[flexcoders] Re: creating a World Clock and need a little help with the time and date
Looking at the ASP .NET Date Tutorial at http://www.easerve.com/developer/tutorials/asp-net-tutorials-dates.aspx you can figure out how the dates work. Using that I came up with the following which should help you out: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? mx:Application pageTitle=World Time xmlns:mx=http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml; width=100% height=100% backgroundSize=100% layout=vertical horizontalAlign=left creationComplete=onComplete(event) backgroundColor=#BB mx:Script ![CDATA[ import mx.events.FlexEvent; [Bindable] private var dateText:String; private var CurrentTimeTicks:Number = 633516008019218750; public function onComplete(event:FlexEvent):void { var ticksSince1970:Number = CurrentTimeTicks - NumTicksTo1970(); var msSince1970:Number = ticksSince1970 / 1; var currentDate:Date = new Date(msSince1970); dateText = currentDate.toDateString() + + currentDate.toTimeString(); } private function NumTicksTo1970():Number { var secondsPerDay:Number = 60 * 60 * 24; var numSecondsTo1970:Number = 0; for(var i:int = 1 ; i 1970 ; i++) { if((i % 4 == 0 i % 100 != 0) || i % 400 == 0) { numSecondsTo1970 += 366 * secondsPerDay; } else { numSecondsTo1970 += 365 * secondsPerDay; } } return 1000 * numSecondsTo1970; } ]] /mx:Script mx:Text text={dateText} / /mx:Application --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the problem is that the CurrentTimeTicks and UtcOffsetTicks is returned in nanoseconds or increment of 100 nanoseconds so I can't use, new Date(CurrentTimeTicks);. It returns as not a date Here's how the XML looks: TimeZoneInfo NameDateline Standard Time/Name DaylightNameDateline Daylight Time/DaylightName StandardNameDateline Standard Time/StandardName DisplayName(GMT-12:00) International Date Line West/DisplayName UtcOffsetTicks-4320/UtcOffsetTicks CurrentTimeTicks633516008019218750/CurrentTimeTicks IsInDaylightSavingfalse/IsInDaylightSaving /TimeZoneInfo --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald dznuts@ wrote: All typed off the top of my head in gmail and untested: //Get a date for the UTC time numbers will match, but will be in local time var foreignTime:Date = new Date(CurrentTimeTicks); //Strip our current (local) offset (check my -/+ math!) foreignTime.time -= foreignTime.getTimeZoneOffset() * 1000 * 60; //Convert so the foreign value appears when getting the local value (again, check +/-) foreignTime.time += UtcOffsetTicks * 1000 * 60; if (IsDaylightSaving) foreignTime.time += 360; //Now if you fetch hours, minutes, seconds from foreignTime they should return the numbers you'd like. I've probably got a couple of +/- switched around, and if the ticks are seconds instead of ms knock off 3 zeros from some of those fields, but that should give you a starting point :) When you get the correct answer, please post it to the list in a follow-up to this thread. -Josh On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Mark markp.shopping_id@ wrote: I asked this question going into a weekend so I wanted to re-ask it today and see if anyone has any ideas on how to work this? Thank You, Mark -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: josh@
[flexcoders] Re: creating a World Clock and need a little help with the time and date
I agree with you 100% Josh but the better ones want the all might $$ and my company isn't willing to pay for it, it's just nice to have. So I need to find a free one or give it up. But I'm not willing to do that just yet... soon, but not yet. :-) They do have have some pseudocode on the site but it really shows it using the DateTime in .Net. And my understanding of that is that's built in so there's no convesions (although I could be wrong). -M --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Switch to a different web service, or call whoever provides it and get some documentation :) What the hell is 1AD? We haven't been keeping nice records since like 200AD or something. And do they count all the various leap seconds? What about that time when some pope rejigged the calendar and we disappeared like 13 days or something? Anybody proving information of such a monstrously non-standard fashion should also be providing some serious documentation and/or pseudocode. -Josh -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[flexcoders] Re: creating a World Clock and need a little help with the time and date
