Re: [Flexradio] OK, I messed up, and I admit it

[Mark Lunday]

LOL, I got it.  It's the button that the "cop" on frequency was saying!
"SPLIT!"

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Greensboro, NC  FM06be
wd4...@arrl.net
http://wd4elg.blogspot.com


_
From: Mark Lunday [mailto:wd4...@triad.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:10 PM
To: 'flexra...@yahoogroups.com'; 'flexradio@flex-radio.biz'
Subject: OK, I messed up, and I admit it


Was trying to use diversity receive on a split pileup on my Flex 5K with 2nd
rcvr, and accidentally transmitted on top of the DX.

So.how do I use both receivers (with Sync ON) in diversity mode and use the
mouse to click the transmit frequency for where the DX is listening?  I
don't want to use the XIT.

I must be tired, because I just can't figure it out.

Thanks in advance.

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Greensboro, NC  FM06be
wd4...@arrl.net
http://wd4elg.blogspot.com


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[Flexradio] OK, I messed up, and I admit it

[Mark Lunday]

Was trying to use diversity receive on a split pileup on my Flex 5K with 2nd
rcvr, and accidentally transmitted on top of the DX.

So.how do I use both receivers (with Sync ON) in diversity mode and use the
mouse to click the transmit frequency for where the DX is listening?  I
don't want to use the XIT.

I must be tired, because I just can't figure it out.

Thanks in advance.

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Greensboro, NC  FM06be
wd4...@arrl.net
http://wd4elg.blogspot.com


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Re: [Flexradio] FlexKnob Lag Persists

[Neal Campbell]

Harry

here is the story on why having Spur Reduction On provides the best
response time.
http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50380.aspx?Keywords=spur

Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal LLC




On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Harry Kosterman
wrote:

> Hi Neal,
> To see what we are seeing, you need to be in cw.  This is my main mode.
> First, try moving around with the step size at 10 Hz with spur reduction
> on.  Pan around, the response is virtually instantaneous.
> Second, turn spur reduction off and try panning around again.  The
> spectrum update has a noticeable lag.
> If spur reduction requires more CPU horse power, I would expect the
> opposite.
> Best regards,
> Harry VA3EC
>
>
> On Thursday, March 13, 2014, Neal Campbell  wrote:
>
>> Peter
>>
>> Remember that you will not see the panadapter move when you do fast
>> tuning via the flexcontrol/mouse wheel when spur reduction is off. Could
>> you just be seeing that?
>> 73
>>
>> Neal Campbell
>> Abroham Neal LLC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Peter West  wrote:
>>
>>> Now if we can figure out what's causing my FlexKnob to lag when used
>>> with my 3000 (on a I7-quad core computer running 2% CPU) and works
>>> flawlessly with my 1500 I'd be mighty grateful. I've ripped out everything
>>> in device manager and moved the ports around as well as changing the fifo
>>> buffer settings. I changed the FireWire card to an express model and
>>> changed the cable. Spur reduction on helps a lot. And while the standard
>>> mouse is affected it's not as obvious as the lag when using the knob. VA3EC
>>> who has a similar setup is having the same lag issue.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Peter - VE3HG
>>> VE3HG Blog
>>> Follow VE3HG On Twitter
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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Re: [Flexradio] fkex 6500

[Graham Haddock]

Jim:
On the internet, they hang out on the Flex Community.

https://community.flexradio.com/flexradio

--- Graham / KE9H

==


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Jim Howard  wrote:

> Where do the people with the new flexs, 6500/6700
> hang out.
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Re: [Flexradio] fkex 6500

[K8MLM]

There are a number of that hang out on 14.185.
 
Bob
K8MLM
 
 
In a message dated 3/18/2014 5:19:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jimhoward1...@gmail.com writes:

Where do  the people with the new flexs, 6500/6700
hang  out.
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[Flexradio] fkex 6500

[Jim Howard]

Where do the people with the new flexs, 6500/6700
hang out.
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Re: [Flexradio] Using Digital Master 780 with Flex 5000a

[Keith Watson]

Thanks for all the advise guys. I will upgrade to 4.12 and see if we are
still good.

Keith...


