[Flexradio] Thanks to our customers

2011-11-24 Thread Gerald Youngblood
Dear Flexers,

On this day of Thanksgiving in the US, we at FlexRadio wish to thank all of our 
loyal customers for your business and support.  Without you we would not be 
here.  We want to wish you and your family a wonderful day.  

Sincerely,
Gerald, K5SDR

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Re: [Flexradio] Thanks to our customers

2011-11-24 Thread konrad schultz

And, I thank you and your great people for making such a great radio - one that 
got me excited enough to get back into ham radio again.   Best, Konrad W1KON


  From: ger...@flex-radio.com
 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:36:46 -0600
 To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: [Flexradio] Thanks to our customers
 
 Dear Flexers,
 
 On this day of Thanksgiving in the US, we at FlexRadio wish to thank all of 
 our loyal customers for your business and support.  Without you we would not 
 be here.  We want to wish you and your family a wonderful day.  
 
 Sincerely,
 Gerald, K5SDR
 
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[Flexradio] Audio and CAT contorl

2011-11-24 Thread Rick Lehman
I am a new user of the Flex 5000.  Question:  If I have a third party program 
that requires both audio and PTT control do I need both a virtual audio program 
like VAC and a CAT program like comm0 or would VAC handle both?  If I have a 
logging program and only need CAT control would I use VAC or would I use a CAT 
program?  Thanks for your help.

Rick- WB4EJC Coconut Creek, Fl.
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Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT contorl

2011-11-24 Thread Ray, K9DUR
Rick,

You need 2 separate programs:  VAC for the audio, and a virtual serial port
program such as VSPmgr or com0com for PTT control.

For CAT control, you need a virtual serial port program, not VAC.

Typically, you would set up 2 serial port pairs.  One pair is used to pass
CAT information between PowerSDR  your logging program. The other pair is
used for PTT of PowerSDR by your 3rd party program.

73, Ray, K9DUR
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Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

2011-11-24 Thread Don

Rick

In addition to the information that Ray, K9DUR provide you may need a little 
more.


It mostly depends on what your goal is.

Most logging programs get frequency, mode and other information from 
PowerSDR.

This is done thru the Cat controls.   (one pair of serial ports)

If you also include a program for digital modes, then most of these programs 
also

want Cat control informaiton. (Second pair of serial ports).

In addition to Cat control most digital programs also require audio signals.
This is where a program such as Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) comes in.
It only provides the ability to pass (transmit and receive) audio signals to 
PowerSDR,
no serial information.  In order to pass the audio information PTT control 
is used. (third pair of serial ports).


But now we have a problem.  PowerSDR only accepts one set of serial ports 
for CAT commands.
So you normally can have only one program running at at time, but just over 
the horizon and
coming to our rescue are programs such as Data Decoder Utility (DDUtil). 
DDutil acts as a
traffic director an allows us to connect several programs and devices that 
require CAT and

other types of information.

1.  Serial port manager such as com0com or VSPMgr.
2.  Virtual Audio Control (VAC).
3.  Traffic control such as (DDUtil).

You might want to mention what programs you are thinking of using.
There is a lot of information on here, it has helped me many times.

Good luck

Don, kd6hq






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Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

2011-11-24 Thread Brian Lloyd
I wrote a series of articles describing the relationship between PowerSDR,
VAC, virtual serial ports, and digital mode programs on the FlexRadioWiki
to explain all this. Just start at the beginning and read.

http://FlexRadioWiki.com

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Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

2011-11-24 Thread Rick Lehman
Thanks Ray and Don.  So I'll be more specific.  I run a logging program from 
N3FJP.  This program will always be running while I am using the Flex.   So 
if I run it alone I need a CAT program like com0co to pass frequency. 
Correct?  Now suppose I want to also run a digital program like mixw while 
also running my logging program.  Now I need virtual Audio cable.  Correct? 
So VAC will pass the audio and the logging program will provide the CAT 
commands.  Will this work or is there a better way?   Thanks for your help 
and Happy Thanksgiving!



Rick Lehman


-Original Message- 
From: Don

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:00 AM
To: [FlexRadio]
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

Rick

In addition to the information that Ray, K9DUR provide you may need a little
more.

It mostly depends on what your goal is.

Most logging programs get frequency, mode and other information from
PowerSDR.
This is done thru the Cat controls.   (one pair of serial ports)

If you also include a program for digital modes, then most of these programs
also
want Cat control informaiton. (Second pair of serial ports).

In addition to Cat control most digital programs also require audio signals.
This is where a program such as Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) comes in.
It only provides the ability to pass (transmit and receive) audio signals to
PowerSDR,
no serial information.  In order to pass the audio information PTT control
is used. (third pair of serial ports).

But now we have a problem.  PowerSDR only accepts one set of serial ports
for CAT commands.
So you normally can have only one program running at at time, but just over
the horizon and
coming to our rescue are programs such as Data Decoder Utility (DDUtil).
DDutil acts as a
traffic director an allows us to connect several programs and devices that
require CAT and
other types of information.

1.  Serial port manager such as com0com or VSPMgr.
2.  Virtual Audio Control (VAC).
3.  Traffic control such as (DDUtil).

You might want to mention what programs you are thinking of using.
There is a lot of information on here, it has helped me many times.

Good luck

Don, kd6hq






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Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

2011-11-24 Thread Don

Rick

It sounds like you are mixing the term CAT with  Serial.
Please read the information provided by Brian, WB6RQN
at http://FlexRadioWidi.com  it will not take long to read.
Basically CAT refers to a group of commands that transceivers
use.  VSPMgr and  com0co are programs which set up virtual
serial ports.

