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Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings

2013-04-21 Thread Nige G7CNF




Copied and pasted from a much earlier post, settings which seem a good 
reference point.


All the best,

Nige.

Change PowerSDR settings after a new Database is loaded
DSP settings
NR  ANF Buffers NB  
40  68  409620  
30  50  2048NB2
15  25  15

73's

Bret
WX7Y




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Re: [Flexradio] Skins location 2.6.4?

2013-04-21 Thread Anton Iriawan


Skin located here c:\ProgramData\FlexradioSystems\PowerSDR\Skin

73
Anton - YB5QZ

-Original Message- 
From: Dan Baker

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:25 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Skins location 2.6.4?

I should have also added I am using Win 8 Pro

Thanks


On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Dan Baker  wrote:


Does anyone know where the skins are located in 2.6.4?

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Re: [Flexradio] Skins location 2.6.4?

2013-04-21 Thread Dan Baker

I should have also added I am using Win 8 Pro

Thanks


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> Does anyone know where the skins are located in 2.6.4?
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> Thanks,   Dan
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[Flexradio] Skins location 2.6.4?

2013-04-21 Thread Dan Baker

Does anyone know where the skins are located in 2.6.4?

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Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings

2013-04-21 Thread Lee Mushel



I just had a very strange thought.   Do you suppose that if there was one 
"optimum" setting for all the processing controls it would still be 
necessary to have the full console graphic user interface?   I would think 
we could do away with all of that adjustment business and just tune 
frequency and mode to our hearts content!


I must be wasting a lot of time changing control values trying to,  and 
often successfully at that,  optimize signals under different circumstances.


73

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Hi there Terry. Thank you very much for jumping in on this topic. So far I am
with you in every way. I have been given several different opinions on values
to use and will try them out soon. ref the external DSP unit, I was kind of
hoping that the Flex would be able to perform any kind of DSP needed to
accomplish the required NR. But, in all fairness, even my ole FT-1000 MP NR
really stinks. I have yet to find one time where I thought it made the signal
easier to copy, IMO. TU agn es 73.

Oh, CU on 2m SSB hi-hi

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- Original Message -
From: Terry Maurice
To: W8BYA
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings

Hi Gedas

I have tried just about every combination of the NR parameters and have only
succeeded in creating a more distorted and basically unlistenable sound.
Reducing AGC-T is much more effective in reducing noise, but you also lose some
sensitivity. With all the other sophisticated capabilities of the PowerSDR
software, the NR is surely one of the more disappointing features. With the
signal in the digital domain the software should be capable of much better
noise reduction than is presently available.

I have had much better luck with post rig processing, using a BHI Neim1031
Mark II processor. These units are made in the UK.
http://www.bhi-ltd.com/index.php/products/noise-cancellation-products/noise-cancelling-in-line-modules/neim1031-mkii.html?view=item&layout=item
This unit connects to the audio output of the Flex and is very successful in
reducing background noise. It has 8 stepwise levels of noise reduction and a
built in amplifier that is very effective. This same unit is available in the
US through GAP Antennas and known as "Hear It"
http://www.gapantenna.com/hearit_inline.htm This is the same unit as the BHI
but with the controls oriented horizontally rather than vertically. It is a
very effective unit especially for weak signal work.

Terry

On 20/04/2013 10:43, W8BYA wrote:

I was playing around with the NR function on my 5000A (V2.5.3) for the first
time trying different settings of Taps, Gain, Delay, & Leak. I was not having
much luck blindly running numbers up and down. I was wondering if anyone had a
source of information that they could point to that talked about what those
various parameters were and how they might affect the overall NR function etc?
Or possibly if someone has found a set of numbers that worked well for them in
certain noisy instances that would be interesting to discussTU es 73

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Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings

2013-04-21 Thread W8BYA

Bob had suggested these values to me earlier:

Taps 64
Delay, the largest you can set it to
Start gain 10
Start leakage 1

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Ernest Garcia 
  To: n4hy ; ve3...@execulink.com 
  Cc: flexradio 
  Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings


