[flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
I would be interested in such a list. I think a lot of developers will be interested in both framework and application... sometimes we need to extend or make a new component to meet the requirements of our applications for example. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Schmalle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am curious, > > Does anybody see the need for a list that deals with framework > development/component development. > > As Flex matures there is definatly a split now between application > developers and framework developers. I have posted 4 things in the last 2 > days that havn't been answered(This means nothing to me, just pointing > something out), they have dealt with the framework side of programming. > > Sometimes I don't post stuff on this list becasue it seems to technical on > the programming/framework side. I know this list is intended for > applications. Is there enough framework developers out there that would like > to share the experiences enough to warrent some other dev list? > > Peace, Mike > > -- > What goes up, does come down. > -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
I agree with you. It might be beneficial to have a separate list for component/framework related threads. It's probably cumbersome to weed through the development questions and answers some times. I personally joined this list because I was led here by a link at Adobe and the list description was applicable to my Flex usage. The flexcoders mailing list is for enterprise software developers, developing Rich Internet Applications using Macromedia Flex. The list will discuss methods and practices for Flex RIA development, including MXML and ActionScript 2.0, as well as best-practices including testing, design patterns, J2EE and .NET integration, etc. However, imho this is a two-way street. Application developers learn and benefit from component/framework threads. And conversely, some component/framework developers appreciate the feedback from developers that are using Flex to create real enterprise solutions. I am slowly but surely digging deeper into the Flex framework and its advanced concepts. So for me, it's good to have both sides in the same place. Just my thoughts,Tim Hoff --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "sleekdigital" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> I would be interested in such a list. I think a lot of developers > will be interested in both framework and application... sometimes we > need to extend or make a new component to meet the requirements of > our applications for example.> > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Schmalle" > teoti.graphix@ wrote:> >> > I am curious,> > > > Does anybody see the need for a list that deals with framework> > development/component development.> > > > As Flex matures there is definatly a split now between application> > developers and framework developers. I have posted 4 things in the > last 2> > days that havn't been answered(This means nothing to me, just > pointing> > something out), they have dealt with the framework side of > programming.> > > > Sometimes I don't post stuff on this list becasue it seems to > technical on> > the programming/framework side. I know this list is intended for> > applications. Is there enough framework developers out there that > would like> > to share the experiences enough to warrent some other dev list?> > > > Peace, Mike> > > > -- > > What goes up, does come down.> >> -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
whats wrong with using the official Adobe forums? :) the Adobe Labs structure is quite cool (AS3, Flex Framework, General etc), maybe need one for Flex Components too?) --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Schmalle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Steven, > > > if you want to create your own list for Flex specific topics, then great > idea, and best of luck ! > > This is the problem I am struggling to explain. This wasn't entirely 'my' > idea. There were many developers that expressed some interest in this. > > Since I am talking to you, I am sorry for posting this on flexcoders. We > wouldn't be having this conversation that feels like a do while loop gone > wild if I hadn't posted it. > > As far as my questions unanswered; I am sure engineers at Adobe are busy, > this seems obvious. > > There still hasn't been any form of communication created better than face > to face. > > Just walking down the trail enjoying the scenery and ahh, wasp nest, run! > > Thanks for you time Steven, > > Mike > > On 5/29/06, Steven Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Michael, > > > > You've misunderstood the intent of my post; if you want to create your own > > list for Flex specific topics, then great idea, and best of luck ! > > > > My post was meant simply to respond to a recurring thread since this list > > first started, as to whether we should have one list or multiple lists ... > > and our collective feeling is that until such point as threads on flexcoders > > become irrelevance for a majority of the membership, there's no immediate > > benefit from breaking our current flexcoders list into separate lists. > > Sheer volume of messages isn't really the issue - whether we receive 100 > > messages a day from one list, or 50 messages a day from 2 lists, doesn't > > make the parsing and responding to the lists any easier or any more > > difficult. > > > > I'm not sure what questions you have been asking that haven't been > > answered, but there is a deep experience of Flex 1.x and Flex 2 component > > development on this mailing list, and I'm sure the discussion on these > > topics is of interest and relevance to those that are subscribed generally > > to flexcoders. If your questions haven't been answered, I'd expect it's > > more likely because individuals were busy, rather than uninterested or > > unable. > > > > Anyway - I just want people to be clear that we're not carving up > > Flexcoders into separate lists, that we expect the entire flexcoders > > community to choose from and subscribe to. For the foreseeable future, we > > expect Flexcoders to remain a single mailing list, and we'll continue to > > moderate, monitor and support it as before. > > > > If in the meantime, community members elect to create, moderate and > > support topic-specific lists as you have done - then all the better ! Flex > > Component development is something I anticipate really taking off with the > > release