Re: [flexcoders] MXML namespace
On Saturday 31 May 2008, Mark Volkmann wrote: Why does nearly all MXML use the mx prefix to refer to elements in the MXML namespace instead of making that be the default namespace? 'Convention'. When you make it the default, the MXML looks much cleaner. Until you start throwing your own namespaces, maybe with conflicting component names in, maybe... -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] MXML namespace
On Jun 2, 2008, at 5:49 AM, Tom Chiverton wrote: On Saturday 31 May 2008, Mark Volkmann wrote: Why does nearly all MXML use the mx prefix to refer to elements in the MXML namespace instead of making that be the default namespace? 'Convention'. When you make it the default, the MXML looks much cleaner. Until you start throwing your own namespaces, maybe with conflicting component names in, maybe... Even then I think 99% of the time the most used namespace with be the one for MXML. It seems logical for the most used namespace to be the one that's the default. I think it would be better to use prefixes for your own namespaces and none for MXML. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo ! Groups Links --- Mark Volkmann
Re: [flexcoders] MXML namespace
On Monday 02 Jun 2008, Mark Volkmann wrote:
one that's the default. I think it would be better to use prefixes for
your own namespaces and none for MXML.
Ok, but suppose I then show you a random snippit of code:
SomeComponentName dataProvider={foo}/
Is that Adobe's SomeComponentName (it might be one you've not seen before) or
mine ?
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Re: [flexcoders] MXML namespace
On Jun 2, 2008, at 10:00 AM, Tom Chiverton wrote:
On Monday 02 Jun 2008, Mark Volkmann wrote:
one that's the default. I think it would be better to use prefixes
for
your own namespaces and none for MXML.
Ok, but suppose I then show you a random snippit of code:
SomeComponentName dataProvider={foo}/
Is that Adobe's SomeComponentName (it might be one you've not seen
before) or
mine ?
If you apply that logic in other contexts, things would get very
verbose. For example, if you grab a snippet of Java code and send it
to someone, they might not immediately know if it was Java or
JavaScript or C++ or ... You wouldn't want to prefix each use of the
if keyword with a something to indicate the programming language.
In this particular case I think the potential for confusion is greatly
minimized having the snippet appear in a posting on this mailing list
or in a file with a .mxml file extension.
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RE: [flexcoders] MXML namespace
I think it would be better to use prefixes for your own namespaces and none for MXML. We're giving this serious consideration as a new convention for Flex 4. Gordon Smith Adobe Flex SDK Team From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Volkmann Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 4:59 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] MXML namespace On Jun 2, 2008, at 5:49 AM, Tom Chiverton wrote: On Saturday 31 May 2008, Mark Volkmann wrote: Why does nearly all MXML use the mx prefix to refer to elements in the MXML namespace instead of making that be the default namespace? 'Convention'. When you make it the default, the MXML looks much cleaner. Until you start throwing your own namespaces, maybe with conflicting component names in, maybe... Even then I think 99% of the time the most used namespace with be the one for MXML. It seems logical for the most used namespace to be the one that's the default. I think it would be better to use prefixes for your own namespaces and none for MXML. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo ! Groups Links --- Mark Volkmann
RE: [flexcoders] MXML namespace
The code looks cleaner when you set MX as the default, but some things in the design mode no longer work. Look at the custom view of properties for a Button, for example. No Icon, On Click etc. Tim From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2008 9:42 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] MXML namespace I think it would be better to use prefixes for your own namespaces and none for MXML. We're giving this serious consideration as a new convention for Flex 4. Gordon Smith Adobe Flex SDK Team From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Volkmann Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 4:59 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] MXML namespace On Jun 2, 2008, at 5:49 AM, Tom Chiverton wrote: On Saturday 31 May 2008, Mark Volkmann wrote: Why does nearly all MXML use the mx prefix to refer to elements in the MXML namespace instead of making that be the default namespace? 'Convention'. When you make it the default, the MXML looks much cleaner. Until you start throwing your own namespaces, maybe with conflicting component names in, maybe... Even then I think 99% of the time the most used namespace with be the one for MXML. It seems logical for the most used namespace to be the one that's the default. I think it would be better to use prefixes for your own namespaces and none for MXML. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo ! Groups Links --- Mark Volkmann
Re: [flexcoders] MXML namespace
Good! One reason I think this is a good idea is that it will make MXML look simpler, which is a good thing when you're trying to attract new developers to Flex. I teach classes in XML Schema and do the same thing to make that seem simpler ... no xs: all over the place because I make it the default namespace. On Jun 2, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: I think it would be better to use prefixes for your own namespaces and none for MXML. We're giving this serious consideration as a new convention for Flex 4. Gordon Smith Adobe Flex SDK Team From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Volkmann Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 4:59 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] MXML namespace On Jun 2, 2008, at 5:49 AM, Tom Chiverton wrote: On Saturday 31 May 2008, Mark Volkmann wrote: Why does nearly all MXML use the mx prefix to refer to elements in the MXML namespace instead of making that be the default namespace? 'Convention'. When you make it the default, the MXML looks much cleaner. Until you start throwing your own namespaces, maybe with conflicting component names in, maybe... Even then I think 99% of the time the most used namespace with be the one for MXML. It seems logical for the most used namespace to be the one that's the default. I think it would be better to use prefixes for your own namespaces and none for MXML. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/ flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo ! Groups Links --- Mark Volkmann --- Mark Volkmann