After you read the above if you still have questions please
contact me at kd...@sonic.net (direct e-mail) and I will
help you all I can.  But lets do it off line and not use up
the space here.

Don, kd6hq




-Original Message- 
From: Rick Lehman

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 8:28 AM
To: Don ; [FlexRadio]
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

Thanks Ray and Don.  So I'll be more specific.  I run a logging program from
N3FJP.  This program will always be running while I am using the Flex.   So
if I run it alone I need a CAT program like com0co to pass frequency.
Correct?  Now suppose I want to also run a digital program like mixw while
also running my logging program.  Now I need virtual Audio cable.  Correct?
So VAC will pass the audio and the logging program will provide the CAT
commands.  Will this work or is there a better way?   Thanks for your help
and Happy Thanksgiving!


Rick Lehman


-Original Message- 
From: Don

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:00 AM
To: [FlexRadio]
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

Rick

In addition to the information that Ray, K9DUR provide you may need a little
more.

It mostly depends on what your goal is.

Most logging programs get frequency, mode and other information from
PowerSDR.
This is done thru the Cat controls.   (one pair of serial ports)

If you also include a program for digital modes, then most of these programs
also
want Cat control informaiton. (Second pair of serial ports).

In addition to Cat control most digital programs also require audio signals.
This is where a program such as Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) comes in.
It only provides the ability to pass (transmit and receive) audio signals to
PowerSDR,
no serial information.  In order to pass the audio information PTT control
is used. (third pair of serial ports).

But now we have a problem.  PowerSDR only accepts one set of serial ports
for CAT commands.
So you normally can have only one program running at at time, but just over
the horizon and
coming to our rescue are programs such as Data Decoder Utility (DDUtil).
DDutil acts as a
traffic director an allows us to connect several programs and devices that
require CAT and
other types of information.

1.  Serial port manager such as com0com or VSPMgr.
2.  Virtual Audio Control (VAC).
3.  Traffic control such as (DDUtil).

You might want to mention what programs you are thinking of using.
There is a lot of information on here, it has helped me many times.

Good luck

Don, kd6hq






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[Flexradio] Flexwiki is down?

2011-11-24 Thread vtnn43e


When to look up something in the Flexwiki and it is down. Is it down for some 
reason? 



Zack 

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Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

2011-11-24 Thread Ray, K9DUR
Rick,

You are correct, VAC passes the audio between PowerSDR and MixW, while a
virtual serial port (VSP) pair is used for PTT control.  Another VSP pair
passes the CAT information between PowerSDR  N3FJP.

IF all you want to run is N3FJP and MixW, and IF MixW does not need CAT
information (VFO frequency, for example), then all you need is VAC for MixW
audio, and 2 VSP pairs created by a VSP program such as com0com or VSPmgr.

I also use a logging program (DXLabs) which is running all the time that
PowerSDR is running.  I also use N1MM Logger for contests, FLDigi for
digital modes,  a couple of other programs that need CAT info.

I can run all of these programs at the same time  the glue that holds all
of this together is DDUtil.

There is a VSP pair between PowerSDR  DDUtil.  Then there are additional
VSP pairs between DDUtil  each program that needs CAT info.  DDUtil is the
only program directly connected to the PowerSDR CAT port.  It acts like a
traffic cop, providing CAT information to the programs that request it 
passing CAT commands from the other programs back to PowerSDR.

Clear as mud?

73, Ray, K9DUR
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Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

2011-11-24 Thread Don

Rick, All
There is a type-o in the address I provided.

IT is :
http://flexradiowiki.com

Don, kd6hq

-Original Message- 
From: Don

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 9:33 AM
To: [FlexRadio]
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

Rick

It sounds like you are mixing the term CAT with  Serial.
Please read the information provided by Brian, WB6RQN
at http://FlexRadioWidi.com  it will not take long to read.
Basically CAT refers to a group of commands that transceivers
use.  VSPMgr and  com0co are programs which set up virtual
serial ports.

After you read the above if you still have questions please
contact me at kd...@sonic.net (direct e-mail) and I will
help you all I can.  But lets do it off line and not use up
the space here.

Don, kd6hq




-Original Message- 
From: Rick Lehman

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 8:28 AM
To: Don ; [FlexRadio]
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

Thanks Ray and Don.  So I'll be more specific.  I run a logging program from
N3FJP.  This program will always be running while I am using the Flex.   So
if I run it alone I need a CAT program like com0co to pass frequency.
Correct?  Now suppose I want to also run a digital program like mixw while
also running my logging program.  Now I need virtual Audio cable.  Correct?
So VAC will pass the audio and the logging program will provide the CAT
commands.  Will this work or is there a better way?   Thanks for your help
and Happy Thanksgiving!


Rick Lehman


-Original Message- 
From: Don

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:00 AM
To: [FlexRadio]
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

Rick

In addition to the information that Ray, K9DUR provide you may need a little
more.

It mostly depends on what your goal is.

Most logging programs get frequency, mode and other information from
PowerSDR.
This is done thru the Cat controls.   (one pair of serial ports)

If you also include a program for digital modes, then most of these programs
also
want Cat control informaiton. (Second pair of serial ports).

In addition to Cat control most digital programs also require audio signals.
This is where a program such as Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) comes in.
It only provides the ability to pass (transmit and receive) audio signals to
PowerSDR,
no serial information.  In order to pass the audio information PTT control
is used. (third pair of serial ports).

But now we have a problem.  PowerSDR only accepts one set of serial ports
for CAT commands.
So you normally can have only one program running at at time, but just over
the horizon and
coming to our rescue are programs such as Data Decoder Utility (DDUtil).
DDutil acts as a
traffic director an allows us to connect several programs and devices that
require CAT and
other types of information.