of Flex 2. > > > > Best wishes and best of luck with your list, > > > > Steven > > > > *Sent:* 29 May 2006 16:35 > > *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: > > Component developers - Framework Devlopment > > > > Steven, > > > > I have a question; > > > > Isn't a move like this (creating a framework/component) list, like > > refactoring in OOP? Essentially, this thought came from intuition about 2 > > months ago when my 'development problems' were not being met. > > > > I see a way to grab a 'niche' of developers like myself and let us play > > off of our own intelligence. This means developers looking at questions of a > > list completly related to components and the framework see only questions > > about framework programming. > > > > I am not an application developer and do not want to be. So, comming from > > a component developer's perspective, I see this as completly necessary and > > for the most part required. > > > > If I am nieve, I will learn. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike > > > > On 5/29/06, Bjorn Schultheiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I guess they have been created now. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think their success depending on the Adobe engineers and consultants > > > input
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
I've actually quietly made some new Flex mailing lists; I've let it simmer while waiting for Flex 2 to become final. I don't think too granular of lists works well as there's too much overlap in a lot of things. But I do see one problem arising with one super list like this - not only are the spectrum of topics vast, now you got to content with two major versions of the language in use (1.5 and 2), and so you'll have to do a lot prefacing of context in every single message. So... to alleviate that, I created the following: Flex 2- General :: General discussion regarding anything Flex 2. http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-General Flex 2- Coldfusion :: Topics regarding Flex to CF integration http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-CF Flex Builder 2 :: Discussion regarding the IDE, debugging, design, etc http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-Builder Flex Jobs :: Recruiters welcome! http://groups.google.com/group/FlexJobs Tim Hoff wrote: I agree with you. It might be beneficial to have a separate list for component/framework related threads. It's probably cumbersome to weed through the development questions and answers some times. I personally joined this list because I was led here by a link at Adobe and the list description was applicable to my Flex usage. The flexcoders mailing list is for enterprise software developers, developing Rich Internet Applications using Macromedia Flex. The list will discuss methods and practices for Flex RIA development, including MXML and ActionScript 2.0, as well as best-practices including testing, design patterns, J2EE and .NET integration, etc. However, imho this is a two-way street. Application developers learn and benefit from component/framework threads. And conversely, some component/framework developers appreciate the feedback from developers that are using Flex to create real enterprise solutions. I am slowly but surely digging deeper into the Flex framework and its advanced concepts. So for me, it's good to have both sides in the same place. Just my thoughts, Tim Hoff -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
In the Flash world there is: FlashCoders - questions related to coding in flash - usually you've looked everywhere else first FlashNewbies - questions for newbies http://www.figleaf.com/Community/listserv.cfm ExtendFlash - questions related to JSFL, XML2UI, Commands, Behaviours, Timeline Effects and Tools http://www.flashguru.co.uk/extending-flash-mailing-list/ These lists served there purpose great. I could get nearly any question answered from these three lists except when it came to component development. There was nothing for that and it was really missed. I wouldn't mind if we do the same thing for Flex and add a component/framework development list to the list where we can ask about list components (eh hehe - couldn't resist): FlexCoders - questions related to coding in flash - usually you've looked everywhere else first Flex2Coders - i really want to add a flex 2 list but only if the adobe people would join FlexNewbies - questions for flex newbies FlexExtension - questions related to extending the flex ide, flex components or flex framework Maybe something like that??? Judah Tariq Ahmed wrote: I've actually quietly made some new Flex mailing lists; I've let it simmer while waiting for Flex 2 to become final. I don't think too granular of lists works well as there's too much overlap in a lot of things. But I do see one problem arising with one super list like this - not only are the spectrum of topics vast, now you got to content with two major versions of the language in use (1.5 and 2), and so you'll have to do a lot prefacing of context in every single message. So... to alleviate that, I created the following: Flex 2- General :: General discussion regarding anything Flex 2. http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-General Flex 2- Coldfusion :: Topics regarding Flex to CF integration http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-CF Flex Builder 2 :: Discussion regarding the IDE, debugging, design, etc http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-Builder Flex Jobs :: Recruiters welcome! http://groups.google.com/group/FlexJobs Tim Hoff wrote: I agree with you. It might be beneficial to have a separate list for component/framework related threads. It's probably cumbersome to weed through the development questions and answers some times. I personally joined this list because I was led here by a link at Adobe and the list description was applicable to my Flex usage. The flexcoders mailing list is for enterprise software developers, developing Rich Internet Applications using Macromedia Flex. The list will discuss methods and practices for Flex RIA development, including MXML and ActionScript 2.0, as well as best-practices including testing, design patterns, J2EE and .NET integration, etc. However, imho this is a two-way street. Application developers learn and benefit from component/framework threads. And conversely, some component/framework developers appreciate the feedback from developers that are using Flex to create real enterprise solutions. I am slowly but surely digging deeper into the Flex framework and its advanced concepts. So for me, it's good to have both sides in the same place. Just my thoughts, Tim Hoff -- "Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any one thing." "You can have anything you want - if you want it badly enough. You can be anything you want to be, do anything you set out to accomplish if you hold to that desire with singleness of purpose." - Abraham Lincoln -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