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Tim Ellison, W4TME wrote:

> If I remember correctly, there was a code change in 4.12 that fixed a
> threading bug that made VAC work more efficiently on multi-core CPUs.  But
> that was the only significant change between 4.11 and 4.12 that would
> affect PowerSDR usage.
>
>
> Tim Ellison, W4TME
> Customer Experience Manager
> FlexRadio Systems(tm)
>
> 4616 W Howard Ln, Suite 1-150
> Austin, TX 78728
> Phone: 512-535-4713 Ext. 223
> Email: t...@flexradio.com 
> Web: www.flexradio.com 
>
> logo
> On 3/18/2014 12:36 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:
>
>> I have found 4.011 to be pretty good also!
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Neal Campbell
>> Abroham Neal LLC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Tim Ellison, W4TME 
>> > t...@flex-radio.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree that there have been a lot of reports of issues with
>> v4.13, but I think you went too farin your down grade.  Get v4.12
>> and try it.  V4.09 uses an interrupt method for processing the
>> audio datarather than the streaming method introduced in 4.10 and
>> in my humble opinion, perfected in v4.12. There is better (lower)
>> latency with v4.12
>>
>> If you need help creating the VAC cable definitions, then you can
>> use this registry file to create 7 VAC channels (6 is the max you
>> can use with a 5000+RX2 and a 1500 running on the same PC and 1
>> channel to use as the Windows default sound device if your PC does
>> not have a sound card or is one where the input/output lines are
>> not active unless you have something plugged into it)
>>
>> http://support.flex-radio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=396
>>
>>
>> Tim Ellison, W4TME
>> Customer Experience Manager
>> FlexRadio Systems(tm)
>>
>> 4616 W Howard Ln, Suite 1-150
>> Austin, TX 78728
>> Phone: 512-535-4713 Ext. 223 
>> Email: t...@flexradio.com 
>> >
>>
>> Web: www.flexradio.com 
>> 
>>
>> logo
>> On 3/15/2014 11:28 AM, Keith Watson wrote:
>>
>> Well, I believe I figured it out. It turns out it does not
>> have anything to
>> do with DDUtil after all. Paul Van Dyck, ON7VD, suggested I
>> downgrade VAC
>> 4.13 to version 4.09. This seems to have done the trick. It is
>> not entirely
>> clear why the copy in PSK was better when I was not running
>> DDUtil, but
>> there was a significant difference. Although, I always had my
>> doubts that
>> even without DDUtil running, the copy was still not up to par.
>> I still have
>> some more testing to do, but it looks like Paul solved this
>> one for me.
>> Thanks to everyone for your suggestions.
>>
>> Keith...
>> N9TX
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Keith Watson
>> mailto:ke...@keithwatson.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> I do understand the relationship of the HRD server and the
>> other HRD
>> applications. Yes, I do have that checked in DDUtil. All
>> the pieces are
>> working together. It is just that the copy from PSK from
>> any of the digital
>> apps is terrible.
>>
>> Keith...
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Robert Guertin
>> mailto:rguert...@gmail.com>>wrote:
>>
>>
>> Keith, I ran DM780 with a 5000 having not had one bit
>> of trouble doing it.
>> Here is what I used:
>> VAC 4.12 (virtual audio cables)
>> VSPE (Eterlogic virtual port software)
>> DDUtil Ver 3.0 (communicates between PSDR and DM-780,
>> radio frequency and
>> turn on HRD server)
>>
>> I've been following your dilemma for a couple of days
>> and I have never
>> heard you talk about the HRD server. In DDUtil v3
>> there is a check off
>> that allows you to turn it on. Without it turned on
>> DM-780 doesn't know
>> what to do. Don't forget DM-780 was never designed to
>> be stand alone, it
>> requires HRD to be running to make it work. The server.
>>
>> Goog Luck,
>> Bob, W1GLV
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: FlexRadio
>> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
>> ] On Behalf Of
>> Keith
>> Watson
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014

[Flexradio] LOOKING FOR A 5000A

[wt4t]

  So far 3 offers and all of them scams. so I will try again. 
Looking for a 5000a with a tuner ,just a basic rig.Not interested in the second 
tuner or other upgrades. Needs to have the new revision board , started in 
2009. no smoke and with the firewire,power cable and what ever else came with 
it. Really would like to have the original shipping box.
Will consider any and all offers.
thanks
dale wt4t
239 283 2665


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Re: [Flexradio] Using Digital Master 780 with Flex 5000a

[Tim Ellison, W4TME]

If I remember correctly, there was a code change in 4.12 that fixed a 
threading bug that made VAC work more efficiently on multi-core CPUs.  
But that was the only significant change between 4.11 and 4.12 that 
would affect PowerSDR usage.