1.  Serial port manager such as com0com or VSPMgr.
2.  Virtual Audio Control (VAC).
3.  Traffic control such as (DDUtil).

You might want to mention what programs you are thinking of using.
There is a lot of information on here, it has helped me many times.

Good luck

Don, kd6hq






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Re: [Flexradio] Flexwiki is down?

2011-11-24 Thread Neal Campbell
Make sure you are doing www.flexradiowiki.com as it comes up for me!


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Re: [Flexradio] Flexwiki is down?

2011-11-24 Thread Erik Jakobsen

Works ok here Neal

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Make sure you are doing www.flexradiowiki.com as it comes up for me!


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When to look up something in the Flexwiki and it is down. Is it down for
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[Flexradio] Keyer out

2011-11-24 Thread Bill Dailey
What are the spec on the keyer out plugs?  Voltage, polarity transmit and 
receive.

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Re: [Flexradio] Thanks to our customers

2011-11-24 Thread Neal Campbell
And thanks to the entire community, one of the nicest groups of people in
ham radio! There is obviously something about these radios that attracts
the greatest hams out there.

Onward and upward!
Neal

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:39 AM, konrad schultz konra...@hotmail.comwrote:


 And, I thank you and your great people for making such a great radio - one
 that got me excited enough to get back into ham radio again.   Best, Konrad
 W1KON


   From: ger...@flex-radio.com
  Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:36:46 -0600
  To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
  Subject: [Flexradio] Thanks to our customers
 
  Dear Flexers,
 
  On this day of Thanksgiving in the US, we at FlexRadio wish to thank all
 of our loyal customers for your business and support.  Without you we would
 not be here.  We want to wish you and your family a wonderful day.
 
  Sincerely,
  Gerald, K5SDR
 
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Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

2011-11-24 Thread Tom Peterson
Thanks for posting this.  That solved something for me.

Sent from my Batcomputer

On Nov 24, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Ray, K9DUR k9...@rnacs.com wrote:

 Rick,
 
 You are correct, VAC passes the audio between PowerSDR and MixW, while a
 virtual serial port (VSP) pair is used for PTT control.  Another VSP pair
 passes the CAT information between PowerSDR  N3FJP.
 
 IF all you want to run is N3FJP and MixW, and IF MixW does not need CAT
 information (VFO frequency, for example), then all you need is VAC for MixW
 audio, and 2 VSP pairs created by a VSP program such as com0com or VSPmgr.
 
 I also use a logging program (DXLabs) which is running all the time that
 PowerSDR is running.  I also use N1MM Logger for contests, FLDigi for
 digital modes,  a couple of other programs that need CAT info.
 
 I can run all of these programs at the same time  the glue that holds all
 of this together is DDUtil.
 
 There is a VSP pair between PowerSDR  DDUtil.  Then there are additional
 VSP pairs between DDUtil  each program that needs CAT info.  DDUtil is the
 only program directly connected to the PowerSDR CAT port.  It acts like a
 traffic cop, providing CAT information to the programs that request it 
 passing CAT commands from the other programs back to PowerSDR.
 
 Clear as mud?
 
 73, Ray, K9DUR
 http://k9dur.info
 
 
 
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[Flexradio] Worst case scenario

2011-11-24 Thread Neal Campbell
Why is it we always go for the worst outcome first?

I have been building and testing a computer today and everything was going
smoothly until it just turned off. Would not power up no matter what!

So, I unplug everything from the motherboard and bring out the PSU tester,
which shows a bad power supply. So, I plug in the bench PSU and try the
computer, no luck. So I put the power supply tester on the bench power
supply and it shows dead.

This is too much stuff dead but my first suspicion is that the PSU tester
isn't good so I throw it away and look for my spare one (not found).

Then I look down and see the power cord is not fully plugged in. AHA!

So I unplug the  bench PSU and get the PSU tester out of the trash. Plug
the original PSU back in, hit the power button and nothing happens! So I
plug the PSU tester into the original PSU and still no reading. Well, maybe
the original PSU really did die!

So I am looking in inventory for a replacement PSU and see I have none
available (the bench PSU is very underpowered for anything but testing).
But, I figured, at least confirm the motherboard isn't dead so I plug in
the bench PSU and hit the power button, nothing.

Usually at this stage its a sign I need to walk away because frustration
will start to blind me. So I push back my chair to leave and then see the
power cord for the power outlet on my test bench has worked its way out of
the power socket.

Why didn't I check that at the beginning and save myself an hour of
frustration and picking my PSU tester out of trash twice???

At least its up and working normally again!


73

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Re: [Flexradio] Worst case scenario

2011-11-24 Thread Don

Neal

Thanks, I needed a little smile right now, all I can say is Been there done 
that
Besides if we all done everything correctly the first time - well wouldn't 
that be boring.


Don, kd6hq

-Original Message- 
From: Neal Campbell

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:31 AM
To: FlexRadio List ; DXBase List
Subject: [Flexradio] Worst case scenario

Why is it we always go for the worst outcome first?

I have been building and testing a computer today and everything was going
smoothly until it just turned off. Would not power up no matter what!

So, I unplug everything from the motherboard and bring out the PSU tester,
which shows a bad power supply. So, I plug in the bench PSU and try the
computer, no luck. So I put the power supply tester on the bench power
supply and it shows dead.

This is too much stuff dead but my first suspicion is that the PSU tester
isn't good so I throw it away and look for my spare one (not found).