Verify that you get midnight Jan 1, 1 AD from the following and you'll have the epoch adjustment value: new Date( -6213559680 ).toUTCString() Converting from timeticks returned by your webservice: var epochAdjustment: Number = -6213559680; var d: Date = new Date ( CurrentTimeTicks / 1 + epochAdjustment ); trace( d.toString() ); // client's local time --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with you 100% Josh but the better ones want the all might $$ and my company isn't willing to pay for it, it's just nice to have. So I need to find a free one or give it up. But I'm not willing to do that just yet... soon, but not yet. :-) They do have have some pseudocode on the site but it really shows it using the DateTime in .Net. And my understanding of that is that's built in so there's no convesions (although I could be wrong). -M --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald dznuts@ wrote: Switch to a different web service, or call whoever provides it and get some documentation :) What the hell is 1AD? We haven't been keeping nice records since like 200AD or something. And do they count all the various leap seconds? What about that time when some pope rejigged the calendar and we disappeared like 13 days or something? Anybody proving information of such a monstrously non-standard fashion should also be providing some serious documentation and/or pseudocode. -Josh -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: josh@
Re: [flexcoders] Re: creating a World Clock and need a little help with the time and date
The .net Date stuff will work sensibly and probably just like Flash's, so I'd start with copying their code and work from there :) -Josh On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with you 100% Josh but the better ones want the all might $$ and my company isn't willing to pay for it, it's just nice to have. So I need to find a free one or give it up. But I'm not willing to do that just yet... soon, but not yet. :-) They do have have some pseudocode on the site but it really shows it using the DateTime in .Net. And my understanding of that is that's built in so there's no convesions (although I could be wrong). -M --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Switch to a different web service, or call whoever provides it and get some documentation :) What the hell is 1AD? We haven't been keeping nice records since like 200AD or something. And do they count all the various leap seconds? What about that time when some pope rejigged the calendar and we disappeared like 13 days or something? Anybody proving information of such a monstrously non-standard fashion should also be providing some serious documentation and/or pseudocode. -Josh -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[flexcoders] Re: creating a World Clock and need a little help with the time and date
I tried a few things along those lines and not even getting close... really: setDate = new Date(nanoSeconds/1000 - new Date().getTime()); RETURNS Tue Jun 20 09:55:17 GMT-0400 1933 setDate = new Date(nanoSeconds/(60*1000) - new Date().getTime ()); RETURNS Tue Jun 30 09:26:26 GMT-0400 1931 setDate = new Date(nanoSeconds/(60*1000) - new Date (1970,0,1,0,0,0,0).getTime()); RETURNS Mon Jan 12 19:17:43 GMT-0500 1970 setDate = new Date(nanoSeconds/1000 - new Date (1970,0,1,0,0,0,0).getTime()); RETURNS Mon Jan 3 19:43:04 GMT-0500 1972 There's a problem with the math but I'm just not able to find it. Any more help?? Maybe someone knows a different Web Service? Thanks, Mark --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Doug Lowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CurrentTimeTicks looks like a 100ns count from the year 1 AD. You could try: new Date( CurrentTimeTicks/1 - new Date().getTime() ) Then use the Date.toString() or Date.toUTCString() method to examine the result. You may need to adjust if CurrentTimeTicks isn't relative to UTC. Also, don't assume daylight savings time is always a one-hour offset. Some time zones work from increments of a quarter-hour. You have the UtcOffsetTicks