Re: [Flexradio] A new version of the SVN client is available
Tim, "Crack Pipe"good one...as it is the instrument of choice that delivers the addicting drug..."PowerSDR" ;) Merry Christmas to all!! 73, Mike W5CUL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 8:45 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] A new version of the SVN client is available For all you SVN "junkies", there is a new crack pipe (SVN client) available. Version 1.4.6.11647 http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads - Tim W4TME ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] ATU
Hi Gang: Question on the ATU on the setup page of SDR there is a list of the serial numbers of each device but the ATU has [QA] When I put it in I thought it had a serial number placed in it? Went to the tab ATU it showed Bypass I moved it to Automatic and it still shows [QA] when I turn off the rig still have [QA] and it is back in bypass. Any help please Ed WA3BZT ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Latency?
Alan, 1000uS DPCs is getting very close to the level where dropouts can begin to occur, but not beyond the 1500uS threshold that seems to be where all of the real problems start. I suspect that the problem you are experiencing is due to the motherboard embedded Firewire controller and how your motherboard manufacturer engineered the TI chipset into your motherboard along with the rest of the on-board peripherals. Your CPU has more than enough "horsepower" to run the radio at the highest sampling rates with moderately sized buffers (or low sampling rates with really small buffers). If you have not done so, disable the Firewire network adapter, I would do that first. If that does not improve things, then I would try a different Firewire host controller and disable the one on the motherboard. (you should disable all motherboard on-board peripherals you do not use.) I have observed on several occasions where people have installed a PCI or PCIe Firewire host controller in their PC and these problems go away. If you have a free PCIe 1X slot, use that one. Also there are know problems with software that monitor the state of your operating environment and try to prevent things (assumed bad) from happening. ZoneAlarm (software based firewalls), Virus checkers, etc) can consume system resources in the background that destroy an PC's ability to run a near real-time audio application like PowerSDR. I am not saying turn these programs off, but you can experiment to see if one of them is causing you a problem and then make your own decision if this is something you want (or need) running on your own machine. -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Johnson Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 4:00 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Latency? I'm having intermittent momentary audio dropouts and occasionally the panadapter plot drops to the bottom of the screen and tben comes back up with my new 5000A/PowerSDR installation. System is a 2.6 mHz C2D with 4 GB Ram running 32 bit Vista. Changing the sample rate/buffers in the Flex control panel and audio tab has no effect, and changing Safe Mode level doesn't seem to change the behavior, either. I have Process Priority set to high and also tried switching the processor affinity to single core, again with no effect. CPU utilization is generally less than 20% and the dropouts don't seem to be associated with peaks in utilization. I tried disabling my antivirus and spyware blockers (Norton) with no improvement. DPC latency checker showed OK with latencies less than 1000 microsec. I'm using an onboard 1394 interface with TI chip with a Microsoft driver from 6/2006 - automatic online search for updated driver showed no newer drivers. Bios shows the 1394 controller sha ring IRQ3 with a couple of USB controllers and the SMBus controller. Any suggestions as to what to try next? Thanks in advance, Alan Johnson N4LUS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20071224/e9afdded/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Thanks to our Flexers
Amen (and more of the same to all of you) groeten Peter petervn-at-hetnet-nl pa0pvn-at-hetnet-nl pa0pvn-at-amsat-org only large files:pa0pvn-at-gmail-com There are 10 kind of people, those who can count to 1010 on their fingers, and those who count to 11. Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Gerald Youngblood (FlexRadio Systems) Verzonden: ma 24-12-2007 21:01 Aan: FlexRadio List Onderwerp: [Flexradio] Thanks to our Flexers Dear Flexers, I want to take this opportunity to thank you all for making this a great year for FlexRadio. You are the worlds best customers! Your support has allowed us to make the major manufacturing transition this year from the SDR-1000 to the FLEX-5000 family. Thanks to those of you who exercised patience while we have gone through startup of a very complex new product line. We were caught a just bit off guard with the success of the new products. Here are a few things you can count on from FlexRadio one year from now: 1) The SDR-1000 and FLEX-5000 family will have higher performance; 2) The SDR-1000 and FLEX-5000 family will have more features; 3) The SDR-1000 and FLEX-5000 family will be more fun; 4) You get all that with just a software download; and 5) We will not be out of ideas about how to give you more of the above in 2009 and beyond; It is truly a pleasure to hear from so many of you who have expressed your enjoyment of our products. Please tell your friends. We at FlexRadio want to wish you all a Joyous Christmas and a prosperous New Year. 73, Gerald President FlexRadio Systems ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20071224/5d5ac459/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Vista Installation Oddities
For what it is worth,
I LIKE VMS
Merry Xmass Happy 2008
(Hoping to get the 5000 back from service soon)
73 peter pa0pvn
groeten Peter
petervn-at-hetnet-nl pa0pvn-at-hetnet-nl pa0pvn-at-amsat-org
only large files:pa0pvn-at-gmail-com
There are 10 kind of people, those who can count to 1010 on their fingers,
and those who count to 11.