  Well,   Don't keep us in suspense...  What are the values?73, Ernest - 
W4EG
   > Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:52:26 -0400
  > From: n...@flex-radio.com
  > To: ve3...@execulink.com
  > CC: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
  > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings
  > 
  > I usually find a combination of AGC-T and NR produces best results. 
  > 
  > Bob
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
  > 
  >  Original message 
  > From: Terry Maurice  
  > Date: 04/21/2013  10:34 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
  > To: Bob McGwier  
  > Cc: W8BYA ,"" 
 
  > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings 
  >  
  > Hi Bob
  > 
  > I tried the settings you suggested but the sound was very distorted.  Is 
there some other setting that I should be using in conjunction with your 
suggested settings?
  > 
  > Terry
  > 
  > 
  > On 21/04/2013 09:32, Bob McGwier wrote:
  > Try these
  > 
  > Taps 64
  > Delay, the largest you can set it to
  > Start gain 10
  > Start leakage 1
  > 
  > 
  > Sent from my iPad
  > 
  > On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:43 AM, "W8BYA"  wrote:
  > 
  > I was playing around with the NR function on my 5000A (V2.5.3) for the 
first time trying different settings of Taps, Gain, Delay, & Leak.  I was not 
having much luck blindly running numbers up and down.  I was wondering if 
anyone had a source of information that they could point to that talked about 
what those various parameters were and how they might affect the overall NR 
function etc?  Or possibly if someone has found a set of numbers that worked 
well for them in certain noisy instances that would be interesting to 
discussTU es 73
  > 
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Re: [Flexradio] [FlexEdge] Visalia DX Conference - Youtube Video - Flex 6700 in Action

2013-04-21 Thread Ernest Garcia

Dr. White, I was not able to make Visalia this year.  However, I appreciate 
your video that I will check later. I particularly enjoy your comments:"Real 
World Performance...
Several times we had Armchair copy in QSO's with Hams who had could barely copy 
our signals due to their poor antennas and outdated equipment
We definitely could easily copy the very weak DX Stations..."I am looking 
forward to receiving my F6.7K. Thank you again and 73 and look forward to see 
how you and others make use of this radio. Ernest W4EG
  
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[Flexradio] Visalia DX Conference - Youtube Video - Flex 6700 in Action

2013-04-21 Thread Dr. Howard S. White

I have posted a video of the Visalia DX Convention with the First Public 
Demonstration of the Flex 6700

http://youtu.be/vLXjL6hoIYg

Not too much about the Convention but mostly the radio in operation...

The Flex 6700 radio was definitely working but clearly it was a beta test unit.

I did manage to crash the software at least once and many features are yet to 
be fully operational.

For the uninitiated... the radio software is now a simple browse that does NOT 
need a major computer system
All the processing is now done inside the radio with its own computer power...
it should even ultimately be able to run on your iPad or other simple device...

Interestingly it was interfaced directly to N1MM Contest Logger, a SteppIR 
DB-18 and an Alpha 9500 so it clearly was set up for contesting.
While I am not the contest Ultra Maven... I personally found the clean simple 
interface much more intuitive for contesting than my Flex 5000
as you really never need to have your hands leave the logger keyboard.  I can 
see where the Flex will finally be more than competitive, if not excel the K3 
for contests.

In spite of the limitations of the beta test software, the receiver performance 
was astounding.
It appeared that the radio was hearing down to -142dBm (or about S0 - 15db or 
almost 2 ½ S Units below S0)
BUT what was more astounding was that they introduced DSP gain into the system 
so that it could hear down to -149 dBm or about the phase noise levels.  I am 
not sure how to measure down to those levels as the thermal noise in my test 
equipment is higher than that. (The figures are un-calibrated- we will see what 
Sherwood says)

Adjacent Channel rejection appeared be out of the worldyou could totally 
block an S9+40db signal 100Hz away.
This would be especially important in multi-stations  AND you do not Need 
to use any Roofing Filters

Of course it was really cool to be able to listen to several slices of the band 
at the same time and easily jump from band to band without losing any 
information.
They had 4 spectral operational but could only receive on 2 slices... (It will 
be 8 slices in the final model)


Real World Performance...
Several times we had Armchair copy in QSO's with Hams who had could barely copy 
our signals due to their poor antennas and outdated equipment
We definitely could easily copy the very weak DX Stations...

Although I am not a CW Operator .. The CW ops I talked to said it was full QSK 
with no delays whatsoever...


