[Flexradio] receive problem

2007-08-06 Thread Douglas Johnson
Thanks everybody that responded, yes it was the parrell connection causing 
trouble, now there are other problems that surfaced, I will work on solving 
them...73, Doug, w9iix
   
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[Flexradio] RTS/DTR hardware PTT

2007-08-06 Thread Jon Maguire
Is it possible for an external application (PCALE for example) to 
control PTT using dedicated RTS/DTR hardware PTT vs. CAT PTT? Thanks in 
advance for any help.
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[Flexradio] USB-parallel drop out.

2007-08-06 Thread David Hilton-Jones
I know that this issue has been raised before but would appreciate hearing 
peoples solutions.

My PC (Dell E521) doesn't have a parallel port. It has only two PCI slots - one 
is used for a modem (we live too far away from the exchange and can't get 
Broadband so have dial-up!), the other for the Delta 44.

So, I use the Flexradio supplied USB-parallel adaptor. It is a pain! Even when 
not using the computer for any other purpose, the adaptor may drop out. Power 
SDR then has to be shut down and restarted, and told the adaptor is in place. 
If you don't shut it down, but just go to Setup, it won't accept ticking the 
adaptor box.

Any tips/tricks gratefully received.

73

David, G4YTL


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Re: [Flexradio] RTS/DTR hardware PTT

2007-08-06 Thread Jon Maguire
Hi Neal, that you for the quick answer. Let me understand. I have VCOMM 
emulating ports 6 and 7. In PowerSDR, I have com6 defined as CAT. In 
exteral Apps, (Ham Radio Deluxe for example) CAT is set to COM7. Are you 
saying that I need to enable another pair of com ports, using, say com8 
in the PTT section of PowerSDR, and com9 in the external apps (such as 
PCALE) PTT  setup? Many thanks for clarifying this. I really appreciate it!!

73... Jon W1MNK Brandon, FL USA

Neal Campbell wrote:
 You can define the ptt com port in the cat tab to a virtual com port,
 then use the matching com port in your application for ptt. I never
 use cat ptt, always use virtual com port!

 73
 Neal k3nc

 On 8/6/07, Jon Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Is it possible for an external application (PCALE for example) to
 control PTT using dedicated RTS/DTR hardware PTT vs. CAT PTT? Thanks in
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Re: [Flexradio] RTS/DTR hardware PTT

2007-08-06 Thread Jon Maguire
Hi Neal. In my N8VBvCOM Driver panel, I have pairs 6 - 7, 8 - 9 and 
2 more pairs defined. When I go into PowerSDR (1.9.1 beta) CAT control 
in setup, and check the ports available for PTT, all I see is 3,6 and 7. 
8 and 9 aren't available. What have I got set up wrong? Thanks for your 
help.

73... Jon W1MNK

Neal Campbell wrote:
 Beside the cat section in the Cat tab is a box for ptt. So define comm
 ports 8  9 (for example), then define the ptt port in PowerSDR for 8,
 click RTS box and enable it. Then use port 9 in your program as the
 PTT port.

 73
 Neal

 On 8/6/07, Jon Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  Hi Neal, that you for the quick answer. Let me understand. I have VCOMM
 emulating ports 6 and 7. In PowerSDR, I have com6 defined as CAT. In exteral
 Apps, (Ham Radio Deluxe for example) CAT is set to COM7. Are you saying that
 I need to enable another pair of com ports, using, say com8 in the PTT
 section of PowerSDR, and com9 in the external apps (such as PCALE) PTT
 setup? Many thanks for clarifying this. I really appreciate it!!

  73... Jon W1MNK Brandon, FL USA


  Neal Campbell wrote:
  You can define the ptt com port in the cat tab to a virtual com port,
 then use the matching com port in your application for ptt. I never
 use cat ptt, always use virtual com port!