Then I look down and see the power cord is not fully plugged in. AHA!

So I unplug the  bench PSU and get the PSU tester out of the trash. Plug
the original PSU back in, hit the power button and nothing happens! So I
plug the PSU tester into the original PSU and still no reading. Well, maybe
the original PSU really did die!

So I am looking in inventory for a replacement PSU and see I have none
available (the bench PSU is very underpowered for anything but testing).
But, I figured, at least confirm the motherboard isn't dead so I plug in
the bench PSU and hit the power button, nothing.

Usually at this stage its a sign I need to walk away because frustration
will start to blind me. So I push back my chair to leave and then see the
power cord for the power outlet on my test bench has worked its way out of
the power socket.

Why didn't I check that at the beginning and save myself an hour of
frustration and picking my PSU tester out of trash twice???

At least its up and working normally again!


73

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Re: [Flexradio] Worst case scenario

2011-11-24 Thread Neal Campbell
I go there a lot and frequently! I end up with a large part inventory
because my usual assumption is that the most expensive part is dead and
immediately order a replacement to be overnighted in, only to discover my
stupidity the second its too late to cancel the order.

73

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Don kd...@sonic.net wrote:

 Neal

 Thanks, I needed a little smile right now, all I can say is Been there
 done that
 Besides if we all done everything correctly the first time - well wouldn't
 that be boring.

 Don, kd6hq

 -Original Message- From: Neal Campbell
 Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:31 AM
 To: FlexRadio List ; DXBase List
 Subject: [Flexradio] Worst case scenario


 Why is it we always go for the worst outcome first?

 I have been building and testing a computer today and everything was going
 smoothly until it just turned off. Would not power up no matter what!

 So, I unplug everything from the motherboard and bring out the PSU tester,
 which shows a bad power supply. So, I plug in the bench PSU and try the
 computer, no luck. So I put the power supply tester on the bench power
 supply and it shows dead.

 This is too much stuff dead but my first suspicion is that the PSU tester
 isn't good so I throw it away and look for my spare one (not found).

 Then I look down and see the power cord is not fully plugged in. AHA!

 So I unplug the  bench PSU and get the PSU tester out of the trash. Plug
 the original PSU back in, hit the power button and nothing happens! So I
 plug the PSU tester into the original PSU and still no reading. Well, maybe
 the original PSU really did die!

 So I am looking in inventory for a replacement PSU and see I have none
 available (the bench PSU is very underpowered for anything but testing).
 But, I figured, at least confirm the motherboard isn't dead so I plug in
 the bench PSU and hit the power button, nothing.

 Usually at this stage its a sign I need to walk away because frustration
 will start to blind me. So I push back my chair to leave and then see the
 power cord for the power outlet on my test bench has worked its way out of
 the power socket.

 Why didn't I check that at the beginning and save myself an hour of
 frustration and picking my PSU tester out of trash twice???

 At least its up and working normally again!


 73

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Re: [Flexradio] Worst case scenario

2011-11-24 Thread Ross Stenberg

Just another thing to be thankful for.

On 11/24/2011 1:31 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:

Why is it we always go for the worst outcome first?

I have been building and testing a computer today and everything was going
smoothly until it just turned off. Would not power up no matter what!

So, I unplug everything from the motherboard and bring out the PSU tester,
which shows a bad power supply. So, I plug in the bench PSU and try the
computer, no luck. So I put the power supply tester on the bench power
supply and it shows dead.

This is too much stuff dead but my first suspicion is that the PSU tester
isn't good so I throw it away and look for my spare one (not found).

Then I look down and see the power cord is not fully plugged in. AHA!

So I unplug the  bench PSU and get the PSU tester out of the trash. Plug
the original PSU back in, hit the power button and nothing happens! So I
plug the PSU tester into the original PSU and still no reading. Well, maybe
the original PSU really did die!

So I am looking in inventory for a replacement PSU and see I have none
available (the bench PSU is very underpowered for anything but testing).
But, I figured, at least confirm the motherboard isn't dead so I plug in
the bench PSU and hit the power button, nothing.

Usually at this stage its a sign I need to walk away because frustration
will start to blind me. So I push back my chair to leave and then see the
power cord for the power outlet on my test bench has worked its way out of
the power socket.

Why didn't I check that at the beginning and save myself an hour of
frustration and picking my PSU tester out of trash twice???

At least its up and working normally again!


73




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[Flexradio] Flex Operating Manuals With Sale Pricing

2011-11-24 Thread manualman
ManualMan is having a SPECIAL AFTER THANKSGIVING 3 DAY SALE (Fri/Sat/Sun)
on the Flex 1500, 3000, and 5000 Version 2.0 operating manuals. Go to
http://www.manualman.com/ and review the block with the title, Manuals
With Special Pricing. These are the high resolution double-sided full
color laser printed operating manuals. Additional details are in the sale
blurb.


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Re: [Flexradio] Worst case scenario

2011-11-24 Thread Russ Magnuson
Searching for a zebra is almost always more interesting than searching for a 
horse? ;-)

Best, and happy Thanksgiving,
Russ, KF1K

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 24, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Neal Campbell abrohamn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why is it we always go for the worst outcome first?
 
 I have been building and testing a computer today and everything was going
 smoothly until it just turned off. Would not power up no matter what!
 
 So, I unplug everything from the motherboard and bring out the PSU tester,
 which shows a bad power supply. So, I plug in the bench PSU and try the
 computer, no luck. So I put the power supply tester on the bench power
 supply and it shows dead.
 
 This is too much stuff dead but my first suspicion is that the PSU tester
 isn't good so I throw it away and look for my spare one (not found).
 