Hello all, The Flex Frame Workers ... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexframeworkers/ To those who replied to this email and others that might have found it interesting, I bit the bullet. Since flexcoders is on yahoogroups, I figured that it was just as easy to do it here also. There is a new group for component and framework questions that will be lead by me(Michael Schmalle, TeotiGraphix) and others in the future. Anybody that seriously wants to 'dive' into the framework, this is the place to do it. There are a ton of questions I wouldn't ask on flexcoders but, on flexframeworkers, will be asked and answered. Take a look at my bolg and you will see why it probably is a good idea to sign up for this list, even if you are not sure 'yet' if you are a flex framewroker ;-) Anyway, Mike will be on this list and this is what I do for a living, lets help each other and turn this into another thriving ecosystem for Flex2 proliferation! Peace, MikeOn 5/19/06, judah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the Flash world there is: FlashCoders - questions related to coding in flash - usually you've looked everywhere else first FlashNewbies - questions for newbies http://www.figleaf.com/Community/listserv.cfm ExtendFlash - questions related to JSFL, XML2UI, Commands, Behaviours, Timeline Effects and Tools http://www.flashguru.co.uk/extending-flash-mailing-list/ These lists served there purpose great. I could get nearly any question answered from these three lists except when it came to component development. There was nothing for that and it was really missed. I wouldn't mind if we do the same thing for Flex and add a component/framework development list to the list where we can ask about list components (eh hehe - couldn't resist): FlexCoders - questions related to coding in flash - usually you've looked everywhere else first Flex2Coders - i really want to add a flex 2 list but only if the adobe people would join FlexNewbies - questions for flex newbies FlexExtension - questions related to extending the flex ide, flex components or flex framework Maybe something like that??? Judah Tariq Ahmed wrote: I've actually quietly made some new Flex mailing lists; I've let it simmer while waiting for Flex 2 to become final. I don't think too granular of lists works well as there's too much overlap in a lot of things. But I do see one problem arising with one super list like this - not only are the spectrum of topics vast, now you got to content with two major versions of the language in use (1.5 and 2), and so you'll have to do a lot prefacing of context in every single message. So... to alleviate that, I created the following: Flex 2- General :: General discussion regarding anything Flex 2. http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-General Flex 2- Coldfusion :: Topics regarding Flex to CF integration http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-CF Flex Builder 2 :: Discussion regarding the IDE, debugging, design, etc http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-Builder Flex Jobs :: Recruiters welcome! http://groups.google.com/group/FlexJobs Tim Hoff wrote: I agree with you. It might be beneficial to have a separate list for component/framework related threads. It's probably cumbersome to weed through the development questions and answers some times. I personally joined this list because I was led here by a link at Adobe and the list description was applicable to my Flex usage. The flexcoders mailing list is for enterprise software developers, developing Rich Internet Applications using Macromedia Flex. The list will discuss methods and practices for Flex RIA development, including MXML and ActionScript 2.0, as well as best-practices including testing, design patterns, J2EE and .NET integration, etc. However, imho this is a two-way street. Application developers learn and benefit from component/framework threads. And conversely, some component/framework developers appreciate the feedback from developers that are using Flex to create real enterprise solutions. I am slowly but surely digging deeper into the Flex framework and its advanced concepts. So for me, it's good to have both sides in the same place. Just my thoughts, Tim Hoff -- "Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any one thing.""You can have anything you want - if you want it badly enough. You can be anything you want to be, do anything you set out to accomplish if you hold to that desire with singleness of purpose." - Abraham Lincoln -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
Can we also get an AS3 specific list? From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Schmalle Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:30 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment Hello all, The Flex Frame Workers ... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexframeworkers/ To those who replied to this email and others that might have found it interesting, I bit the bullet. Since flexcoders is on yahoogroups, I figured that it was just as easy to do it here also. There is a new group for component and framework questions that will be lead by me(Michael Schmalle, TeotiGraphix) and others in the future. Anybody that seriously wants to 'dive' into the framework, this is the place to do it. There are a ton of questions I wouldn't ask on flexcoders but, on flexframeworkers, will be asked and answered. Take a look at my bolg and you will see why it probably is a good idea to sign up for this list, even if you are not sure 'yet' if you are a flex framewroker ;-) Anyway, Mike will be on this list and this is what I do for a living, lets help each other and turn this into another thriving ecosystem for Flex2 proliferation! Peace, Mike On 5/19/06, judah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the Flash world there is: FlashCoders - questions related to coding in flash - usually you've looked everywhere else first FlashNewbies - questions for newbies http://www.figleaf.com/Community/listserv.cfm ExtendFlash - questions related to