitely looks interesting! And I might take you up on your > > offer to pay you to take a look at our bug. > > > > For everybody's benefit, I've put together a simple PowerPoint giving an > > example of the problem. You can view the PPT here: > > > > http://www.onegen.com/download/FlexWindowNotLoadingBug001.ppt > > > > Thanks really for all your time and help - this one's got us baffled! > > > > Ted. > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "valdhor" wrote: > > > > > > You may like to look at FlexMDI (Part of FlexLib) for your windowing > > > requirements. I use an older version extensively and have not seen > > > anything like what you are experiencing. > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > PS. If you want to pay me to look at it I'll gladly do so ;-} > > > > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "edlueze" wrote: > > > > > > > > Please help me fix a windowing integration bug in our Adobe Flex > > > > application. I'd love some free advice, but we really need the problem > > > > solved so we've also posted the question on rent-a-coder. > > > > > > > > All of our Flex windows (Application/Canvas/Panel/TitleWindow/etc) work > > > > fine individually when running in a browser (Firefox and Internet > > > > Explorer). Now we are trying to integrate all of the Windows together > > > > (less than 100 in all) and we are observing some pretty bizarre > > > > behavior - sometimes a window will load and other times the same window > > > > will not load. But the problem is not intermittent - it happens very > > > > often and we can usually force a window failure on demand. > > > > > > > > When the window does not load we observe the CPU usage in Task Manager > > > > hitting the maximum, and we believe that the Flex Application has > > > > fallen into an endless race condition in which it is constantly > > > > resizing the components within the window (we randomly pause the > > > > application and usually find the stack doing something like this). When > > > > this happens the window's creationComplete event doesn't trigger and we > > > > cannot insert a breakpoint. > > > > > > > > We make heavy use of constraintRows and constraintColumns and we are > > > > suspicious of them. We use a lot of Accordion's as well as the custom > > > > HAccordion from Flexlib, but we've had trouble positively identifying > > > > them as the culprit. Each window can get pretty buried in a deep > > > > hierarchy of windows, but it is not always the deepest windows that > > > > will fail to load. > > > > > > > > We've also implemented a suspicious custom component early on to handle > > > > system-wide ToolTips. It is old code and does some funky things, but > > > > when we commented it out the behavior didn't dramatically improve. > > > > > > > > Our testing has been limited to the Debugger Flash Player, but we've > > > > tried both debug and release versions of the application. > > > > > > > > I've combed Flexcoders and I've not come across anything like it. I'd > > > > lov
[flexcoders] Re: Flex Windows Not Loading Bug
It looks as though it is not a true window. I don't think I would have done it the way you have (But who am I to tell you how to do something ;-). Does it still happen with only one accordion item? Maybe it's a deferred instantiation problem in the tab navigator. What happens if you set all tabs to instantiate? I really don't think this is something we are going to be able to figure out in a forum and posting code is obviously out of the question. If I can free up some time I may respond to your ad. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "edlueze" wrote: > > Hi Steve - everybody: > > The FlexMDI definitely looks interesting! And I might take you up on your > offer to pay you to take a look at our bug. > > For everybody's benefit, I've put together a simple PowerPoint giving an > example of the problem. You can view the PPT here: > > http://www.onegen.com/download/FlexWindowNotLoadingBug001.ppt > > Thanks really for all your time and help - this one's got us baffled! > > Ted. > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "valdhor" wrote: > > > > You may like to look at FlexMDI (Part of FlexLib) for your windowing > > requirements. I use an older version extensively and have not seen anything > > like what you are experiencing. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > PS. If you want to pay me to look at it I'll gladly do so ;-} > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "edlueze" wrote: > > > > > > Please help me fix a windowing integration bug in our Adobe Flex > > > application. I'd love some free advice, but we really need the problem > > > solved so we've also posted the question on rent-a-coder. > > > > > > All of our Flex windows (Application/Canvas/Panel/TitleWindow/etc) work > > > fine individually when running in a browser (Firefox and Internet > > > Explorer). Now we are trying to integrate all of the Windows together > > > (less than 100 in all) and we are observing some pretty bizarre behavior > > > - sometimes a window will load and other times the same window will not > > > load. But the problem is not intermittent - it happens very often and we > > > can usually force a window failure on demand. > > > > > > When the window does not load we observe the CPU usage in Task Manager > > > hitting the maximum, and we believe that the Flex Application has fallen > > > into an endless race condition in which it is constantly resizing the > > > components within the window (we randomly pause the application and > > > usually find the stack doing something like this). When this happens the > > > window's creationComplete event doesn't trigger and we cannot insert a > > > breakpoint. > > > > > > We make heavy use of constraintRows and constraintColumns and we are > > > suspicious of them. We use a lot of Accordion's as well as the custom > > > HAccordion from Flexlib, but we've had trouble positively identifying > > > them as the culprit. Each window can get pretty buried in a deep > > > hierarchy of windows, but it is not always the deepest windows that will > > > fail to load. > > > > > > We've also implemented a suspicious custom component early on to handle > > > system-wide ToolTips. It is old code and does some funky things, but when > > > we commented it out the behavior didn't dramatically improve. > > > > > > Our testing has been limited to the Debugger Flash Player, but we've > > > tried both debug and release versions of the application. > > > > > > I've combed Flexcoders and I've not come across anything like it. I'd > > > love to hear your ideas?! > > > > > >