 73
 Neal k3nc

 On 8/6/07, Jon Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Is it possible for an external application (PCALE for example) to
 control PTT using dedicated RTS/DTR hardware PTT vs. CAT PTT? Thanks in
 advance for any help.
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Re: [Flexradio] RTS/DTR hardware PTT

2007-08-06 Thread Tim Ellison
After setting up the ports, did you click on Save Configuration and
Update Driver?


-Tim

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Maguire
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:43 AM
To: Neal Campbell; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] RTS/DTR hardware PTT

Hi Neal. In my N8VBvCOM Driver panel, I have pairs 6 - 7, 8 - 9 and
2 more pairs defined. When I go into PowerSDR (1.9.1 beta) CAT control
in setup, and check the ports available for PTT, all I see is 3,6 and 7.

8 and 9 aren't available. What have I got set up wrong? Thanks for your
help.

73... Jon W1MNK

Neal Campbell wrote:
 Beside the cat section in the Cat tab is a box for ptt. So define comm

 ports 8  9 (for example), then define the ptt port in PowerSDR for 8,

 click RTS box and enable it. Then use port 9 in your program as the 
 PTT port.

 73
 Neal

 On 8/6/07, Jon Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  Hi Neal, that you for the quick answer. Let me understand. I have 
 VCOMM emulating ports 6 and 7. In PowerSDR, I have com6 defined as 
 CAT. In exteral Apps, (Ham Radio Deluxe for example) CAT is set to 
 COM7. Are you saying that I need to enable another pair of com ports,

 using, say com8 in the PTT section of PowerSDR, and com9 in the 
 external apps (such as PCALE) PTT setup? Many thanks for clarifying
this. I really appreciate it!!

  73... Jon W1MNK Brandon, FL USA


  Neal Campbell wrote:
  You can define the ptt com port in the cat tab to a virtual com 
 port, then use the matching com port in your application for ptt. I 
 never use cat ptt, always use virtual com port!

 73
 Neal k3nc

 On 8/6/07, Jon Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Is it possible for an external application (PCALE for example) to 
 control PTT using dedicated RTS/DTR hardware PTT vs. CAT PTT? Thanks 
 in advance for any help.
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[Flexradio] CPU Usage - need to reduce overhead?

2007-08-06 Thread Carl Vangsness
I am running both 1.8 and 1.9.1 (latest versions) on my HP A520n 
Pavilion desktop (2.12 GHz, 960 Mb ram) and am seeing CPU usage of 50% 
and higher most of the time. This computer came with 64 Mb shared memory 
for video and I suspect that the CPU is being taxed trying to keep up 
with the visual load along with everything else.

Question: any benefit (as far as CPU usage) to getting a separate up to 
date video card with ~ 256 Mb memory?

Tnx es 73, Carl WCØV

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Re: [Flexradio] CPU Usage - need to reduce overhead?

2007-08-06 Thread Tim Ellison
Any improvement that reduces the load on the CPU, such as a faster graphics 
engine with more memory can not hurt.  I can't guarantee you will see any 
improvement, but it has been reported that upgrading to new high performance 
graphics cards does lower CPU utilization.

-Tim


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Vangsness
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:47 AM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] CPU Usage - need to reduce overhead?

I am running both 1.8 and 1.9.1 (latest versions) on my HP A520n 
Pavilion desktop (2.12 GHz, 960 Mb ram) and am seeing CPU usage of 50% 
and higher most of the time. This computer came with 64 Mb shared memory 
for video and I suspect that the CPU is being taxed trying to keep up 
with the visual load along with everything else.

Question: any benefit (as far as CPU usage) to getting a separate up to 
date video card with ~ 256 Mb memory?

Tnx es 73, Carl WCØV

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[Flexradio] Bob K5KDN receives FLEX-5000 ....

2007-08-06 Thread Ken N9VV
In case you missed it, Bob Tracy K5KDN received the first production 
FLEX-5000 at the Austin TX Hamfest on Saturday. Check out the picture of 
the *very happy* Bob as a *very happy* Gerald hands over the new rig.
[picture and info: http://www.flex-radio.com/]
We owe Bob a *huge* vote of thanks for all he does to keep our vital CAT 
commands fresh and up-to-date.