available to give you the correct offset. HTH, Doug --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Mark markp.shopping_id@ wrote: Actually the problem is that the CurrentTimeTicks and UtcOffsetTicks is returned in nanoseconds or increment of 100 nanoseconds so I can't use, new Date(CurrentTimeTicks);. It returns as not a date Here's how the XML looks: TimeZoneInfo NameDateline Standard Time/Name DaylightNameDateline Daylight Time/DaylightName StandardNameDateline Standard Time/StandardName DisplayName(GMT-12:00) International Date Line West/DisplayName UtcOffsetTicks-4320/UtcOffsetTicks CurrentTimeTicks633516008019218750/CurrentTimeTicks IsInDaylightSavingfalse/IsInDaylightSaving /TimeZoneInfo --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald dznuts@ wrote: All typed off the top of my head in gmail and untested: //Get a date for the UTC time numbers will match, but will be in local time var foreignTime:Date = new Date(CurrentTimeTicks); //Strip our current (local) offset (check my -/+ math!) foreignTime.time -= foreignTime.getTimeZoneOffset() * 1000 * 60; //Convert so the foreign value appears when getting the local value (again, check +/-) foreignTime.time += UtcOffsetTicks * 1000 * 60; if (IsDaylightSaving) foreignTime.time += 360; //Now if you fetch hours, minutes, seconds from foreignTime they should return the numbers you'd like. I've probably got a couple of +/- switched around, and if the ticks are seconds instead of ms knock off 3 zeros from some of those fields, but that should give you a starting point :) When you get the correct answer, please post it to the list in a follow-up to this thread. -Josh On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Mark markp.shopping_id@ wrote: I asked this question going into a weekend so I wanted to re- ask it today and see if anyone has any ideas on how to work this? Thank You, Mark -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: josh@
[flexcoders] Re: creating a World Clock and need a little help with the time and date
Sorry, I missed a parameter in there - that should have been new Date (0). new Date( CurrentTimeTicks / 1 - new Date(0).getTime() ) If you truly have a 100ns count since 1 AD as CurrentTimeTicks (the math works out, but you should still verify that with the webservice if possible), then you would need to adjust for the difference between CurrentTimeTicks=0 (presumably Jan 1, 1 AD 00:00:00 UTC) and Date(0) (Jan 1, 1970 00:00:00 UTC) and pass that to Date() after converting to milliseconds along the way. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried a few things along those lines and not even getting close... really: setDate = new Date(nanoSeconds/1000 - new Date().getTime()); RETURNS Tue Jun 20 09:55:17 GMT-0400 1933 setDate = new Date(nanoSeconds/(60*1000) - new Date().getTime ()); RETURNS Tue Jun 30 09:26:26 GMT-0400 1931 setDate = new Date(nanoSeconds/(60*1000) - new Date (1970,0,1,0,0,0,0).getTime()); RETURNS Mon Jan 12 19:17:43 GMT-0500 1970 setDate = new Date(nanoSeconds/1000 - new Date (1970,0,1,0,0,0,0).getTime()); RETURNS Mon Jan 3 19:43:04 GMT-0500 1972 There's a problem with the math but I'm just not able to find it. Any more help?? Maybe someone knows a different Web Service? Thanks, Mark --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Doug Lowder douglowder@ wrote: CurrentTimeTicks looks like a 100ns count from the year 1 AD. You could try: new Date( CurrentTimeTicks/1 - new Date().getTime() ) Then use the Date.toString() or Date.toUTCString() method to examine the result. You may need to adjust if CurrentTimeTicks isn't relative to UTC. Also, don't assume daylight savings time is always a one-hour offset. Some time zones work from increments of a quarter-hour. You have the UtcOffsetTicks available to give you the correct offset. HTH, Doug --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Mark markp.shopping_id@ wrote: Actually the problem is that the CurrentTimeTicks and UtcOffsetTicks is returned in nanoseconds or increment of 100 nanoseconds so I can't use, new Date(CurrentTimeTicks);. It returns as not a date Here's how the XML looks: TimeZoneInfo NameDateline Standard Time/Name DaylightNameDateline Daylight Time/DaylightName StandardNameDateline Standard Time/StandardName