Re: [Flexradio] JT65 Recommendations?

2012-08-22 Thread Don

Tom, K1FR

JT65-HF works well, also look at JT-Alert and JT-Macros, they are helper 
porgrams.


Also check out this web pagehttp://www.obriensweb.com/sked/
It is a Help web page for LOTW and others.  Just click on "LOTW" on the far 
righ

hand side.

Don, kd6hq



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Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:39 PM
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Subject: [Flexradio] JT65 Recommendations?

Any "flexers" out there using JT65?  If so, I would appreciate
recommendations for software that works well with PowerSDR.  Thanks.

73, Tom
K1FR


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Re: [Flexradio] Lots of lightly used Flex Radios for sale.

2012-08-22 Thread Jay Nation

I know its none of our business but, Thanks for sharing!
Maybe, you meant to hit the delete button and not the Send button.
Zing ;)
73
Jay -- NO5J
On 8/22/2012 3:49 PM, amsct...@comcast.net wrote:

Or maybe, as in my case, a seller is simply going in a different direction.

I like(d) my 5000, but I am going to take some of my limited free time this 
winter and contribute some effort to a couple of open-source SDR projects. I 
don't need it (it being the 5K), am not going to use it and am not much 
interested in having things for the sake of having them. So off it goes to 
someone that will enjoy it as much as I have.

For the record: the 5000 is superb and the support from Flex has been 
top-notch. I have to say, however, that this is the first time in 
blah-blah-blah years online, involved with various (e.g. ham radio, sportbike) 
forums and mailing lists, that anyone (not the original poster of this thread) 
has ever emailed me directly to question my judgement in selling something that 
I bought and paid for with my own hard-earned money. It is, quite frankly, 
no-one's business but my own...and the same goes for anyone else selling, quite 
frankly, anything.

These conversations, and the speculation contained therein are fun, but being 
such a fan-boy of a consumer product that you feel you have to email someone to 
question their judgement should give a sane person pause.


Mike Alexander - N8MSA

amsct...@comcast.net

- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Greenlee" 
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:06:12 AM
Subject: [Flexradio] Lots of lightly used Flex Radios for sale.

This has been explained but may bear repeating/amplification.

Flex customer demographics include a high percentage of tech weenies and a
fair number of whatever is the latest greatest new shiny ball folks. Some
folks have to have the latest tech gadgets whether or not they understand
the technology. This is not to say that techies aren't interested if their
"wad" permits. The 5000 is still one of the best most capable radios
available for anywhere near its selling price. The new radios promise to be
EVEN MORE. So the folks who have to have the new shiny ball will bail on
the 5000 to get the next latest thing. Ditto the tech freaks to whom better
is worth a lot.

Hype aside, the "Game Changer" is an evolutionary change (likely a true
evolutionary LEAP) but still not a REVOLUTIONARY change. SDR was a
revolutionary change compared to the "traditional" hardware implementations
of radios.

Given you are shopping performance vs price you will find the 5000 to have
a better figure of merit (divide performance by price) than lots of
traditional radios, radios incorporating some DSP, and likely the new Flex
offerings too. Still if you want higher tech and better performance and are
willing to pay for it, the new Flex is the good deal. The cutting edge of
tech typically costs disproportionately more than a half step or more back
from the bleeding edge..

Tech doesn't stand still. Buyers of the NEW flex radios should savor the
moment (months/years) of superiority before Flex or some other outfit makes
another leap forward. It wasn't that long ago that the IBM PC booted from
floppies and ran a clock speed of 4.77 MHz and was THE thing nearly every
tech weenie wanted. Technological obsolescence comes at an ever accelerating
rate. It is the way of the world. Until or unless there are fundamental
changes in operating modes not conveniently handled by a 5000 They should
serve well for many more years. Collins S-Line gear still works well and
does what it always did. The 5000 may turn out to be the SDR equivalent.

73 Patrick AF5CK


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Re: [Flexradio] [FlexEdge] Lots of lightly used Flex Radios for sale.

2012-08-22 Thread Jay Nation

Ive already got several of those and likely will build a few more, all you nrrd 
is a couple of PCI/PCIE cards and you should be good to go for longer than I 
expect to need the adapters.
You can't take it with you...  I think that also applys to Flex, but make sure 
you take some QSL cards with you. We will need confirmation with DX like that.