73 de ken n9vv
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[Flexradio] PA wont calibrate on 10M

2007-08-06 Thread Jim, W4ATK
I downloaded SVN 1395 this morning and copied over the database and the
wisdom files from SVN 1355.
I then ran the PA Calibration which failed on 10M. The calibrate routine
could not get but 7W out on 10 meters with a gain setting of 38.1. I was
monitoring the calibrate routine on a Bird Thru-Line and the Bird confirmed
the results.
I went back to SVN 1355 and, while I did not run the calibrate routine, 
I
have 80 Watts out, key down CW, drive at 100, and PA gain setting of 41.4.
I dropped the drive back to 60 and the Bird showed 60W out as I would
expect.

Have I missed something here or should this be reported as a bug in SVN
1395?

Jim, W4ATK


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Re: [Flexradio] Spam: Bob K5KDN receives FLEX-5000 ....

2007-08-06 Thread Bob Tracy
And is it ever a great rig!

Bob K5KDN

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ken N9VV
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:38 AM
To: Flex-radio Email Reflector; SDR-1000 Users Discussion Group
Subject: Spam: [Flexradio] Bob K5KDN receives FLEX-5000 


In case you missed it, Bob Tracy K5KDN received the first production 
FLEX-5000 at the Austin TX Hamfest on Saturday. Check out the picture of 
the *very happy* Bob as a *very happy* Gerald hands over the new rig.
[picture and info: http://www.flex-radio.com/]
We owe Bob a *huge* vote of thanks for all he does to keep our vital CAT 
commands fresh and up-to-date.


73 de ken n9vv
-- 
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Re: [Flexradio] USB-parallel drop out.

2007-08-06 Thread Ahti Aintila
David,

Perhaps a heavy common mode choke at both ends of your USB-to-parallel
cable will help. See:
http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10273cNode=8F5A7W

73, Ahti OH2RZ


On 06/08/07, David Hilton-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know that this issue has been raised before but would appreciate hearing 
 peoples solutions.

 My PC (Dell E521) doesn't have a parallel port. It has only two PCI slots - 
 one is used for a modem (we live too far away from the exchange and can't get 
 Broadband so have dial-up!), the other for the Delta 44.

 So, I use the Flexradio supplied USB-parallel adaptor. It is a pain! Even 
 when not using the computer for any other purpose, the adaptor may drop out. 
 Power SDR then has to be shut down and restarted, and told the adaptor is in 
 place. If you don't shut it down, but just go to Setup, it won't accept 
 ticking the adaptor box.

 Any tips/tricks gratefully received.

 73

 David, G4YTL


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Re: [Flexradio] Good graphic to help explain FFT

2007-08-06 Thread Lee Mushel
I one clicked EMRFD from Amazon and it arrived Saturday.   You are right!
I don't know how I missed this one but if there is such a thing as a ham
radio must have book it has to be Experimental Methods in RF Design!
Absolutely marvelous and immediately applicable!

Thanks for bringing it to my attention!

Lee   K9WRU

- Original Message - 
From: Robert McGwier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Flex-Radio Reflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Good graphic to help explain FFT


 Lyle Johnson wrote:
  Jim, W4ATK wrote:
  I will be giving a program at our club on Thursday night. I will be
talking
  about receivers and the changes that have come about over the years. I
need
  a graphic to help with my explanation of FFT. I may have to conjure up
one
  myself, but if anyone has one up their sleeve, I would appreciate it.
 
  EMRFD (Experimental Methods in RF Design) has an excellent section on
  explaining the FFT, with illustrations.


 Still the best book the ARRL has ever published.  BUY IT.

 
  73,
 
  Lyle KK7P
 

 Bob
 N4HY


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 AMSAT Director and VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL,
 TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair
 If you're going to be crazy, you have to get paid for it or
 else you're going to be locked up. Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: [Flexradio] PA wont calibrate on 10M

2007-08-06 Thread Tim Ellison
NEVER copy a database from one version to another.  This is a recipe for
disaster.  If PowerSDR is in another folder, do an import or (even
better yet) allow PowerSDR to create a new database.