DisplayName(GMT-12:00) International Date Line West/DisplayName UtcOffsetTicks-4320/UtcOffsetTicks CurrentTimeTicks633516008019218750/CurrentTimeTicks IsInDaylightSavingfalse/IsInDaylightSaving /TimeZoneInfo --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald dznuts@ wrote: All typed off the top of my head in gmail and untested: //Get a date for the UTC time numbers will match, but will be in local time var foreignTime:Date = new Date(CurrentTimeTicks); //Strip our current (local) offset (check my -/+ math!) foreignTime.time -= foreignTime.getTimeZoneOffset() * 1000 * 60; //Convert so the foreign value appears when getting the local value (again, check +/-) foreignTime.time += UtcOffsetTicks * 1000 * 60; if (IsDaylightSaving) foreignTime.time += 360; //Now if you fetch hours, minutes, seconds from foreignTime they should return the numbers you'd like. I've probably got a couple of +/- switched around, and if the ticks are seconds instead of ms knock off 3 zeros from some of those fields, but that should give you a starting point :) When you get the correct answer, please post it to the list in a follow-up to this thread. -Josh On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Mark markp.shopping_id@ wrote: I asked this question going into a weekend so I wanted to re- ask it today and see if anyone has any ideas on how to work this? Thank You, Mark -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: josh@
[flexcoders] Re: creating a World Clock and need a little help with the time and date
Bah. Obviously I'm not testing any of this myself - I'm leaving that up to you! A call to new Date(0).getTime() will just return 0, so that won't work. What you need is the number of milliseconds *between* 1 AD 00:00:00 UTC and Jan 1, 1970 00:00:00 UTC. I don't think there's a way to use ActionScript's Date class to determine this. You can use a different technology (Java's GregorianCalendar class, for example) or just extrapolate an approximation of that value. It will be a constant once determined. (1970-1 = 1969) yrs * 365.25 days/yr * 24 hrs/day * 3600 secs/hr * 1000 ms/sec * 1 timeticks/ms = 6213691440 timeticks (100ns) (This is definitely an approximation, since there aren't precisely 365.25 days per year, and it doesn't account for leap seconds, etc., but it might be close enough) Adjust CurrentTimeTicks by that constant and pass it to Date(), converting to milliseconds somewhere along the way: new Date( (CurrentTimeTicks - 6213691440) / 1 ) or: new Date( CurrentTimeTicks/1 - 6213691440 ) Hope that gets you a bit closer to a solution. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Doug Lowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I missed a parameter in there - that should have been new Date (0). new Date( CurrentTimeTicks / 1 - new Date(0).getTime() ) If you truly have a 100ns count since 1 AD as CurrentTimeTicks (the math works out, but you should still verify that with the webservice if possible), then you would need to adjust for the difference between CurrentTimeTicks=0 (presumably Jan 1, 1 AD 00:00:00 UTC) and Date(0) (Jan 1, 1970 00:00:00 UTC) and pass that to Date() after converting to milliseconds along the way. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Mark markp.shopping_id@ wrote: I tried a few things along those lines and not even getting close... really: setDate = new Date(nanoSeconds/1000 - new Date().getTime()); RETURNS Tue Jun 20 09:55:17 GMT-0400 1933 setDate = new Date(nanoSeconds/(60*1000) - new Date().getTime ()); RETURNS Tue Jun 30 09:26:26 GMT-0400 1931 setDate = new Date(nanoSeconds/(60*1000) - new Date (1970,0,1,0,0,0,0).getTime()); RETURNS Mon Jan 12 19:17:43 GMT- 0500 1970 setDate = new Date(nanoSeconds/1000 - new Date (1970,0,1,0,0,0,0).getTime()); RETURNS Mon Jan 3 19:43:04 GMT- 0500 1972 There's a problem with the math but I'm just not able to find it. Any more help?? Maybe someone knows a different Web Service? Thanks, Mark --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Doug Lowder douglowder@ wrote: CurrentTimeTicks looks like a 100ns count from the year 1 AD. You could try: new Date( CurrentTimeTicks/1 - new Date().getTime() ) Then use the Date.toString() or Date.toUTCString() method to examine the result. You may need to adjust if