73
 Jay -- NO5J
Tech Weenie and
proud Flex owner.

. On 8/22/2012 3:30 PM, Steven Hess wrote:

We only need a gigabit to firewire converter. Ethernet isn't going away soon.

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Dave Gomberg  wrote:

At 08:06 8/22/2012, Patrick Greenlee wrote on FlexRadio:


  Collins S-Line gear still works well and
does what it always did.  The 5000 may turn out to be the SDR equivalent.


I believe this will happen if Flex has the resources and the determination
to
make it happen by continuing to remove PSDR obstacles.  Flex can make itself
the next Collins or the next Heathkit (heavy on promises, light on
delivery).



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Re: [Flexradio] JT65 Recommendations?

2012-08-22 Thread Alan P. Biddle
Tom,

The JT65-HF implementation is a good one for HF.

Alan
WA4SCA
 

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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of TM
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:39 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] JT65 Recommendations?

Any "flexers" out there using JT65?  If so, I would appreciate
recommendations for software that works well with PowerSDR.  Thanks.

73, Tom
K1FR


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Re: [Flexradio] JT65 Recommendations?

2012-08-22 Thread Gedas

I am having a riot using WSJT for 2m EME and weak signal tropo.

Gedas, W8BYA
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:39 PM
Subject: [Flexradio] JT65 Recommendations?



Any "flexers" out there using JT65?  If so, I would appreciate
recommendations for software that works well with PowerSDR.  Thanks.

73, Tom
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[Flexradio] JT65 Recommendations?

2012-08-22 Thread TM
Any "flexers" out there using JT65?  If so, I would appreciate
recommendations for software that works well with PowerSDR.  Thanks.

73, Tom
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Re: [Flexradio] Lots of lightly used Flex Radios for sale.

2012-08-22 Thread amsctalx
Or maybe, as in my case, a seller is simply going in a different direction. 

I like(d) my 5000, but I am going to take some of my limited free time this 
winter and contribute some effort to a couple of open-source SDR projects. I 
don't need it (it being the 5K), am not going to use it and am not much 
interested in having things for the sake of having them. So off it goes to 
someone that will enjoy it as much as I have. 

For the record: the 5000 is superb and the support from Flex has been 
top-notch. I have to say, however, that this is the first time in 
blah-blah-blah years online, involved with various (e.g. ham radio, sportbike) 
forums and mailing lists, that anyone (not the original poster of this thread) 
has ever emailed me directly to question my judgement in selling something that 
I bought and paid for with my own hard-earned money. It is, quite frankly, 
no-one's business but my own...and the same goes for anyone else selling, quite 
frankly, anything. 

These conversations, and the speculation contained therein are fun, but being 
such a fan-boy of a consumer product that you feel you have to email someone to 
question their judgement should give a sane person pause. 


Mike Alexander - N8MSA 

amsct...@comcast.net 

- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Greenlee"  
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:06:12 AM 
Subject: [Flexradio] Lots of lightly used Flex Radios for sale. 

This has been explained but may bear repeating/amplification. 

Flex customer demographics include a high percentage of tech weenies and a 
fair number of whatever is the latest greatest new shiny ball folks. Some 
folks have to have the latest tech gadgets whether or not they understand 
the technology. This is not to say that techies aren't interested if their 
"wad" permits. The 5000 is still one of the best most capable radios 
available for anywhere near its selling price. The new radios promise to be 
EVEN MORE. So the folks who have to have the new shiny ball will bail on 
the 5000 to get the next latest thing. Ditto the tech freaks to whom better 
is worth a lot. 

Hype aside, the "Game Changer" is an evolutionary change (likely a true 
evolutionary LEAP) but still not a REVOLUTIONARY change. SDR was a 
revolutionary change compared to the "traditional" hardware implementations 
of radios. 

Given you are shopping performance vs price you will find the 5000 to have 
a better figure of merit (divide performance by price) than lots of 
traditional radios, radios incorporating some DSP, and likely the new Flex 
offerings too. Still if you want higher tech and better performance and are 
willing to pay for it, the new Flex is the good deal. The cutting edge of 
tech typically costs disproportionately more than a half step or more back 
from the bleeding edge.. 