 Then I look down and see the power cord is not fully plugged in. AHA!
 
 So I unplug the  bench PSU and get the PSU tester out of the trash. Plug
 the original PSU back in, hit the power button and nothing happens! So I
 plug the PSU tester into the original PSU and still no reading. Well, maybe
 the original PSU really did die!
 
 So I am looking in inventory for a replacement PSU and see I have none
 available (the bench PSU is very underpowered for anything but testing).
 But, I figured, at least confirm the motherboard isn't dead so I plug in
 the bench PSU and hit the power button, nothing.
 
 Usually at this stage its a sign I need to walk away because frustration
 will start to blind me. So I push back my chair to leave and then see the
 power cord for the power outlet on my test bench has worked its way out of
 the power socket.
 
 Why didn't I check that at the beginning and save myself an hour of
 frustration and picking my PSU tester out of trash twice???
 
 At least its up and working normally again!
 
 
 73
 
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 Owner
 Abroham Neal LLC
 Work:+1 540 645 5394
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Re: [Flexradio] Worst case scenario

2011-11-24 Thread Erik Jakobsen

Neal, you did that, cause you also is a human being as we all are :-)

Sorry for the grin

/Erik


Why is it we always go for the worst outcome first?

I have been building and testing a computer today and everything was going
smoothly until it just turned off. Would not power up no matter what!

So, I unplug everything from the motherboard and bring out the PSU tester,
which shows a bad power supply. So, I plug in the bench PSU and try the
computer, no luck. So I put the power supply tester on the bench power
supply and it shows dead.

This is too much stuff dead but my first suspicion is that the PSU tester
isn't good so I throw it away and look for my spare one (not found).

Then I look down and see the power cord is not fully plugged in. AHA!

So I unplug the  bench PSU and get the PSU tester out of the trash. Plug
the original PSU back in, hit the power button and nothing happens! So I
plug the PSU tester into the original PSU and still no reading. Well, maybe
the original PSU really did die!

So I am looking in inventory for a replacement PSU and see I have none
available (the bench PSU is very underpowered for anything but testing).
But, I figured, at least confirm the motherboard isn't dead so I plug in
the bench PSU and hit the power button, nothing.

Usually at this stage its a sign I need to walk away because frustration
will start to blind me. So I push back my chair to leave and then see the
power cord for the power outlet on my test bench has worked its way out of
the power socket.

Why didn't I check that at the beginning and save myself an hour of
frustration and picking my PSU tester out of trash twice???

At least its up and working normally again!


73




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Licensed HAM-RADIO with the callsign OZ4KK
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Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

2011-11-24 Thread Rick Lehman
Thanks everyone for their help. I think I am getting the idea and will also 
read the wiki.


Rick wb4ejc Coconut Creek, Fl

-Original Message- 
From: Don

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 12:48 PM
To: [FlexRadio]
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

Rick, All
There is a type-o in the address I provided.

IT is :
http://flexradiowiki.com

Don, kd6hq

-Original Message- 
From: Don

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 9:33 AM
To: [FlexRadio]
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

Rick

It sounds like you are mixing the term CAT with  Serial.
Please read the information provided by Brian, WB6RQN
at http://FlexRadioWidi.com  it will not take long to read.
Basically CAT refers to a group of commands that transceivers
use.  VSPMgr and  com0co are programs which set up virtual
serial ports.

After you read the above if you still have questions please
contact me at kd...@sonic.net (direct e-mail) and I will
help you all I can.  But lets do it off line and not use up
the space here.

Don, kd6hq




-Original Message- 
From: Rick Lehman

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 8:28 AM
To: Don ; [FlexRadio]
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

Thanks Ray and Don.  So I'll be more specific.  I run a logging program from
N3FJP.  This program will always be running while I am using the Flex.   So
if I run it alone I need a CAT program like com0co to pass frequency.
Correct?  Now suppose I want to also run a digital program like mixw while
also running my logging program.  Now I need virtual Audio cable.  Correct?
So VAC will pass the audio and the logging program will provide the CAT
commands.  Will this work or is there a better way?   Thanks for your help
and Happy Thanksgiving!


Rick Lehman


-Original Message- 
From: Don

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:00 AM
To: [FlexRadio]
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Audio and CAT control

Rick

In addition to the information that Ray, K9DUR provide you may need a little
more.

It mostly depends on what your goal is.

Most logging programs get frequency, mode and other information from
PowerSDR.
This is done thru the Cat controls.   (one pair of serial ports)

If you also include a program for digital modes, then most of these programs
also
want Cat control informaiton. (Second pair of serial ports).

In addition to Cat control most digital programs also require audio signals.
This is where a program such as Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) comes in.
It only provides the ability to pass (transmit and receive) audio signals to
PowerSDR,
no serial information.  In order to pass the audio information PTT control
is used. (third pair of serial ports).

But now we have a problem.  PowerSDR only accepts one set of serial ports
for CAT commands.
So you normally can have only one program running at at time, but just over
the horizon and
coming to our rescue are programs such as Data Decoder Utility (DDUtil).
DDutil acts as a
traffic director an allows us to connect several programs and devices that
require CAT and
other types of information.

1.  Serial port manager such as com0com or VSPMgr.
2.  Virtual Audio Control (VAC).
3.  Traffic control such as (DDUtil).

You might want to mention what programs you are thinking of using.
There is a lot of information on here, it has helped me many times.

Good luck

Don, kd6hq






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Re: [Flexradio] Priorities, was RE: New freq, new modes, new power for 60 Meters

2011-11-24 Thread Jack Haverty
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.comwrote:

 Originally their
 customers were the early adopters and experimenters like me. As they grew
 their market became more mainstream.