Delivery
Flex said they hoped to ship production units within 30 days (maybe by Dayton 
anyone?) however I am skeptical that they can get everything 100% by then as 
clearly there is still a lot of software to get right.   I suspect that in 
order to meet that tight schedule, they will ship the first units with a 
reduced feature set. The good thing about a SDR is that you can easily 
upgrade in a matter of seconds.

Bottom Line:
When I read the specs and placed my order at Dayton 2012, I knew that this was 
going to be the radio that will set the bar for the next standard in Ham Radio

However, I was personally astounded by the performance which even in Beta far 
exceeded my expectations.





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Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings

2013-04-21 Thread Ernest Garcia

Well,   Don't keep us in suspense...  What are the values?73, Ernest - W4EG
 > Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:52:26 -0400
> From: n...@flex-radio.com
> To: ve3...@execulink.com
> CC: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings
> 
> I usually find a combination of AGC-T and NR produces best results. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Terry Maurice  
> Date: 04/21/2013  10:34 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
> To: Bob McGwier  
> Cc: W8BYA ,"" 
>  
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings 
>  
> Hi Bob
> 
> I tried the settings you suggested but the sound was very distorted.  Is 
> there some other setting that I should be using in conjunction with your 
> suggested settings?
> 
> Terry
> 
> 
> On 21/04/2013 09:32, Bob McGwier wrote:
> Try these
> 
> Taps 64
> Delay, the largest you can set it to
> Start gain 10
> Start leakage 1
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:43 AM, "W8BYA"  wrote:
> 
> I was playing around with the NR function on my 5000A (V2.5.3) for the first 
> time trying different settings of Taps, Gain, Delay, & Leak.  I was not 
> having much luck blindly running numbers up and down.  I was wondering if 
> anyone had a source of information that they could point to that talked about 
> what those various parameters were and how they might affect the overall NR 
> function etc?  Or possibly if someone has found a set of numbers that worked 
> well for them in certain noisy instances that would be interesting to 
> discussTU es 73
> 
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Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings

2013-04-21 Thread n4hy

I usually find a combination of AGC-T and NR produces best results. 

Bob



Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

 Original message 
From: Terry Maurice  
Date: 04/21/2013  10:34 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Bob McGwier  
Cc: W8BYA ,"" 
 
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings 
 
Hi Bob

I tried the settings you suggested but the sound was very distorted.  Is there 
some other setting that I should be using in conjunction with your suggested 
settings?

Terry


On 21/04/2013 09:32, Bob McGwier wrote:
Try these

Taps 64
Delay, the largest you can set it to
Start gain 10
Start leakage 1


Sent from my iPad

On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:43 AM, "W8BYA"  wrote:

I was playing around with the NR function on my 5000A (V2.5.3) for the first 
time trying different settings of Taps, Gain, Delay, & Leak.  I was not having 
much luck blindly running numbers up and down.  I was wondering if anyone had a 
source of information that they could point to that talked about what those 
various parameters were and how they might affect the overall NR function etc?  
Or possibly if someone has found a set of numbers that worked well for them in 
certain noisy instances that would be interesting to discussTU es 73

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Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings

2013-04-21 Thread Edwin Marzan

The PowerSDR Console is a bit cluttered but it would be nice if one could 
adjust the settings on the fly while listening to the noise by using a set of 
sliders. One could then save these settings into memory to be recalled whenever 
the offending noise is present...

> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:34:07 -0400
> From: ve3...@execulink.com
> To: n...@flex-radio.com
> CC: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings
> 
> Hi Bob
> 
> I tried the settings you suggested but the sound was very distorted.  Is 
> there some other setting that I should be using in conjunction with your 
> suggested settings?
> 
> Terry
> 
> 
> On 21/04/2013 09:32, Bob McGwier wrote:
> > Try these
> >
> > Taps 64
> > Delay, the largest you can set it to
> > Start gain 10
> > Start leakage 1
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:43 AM, "W8BYA"  wrote:
> >
> >> I was playing around with the NR function on my 5000A (V2.5.3) for the 
> >> first time trying different settings of Taps, Gain, Delay, & Leak.  I was 
> >> not having much luck blindly running numbers up and down.  I was wondering 
> >> if anyone had a source of information that they could point to that talked 
> >> about what those various parameters were and how they might affect the 
> >> overall NR function etc?  Or possibly if someone has found a set of 
> >> numbers that worked well for them in certain noisy instances that would be 
> >> interesting to discussTU es 73
> >>
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Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings

2013-04-21 Thread Terry Maurice


Hi Bob

I tried the settings you suggested but the sound was very distorted.  Is 
there some other setting that I should be using in conjunction with your 
suggested settings?