Tim Ellison, W4TME
Customer Experience Manager
FlexRadio Systems™
4616 W Howard Ln, Suite 1-150
Austin, TX 78728
Phone: 512-535-4713 Ext. 223
Email: t...@flexradio.com 
Web: www.flexradio.com 

logo
On 3/18/2014 12:36 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:

I have found 4.011 to be pretty good also!

73

Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal LLC




On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Tim Ellison, W4TME 
mailto:t...@flex-radio.com>> wrote:


I agree that there have been a lot of reports of issues with
v4.13, but I think you went too farin your down grade.  Get v4.12
and try it.  V4.09 uses an interrupt method for processing the
audio datarather than the streaming method introduced in 4.10 and
in my humble opinion, perfected in v4.12. There is better (lower)
latency with v4.12

If you need help creating the VAC cable definitions, then you can
use this registry file to create 7 VAC channels (6 is the max you
can use with a 5000+RX2 and a 1500 running on the same PC and 1
channel to use as the Windows default sound device if your PC does
not have a sound card or is one where the input/output lines are
not active unless you have something plugged into it)

http://support.flex-radio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=396


Tim Ellison, W4TME
Customer Experience Manager
FlexRadio Systems™
4616 W Howard Ln, Suite 1-150
Austin, TX 78728
Phone: 512-535-4713 Ext. 223 
Email: t...@flexradio.com 
>
Web: www.flexradio.com 


logo
On 3/15/2014 11:28 AM, Keith Watson wrote:

Well, I believe I figured it out. It turns out it does not
have anything to
do with DDUtil after all. Paul Van Dyck, ON7VD, suggested I
downgrade VAC
4.13 to version 4.09. This seems to have done the trick. It is
not entirely
clear why the copy in PSK was better when I was not running
DDUtil, but
there was a significant difference. Although, I always had my
doubts that
even without DDUtil running, the copy was still not up to par.
I still have
some more testing to do, but it looks like Paul solved this
one for me.
Thanks to everyone for your suggestions.

Keith...
N9TX


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Keith Watson
mailto:ke...@keithwatson.com>> wrote:

Hi Bob,

I do understand the relationship of the HRD server and the
other HRD
applications. Yes, I do have that checked in DDUtil. All
the pieces are
working together. It is just that the copy from PSK from
any of the digital
apps is terrible.

Keith...


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Robert Guertin
mailto:rguert...@gmail.com>>wrote:

Keith, I ran DM780 with a 5000 having not had one bit
of trouble doing it.
Here is what I used:
VAC 4.12 (virtual audio cables)
VSPE (Eterlogic virtual port software)
DDUtil Ver 3.0 (communicates between PSDR and DM-780,
radio frequency and
turn on HRD server)

I've been following your dilemma for a couple of days
and I have never
heard you talk about the HRD server. In DDUtil v3
there is a check off
that allows you to turn it on. Without it turned on
DM-780 doesn't know
what to do. Don't forget DM-780 was never designed to
be stand alone, it
requires HRD to be running to make it work. The server.

Goog Luck,
Bob, W1GLV

-Original Message-
From: FlexRadio
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
] On Behalf Of
Keith
Watson
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:30 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz

Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Using Digital Master 780 with
Flex 5000a

Everything I have done to test still points to DDUtil.
I am running the
current version of DDUtil 3. The computer is a Dell
Optiplex 745 with a
Core 2 Duo running at 2.4GHz and 4GB of memory. The OS
is Window

Re: [Flexradio] Using Digital Master 780 with Flex 5000a

[Neal Campbell]

I have found 4.011 to be pretty good also!