-Tim



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim, W4ATK
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 11:52 AM
To: Flex-Radio Reflector
Subject: [Flexradio] PA wont calibrate on 10M

I downloaded SVN 1395 this morning and copied over the database
and the
wisdom files from SVN 1355.
I then ran the PA Calibration which failed on 10M. The calibrate
routine
could not get but 7W out on 10 meters with a gain setting of 38.1. I was
monitoring the calibrate routine on a Bird Thru-Line and the Bird
confirmed
the results.
I went back to SVN 1355 and, while I did not run the calibrate
routine, I
have 80 Watts out, key down CW, drive at 100, and PA gain setting of
41.4.
I dropped the drive back to 60 and the Bird showed 60W out as I
would
expect.

Have I missed something here or should this be reported as a bug
in SVN
1395?

Jim, W4ATK


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Re: [Flexradio] can someone explain why this was happening

2007-08-06 Thread Eric Wachsmann
This boils down to the limitations of MultiWatch.  It is limited by the
sample rate.  So it sounds like you were trying to set them too far apart
and it was just reverting to the highest signal is could tune.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 radio.biz] On Behalf Of FireBrick
 Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 6:24 AM
 To: FlexRadio List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Flexradio] can someone explain why this was happening
 
 FW0YL was on 7081.0 lsb listening 7290.0 lsb
 
 I would click on the qsy option in my logging program (Spot
 Collector)which
 would indeed cause SDR1000 to qsy to the correct frequencies.
 Now SDR and DXLab would not choose LSB for the 7081.00 vfoa and I'd have
 to
 manually select LSB
 SDR and DXLab did correct choose LSB for the 7290.00 vfo b.
 
 No big problem as I know that vfo a was in a section of the band that
 could
 be cw/digital or receive LSB.
 
 But here is the strange part.
 
 I do NOT know which program is causing this.
 When I enabled the MultiRX option in the PWSDR console to listen to the
 FW0YL qsx frequency, it would immeadately change the vfo b readout to
 7165.224 but remain in LSB mode.
 
 Now why would vfo b change so drastically from 7290.0 to 7165.224 when I
 enabled the MultiRX button?
 
 If I had transmitted, I would have been a long way from where Jan was
 listening.
 Split was properly enabled
 there as NO XIT or RIT enabled
 my filter choice for 7080.0 lsb was 2.4K
 
 I could repeat this anomaly every time I tried it.
 Running Commander668 Spot Collector414, (Flexradio PWSDR-1000svn1394),
 
 It's been a couple of days since I worked a ssb split qso and I can't
 remember which versions of the software was in force at that time.
 It was NOT the wide 40 meter ssb splits that are normal for that band/mode
 but a more up5 20 meter split.
 
 PS: I could not hear Jan due to the heavy precip noise here and obviously
 did NOT call on 7165.224 or 7290.0
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 married.
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Re: [Flexradio] USB-parallel drop out.

2007-08-06 Thread petervn
Hi David,
Have the same problems, not sorted out jet.
It seems that the USB adapter is very critical
on the 5 volt power. try a USB switch with external
power supply
73 peter pa0pvn
 
groeten Peter
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Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens David Hilton-Jones
Verzonden: ma 6-8-2007 13:07
Aan: flexradio
Onderwerp: [Flexradio] USB-parallel drop out.



I know that this issue has been raised before but would appreciate hearing 
peoples solutions.

My PC (Dell E521) doesn't have a parallel port. It has only two PCI slots - one 
is used for a modem (we live too far away from the exchange and can't get 
Broadband so have dial-up!), the other for the Delta 44.

So, I use the Flexradio supplied USB-parallel adaptor. It is a pain! Even when 
not using the computer for any other purpose, the adaptor may drop out. Power 
SDR then has to be shut down and restarted, and told the adaptor is in place. 
If you don't shut it down, but just go to Setup, it won't accept ticking the 
adaptor box.