Tech doesn't stand still. Buyers of the NEW flex radios should savor the 
moment (months/years) of superiority before Flex or some other outfit makes 
another leap forward. It wasn't that long ago that the IBM PC booted from 
floppies and ran a clock speed of 4.77 MHz and was THE thing nearly every 
tech weenie wanted. Technological obsolescence comes at an ever accelerating 
rate. It is the way of the world. Until or unless there are fundamental 
changes in operating modes not conveniently handled by a 5000 They should 
serve well for many more years. Collins S-Line gear still works well and 
does what it always did. The 5000 may turn out to be the SDR equivalent. 

73 Patrick AF5CK 


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Re: [Flexradio] Lots of lightly used Flex Radios for sale.

2012-08-22 Thread Jim Jannuzzo

"Gee our old LaSalle ran great!  Those were the days..."  Archie and Edith 
Bunker, circa 1970 
 > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:19:37 -0700
> From: w...@att.net
> To: k1...@yahoo.com; fishflor...@gmail.com
> CC: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Lots of lightly used Flex Radios for sale.
> 
> well, my 30+ yr old Osborne I was still working when i tossed 
> itfinally...73, w5xz, dan
>  cp/m, man that was 'fun'...
> --- On Wed, 8/22/12, Mickey Baker  wrote:
> 
> From: Mickey Baker 
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Lots of lightly used Flex Radios for sale.
> To: "Burt" 
> Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2012, 8:15 PM
> 
> The Flex 5000 will likely work 50 years from now, but who will have a
> machine with FireWire? That's going to be difficult in 5 years, much less
> 50!
> You can't get a notebook computer today (other than the MacBook Pro) that
> has it!
> 
> ...not to mention that Windows 7 machines will be hard to come by way
> before 2062!
> 
> 73,
> 
> Mickey N4MB
> 
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Burt  wrote:
> 
> > The Collins line works sixty years later, what about the Flex 5000?
> > Technology has it plusses and minuses
> >
> > --- On Wed, 8/22/12, Patrick Greenlee  wrote:
> >
> >
> > From.  Collins S-Line gear still works well and
> > does what it always did.  The 5000 may turn out to be the SDR equivalent.
> >
> > 73 Patrick AF5CK
> >
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Re: [Flexradio] [FlexEdge] Lots of lightly used Flex Radios for sale.

2012-08-22 Thread Steven Hess
We only need a gigabit to firewire converter. Ethernet isn't going away soon.

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Dave Gomberg  wrote:
> At 08:06 8/22/2012, Patrick Greenlee wrote on FlexRadio:
>
>>  Collins S-Line gear still works well and
>> does what it always did.  The 5000 may turn out to be the SDR equivalent.
>
>
> I believe this will happen if Flex has the resources and the determination
> to
> make it happen by continuing to remove PSDR obstacles.  Flex can make itself
> the next Collins or the next Heathkit (heavy on promises, light on
> delivery).
>
>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Lots of lightly used Flex Radios for sale.

2012-08-22 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Brian Lloyd  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Mickey Baker wrote:
>
>> The Flex 5000 will likely work 50 years from now, but who will have a
>> machine with FireWire? That's going to be difficult in 5 years, much less
>> 50!
>> You can't get a notebook computer today (other than the MacBook Pro) that
>> has it!
>>
>> ...not to mention that Windows 7 machines will be hard to come by way
>> before 2062!
>>
>
> What is wrong with the one you have that is working right now? Grab a
> couple spare motherboards if you are worried.
>
> And as for software, Windows XP will run just as well (or badly) 50 years
> from now on your new old-stock motherboard as it does today. If you want to
> keep your 5000 running for the next 50 years, it is eminently possible.
>

One more thing: keeping a KWM2 running depends on having a stock of tubes,
some of which are no longer produced.

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Re: [Flexradio] Lots of lightly used Flex Radios for sale.

2012-08-22 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Mickey Baker  wrote:

> The Flex 5000 will likely work 50 years from now, but who will have a
> machine with FireWire? That's going to be difficult in 5 years, much less
> 50!
> You can't get a notebook computer today (other than the MacBook Pro) that
> has it!
>
> ...not to mention that Windows 7 machines will be hard to come by way
> before 2062!
>

What is wrong with the one you have that is working right now? Grab a
couple spare motherboards if you are worried.

And as for software, Windows XP will run just as well (or badly) 50 years
from now on your new old-stock motherboard as it does today. If you want to
keep your 5000 running for the next 50 years, it is eminently possible.

-- 
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Re: [Flexradio] Lots of lightly used Flex Radios for sale.