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Jim Lux
Verzonden: ma 24-12-2007 17:16
Aan: Peter G. Viscarola
CC: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Onderwerp: Re: [Flexradio] Vista Installation Oddities
Quoting "Peter G. Viscarola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Mon 24 Dec 2007
06:09:58 AM PST:
>>
>> There's nothing speculative about it. We need to leverage the technical
>> superiority of Linux while accommodating the massive market inertia of
>> Windows.
>>
>
> Both Windows and Linux are essentially 1980's technology operating
> systems, with little to differentiate them at the level of base
> architecture.
>
> Calling Linux "technically superior" to Windows is capricious,
> inflammatory, and not technically correct.
I concur...
It's more a difference in development and distribution philosophy.
Under the hood the kernels work in fairly similar ways (interrupts,
drivers, preemptive scheduling, etc.) The differences are largely in
the user interaction layer.. Windows is fairly "user event" driven..
"which process fields that mouse click", although in the server world,
it's somewhat less so. I'd say that since the original WinNT kernel
displaced the older DOS "CP/M single thread" model it's been pretty
conventional multi task operating system. A file system, a scheduler,
some form of memory pool management, virtual memory/swap files,
loadable device drivers, etc.
Often, too, folks sort of congeal all of Windows, including the
applications, into one conceptual bundle. One should not tar the
underlying kernel and OS with the sins of PowerPoint, for instance.
{And yes, there's no question that MS actively seeks to cram
applications stuff into the OS.. embrace and extend and all that.. but
at least for the last few years, it's been pretty well partitioned
into user space, and is configure-out-able..}
Windows also bundles a whole raft of (non-kernel) stuff together and
encourages the use of it in applications (i.e. DDE, OLE, etc,
Microsoft Foundation Classes, the GDI API, .NET these days, etc.). In
the *nix world, the tendency is to keep all the bits and pieces
separate, and let the developer figure out which pieces to keep and
which to discard.
They BOTH have all sorts of configuration management problems (.dll
hell for Win, glibc versions, etc. in Linux), most of which are
addressed by some subsequent packaging tools (make autoconf?)
Therefore, you can probably build a smaller Linux image, because it
does provide the ability to strip out big chunks, while Windows,
targeting a more mass distribution market, tends to take a "the masses
will mostly need all this, so lets keep it one big hunk" approach.
And, there's a whole horses for courses thing. Windows is clearly
targeting the consumer media market, and to go there, they need fairly
robust digital rights management, something that the Linux user world
is not clamoring for.
WIndows (obviously) is doing a halfway decent job targeting their
market. Linux likewise. Neither is going away any time soon.
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[Flexradio] Latency?