Any tips/tricks gratefully received.

73

David, G4YTL


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Re: [Flexradio] Fw: Helpful software

2007-08-06 Thread Peter G. Viscarola

Flexers might find the DPC Latency checker of use. You can download it
free at the Thesycon site under Free Utilities


EXCELLENT suggestion, Mike, thanks!

I know Udo Eberhardt (who runs the company that wrote this tool), and I
wasn't even aware of this utility.  So, thanks very much!

Interpreting the results can be tricky, even if you're a Windows driver
developer. Keep in mind the tool reports ISR to DPC latency... not
device interrupt request to ISR latency. ISR to DPC latency is best
thought of as the time it takes from a device's interrupt being serviced
to when that device is able to start returning data to an application.
This is typically the type of latency that really matters to device in a
Windows system.

Note that the AVERAGE ISR to DPC latency is almost never a problem.
Rather, what you're looking for is the repeated occurrence of
outliers... worst-case ISR to DPC latency.

The bad part of all this is if you experience packet loss as a result of
excessive worst-case (or even average) ISR to DPC latency, there's often
little you can do about it.  You're mostly restricted to changing the
devices involved... and it's rarely the device you're concerned about
that's the problem.  I knew of an infamous network card that created
well over 1ms of ISR to DPC latency (for other drivers in the system)
each time it periodically checked the speed of the network to which it
was connected.  Devices that were backed up behind this NIC often
suffered from overruns and dropped data.  Swap the NIC, and problems
with those other devices disappeared.

The worst offenders, in terms of causing excessive ISR to DPC latency
for other system devices, are typically video and network cards.

Thanks again, Mike, for making us all aware of this tool,

de Peter K1PGV


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Re: [Flexradio] Fw: Helpful software

2007-08-06 Thread Tim Ellison
As FLEX-5000 beta testers, we used this tool to identify potential
problems with the Firewire device driver and in the process got to
understand how DPC latencies adversely effected performance.  

In addition to hardware device drivers, applications too can generate
long DPCs.  MS Outlook and Media Player are VERY BAD about doing this
adding sometimes up to 300 ms (1/3 of a second) of latency, which, for
an almost real-time application such as PowerSDR, is an eternity.

If you have DPC latencies in the 250 to 300 ms range when not running
PowerSDR, you will need to try to find the culprit, if there is one to
be identified.  Sometimes it can be solved easily by upgrading a
hardware driver.  Other time it takes actually upgrading the hardware
(video cards, for one).

I have a fairly fast laptop, but the average DPC latency is 260 ms with
spikes up to 350 ms and it is essentially useless for running PowerSDR
above a 48K sampling rate.  I have updated all of the drivers and tried
to find a silver bullet application or service that is running that
causes the long DPC latencies, but I can not find it.  Conversely, my
Core2 Duo has an average DPC latency of 35 uS (microseconds) and it is a
screamer running PowerSDR...as long as I do not run Outlook and/or Media
Player, which when very small buffers are used running at a 192 KHz
sampling rate, will result in audio drop outs

This is just one tool that will give you some insight into how well you
system is performing or is prepared to perform.  


-Tim

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Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:21 PM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Fw: Helpful software


Flexers might find the DPC Latency checker of use. You can download it 
free at the Thesycon site under Free Utilities


EXCELLENT suggestion, Mike, thanks!

I know Udo Eberhardt (who runs the company that wrote this tool), and I
wasn't even aware of this utility.  So, thanks very much!

Interpreting the results can be tricky, even if you're a Windows driver
developer. Keep in mind the tool reports ISR to DPC latency... not
device interrupt request to ISR latency. ISR to DPC latency is best
thought of as the time it takes from a device's interrupt being serviced
to when that device is able to start returning data to an application.
This is typically the type of latency that really matters to device in a
Windows system.

Note that the AVERAGE ISR to DPC latency is almost never a problem.
Rather, what you're looking for is the repeated occurrence of
outliers... worst-case ISR to DPC latency.