CurrentTimeTicks isn't relative to UTC. Also, don't assume daylight savings time is always a one-hour offset. Some time zones work from increments of a quarter- hour. You have the UtcOffsetTicks available to give you the correct offset. HTH, Doug --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Mark markp.shopping_id@ wrote: Actually the problem is that the CurrentTimeTicks and UtcOffsetTicks is returned in nanoseconds or increment of 100 nanoseconds so I can't use, new Date(CurrentTimeTicks);. It returns as not a date Here's how the XML looks: TimeZoneInfo NameDateline Standard Time/Name DaylightNameDateline Daylight Time/DaylightName StandardNameDateline Standard Time/StandardName DisplayName(GMT-12:00) International Date Line West/DisplayName UtcOffsetTicks-4320/UtcOffsetTicks CurrentTimeTicks633516008019218750/CurrentTimeTicks IsInDaylightSavingfalse/IsInDaylightSaving /TimeZoneInfo --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald dznuts@ wrote: All typed off the top of my head in gmail and untested: //Get a date for the UTC time numbers will match, but will be in local time var foreignTime:Date = new Date(CurrentTimeTicks); //Strip our current (local) offset (check my -/+ math!) foreignTime.time -= foreignTime.getTimeZoneOffset() * 1000 * 60; //Convert so the foreign value appears when getting the local value (again, check +/-) foreignTime.time += UtcOffsetTicks * 1000 * 60; if (IsDaylightSaving) foreignTime.time += 360; //Now if you fetch hours, minutes, seconds from foreignTime they should return the numbers you'd like. I've probably got a couple of +/- switched around, and if the ticks are seconds instead of ms knock off 3 zeros from some of those fields, but that should give you a starting point :)
Re: [flexcoders] Re: creating a World Clock and need a little help with the time and date
Switch to a different web service, or call whoever provides it and get some documentation :) What the hell is 1AD? We haven't been keeping nice records since like 200AD or something. And do they count all the various leap seconds? What about that time when some pope rejigged the calendar and we disappeared like 13 days or something? Anybody proving information of such a monstrously non-standard fashion should also be providing some serious documentation and/or pseudocode. -Josh -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[flexcoders] Re: creating a World Clock and need a little help with the time and date
I asked this question going into a weekend so I wanted to re-ask it today and see if anyone has any ideas on how to work this? Thank You, Mark --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Web Service I found returns a few key pieces of data but I'm not sure how to convert this in AS. Here's what it's returning: UtcOffsetTicks CurrentTimeTicks IsDaylightSaving I believe the first two are returning the time and/or date in nanoseconds but I'm not 100%, while the 3rd is true/false. Can anyone help with the math/AS here? This is the Service: http://www.quantumsoftware.com.au/WorldTimeWebService/WorldTimeWebSer vi ce.asmx Thank You, Mark
Re: [flexcoders] Re: creating a World Clock and need a little help with the time and date
All typed off the top of my head in gmail and untested: //Get a date for the UTC time numbers will match, but will be in local time var foreignTime:Date = new Date(CurrentTimeTicks); //Strip our current (local) offset (check my -/+ math!) foreignTime.time -= foreignTime.getTimeZoneOffset() * 1000 * 60; //Convert so the foreign value appears when getting the local value (again, check +/-) foreignTime.time += UtcOffsetTicks * 1000 * 60; if (IsDaylightSaving) foreignTime.time += 360; //Now if you fetch hours, minutes, seconds from foreignTime they should return the numbers you'd like. I've probably got a couple of +/- switched around, and if the ticks are seconds instead of ms knock off 3 zeros from some of those fields, but that should give you a starting point :) When you get the correct answer, please post it to the list in a follow-up to this thread. -Josh On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked this question going into a weekend so I wanted to re-ask it today and see if anyone has any ideas on how to work this? Thank You, Mark -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[flexcoders] Re: creating a World Clock and need a little help with the time and date