2012-08-22 Thread dan edwards
well, my 30+ yr old Osborne I was still working when i tossed 
itfinally...73, w5xz, dan
 cp/m, man that was 'fun'...
--- On Wed, 8/22/12, Mickey Baker  wrote:

From: Mickey Baker 
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Lots of lightly used Flex Radios for sale.
To: "Burt" 
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2012, 8:15 PM

The Flex 5000 will likely work 50 years from now, but who will have a
machine with FireWire? That's going to be difficult in 5 years, much less
50!
You can't get a notebook computer today (other than the MacBook Pro) that
has it!

...not to mention that Windows 7 machines will be hard to come by way
before 2062!

73,

Mickey N4MB

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Burt  wrote:

> The Collins line works sixty years later, what about the Flex 5000?
> Technology has it plusses and minuses
>
> --- On Wed, 8/22/12, Patrick Greenlee  wrote:
>
>
> From.  Collins S-Line gear still works well and
> does what it always did.  The 5000 may turn out to be the SDR equivalent.
>
> 73 Patrick AF5CK
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Lots of lightly used Flex Radios for sale.

2012-08-22 Thread Mickey Baker
The Flex 5000 will likely work 50 years from now, but who will have a
machine with FireWire? That's going to be difficult in 5 years, much less
50!
You can't get a notebook computer today (other than the MacBook Pro) that
has it!

...not to mention that Windows 7 machines will be hard to come by way
before 2062!

73,

Mickey N4MB

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Burt  wrote:

> The Collins line works sixty years later, what about the Flex 5000?
> Technology has it plusses and minuses
>
> --- On Wed, 8/22/12, Patrick Greenlee  wrote:
>
>
> From.  Collins S-Line gear still works well and
> does what it always did.  The 5000 may turn out to be the SDR equivalent.
>
> 73 Patrick AF5CK
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Lots of lightly used Flex Radios for sale.

2012-08-22 Thread Burt
The Collins line works sixty years later, what about the Flex 5000?
Technology has it plusses and minuses

--- On Wed, 8/22/12, Patrick Greenlee  wrote:


From.  Collins S-Line gear still works well and
does what it always did.  The 5000 may turn out to be the SDR equivalent.

73 Patrick AF5CK


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[Flexradio] Lots of lightly used Flex Radios for sale.

2012-08-22 Thread Patrick Greenlee

This has been explained but may bear repeating/amplification.

Flex customer demographics include a high percentage of tech weenies and a
fair number of  whatever is the latest greatest new shiny ball folks.  Some
folks have to have the latest tech gadgets whether or not they understand
the technology. This is not to say that techies aren't interested if their
"wad" permits. The 5000 is still one of the best most capable radios
available for anywhere near its selling price.  The new radios promise to be
EVEN MORE.  So the folks who have to have the new shiny ball will bail on
the 5000 to get the next latest thing. Ditto the tech freaks to whom better
is worth a lot.

Hype aside, the  "Game Changer" is an evolutionary change (likely a true
evolutionary LEAP) but still not a REVOLUTIONARY  change. SDR was a
revolutionary change compared to the "traditional" hardware implementations
of radios.

Given you are shopping performance  vs price you will find the 5000 to have
a better figure of merit (divide performance by price) than lots of
traditional radios, radios incorporating some DSP, and likely the new Flex
offerings too.  Still if you want higher tech and better performance and are
willing to pay for it, the new Flex is the good deal.  The cutting edge of
tech typically costs disproportionately more than a half step or more back
from the bleeding edge..

Tech doesn't stand still.  Buyers of the NEW flex radios should savor the
moment (months/years) of superiority before Flex or some other outfit makes
another leap forward. It wasn't that long ago that the IBM PC booted from
floppies and ran a clock speed of 4.77 MHz and was THE thing nearly every
tech weenie wanted. Technological obsolescence comes at an ever accelerating
rate. It is the way of the world.  Until or unless there are fundamental
changes in operating modes not conveniently handled by a 5000 They should
serve well for many more years.  Collins S-Line gear still works well and
does what it always did.  The 5000 may turn out to be the SDR equivalent.

73 Patrick AF5CK


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[Flexradio] Virtual RF recordings with the 6000?

2012-08-22 Thread Jerry Flanders
Will we be able to make"Virtual RF" recordings with SmartSDR  and a 
6000 radio? I mean  like the I/Q recordings we can make now with 
PowerSDR and the current hardware?


Jerry W4UK


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