Terry


On 21/04/2013 09:32, Bob McGwier wrote:

Try these

Taps 64
Delay, the largest you can set it to
Start gain 10
Start leakage 1


Sent from my iPad

On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:43 AM, "W8BYA"  wrote:


I was playing around with the NR function on my 5000A (V2.5.3) for the first time 
trying different settings of Taps, Gain, Delay, & Leak.  I was not having much 
luck blindly running numbers up and down.  I was wondering if anyone had a source 
of information that they could point to that talked about what those various 
parameters were and how they might affect the overall NR function etc?  Or possibly 
if someone has found a set of numbers that worked well for them in certain noisy 
instances that would be interesting to discussTU es 73

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Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings

2013-04-21 Thread Terry Maurice

Hi Gedas

I have tried just about every combination of the NR parameters and have
only succeeded in creating a more distorted and basically unlistenable
sound. Reducing AGC-T is much more effective in reducing noise, but you
also lose some sensitivity. With all the other sophisticated
capabilities of the PowerSDR software, the NR is surely one of the more
disappointing features. With the signal in the digital domain the
software should be capable of much better noise reduction than is
presently available.

I have had much better luck with post rig processing, using a BHI
Neim1031 Mark II processor. These units are made in the UK.
http://www.bhi-ltd.com/index.php/products/noise-cancellation-products/noise-cancelling-in-line-modules/neim1031-mkii.html?view=item&layout=item
This unit connects to the audio output of the Flex and is very
successful in reducing background noise. It has 8 stepwise levels of
noise reduction and a built in amplifier that is very effective. This
same unit is available in the US through GAP Antennas and known as "Hear
It" http://www.gapantenna.com/hearit_inline.htm This is the same unit
as the BHI but with the controls oriented horizontally rather than
vertically. It is a very effective unit especially for weak signal work.

Terry

On 20/04/2013 10:43, W8BYA wrote:

I was playing around with the NR function on my 5000A (V2.5.3) for the first time
trying different settings of Taps, Gain, Delay, & Leak. I was not having much
luck blindly running numbers up and down. I was wondering if anyone had a source
of information that they could point to that talked about what those various
parameters were and how they might affect the overall NR function etc? Or possibly
if someone has found a set of numbers that worked well for them in certain noisy
instances that would be interesting to discussTU es 73

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Re: [Flexradio] FLEX-6700 to be used for the N6V Special Event Station

2013-04-21 Thread Bob McGwier

The best receiver I've ever sat down in front of is my opinion.  I hear signals 
I can't hear with others I have or hear much more clearly. I don't have lab 
equipment that can measure it so this can only be anecdotal.

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 20, 2013, at 2:30 PM, "Mike Sch. (IMAP Acct.)"  wrote:

> N6V is now on 14.268 Mhz; I snagged him, he gave me a 5-9, and I gave him a 
> 5-8.  He is running POWER, and I am at 100 watts with a 75 meter loop at 20 
> feet, just for info.  That must be SOME RECEIVER in the Flex-6700!!
> 73;   -Mike-   KØJTA
> 
> On 4/20/13 12:00 PM [Apr 20], flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote:
>> FLEX-6700 to be used for the N6V Special Event Station
> 
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Re: [Flexradio] NR Settings

2013-04-21 Thread Bob McGwier

Try these

Taps 64
Delay, the largest you can set it to
Start gain 10
Start leakage 1


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On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:43 AM, "W8BYA"  wrote:

> I was playing around with the NR function on my 5000A (V2.5.3) for the first 
> time trying different settings of Taps, Gain, Delay, & Leak.  I was not 
> having much luck blindly running numbers up and down.  I was wondering if 
> anyone had a source of information that they could point to that talked about 
> what those various parameters were and how they might affect the overall NR 
> function etc?  Or possibly if someone has found a set of numbers that worked 
> well for them in certain noisy instances that would be interesting to 
> discussTU es 73
> 
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