Actually the problem is that the CurrentTimeTicks and UtcOffsetTicks is returned in nanoseconds or increment of 100 nanoseconds so I can't use, new Date(CurrentTimeTicks);. It returns as not a date Here's how the XML looks: TimeZoneInfo NameDateline Standard Time/Name DaylightNameDateline Daylight Time/DaylightName StandardNameDateline Standard Time/StandardName DisplayName(GMT-12:00) International Date Line West/DisplayName UtcOffsetTicks-4320/UtcOffsetTicks CurrentTimeTicks633516008019218750/CurrentTimeTicks IsInDaylightSavingfalse/IsInDaylightSaving /TimeZoneInfo --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All typed off the top of my head in gmail and untested: //Get a date for the UTC time numbers will match, but will be in local time var foreignTime:Date = new Date(CurrentTimeTicks); //Strip our current (local) offset (check my -/+ math!) foreignTime.time -= foreignTime.getTimeZoneOffset() * 1000 * 60; //Convert so the foreign value appears when getting the local value (again, check +/-) foreignTime.time += UtcOffsetTicks * 1000 * 60; if (IsDaylightSaving) foreignTime.time += 360; //Now if you fetch hours, minutes, seconds from foreignTime they should return the numbers you'd like. I've probably got a couple of +/- switched around, and if the ticks are seconds instead of ms knock off 3 zeros from some of those fields, but that should give you a starting point :) When you get the correct answer, please post it to the list in a follow-up to this thread. -Josh On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked this question going into a weekend so I wanted to re-ask it today and see if anyone has any ideas on how to work this? Thank You, Mark -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[flexcoders] Re: creating a World Clock and need a little help with the time and date
CurrentTimeTicks looks like a 100ns count from the year 1 AD. You could try: new Date( CurrentTimeTicks/1 - new Date().getTime() ) Then use the Date.toString() or Date.toUTCString() method to examine the result. You may need to adjust if CurrentTimeTicks isn't relative to UTC. Also, don't assume daylight savings time is always a one-hour offset. Some time zones work from increments of a quarter-hour. You have the UtcOffsetTicks available to give you the correct offset. HTH, Doug --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the problem is that the CurrentTimeTicks and UtcOffsetTicks is returned in nanoseconds or increment of 100 nanoseconds so I can't use, new Date(CurrentTimeTicks);. It returns as not a date Here's how the XML looks: TimeZoneInfo NameDateline Standard Time/Name DaylightNameDateline Daylight Time/DaylightName StandardNameDateline Standard Time/StandardName DisplayName(GMT-12:00) International Date Line West/DisplayName UtcOffsetTicks-4320/UtcOffsetTicks CurrentTimeTicks633516008019218750/CurrentTimeTicks IsInDaylightSavingfalse/IsInDaylightSaving /TimeZoneInfo --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald dznuts@ wrote: All typed off the top of my head in gmail and untested: //Get a date for the UTC time numbers will match, but will be in local time var foreignTime:Date = new Date(CurrentTimeTicks); //Strip our current (local) offset (check my -/+ math!) foreignTime.time -= foreignTime.getTimeZoneOffset() * 1000 * 60; //Convert so the foreign value appears when getting the local value (again, check +/-) foreignTime.time += UtcOffsetTicks * 1000 * 60; if (IsDaylightSaving) foreignTime.time += 360; //Now if you fetch hours, minutes, seconds from foreignTime they should return the numbers you'd like. I've probably got a couple of +/- switched around, and if the ticks are seconds instead of ms knock off 3 zeros from some of those fields, but that should give you a starting point :) When you get the correct answer, please post it to the list in a follow-up to this thread. -Josh On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Mark markp.shopping_id@ wrote: I asked this question going into a weekend so I wanted to re- ask it today and see if anyone has any ideas on how to work this? Thank You, Mark -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: josh@