JSFL, XML2UI, Commands, Behaviours, Timeline Effects and Tools http://www.flashguru.co.uk/extending-flash-mailing-list/ These lists served there purpose great. I could get nearly any question answered from these three lists except when it came to component development. There was nothing for that and it was really missed. I wouldn't mind if we do the same thing for Flex and add a component/framework development list to the list where we can ask about list components (eh hehe - couldn't resist): FlexCoders - questions related to coding in flash - usually you've looked everywhere else first Flex2Coders - i really want to add a flex 2 list but only if the adobe people would join FlexNewbies - questions for flex newbies FlexExtension - questions related to extending the flex ide, flex components or flex framework Maybe something like that??? Judah Tariq Ahmed wrote: I've actually quietly made some new Flex mailing lists; I've let it simmer while waiting for Flex 2 to become final. I don't think too granular of lists works well as there's too much overlap in a lot of things. But I do see one problem arising with one super list like this - not only are the spectrum of topics vast, now you got to content with two major versions of the language in use (1.5 and 2), and so you'll have to do a lot prefacing of context in every single message. So... to alleviate that, I created the following: Flex 2- General :: General discussion regarding anything Flex 2. http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-General Flex 2- Coldfusion :: Topics regarding Flex to CF integration http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-CF Flex Builder 2 :: Discussion regarding the IDE, debugging, design, etc http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-Builder Flex Jobs :: Recruiters welcome! http://groups.google.com/group/FlexJobs Tim Hoff wrote: I agree with you. It might be beneficial to have a separate list for component/framework related threads. It's probably cumbersome to weed through the development questions and answers some times. I personally joined this list because I was led here by a link at Adobe and the list description was applicable to my Flex usage. The flexcoders mailing list is for enterprise software developers, developing Rich Internet Applications using Macromedia Flex. The list will discuss methods and practices for Flex RIA development, including MXML and ActionScript 2.0, as well as best-practices including testing, design patterns, J2EE and .NET integration, etc. However, imho this is a two-way street. Application developers learn and benefit from component/framework threads. And conversely, some component/framework developers appreciate the feedback from developers that are using Flex to create real enterprise solutions. I am slowly but surely digging deeper into the Flex framework and its advanced concepts. So for me, it's good to have both sides in the same place. Just my thoughts, Tim Hoff -- "Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any one thing." "You can have anything you want - if you want it badly enough. You can be anything you want to be, do anything you set out to accomplish if you hold to that desire with singleness of purpose." - Abraham Lin
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
Hi, Yeah I think that is a good idea, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/as3coders So now this is all I need ;-) Peace, MikeOn 5/29/06, Bjorn Schultheiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can we also get an AS3 specific list? From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Schmalle Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:30 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment Hello all, The Flex Frame Workers ... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexframeworkers/ To those who replied to this email and others that might have found it interesting, I bit the bullet. Since flexcoders is on yahoogroups, I figured that it was just as easy to do it here also. There is a new group for component and framework questions that will be lead by me(Michael Schmalle, TeotiGraphix) and others in the future. Anybody that seriously wants to 'dive' into the framework, this is the place to do it. There are a ton of questions I wouldn't ask on flexcoders but, on flexframeworkers, will be asked and answered. Take a look at my bolg and you will see why it probably is a good idea to sign up for this list, even if you are not sure 'yet' if you are a flex framewroker ;-) Anyway, Mike will be on this list and this is what I do for a living, lets help each other and turn this into another thriving ecosystem for Flex2 proliferation! Peace, Mike On 5/19/06, judah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the Flash world there is: FlashCoders - questions related to coding in flash - usually you've looked everywhere else first FlashNewbies - questions for newbies http://www.figleaf.com/Community/listserv.cfm ExtendFlash - questions related to JSFL, XML2UI, Commands, Behaviours, Timeline Effects and Tools http://www.flashguru.co.uk/extending-flash-mailing-list/ These lists served there purpose great. I could get nearly any question answered from these three lists except when it came to component development. There was nothing for that and it was really missed. I wouldn't mind if we do the same thing for Flex and add a component/framework development list to the list where we can ask about list components (eh hehe - couldn't resist): FlexCoders - questions related to coding in flash - usually you've looked everywhere else first Flex2Coders - i really want to add a flex 2 list but only if the adobe people would join FlexNewbies - questions for flex newbies FlexExtension - questions related to extending the flex ide, flex components or flex framework Maybe something like that??? Judah Tariq Ahmed wrote: I've actually quietly made some new Flex mailing lists; I've let it simmer while waiting for Flex 2 to become final. I don't think too granular of lists works well as there's too much overlap in a lot of things. But I do see one problem arising with one super list like this - not only are the spectrum of topics vast, now you got to content with two major versions of the language in use (1.5 and 2), and so you'll have to do a lot prefacing of context in every single message. So... to alleviate that, I created the following: Flex 2- General :: General discussion regarding anything Flex 2. http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-General Flex 2- Coldfusion :: Topics