Hi Brian,

Great analysis!  I think you really captured the situation.  I love my
Flex-3000 and use it all the time.  FRS seems to be doing almost all the
right things at this stage of their growth.

So, the question becomes - what do us early adopters and experimenters do
now if we want to continue to play on the bleeding edge as FRS focuses on
the mainstream?

I stumbled on this very interesting video, recently posted in the
dttsp-linux forum:

... http://youtu.be/oc9TuJucD48
http://youtu.be/oc9TuJucD48 - Accessing my own server on a wireless
LAN, demonstrating Tx (AM mode) and monitoring with a handheld, and Rx on
40/15 etc.
...
PS. For those who are not familiar, QtRadio is a client SDR program, which
 can access SDR servers across LAN or WAN (Internet). The servers supported
include softrocks, hpsdr, Ettus USRP and Perseus. The QtRadio client can
run on Windows (Rx only at present) and Linux (RxTx).

...

From the video and the associated wiki, this sounds a lot like Deep Impact
0.01 - multi-platform, client/server architecture, etc.  Even has an
Android client.  At the very least it would be fun to play with, not as a
replacement for PowerSDR, but as an alternative, for use when
experimenting, while PSDR is for production time.

The Flex- is sadly not in the list of supported hardware.

Does anyone know if it's possible to interface another program instead of
PSDR to the current Flex hardware?  I know that PSDR itself is open source,
but there's also some proprietary stuff in the mix.  Could a separate
program be written (or has been written) to integrate the Flex hardware
with bleeding-edge experimental systems like QtRadio?  Or are there key
pieces locked up in the proprietary strongbox so that PSDR is the only
viable component for the software front end?

I think you're right that PSDR software is no longer a venue for early
adopters and experimenters, and rightly so.  But is there a way (even
involving writing code) to use today's Flex- hardware with other
experimental software such as QtRadio (i.e., native, not through CAT), or
is it time to look into buying a Softrock, Perseus, or whatever?

73,
/Jack de K3FIV
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Re: [Flexradio] Worst case scenario

2011-11-24 Thread Gordon P. Howell, Jr.
In 1979 I built a Ferguson BigBoard, CPM machine with (gasp) 64K of memory.  I 
also built a power supply protection circuit with solid state relays that would 
turn off the supply if it was missing a voltage -- board required +5, +-12 and 
+24 for the 8 inch floppy drives.  BG Micro had such a supply, so that's what I 
used.

Not being the finest builder -- and all this system was bare board, no such 
thing as Antec at that time, finally found a case for the board and both 
drives, but the power supply was external -- I had a mess of wires so I decided 
to neaten things up.  Disconnected the PS cabling, neatened, re-routed and 
reconnected.  Boy, it looked nice.  Turned it on and it immediately turned off. 
 Hmmm.  What could be wrong.  Tried stuff, none of which involved verifying 
where the power leads were going.  Finally decided that my protection circuit 
had gone bad, took it out of circuit, plugged the supply back in and watched 
smoke rise from the cabinet.  When you reverse all the power leads on the 
output strip and apply plus 12 to the minus 12 bus, it does nasty things, 
especially to that expensive memory.

I found a deal on a populated Xerox 820 with all important 4116's (memory) in 
sockets for only a bit more than the cost of the memory chips and ordered from 
BG Micro, but only after the new stuff was enroute did I  discover that the 
smoke got let out of a couple of tantalum capacitors -- my original memory was 
fine after changing out the caps.  But it was too late to send the parts back, 
so that was how I ended up with the second single board computer. Xerox bought 
the rights from Ferguson and marketed the 820 for a short period of time.  A 
change in the ROMS on the board made it think it was the original BigBoard.

Ah, the good old days…

Geep
WA4RTS

On Nov 24, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:

 I go there a lot and frequently! I end up with a large part inventory
 because my usual assumption is that the most expensive part is dead and
 immediately order a replacement to be overnighted in, only to discover my
 stupidity the second its too late to cancel the order.
 
 
 Why is it we always go for the worst outcome first?
 
 I have been building and testing a computer today and everything was going
 smoothly until it just turned off. Would not power up no matter what!
 


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Re: [Flexradio] Worst case scenario

2011-11-24 Thread Ralph W5JGV
 Usually at this stage its a sign I need to walk away because frustration
 will start to blind me.


It's just the universe telling you it's time to take a break from work...

G

73,

Ralph  W5JGV - WD2XSH/7

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Re: [Flexradio] Flex-1500 and USB 3.0?

2011-11-24 Thread Leif Asbrink
Hi Brian,
 
  I have tested the different parts of the delay with Linrad, and
  I have also tested PowerSDR on the fast computer. The delay I
  find with PowerSDR is what should be expexted. The delay depends
  on the ASIO buffer size and on the DSP buffer size. With both
  set to minimum the delay from antenna input to loudspeaker output
  is 13 milliseconds. Perfectly stable with no glitches regardless of
  what other programs I run simultaneously. Admittedly I have only
  nice softwares in the computer. Internet Explorer, Acrobat
  Reader, Notepad and a few others. None of them affects DPC
  latency regardless how heavy I use them to write to the hard
  disk.
 
 
 That seems about right. Your latency will increase as you increase the DSP
 buffer size so you will encounter a latency increase if you try to get
 sharper filters. That is a matter of personal choice.
Absolutely, that is why I placed a little table at the bottom
of the page I referred to.