I'm having intermittent momentary audio dropouts and occasionally the panadapter plot drops to the bottom of the screen and tben comes back up with my new 5000A/PowerSDR installation. System is a 2.6 mHz C2D with 4 GB Ram running 32 bit Vista. Changing the sample rate/buffers in the Flex control panel and audio tab has no effect, and changing Safe Mode level doesn't seem to change the behavior, either. I have Process Priority set to high and also tried switching the processor affinity to single core, again with no effect. CPU utilization is generally less than 20% and the dropouts don't seem to be associated with peaks in utilization. I tried disabling my antivirus and spyware blockers (Norton) with no improvement. DPC latency checker showed OK with latencies less than 1000 microsec. I'm using an onboard 1394 interface with TI chip with a Microsoft driver from 6/2006 - automatic online search for updated driver showed no newer drivers. Bios shows the 1394 controller sharing IRQ3 with a couple of USB controllers and the SMBus controller. Any suggestions as to what to try next? Thanks in advance, Alan Johnson N4LUS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20071224/e9afdded/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] PowerSDR platform
I know that Windows will always play a role in the future of PowerSDR (or whatever its called in the future), but the beauty of what Eric, Frank, Bob, Bob and the others I do know have done is that its open, meaning anyone can carry it to any platform they have the time and talent to do so. I suspect with each new platform/implementation, the collective wisdom will increase and the vestigial versions will only get better. We do not need to fight the platform wars, we should just enjoy the options we have (and will have). My very best holiday wishes to a great bunch of guys Neal k3nc ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Holiday Schedule at FlexRadio
Hello FlexRadio customers: This is just a note to let you know of our office schedule over the holiday week. We are working with a reduced work force this week to ship as many radios as possible. We will be working December 26, 27, and 31. Those are the days our contract manufacturer will have the plant open for our use. Our prime focus this week is completing 5000C backlog. We will also be shipping as many 5000A model units as we can with the limited work days and resources available this week. We will be receiving support calls on the same dates noted above. You can also email [EMAIL PROTECTED] We will be reading email as much as possible over the week as well. Thanks, Gerald FlexRadio Systems ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Thanks to our Flexers
Dear Flexers, I want to take this opportunity to thank you all for making this a great year for FlexRadio. You are the worlds best customers! Your support has allowed us to make the major manufacturing transition this year from the SDR-1000 to the FLEX-5000 family. Thanks to those of you who exercised patience while we have gone through startup of a very complex new product line. We were caught a just bit off guard with the success of the new products. Here are a few things you can count on from FlexRadio one year from now: 1) The SDR-1000 and FLEX-5000 family will have higher performance; 2) The SDR-1000 and FLEX-5000 family will have more features; 3) The SDR-1000 and FLEX-5000 family will be more fun; 4) You get all that with just a software download; and 5) We will not be out of ideas about how to give you more of the above in 2009 and beyond; It is truly a pleasure to hear from so many of you who have expressed your enjoyment of our products. Please tell your friends. We at FlexRadio want to wish you all a Joyous Christmas and a prosperous New Year. 73, Gerald President FlexRadio Systems ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] I'm not a programmer
Let me clarify that FlexRadio will not force an OS that is not compatible with the bulk of amateur radio software applications. I am not sure where that idea came from. Regards, Gerald -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of FireBrick Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 11:37 AM To: FlexRadio List Subject: [Flexradio] I'm not a programmer And I don't even play one on TV! I still need to call my daughter to come set the time on the VCR. I don't care a hoot about esoteric programming languages. I don't even understand English But I am a DXer and a Contester. I've won contests, I'm amoung the top on 9band DXCC and Challenge. And it took lots of time and sweat to get my Flex5K working with my logging and contest programs. I just recently (with a lot of handholding on Steve's part) interfaced my Flex/PWSDR with my Quadra amp for full automatic band changing. I realize this is a exercose om mental gymnastics for most of you braniacs. But if you plan to quit or stop using windows as I know it, in favor of some system that will not work with my logging and contest program, then give me a refund on my 5K right now so I can get a rig that will. I like my 5K, I like the panadaptor and the rigs sensitiviy/selectivity. But I won't like not being able to continue in my area of the hobby if you decide in favor of an OS that is not compatible with the programs I use. I demonstrated my Flex and PWSDR at a meeting, and the most strident comment was. Will it work with my 'stuff', and will it work with my 'stuff' tommorrow. ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] My Flex 5000A Went Dead