regarding Flex to CF integration http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-CF Flex Builder 2 :: Discussion regarding the IDE, debugging, design, etc http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-Builder Flex Jobs :: Recruiters welcome! http://groups.google.com/group/FlexJobs Tim Hoff wrote: I agree with you. It might be beneficial to have a separate list for component/framework related threads. It's probably cumbersome to weed through the development questions and answers some times. I personally joined this list because I was led here by a link at Adobe and the list description was applicable to my Flex usage. The flexcoders mailing list is for enterprise software developers, developing Rich Internet Applications using Macromedia Flex. The list will discuss methods and practices for Flex RIA development, including MXML and ActionScript 2.0, as well as best-practices including testing, design patterns, J2EE and .NET integration , etc. However, imho this is a two-way street. Application developers learn and benefit from component/framework threads. And conversely, some component/framework developers appreciate the feedback from developers that are using Flex to create real enterprise solutions. I am slowly but surely digging deeper into the Flex framework and its advanced concepts. So for me, it's good to have both sides in the same place. Just my thoughts, Tim Hoff -- "Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any one thing.""You can have a
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
Thanks. I will start bombarding soon J From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Schmalle Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:46 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment Hi, Yeah I think that is a good idea, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/as3coders So now this is all I need ;-) Peace, Mike On 5/29/06, Bjorn Schultheiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can we also get an AS3 specific list? From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Schmalle Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:30 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment Hello all, The Flex Frame Workers ... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexframeworkers/ To those who replied to this email and others that might have found it interesting, I bit the bullet. Since flexcoders is on yahoogroups, I figured that it was just as easy to do it here also. There is a new group for component and framework questions that will be lead by me(Michael Schmalle, TeotiGraphix) and others in the future. Anybody that seriously wants to 'dive' into the framework, this is the place to do it. There are a ton of questions I wouldn't ask on flexcoders but, on flexframeworkers, will be asked and answered. Take a look at my bolg and you will see why it probably is a good idea to sign up for this list, even if you are not sure 'yet' if you are a flex framewroker ;-) Anyway, Mike will be on this list and this is what I do for a living, lets help each other and turn this into another thriving ecosystem for Flex2 proliferation! Peace, Mike On 5/19/06, judah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the Flash world there is: FlashCoders - questions related to coding in flash - usually you've looked everywhere else first FlashNewbies - questions for newbies http://www.figleaf.com/Community/listserv.cfm ExtendFlash - questions related to JSFL, XML2UI, Commands, Behaviours, Timeline Effects and Tools http://www.flashguru.co.uk/extending-flash-mailing-list/ These lists served there purpose great. I could get nearly any question answered from these three lists except when it came to component development. There was nothing for that and it was really missed. I wouldn't mind if we do the same thing for Flex and add a component/framework development list to the list where we can ask about list components (eh hehe - couldn't resist): FlexCoders - questions related to coding in flash - usually you've looked everywhere else first Flex2Coders - i really want to add a flex 2 list but only if the adobe people would join FlexNewbies - questions for flex newbies FlexExtension - questions related to extending the flex ide, flex components or flex framework Maybe something like that??? Judah Tariq Ahmed wrote: I've actually quietly made some new Flex mailing lists; I've let it simmer while waiting for Flex 2 to become final. I don't think too granular of lists works well as there's too much overlap in a lot of things. But I do see one problem arising with one super list like this - not only are the spectrum of topics vast, now you got to content with two major versions of the language in use (1.5 and 2), and so you'll have to do a lot prefacing of context in every single message. So... to alleviate that, I created the following: Flex 2- General :: General discussion regarding anything Flex 2. http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-General Flex 2- Coldfusion :: Topics regarding Flex to CF integration http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-CF Flex Builder 2 :: Discussion regarding the IDE, debugging, design, etc http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-Builder Flex Jobs :: Recruiters welcome! http://groups.google.com/group/FlexJobs Tim Hoff wrote: I agree with you. It might be beneficial to have a separate list for component/framework related threads. It's probably cumbersome to weed through the development questions and answers some times. I personally joined this list because I was led here by a link at Adobe and the list description was applicable to my Flex usage. The flexcoders mailing list is for enterprise software developers, developing Rich Internet Applications using Macromedia Flex. The list will discuss methods and practices for Flex RIA development, including MXML and ActionScript 2.0, as well as best-practices including testing, design patterns, J2EE and .NET integration , etc. However, imho this is a two-way street. Application developers learn and benefit from component/framework threads. And conversely, some component/framework developers appreciate the feedback from developers that are using Flex to create real enter
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