DSP buffer Delay with  Delay with   
  size  128 ASIO   2048 ASIO
  (ms)(ms)
  256  13  48
  512  25  54
 1024  38  57
 2048 44(65)   62
 4096  76  95

The user can make his own compromise:-)

 Remember that the Flex radios do not depend on a sound card at all. The
 Flex 5000, 3000, and 1500 have their own built-in D:A and A:D for both the
 broadband (RF) side and the baseband (speaker) side. If you use those (as
 you should) there will be no significant additional delays as Flex uses
 isochronous transfers.
Well, as I have understood it, the Flex A/D and D/A are presented to the
Windows operating systems as sound devices. I do not know whether these
devices can be opened with MME drivers in PSDR, but if that is possible 
the user might want to do so in order to get an equalizer on the audio 
output. Those who want a fast response should use ASIO of course.

  Todays computers have the CPU power needed for really small
  latency. PSDR seems to use it well. Choosing a good soundcard
  may however be critical.
 
 
 The soundcard has no effect on the performance of the existing Flex Radio
 product offerings. Only the older and now obsolete SDR-1000 uses an
 external sound-card.
Well, PowerSDR is a Flex product that may be used with Softrock, Afedri SDR
and many other hardwares. I wrote my posting to the Flex mailing list
because of this posting:
 On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Brett Gazdzinski 
 brett.gazdzin...@verizon.net wrote:
 
  Well, what is the bottleneck/source of trouble?
  Slow cpu's?
  The ever changing operating system?
  The firewire/usb interface?
 
  It seems to me the weakest point most mentioned is latency on cw.
  Where does that come from? 

I have tried to make clear:
1) It does not come from the PowerSDR software package.
2) In case soundcards are used: The drive routines are likely
   to be a problem. (The Flex hardware is a soundcard as seen 
   by the operating system. I do not know whether it can be 
   opened with MME drivers.)
3) I do not think that Flex users would benefit from upgrading
   to the fastest modern computer. There were suggestions in 
   that direction in this discussion thread. 

I have followed this mailinglist for quite some time now. (Admittedly
not too carefully. I get about 150 mails every day...) I have seen one
single case where a specific program was said to cause a large value for
DPC latency. I looked for that program and decided it was to expensive
to buy just in order to find out whether it would cause a problem
on any of my computers.

DPC latency is the problem. As I understand it, the cause is 
one (or more) badly written drive routine(s). Interrupts are 
placed in a queue and if one of the items in the queue is using 
up too much time the response to the audio interrupt will be too
much delayed. One would have to set a big ASIO buffer to avoid
loss of data with a long delay as a consequence.

In case there is a DPC latency problem on your computer (and you
can not find what device is responsible) the solution is to get 
another computer. It does not have to be faster. The latency can 
be much smaller on a slower computer.

There are tools that would tell what device driver is responsible:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx
(I do not know how to use it)

It would be a good idea to list bad hardwares/device drivers
somewhere. Look here:
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/365525-what-dpc-latency.html
If you know any daw builder they know this topic like the back 
of their hands--they know what to use and the boatload of components 
to avoid (DAW=digital audio workstation.)

73

Leif / SM5BSZ


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Re: [Flexradio] Worst case scenario

2011-11-24 Thread DAN HAMMILL
Somewhat akin to spending an hour-plus looking all over the shack for that
one-and-only Phillips screwdriver that fits those ridiculously tiny screws
in a MIC connector - only to discover that it's been in one's hand the
entire time, but having no recollection as to how it got there.

73  Happy Thanksgiving!

Dan  KB5MY

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Neal Campbell abrohamn...@gmail.comwrote:

 I go there a lot and frequently! I end up with a large part inventory
 because my usual assumption is that the most expensive part is dead and
 immediately order a replacement to be overnighted in, only to discover my
 stupidity the second its too late to cancel the order.

 73

 On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Don kd...@sonic.net wrote:

  Neal
 
  Thanks, I needed a little smile right now, all I can say is Been there
  done that
  Besides if we all done everything correctly the first time - well
 wouldn't
  that be boring.
 
  Don, kd6hq
 
  -Original Message- From: Neal Campbell
  Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:31 AM
  To: FlexRadio List ; DXBase List
  Subject: [Flexradio] Worst case scenario
 
 
  Why is it we always go for the worst outcome first?
 
  I have been building and testing a computer today and everything was
 going
  smoothly until it just turned off. Would not power up no matter what!
 
  So, I unplug everything from the motherboard and bring out the PSU
 tester,
  which shows a bad power supply. So, I plug in the bench PSU and try the
  computer, no luck. So I put the power supply tester on the bench power
  supply and it shows dead.
 
  This is too much stuff dead but my first suspicion is that the PSU tester
  isn't good so I throw it away and look for my spare one (not found).
 
  Then I look down and see the power cord is not fully plugged in. AHA!
 
  So I unplug the  bench PSU and get the PSU tester out of the trash. Plug
  the original PSU back in, hit the power button and nothing happens! So I
  plug the PSU tester into the original PSU and still no reading. Well,
 maybe
  the original PSU really did die!
 
  So I am looking in inventory for a replacement PSU and see I have none
  available (the bench PSU is very underpowered for anything but testing).
  But, I figured, at least confirm the motherboard isn't dead so I plug in
  the bench PSU and hit the power button, nothing.
 
  Usually at this stage its a sign I need to walk away because frustration
  will start to blind me. So I push back my chair to leave and then see the
  power cord for the power outlet on my test bench has worked its way out
 of
  the power socket.
 
  Why didn't I check that at the beginning and save myself an hour of
  frustration and picking my PSU tester out of trash twice???
 
  At least its up and working normally again!
 