The bad part of all this is if you experience packet loss as a result of
excessive worst-case (or even average) ISR to DPC latency, there's often
little you can do about it.  You're mostly restricted to changing the
devices involved... and it's rarely the device you're concerned about
that's the problem.  I knew of an infamous network card that created
well over 1ms of ISR to DPC latency (for other drivers in the system)
each time it periodically checked the speed of the network to which it
was connected.  Devices that were backed up behind this NIC often
suffered from overruns and dropped data.  Swap the NIC, and problems
with those other devices disappeared.

The worst offenders, in terms of causing excessive ISR to DPC latency
for other system devices, are typically video and network cards.

Thanks again, Mike, for making us all aware of this tool,

de Peter K1PGV


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Re: [Flexradio] Fw: Helpful software

2007-08-06 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
QUOTE
In addition to hardware device drivers, applications too can generate
long DPCs.  MS Outlook and 
Media Player are VERY BAD about doing this adding sometimes up to 300 ms
(1/3 of a second) of latency, which, for an almost real-time application
such as PowerSDR, is an eternity.
/QUOTE

With all due respect: Applications can not generate DPCs.

DPCs (Deferred Procedure Calls) are a Windows kernel construct.  There
is no way for a non-kernel entity, such as an application program, to
build a DPC object or cause a DPC object to be inserted into a given
processor's DPC list.

DPC latency is only influenced by the time the operating system spends
at IRQLs (Interrupt Request Levels) = IRQL DISPATCH_LEVEL. There are
relatively few things that actually execute in Windows at these elevated
IRQLs.  Device interrupt service routines and DpcForIsr's are two.
Other DPCs (such as kernel timer callbacks) are another. The time a
kernel-mode module spends holding a spin lock is yet one more. None of
these things can happen in user-mode.

Now, it is true that applications can engage in certain behaviors (like
very frequent system calls, or increasing the timer frequency) that can
result in some kernel-mode entity (like the OS itself or a driver)
spending more time at elevated IRQL, and therefore increase ISR to DPC
latency.

I'll be happy to discuss this issue further with you (or anyone else)
off-list if you like.  No sense cluttering up the list with arcana of
Windows internals.

de Peter K1PGV


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From: Tim Ellison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:51 PM
To: Peter G. Viscarola; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Fw: Helpful software

As FLEX-5000 beta testers, we used this tool to identify potential
problems with the Firewire device driver and in the process got to
understand how DPC latencies adversely effected performance.

In addition to hardware device drivers, applications too can generate
long DPCs.  MS Outlook and Media Player are VERY BAD about doing this
adding sometimes up to 300 ms (1/3 of a second) of latency, which, for
an almost real-time application such as PowerSDR, is an eternity.

If you have DPC latencies in the 250 to 300 ms range when not running
PowerSDR, you will need to try to find the culprit, if there is one to
be identified.  Sometimes it can be solved easily by upgrading a
hardware driver.  Other time it takes actually upgrading the hardware
(video cards, for one).

I have a fairly fast laptop, but the average DPC latency is 260 ms with
spikes up to 350 ms and it is essentially useless for running PowerSDR
above a 48K sampling rate.  I have updated all of the drivers and tried
to find a silver bullet application or service that is running that
causes the long DPC latencies, but I can not find it.  Conversely, my
Core2 Duo has an average DPC latency of 35 uS (microseconds) and it is
a
screamer running PowerSDR...as long as I do not run Outlook and/or
Media
Player, which when very small buffers are used running at a 192 KHz
sampling rate, will result in audio drop outs

This is just one tool that will give you some insight into how well you
system is performing or is prepared to perform.


-Tim

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter G.
Viscarola
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:21 PM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Fw: Helpful software


Flexers might find the DPC Latency checker of use. You can download it
free at the Thesycon site under Free Utilities


EXCELLENT suggestion, Mike, thanks!

I know Udo Eberhardt (who runs the company that wrote this tool), and I
wasn't even aware of this utility.  So, thanks very much!