Guys, The team at Adobe do our utmost to follow these lists - as soon as they fragment into multiple lists, it becomes more and more of our time to keep track of them all. There is no question related to Flex - be it 1.5, 2.0, Data Services, Component Development, etc, etc - that is not suitable for posting here. The tipping point, for me, to split into separate lists, is where there are hundreds of posts a day of interest to only a small demographic of the list - at that point, it makes sense to carve out a separate list. Until then - while people are trying to get up to speed on ALL apsects of flex development - there's a huge benefit in having all the knowledge, expertise, archives and threads, on the one list. Best, Steven -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
Steven, I understand what you are saying, but the fact of the matter is; the more water you put in juice, the less zing it has. I'm not trying to take over the world, I am doing something that will either work or not work. As far as Adobe monitoring 'this' list, don't if you can't. This is not why I did it and I definatly don't expect Adobe to answer questions and get 'fragmented'. There is nothing you could say to me, that would make me think this list is sutable for the questions I want to ask. Besides, I have asked many(search the archives) and they have not been answered. I figure this, If I can get a 'more' consolidated list of users that has deep questions in them that are getting answered, then it has succeded. As Flex2 moves forward, there are so many avenues it could lead. One final note, pardon me if I used the flexcoders list inappropriatly, I could have just posted it on my blog and got plenty of interest there. Thanks, Mike On 5/29/06, Steven Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Guys, The team at Adobe do our utmost to follow these lists - as soon as they fragment into multiple lists, it becomes more and more of our time to keep track of them all. There is no question related to Flex - be it 1.5, 2.0, Data Services, Component Development, etc, etc - that is not suitable for posting here. The tipping point, for me, to split into separate lists, is where there are hundreds of posts a day of interest to only a small demographic of the list - at that point, it makes sense to carve out a separate list. Until then - while people are trying to get up to speed on ALL apsects of flex development - there's a huge benefit in having all the knowledge, expertise, archives and threads, on the one list. Best, Steven -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- What goes up, does come down. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
I guess they have been created now. I think their success depending on the Adobe engineers and consultants input on these lists. I personally hope there will be input from you guys on the AS3 specific list. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Webster Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:57 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment Guys, The team at Adobe do our utmost to follow these lists - as soon as they fragment into multiple lists, it becomes more and more of our time to keep track of them all. There is no question related to Flex - be it 1.5, 2.0, Data Services, Component Development, etc, etc - that is not suitable for posting here. The tipping point, for me, to split into separate lists, is where there are hundreds of posts a day of interest to only a small demographic of the list - at that point, it makes sense to carve out a separate list. Until then - while people are trying to get up to speed on ALL apsects of flex development - there's a huge benefit in having all the knowledge, expertise, archives and threads, on the one list. Best, Steven -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
Steven, I have a question; Isn't a move like this (creating a framework/component) list, like refactoring in OOP? Essentially, this thought came from intuition about 2 months ago when my 'development problems' were not being met. I see a way to grab a 'niche' of developers like myself and let us play off of our own intelligence. This means developers looking at questions of a list completly related to components and the framework see only questions about framework programming. I am not an application developer and do not want to be. So, comming from a component developer's perspective, I see this as completly necessary and for the most part required. If I am nieve, I will learn. Thanks, MikeOn 5/29/06, Bjorn Schultheiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess they have been created now. I think their success depending on the Adobe engineers and consultants input on these lists. I personally hope there will be input from you guys on the AS3 specific list. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Webster Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:57 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment Guys, The team at Adobe do our utmost to follow these lists - as soon as they fragment into multiple lists, it becomes more and more of our time to keep track of them all. There is no question related to Flex - be it 1.5, 2.0, Data Services, Component Development, etc, etc - that is not suitable for posting here. The tipping point, for me, to split into separate lists, is where there are hundreds of posts a day of interest to only a small demographic of the list - at that point, it makes sense to carve out a separate list. Until then - while people are trying to get up to speed on ALL apsects of flex development - there's a huge benefit in having all the knowledge, expertise, archives and threads, on the one list. Best, Steven -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- What goes up, does come down. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