 
  73
 
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Re: [Flexradio] Worst case scenario

2011-11-24 Thread Tim Lemmon
I'd be a *huge* liar if I said this never happened to me!

:)

Tim, WK4U


On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Neal Campbell abrohamn...@gmail.comwrote:

 Why is it we always go for the worst outcome first?

 I have been building and testing a computer today and everything was going
 smoothly until it just turned off. Would not power up no matter what!

 So, I unplug everything from the motherboard and bring out the PSU tester,
 which shows a bad power supply. So, I plug in the bench PSU and try the
 computer, no luck. So I put the power supply tester on the bench power
 supply and it shows dead.

 This is too much stuff dead but my first suspicion is that the PSU tester
 isn't good so I throw it away and look for my spare one (not found).

 Then I look down and see the power cord is not fully plugged in. AHA!

 So I unplug the  bench PSU and get the PSU tester out of the trash. Plug
 the original PSU back in, hit the power button and nothing happens! So I
 plug the PSU tester into the original PSU and still no reading. Well, maybe
 the original PSU really did die!

 So I am looking in inventory for a replacement PSU and see I have none
 available (the bench PSU is very underpowered for anything but testing).
 But, I figured, at least confirm the motherboard isn't dead so I plug in
 the bench PSU and hit the power button, nothing.

 Usually at this stage its a sign I need to walk away because frustration
 will start to blind me. So I push back my chair to leave and then see the
 power cord for the power outlet on my test bench has worked its way out of
 the power socket.

 Why didn't I check that at the beginning and save myself an hour of
 frustration and picking my PSU tester out of trash twice???

 At least its up and working normally again!


 73

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Re: [Flexradio] Keyer out

2011-11-24 Thread Mike va3mw
You can measure them with a voltmeter.

Volts for open circuit and amperage for closed.

Then you will know for sure, although I'm not really sure why you are asking.

73, mike va3mw



On Nov 24, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Bill Dailey docdai...@gmail.com wrote:

 What are the spec on the keyer out plugs?  Voltage, polarity transmit and 
 receive.
 
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Re: [Flexradio] Worst case scenario

2011-11-24 Thread Mike va3mw
Lol Neal

I thought crap like that only happens to me!

Mike va3mw



On Nov 24, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Neal Campbell abrohamn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why is it we always go for the worst outcome first?
 
 I have been building and testing a computer today and everything was going
 smoothly until it just turned off. Would not power up no matter what!
 
 So, I unplug everything from the motherboard and bring out the PSU tester,
 which shows a bad power supply. So, I plug in the bench PSU and try the
 computer, no luck. So I put the power supply tester on the bench power
 supply and it shows dead.
 
 This is too much stuff dead but my first suspicion is that the PSU tester
 isn't good so I throw it away and look for my spare one (not found).
 
 Then I look down and see the power cord is not fully plugged in. AHA!
 
 So I unplug the  bench PSU and get the PSU tester out of the trash. Plug
 the original PSU back in, hit the power button and nothing happens! So I
 plug the PSU tester into the original PSU and still no reading. Well, maybe
 the original PSU really did die!
 
 So I am looking in inventory for a replacement PSU and see I have none
 available (the bench PSU is very underpowered for anything but testing).
 But, I figured, at least confirm the motherboard isn't dead so I plug in
 the bench PSU and hit the power button, nothing.
 
 Usually at this stage its a sign I need to walk away because frustration
 will start to blind me. So I push back my chair to leave and then see the
 power cord for the power outlet on my test bench has worked its way out of
 the power socket.
 
 Why didn't I check that at the beginning and save myself an hour of
 frustration and picking my PSU tester out of trash twice???
 
 At least its up and working normally again!
 
 
 73
 
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Re: [Flexradio] Optimized XP or Win7 Configuration

2011-11-24 Thread Robert McGwier
Install GBoost and let it do it for you. It is an awesome utility designed
for gamers and thus is perfect for us.

Bob
N4HY
 On Nov 23, 2011 12:47 PM, J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT w2...@att.net
wrote:

 Hi Folks!
 Is there a defined checklist of common Windows XP or 7 elements that need
 to
 be checked, adjusted, turned off, etc. to optimize the PC for use with the
 Flex?

 A how-to guide of this sort would be of great help, but I didn't see one
 around in the usual spots.  Am I missing something or is this not available
 in a consolidated package somewhere?

 Thanks  73,
 Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
 201.314.6964


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Re: [Flexradio] Optimized XP or Win7 Configuration

2011-11-24 Thread J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT
Bob et al,

Many thanks for the suggestion of GBoost!

Happy Thanksgiving!

 

Thanks  73,

Gordon Beattie, W2TTT

201.314.6964

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From: Robert McGwier [mailto:rwmcgw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 5:19 AM
To: J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT
Cc: flex-Radio E-Mail Reflector; Neal Campbell
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Optimized XP or Win7 Configuration

 

Install GBoost and let it do it for you. It is an awesome utility designed
for gamers and thus is perfect for us.

Bob
N4HY

On Nov 23, 2011 12:47 PM, J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT w2...@att.net
wrote:

Hi Folks!
Is there a defined checklist of common Windows XP or 7 elements that need to
be checked, adjusted, turned off, etc. to optimize the PC for use with the
Flex?

A how-to guide of this sort would be of great help, but I didn't see one
around in the usual spots.  Am I missing something or is this not available
in a consolidated package somewhere?

Thanks  73,
Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
201.314.6964


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[Flexradio] how to tune AMP with the flex5000a

2011-11-24 Thread paim
is any one know the best way to tune Amp with the flex 5000a ?


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