Art, So sorry about your problem. If you will send me a private email with your phone number, I will try to give you a call later today in between some family activities. I can walk you through the built in test forms to see if we can identify the problem. Regards, Gerald FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Art Gartner Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:50 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] My Flex 5000A Went Dead Yes, it happened to me. I received this unit on December 3. It's worked fine until Saturday morning. While listening on 20M all the signal went away and the noise dropped to the bottom of the panadapter. Could not transmit. Took off the antenna on 20 and noticed no change in the noise. Uninstalled and reinstalled the driver and PowerSDR. Updated the fireware. No change. Guess I'll have to wait until Wednesday to talk to the FlexRadio guys. Art, KA4M ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] My Flex 5000A Went Dead
Yes, it happened to me. I received this unit on December 3. It's worked fine until Saturday morning. While listening on 20M all the signal went away and the noise dropped to the bottom of the panadapter. Could not transmit. Took off the antenna on 20 and noticed no change in the noise. Uninstalled and reinstalled the driver and PowerSDR. Updated the fireware. No change. Guess I'll have to wait until Wednesday to talk to the FlexRadio guys. Art, KA4M ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] (no subject)
Mike, I've given up on the rear CW jack for straight key use, at least for now. I haven't mentioned it much lately, but probably should. My symptons are not as bad as your's, but similar. I use COM1 on my PC for straight key use. COM1 is a real COM port on my new quad core motherboard, kind of rare these days. One user (I think W9OY) commented on this reflector, that it is best to use a real COM port and not a USB to serial converter. It depends on how busy the USB bus is. SIIG makes a PCI card with a pair of serial ports. The catch 22 is that PCI slots are getting hard to come by on new mother boards. Dale, replied that you should clean your contacts. It is true that my scratchier straight keys were more problematic. But all straight keys, even my best one, have problems on the rear CW jack. I should add this to the Bug Tracker. 73, Steve N6VL ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] I'm not a programmer
And I don't even play one on TV! I still need to call my daughter to come set the time on the VCR. I don't care a hoot about esoteric programming languages. I don't even understand English But I am a DXer and a Contester. I've won contests, I'm amoung the top on 9band DXCC and Challenge. And it took lots of time and sweat to get my Flex5K working with my logging and contest programs. I just recently (with a lot of handholding on Steve's part) interfaced my Flex/PWSDR with my Quadra amp for full automatic band changing. I realize this is a exercose om mental gymnastics for most of you braniacs. But if you plan to quit or stop using windows as I know it, in favor of some system that will not work with my logging and contest program, then give me a refund on my 5K right now so I can get a rig that will. I like my 5K, I like the panadaptor and the rigs sensitiviy/selectivity. But I won't like not being able to continue in my area of the hobby if you decide in favor of an OS that is not compatible with the programs I use. I demonstrated my Flex and PWSDR at a meeting, and the most strident comment was. Will it work with my 'stuff', and will it work with my 'stuff' tommorrow. ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Vista Installation Oddities
Quoting "Peter G. Viscarola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Mon 24 Dec 2007
06:09:58 AM PST:
>>
>> There's nothing speculative about it. We need to leverage the technical
>> superiority of Linux while accommodating the massive market inertia of
>> Windows.
>>
>
> Both Windows and Linux are essentially 1980's technology operating
> systems, with little to differentiate them at the level of base
> architecture.
>
> Calling Linux "technically superior" to Windows is capricious,
> inflammatory, and not technically correct.
I concur...
It's more a difference in development and distribution philosophy.
Under the hood the kernels work in fairly similar ways (interrupts,
drivers, preemptive scheduling, etc.) The differences are largely in
the user interaction layer.. Windows is fairly "user event" driven..
"which process fields that mouse click", although in the server world,
it's somewhat less so. I'd say that since the original WinNT kernel
displaced the older DOS "CP/M single thread" model it's been pretty
conventional multi task operating system. A file system, a scheduler,
some form of memory pool management, virtual memory/swap files,
loadable device drivers, etc.
Often, too, folks sort of congeal all of Windows, including the
applications, into one conceptual bundle. One should not tar the
underlying kernel and OS with the sins of PowerPoint, for instance.
{And yes, there's no question that MS actively seeks to cram
applications stuff into the OS.. embrace and extend and all that.. but
at least for the last few years, it's been pretty well partitioned
into user space, and is configure-out-able..}
Windows also bundles a whole raft of (non-kernel) stuff together and
encourages the use of it in applications (i.e. DDE, OLE, etc,
Microsoft Foundation Classes, the GDI API, .NET these days, etc.). In
the *nix world, the tendency is to keep all the bits and pieces
separate, and let the developer figure out which pieces to keep and
which to discard.