Michael, You've misunderstood the intent of my post; if you want to create your own list for Flex specific topics, then great idea, and best of luck ! My post was meant simply to respond to a recurring thread since this list first started, as to whether we should have one list or multiple lists ... and our collective feeling is that until such point as threads on flexcoders become irrelevance for a majority of the membership, there's no immediate benefit from breaking our current flexcoders list into separate lists. Sheer volume of messages isn't really the issue - whether we receive 100 messages a day from one list, or 50 messages a day from 2 lists, doesn't make the parsing and responding to the lists any easier or any more difficult. I'm not sure what questions you have been asking that haven't been answered, but there is a deep experience of Flex 1.x and Flex 2 component development on this mailing list, and I'm sure the discussion on these topics is of interest and relevance to those that are subscribed generally to flexcoders. If your questions haven't been answered, I'd expect it's more likely because individuals were busy, rather than uninterested or unable. Anyway - I just want people to be clear that we're not carving up Flexcoders into separate lists, that we expect the entire flexcoders community to choose from and subscribe to. For the foreseeable future, we expect Flexcoders to remain a single mailing list, and we'll continue to moderate, monitor and support it as before. If in the meantime, community members elect to create, moderate and support topic-specific lists as you have done - then all the better ! Flex Component development is something I anticipate really taking off with the release of Flex 2. Best wishes and best of luck with your list, Steven Sent: 29 May 2006 16:35To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment Steven,I have a question;Isn't a move like this (creating a framework/component) list, like refactoring in OOP? Essentially, this thought came from intuition about 2 months ago when my 'development problems' were not being met. I see a way to grab a 'niche' of developers like myself and let us play off of our own intelligence. This means developers looking at questions of a list completly related to components and the framework see only questions about framework programming.I am not an application developer and do not want to be. So, comming from a component developer's perspective, I see this as completly necessary and for the most part required. If I am nieve, I will learn.Thanks,Mike On 5/29/06, Bjorn Schultheiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess they have been created now. I think their success depending on the Adobe engineers and consultants input on these lists. I personally hope there will be input from you guys on the AS3 specific list. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven WebsterSent: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:57 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment Guys, The team at Adobe do our utmost to follow these lists - as soon as they fragment into multiple lists, it becomes more and more of our time to keep track of them all. There is no question related to Flex - be it 1.5, 2.0, Data Services, Component Development, etc, etc - that is not suitable for posting here. The tipping point, for me, to split into separate lists, is where there are hundreds of posts a day of interest to only a small demographic of the list - at that point, it makes sense to carve out a separate list. Until then - while people are trying to get up to speed on ALL apsects of flex development - there's a huge benefit in having all the knowledge, expertise, archives and threads, on the one list. Best, Steven --Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Ya
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
Thanks Steven, > if you want to create your own list for Flex specific topics, then great idea, and best of luck ! This is the problem I am struggling to explain. This wasn't entirely 'my' idea. There were many developers that expressed some interest in this. Since I am talking to you, I am sorry for posting this on flexcoders. We wouldn't be having this conversation that feels like a do while loop gone wild if I hadn't posted it. As far as my questions unanswered; I am sure engineers at Adobe are busy, this seems obvious. There still hasn't been any form of communication created better than face to face. Just walking down the trail enjoying the scenery and ahh, wasp nest, run! Thanks for you time Steven, Mike On 5/29/06, Steven Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael, You've misunderstood the intent of my post; if you want to create your own list for Flex specific topics, then great idea, and best of luck ! My post was meant simply to respond to a recurring thread since this list first started, as to whether we should have one list or multiple lists ... and our collective feeling is that until such point as threads on flexcoders become irrelevance for a majority of the membership, there's no immediate benefit from breaking our current flexcoders list into separate lists. Sheer volume of messages isn't really the issue - whether we receive 100 messages a day from one list, or 50 messages a day from 2 lists, doesn't make the parsing and responding to the lists any easier or any more difficult. I'm not sure what questions you have been asking that haven't been answered, but there is a deep experience of Flex 1.x and Flex 2 component development on this mailing list, and I'm sure the discussion on these topics is of interest and relevance to those that are subscribed generally to flexcoders. If your questions haven't been answered, I'd expect it's more likely because individuals were busy, rather than uninterested or unable. Anyway - I just want people to be clear that we're not carving up Flexcoders into separate lists, that we expect the entire flexcoders community to choose from and subscribe to. For the foreseeable future, we expect Flexcoders to remain a single mailing list, and we'll continue to moderate, monitor and support it as before. If in the meantime, community members elect to create, moderate and support topic-specific lists as you have done - then all the better ! Flex Component development is something I anticipate really taking off with the release of Flex 2. Best wishes and best of luck with your list, Steven Sent: 29 May 2006 16:35To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment Steven,I have a question;Isn't a move like this (creating a framework/component) list, like refactoring in OOP? Essentially, this thought came from intuition about 2 months ago when my 'development problems' were not being met. I see a way to grab a 'niche' of developers like myself and let us play off of our own intelligence. This means developers looking at questions of a list completly related to components and the framework see only questions about framework programming.I am not an application developer and do not want to be. So, comming from a component developer's perspective, I see this as completly necessary and for the most part required. If I am nieve, I will learn.Thanks,Mike On 5/29/06, Bjorn Schultheiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess they have been created now. I think their success depending on the Adobe engineers and consultants input on these lists. I personally hope there will be input from you guys on the AS3 specific list. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven WebsterSent: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:57 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment Guys, The team at Adobe do our utmost to follow these lists - as soon as they fragment into multiple lists, it becomes more and more of our time to keep track of them all. There is no question related to Flex - be it 1.5, 2.0, Data Services, Component Development, etc, etc - that is not suitable for posting here. The tipping point, for me, to split into separate lists, is where there are hundreds of posts a day of interest to only a small demographic of the list - at that point, it makes sense to carve out a separate list. Until then - while people are trying to get up to speed