Interpreting the results can be tricky, even if you're a Windows driver
developer. Keep in mind the tool reports ISR to DPC latency... not
device interrupt request to ISR latency. ISR to DPC latency is best
thought of as the time it takes from a device's interrupt being
serviced
to when that device is able to start returning data to an application.
This is typically the type of latency that really matters to device in
a
Windows system.

Note that the AVERAGE ISR to DPC latency is almost never a problem.
Rather, what you're looking for is the repeated occurrence of
outliers... worst-case ISR to DPC latency.

The bad part of all this is if you experience packet loss as a result
of
excessive worst-case (or even average) ISR to DPC latency, there's
often
little you can do about it.  You're mostly restricted to changing the
devices involved... and it's rarely the device you're concerned about
that's the problem.  I knew of an infamous network card that created
well over 1ms of ISR to DPC latency (for other drivers in the system)
each time it periodically checked the speed of the network to which it
was connected.  Devices that were backed up behind this NIC often
suffered from overruns and dropped data.  Swap the NIC, and problems
with 

[Flexradio] Undeniable results are in already???

2007-08-06 Thread Jerry Flanders


I see the following statement on the flex website today:

The Undeniable Results are In. The FLEX-5000™ is 
the Highest Performing All-Band Amateur Radio 
Transceiver Available at Any Price! 




What is the basis for this statement? What are 
the undeniable results referred to? Curious minds want to know.

Jerry  W4UK 


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Re: [Flexradio] Undeniable results are in already???

2007-08-06 Thread Tim Ellison
Third order dynamic range at a narrow spacing (2KHz) of at least 105 dB.
This is 6 dB greater than the Orion II which come in at second place. 


-Tim

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I see the following statement on the flex website today:

The Undeniable Results are In. The FLEX-5000(tm) is the Highest
Performing All-Band Amateur Radio Transceiver Available at Any Price! 




What is the basis for this statement? What are the undeniable results
referred to? Curious minds want to know.

Jerry  W4UK 


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Re: [Flexradio] Undeniable results are in already???

2007-08-06 Thread Gerald Youngblood
Let me add a few facts:

The Orion II came in at 95 dB two tone, third order dynamic range on 14 MHz
at 2 KHz spacing with the preamp off per the September 2006 QST review.  In
the same test, the original SDR-1000 came in at 99 dB with preamp on Medium
and 98 dB on High in the October 2005 QST review.  Our in-house testing of
the FLEX-5000 is in the 105 dB range at any spacing.  These numbers can vary
a dB or so from unit to unit, on any measurements, with brand/model of
radio.  

73,
Gerald

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 Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:02 PM
 To: Jerry Flanders; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Undeniable results are in already???
 
 Third order dynamic range at a narrow spacing (2KHz) of at 
 least 105 dB.
 This is 6 dB greater than the Orion II which come in at second place. 
 
 
 -Tim
 
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 Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:46 PM
 To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: [Flexradio] Undeniable results are in already???
 
 
 
 I see the following statement on the flex website today:
 
 The Undeniable Results are In. The FLEX-5000(tm) is the 
 Highest Performing All-Band Amateur Radio Transceiver 
 Available at Any Price! 
 
 
 
 
 What is the basis for this statement? What are the undeniable 
 results referred to? Curious minds want to know.
 
 Jerry  W4UK 
 
 
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[Flexradio] question about possible automation

2007-08-06 Thread FireBrick
I use a Yaesu Quadra Amplifier.
It has the ability to do a 'F Set'.
If I key the SDR1k by clicking on the Tune button while pushing the 'F Set' 
button on the Quadra, it will change the amp to the proper band, and 
activate the Tuner if that was last used on that band.

I 'think' (here's where I get into trouble)
that reading the manual the pin 11/15 combo will 'key' the transmitter.
Does that mean it's like enabling the 'tune' button
or
Does that mean it just turns the ptt on but no signal output?

I'm looking to activate the ptt and put out a short but steady signal, as if 
I closed a straight key.

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