73

Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal LLC




On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Tim Ellison, W4TME wrote:

> I agree that there have been a lot of reports of issues with v4.13, but I
> think you went too farin your down grade.  Get v4.12 and try it.  V4.09
> uses an interrupt method for processing the audio datarather than the
> streaming method introduced in 4.10 and in my humble opinion, perfected in
> v4.12. There is better (lower) latency with v4.12
>
> If you need help creating the VAC cable definitions, then you can use this
> registry file to create 7 VAC channels (6 is the max you can use with a
> 5000+RX2 and a 1500 running on the same PC and 1 channel to use as the
> Windows default sound device if your PC does not have a sound card or is
> one where the input/output lines are not active unless you have something
> plugged into it)
>
> http://support.flex-radio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=396
>
>
> Tim Ellison, W4TME
> Customer Experience Manager
> FlexRadio Systems(tm)
> 4616 W Howard Ln, Suite 1-150
> Austin, TX 78728
> Phone: 512-535-4713 Ext. 223
> Email: t...@flexradio.com 
> Web: www.flexradio.com 
>
> logo
> On 3/15/2014 11:28 AM, Keith Watson wrote:
>
>> Well, I believe I figured it out. It turns out it does not have anything
>> to
>> do with DDUtil after all. Paul Van Dyck, ON7VD, suggested I downgrade VAC
>> 4.13 to version 4.09. This seems to have done the trick. It is not
>> entirely
>> clear why the copy in PSK was better when I was not running DDUtil, but
>> there was a significant difference. Although, I always had my doubts that
>> even without DDUtil running, the copy was still not up to par. I still
>> have
>> some more testing to do, but it looks like Paul solved this one for me.
>> Thanks to everyone for your suggestions.
>>
>> Keith...
>> N9TX
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Keith Watson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Bob,
>>>
>>> I do understand the relationship of the HRD server and the other HRD
>>> applications. Yes, I do have that checked in DDUtil. All the pieces are
>>> working together. It is just that the copy from PSK from any of the
>>> digital
>>> apps is terrible.
>>>
>>> Keith...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Robert Guertin >> >wrote:
>>>
>>>  Keith, I ran DM780 with a 5000 having not had one bit of trouble doing
 it.
 Here is what I used:
 VAC 4.12 (virtual audio cables)
 VSPE (Eterlogic virtual port software)
 DDUtil Ver 3.0 (communicates between PSDR and DM-780, radio frequency
 and
 turn on HRD server)

 I've been following your dilemma for a couple of days and I have never
 heard you talk about the HRD server. In DDUtil v3 there is a check off
 that allows you to turn it on. Without it turned on DM-780 doesn't know
 what to do. Don't forget DM-780 was never designed to be stand alone, it
 requires HRD to be running to make it work. The server.

 Goog Luck,
 Bob, W1GLV

 -Original Message-
 From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of
 Keith
 Watson
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:30 AM
 To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Using Digital Master 780 with Flex 5000a

 Everything I have done to test still points to DDUtil. I am running the
 current version of DDUtil 3. The computer is a Dell Optiplex 745 with a
 Core 2 Duo running at 2.4GHz and 4GB of memory. The OS is Windows 7
 Ultumate 64bit. I use Com0Com. Not sure how to tell what version it is,
 but
 it was recently downloaded from the website, so it should be current.
 Not
 really seeing a problem with DPCs that I know of. When checked, it is
 usually around 1200. Operating mode is set to normal, and buffers are
 all
 set to the default.

 I have seen this symptom with DM780, FLDigi, and MMVARI. When testing
 DM780
 without using DDUtil, it copies just fine.

 Keith...


 On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Neal Campbell 
 wrote:

  I have seen 2 instances where DDU was drawing excessive CPU utilization
> (like 90%) and it obviously was stressing the system to the point that
> anything with a DPC had to wait a long while to getr control back.
>
> I replaced DDU2 with DDU3 and the problems were fixed.
>
> 73
>
> Neal Campbell
> Abroham Neal LLC
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Keith Watson
>
 wrote:

> Is it possible that DDUtil could be involved with this issue? When I
>> bypass
>> DDUtil, everything seems to work as expected. However, I can't
>>
> understand

> how this utility would cause a problem with the audio.
>>
>> Keith...
>> N9TX
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Bret Mills 
>>
> wrote:

> Maker sure your

Re: [Flexradio] Using Digital Master 780 with Flex 5000a

[Tim Ellison, W4TME]

I agree that there have been a lot of reports of issues with v4.13, but 
I think you went too farin your down grade.  Get v4.12 and try it.  
V4.09 uses an interrupt method for processing the audio datarather than 
the streaming method introduced in 4.10 and in my humble opinion, 
perfected in v4.12. There is better (lower) latency with v4.12