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
I am out after this one, > whats wrong with using the official Adobe forums? :) Use them, how many schools are in your country? Peace, Mike PS, If you read my prior posts, I said I am sorry for posting this on flexcoders. There is no problem is there?On 5/29/06, pk_wasp < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: whats wrong with using the official Adobe forums? :) the Adobe Labs structure is quite cool (AS3, Flex Framework, General etc), maybe need one for Flex Components too?) --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Schmalle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Steven, > > > if you want to create your own list for Flex specific topics, then great > idea, and best of luck ! > > This is the problem I am struggling to explain. This wasn't entirely 'my' > idea. There were many developers that expressed some interest in this. > > Since I am talking to you, I am sorry for posting this on flexcoders. We > wouldn't be having this conversation that feels like a do while loop gone > wild if I hadn't posted it. > > As far as my questions unanswered; I am sure engineers at Adobe are busy, > this seems obvious. > > There still hasn't been any form of communication created better than face > to face. > > Just walking down the trail enjoying the scenery and ahh, wasp nest, run! > > Thanks for you time Steven, > > Mike > > On 5/29/06, Steven Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Michael, > > > > You've misunderstood the intent of my post; if you want to create your own > > list for Flex specific topics, then great idea, and best of luck ! > > > > My post was meant simply to respond to a recurring thread since this list > > first started, as to whether we should have one list or multiple lists ... > > and our collective feeling is that until such point as threads on flexcoders > > become irrelevance for a majority of the membership, there's no immediate > > benefit from breaking our current flexcoders list into separate lists. > > Sheer volume of messages isn't really the issue - whether we receive 100 > > messages a day from one list, or 50 messages a day from 2 lists, doesn't > > make the parsing and responding to the lists any easier or any more > > difficult. > > > > I'm not sure what questions you have been asking that haven't been > > answered, but there is a deep experience of Flex 1.x and Flex 2 component > > development on this mailing list, and I'm sure the discussion on these > > topics is of interest and relevance to those that are subscribed generally > > to flexcoders. If your questions haven't been answered, I'd expect it's > > more likely because individuals were busy, rather than uninterested or > > unable. > > > > Anyway - I just want people to be clear that we're not carving up > > Flexcoders into separate lists, that we expect the entire flexcoders > > community to choose from and subscribe to. For the foreseeable future, we > > expect Flexcoders to remain a single mailing list, and we'll continue to > > moderate, monitor and support it as before. > > > > If in the meantime, community members elect to create, moderate and > > support topic-specific lists as you have done - then all the better ! Flex > > Component development is something I anticipate really taking off with the > > release of Flex 2. > > > > Best wishes and best of luck with your list, > > > > Steven > > > > *Sent:* 29 May 2006 16:35 > > *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: > > Component developers - Framework Devlopment > > > > Steven, > > > > I have a question; > > > > Isn't a move like this (creating a framework/component) list, like > > refactoring in OOP? Essentially, this thought came from intuition about 2 > > months ago when my 'development problems' were not being met. > > > > I see a way to grab a 'niche' of developers like myself and let us play > > off of our own intelligence. This means developers looking at questions of a > > list completly related to components and the framework see only questions > > about framework programming. > > > > I am not an application developer and do not want to be. So, comming from > > a component developer's perspective, I see this as completly necessary and > > for the most part required. > > > > If I am nieve, I will learn. > > > > Thanks, > > > &g
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
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Re[2]: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
Hello Steven, I support the fragmentation of flexcoders into separate mailing lists. 1st factor: Flex community is growing fast --- 2779 messages were posted to Yahoo! Flexcoders mailign list in May 2006 alone, while there was only 1839 messages in May 2005. 2nd factor : Subscribing to any new Yahoo! based list and tracking updates from this list is very easy. --- For example, I am subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list as well ;) and this does not do me any harm. 3d factor : The more sources of knowledge - the better is for researcher --- For example, there are bunch of remnants of USENET groups hosted at Google servers: * macromedia.flash.flash_remoting http://groups.google.com.ua/group/macromedia.flash.flash_remoting * macromedia.flash.data_intergration http://groups.google.com.ua/group/macromedia.flash.data_integration?lnk=lr&hl=uk * macromedia.flex.general_discussion http://groups.google.com.ua/group/macromedia.flex.general_discussion * flex.general_discussion http://groups.google.com.ua/group/macromedia.flex.general_discussion * macromedia.richintapps http://groups.google.com.ua/group/macromedia.richintapps Only the strongest community will survive :) -- Best regards, Andriy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.