[flexcoders] Re: Flex Windows Not Loading Bug
Hi Steve - everybody: The FlexMDI definitely looks interesting! And I might take you up on your offer to pay you to take a look at our bug. For everybody's benefit, I've put together a simple PowerPoint giving an example of the problem. You can view the PPT here: http://www.onegen.com/download/FlexWindowNotLoadingBug001.ppt Thanks really for all your time and help - this one's got us baffled! Ted. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "valdhor" wrote: > > You may like to look at FlexMDI (Part of FlexLib) for your windowing > requirements. I use an older version extensively and have not seen anything > like what you are experiencing. > > > Best Regards > > > > Steve > > PS. If you want to pay me to look at it I'll gladly do so ;-} > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "edlueze" wrote: > > > > Please help me fix a windowing integration bug in our Adobe Flex > > application. I'd love some free advice, but we really need the problem > > solved so we've also posted the question on rent-a-coder. > > > > All of our Flex windows (Application/Canvas/Panel/TitleWindow/etc) work > > fine individually when running in a browser (Firefox and Internet > > Explorer). Now we are trying to integrate all of the Windows together (less > > than 100 in all) and we are observing some pretty bizarre behavior - > > sometimes a window will load and other times the same window will not load. > > But the problem is not intermittent - it happens very often and we can > > usually force a window failure on demand. > > > > When the window does not load we observe the CPU usage in Task Manager > > hitting the maximum, and we believe that the Flex Application has fallen > > into an endless race condition in which it is constantly resizing the > > components within the window (we randomly pause the application and usually > > find the stack doing something like this). When this happens the window's > > creationComplete event doesn't trigger and we cannot insert a breakpoint. > > > > We make heavy use of constraintRows and constraintColumns and we are > > suspicious of them. We use a lot of Accordion's as well as the custom > > HAccordion from Flexlib, but we've had trouble positively identifying them > > as the culprit. Each window can get pretty buried in a deep hierarchy of > > windows, but it is not always the deepest windows that will fail to load. > > > > We've also implemented a suspicious custom component early on to handle > > system-wide ToolTips. It is old code and does some funky things, but when > > we commented it out the behavior didn't dramatically improve. > > > > Our testing has been limited to the Debugger Flash Player, but we've tried > > both debug and release versions of the application. > > > > I've combed Flexcoders and I've not come across anything like it. I'd love > > to hear your ideas?! > > >
[flexcoders] Re: Flex Windows Not Loading Bug
You may like to look at FlexMDI (Part of FlexLib) for your windowing requirements. I use an older version extensively and have not seen anything like what you are experiencing. Best Regards Steve PS. If you want to pay me to look at it I'll gladly do so ;-} --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "edlueze" wrote: > > Please help me fix a windowing integration bug in our Adobe Flex application. > I'd love some free advice, but we really need the problem solved so we've > also posted the question on rent-a-coder. > > All of our Flex windows (Application/Canvas/Panel/TitleWindow/etc) work fine > individually when running in a browser (Firefox and Internet Explorer). Now > we are trying to integrate all of the Windows together (less than 100 in all) > and we are observing some pretty bizarre behavior - sometimes a window will > load and other times the same window will not load. But the problem is not > intermittent - it happens very often and we can usually force a window > failure on demand. > > When the window does not load we observe the CPU usage in Task Manager > hitting the maximum, and we believe that the Flex Application has fallen into > an endless race condition in which it is constantly resizing the components > within the window (we randomly pause the application and usually find the > stack doing something like this). When this happens the window's > creationComplete event doesn't trigger and we cannot insert a breakpoint. > > We make heavy use of constraintRows and constraintColumns and we are > suspicious of them. We use a lot of Accordion's as well as the custom > HAccordion from Flexlib, but we've had trouble positively identifying them as > the culprit. Each window can get pretty buried in a deep hierarchy of > windows, but it is not always the deepest windows that will fail to load. > > We've also implemented a suspicious custom component early on to handle > system-wide ToolTips. It is old code and does some funky things, but when we > commented it out the behavior didn't dramatically improve. > > Our testing has been limited to the Debugger Flash Player, but we've tried > both debug and release versions of the application. > > I've combed Flexcoders and I've not come across anything like it. I'd love to > hear your ideas?! >