If you need help creating the VAC cable definitions, then you can use 
this registry file to create 7 VAC channels (6 is the max you can use 
with a 5000+RX2 and a 1500 running on the same PC and 1 channel to use 
as the Windows default sound device if your PC does not have a sound 
card or is one where the input/output lines are not active unless you 
have something plugged into it)


http://support.flex-radio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=396

Tim Ellison, W4TME
Customer Experience Manager
FlexRadio Systems™
4616 W Howard Ln, Suite 1-150
Austin, TX 78728
Phone: 512-535-4713 Ext. 223
Email: t...@flexradio.com 
Web: www.flexradio.com 

logo
On 3/15/2014 11:28 AM, Keith Watson wrote:

Well, I believe I figured it out. It turns out it does not have anything to
do with DDUtil after all. Paul Van Dyck, ON7VD, suggested I downgrade VAC
4.13 to version 4.09. This seems to have done the trick. It is not entirely
clear why the copy in PSK was better when I was not running DDUtil, but
there was a significant difference. Although, I always had my doubts that
even without DDUtil running, the copy was still not up to par. I still have
some more testing to do, but it looks like Paul solved this one for me.
Thanks to everyone for your suggestions.

Keith...
N9TX


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Keith Watson  wrote:


Hi Bob,

I do understand the relationship of the HRD server and the other HRD
applications. Yes, I do have that checked in DDUtil. All the pieces are
working together. It is just that the copy from PSK from any of the digital
apps is terrible.

Keith...


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Robert Guertin wrote:


Keith, I ran DM780 with a 5000 having not had one bit of trouble doing it.
Here is what I used:
VAC 4.12 (virtual audio cables)
VSPE (Eterlogic virtual port software)
DDUtil Ver 3.0 (communicates between PSDR and DM-780, radio frequency and
turn on HRD server)

I've been following your dilemma for a couple of days and I have never
heard you talk about the HRD server. In DDUtil v3 there is a check off
that allows you to turn it on. Without it turned on DM-780 doesn't know
what to do. Don't forget DM-780 was never designed to be stand alone, it
requires HRD to be running to make it work. The server.

Goog Luck,
Bob, W1GLV

-Original Message-
From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of
Keith
Watson
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:30 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Using Digital Master 780 with Flex 5000a

Everything I have done to test still points to DDUtil. I am running the
current version of DDUtil 3. The computer is a Dell Optiplex 745 with a
Core 2 Duo running at 2.4GHz and 4GB of memory. The OS is Windows 7
Ultumate 64bit. I use Com0Com. Not sure how to tell what version it is,
but
it was recently downloaded from the website, so it should be current. Not
really seeing a problem with DPCs that I know of. When checked, it is
usually around 1200. Operating mode is set to normal, and buffers are all
set to the default.

I have seen this symptom with DM780, FLDigi, and MMVARI. When testing
DM780
without using DDUtil, it copies just fine.

Keith...


On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Neal Campbell 
wrote:


I have seen 2 instances where DDU was drawing excessive CPU utilization
(like 90%) and it obviously was stressing the system to the point that
anything with a DPC had to wait a long while to getr control back.

I replaced DDU2 with DDU3 and the problems were fixed.

73

Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal LLC




On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Keith Watson

wrote:

Is it possible that DDUtil could be involved with this issue? When I
bypass
DDUtil, everything seems to work as expected. However, I can't

understand

how this utility would cause a problem with the audio.

Keith...
N9TX


On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Bret Mills 

wrote:

Maker sure your on the correct sideband for the digital mode your

using

AND your VAC levels are set correctly, ie. The FLDigi or DM780

waterfall

should be a medium blue color and the signals are yellow using the

default

screen colors, on my radio this is about -24 on the VAC control, make

sure

when you transmit you adjust your audio levels as well.
73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Keith Watson 
I believe it is a little more basic than that. I tried FLDigi and

MMVari

and they all show the same symptom when coping PSK31.

Keith...


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 9:11 PM, John Swink 

wrote:

Keith,
I never could get DM780 to work with my Flex 5000A so I switched

to

Fldigi.

It runs all digital modes exc