They BOTH have all sorts of configuration management problems (.dll
hell for Win, glibc versions, etc. in Linux), most of which are
addressed by some subsequent packaging tools (make autoconf?)
Therefore, you can probably build a smaller Linux image, because it
does provide the ability to strip out big chunks, while Windows,
targeting a more mass distribution market, tends to take a "the masses
will mostly need all this, so lets keep it one big hunk" approach.
And, there's a whole horses for courses thing. Windows is clearly
targeting the consumer media market, and to go there, they need fairly
robust digital rights management, something that the Linux user world
is not clamoring for.
WIndows (obviously) is doing a halfway decent job targeting their
market. Linux likewise. Neither is going away any time soon.
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Re: [Flexradio] Vista Installation Oddities
This is a non-winnable classic Ford / Chevy debate. You can make equally valid points for each OS depending on your perspective, experience, needs, wants, comfort factor and business concerns. Both are tools. You shouldn't drive nails with a hoe. The problem with most operating systems is that none are the ideal hammer. So one man's hoe is not necessarily another man's hammer. I like the fact that we are addressing the new software paradigm with a tool chest and not a single tool. Everyone have a Merry Christmas, a Happy Hanukah, a Bodacious Bodhi Day, an Enjoyable Eid al-Adha, a Killer Kwanzaa, a Lavish Las Posadas, a scintillating Santa Lucia Day and peace on earth to all. -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Brickle Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 9:48 AM To: Peter G. Viscarola Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Vista Installation Oddities On Dec 24, 2007 9:09 AM, Peter G. Viscarola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Calling Linux "technically superior" to Windows is capricious, > inflammatory, and not technically correct. > I'm afraid you're simply wrong about this, but this is neither the time nor the place to discuss it. Happy Holidays. 73 Frank AB2KT -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20071224/8949b272/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Vista Installation Oddities
Have you tried to download Microsoft Visual Studio 2003 from Microsoft? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...( Don't forget if one day Erlang isn't supported the development must be done again.)... ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] A new version of the SVN client is available
For all you SVN "junkies", there is a new crack pipe (SVN client) available. Version 1.4.6.11647 http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads - Tim W4TME ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Vista Installation Oddities
On Dec 24, 2007 9:09 AM, Peter G. Viscarola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Calling Linux "technically superior" to Windows is capricious, > inflammatory, and not technically correct. > I'm afraid you're simply wrong about this, but this is neither the time nor the place to discuss it. Happy Holidays. 73 Frank AB2KT -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20071224/8949b272/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Vista Installation Oddities
> >There's nothing speculative about it. We need to leverage the technical >superiority of Linux while accommodating the massive market inertia of >Windows. > Both Windows and Linux are essentially 1980's technology operating systems, with little to differentiate them at the level of base architecture. Calling Linux "technically superior" to Windows is capricious, inflammatory, and not technically correct. de Peter K1PGV ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Vista Installation Oddities
On Dec 24, 2007 12:12 AM, Dale Sewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...the Apple Flex... Based on what we know now, an OSX-based system looks like it would suit a lot of needs very well. Throw Apple as a company into the mix, though, and the picture is not so rosy. They have a documented history of yanking the rug out from under users. And they're totally stone-faced when it comes to supporting hardware they haven't designed themselves. Two strikes. The final strike is the huge premium on secondary hardware like hard disks. Apple will be a pleasure to support for their platform. You'd be crazy to make them a cutpoint in your development plan. 73 Frank AB2KT -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20071224/49fbd7a1/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Vista Installation Oddities
On Dec 23, 2007 11:25 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Reality is that Research must be free to explore and find new solutions to > customer needs... > Hi Rob -- The Reality is that Linux is creaming the server market, Microsoft is still dominating the desktop market. There are reasons for each, some good, some regrettable. There's nothing speculative about it. We need to leverage the technical superiority of Linux while accommodating the massive market inertia of Windows. It's pretty clear how to do that, and getting there doesn't require research, it calls for a few months of letting the technology mature. 73 Frank AB2KT -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20071224/a3775b61/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
