Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics
Brian C Brian L I did get an email from the ionosnode folks in Boulder: --- Dave, We are indeed operating two ionosondes at our facility on Broadway, in Boulder. I will look over your plots. As a favor, would you attempt to time stamp the phenomena for me? One of our older radars is initiating a sweep at these 15 minute intervals 00, 15, 30, 45 of each hour. Our second radar is initiating a sweep at these 15 minute intervals 05, 20, 35, 50 of each hour. Each broadcast sweep takes ~ 3 minutes. Regards, Rob ___ The QRM I'm seeing is on constantly .. so unless some equipment they have is defective, the are not the source. I'm going try and locate some of the local folks that have directional antennas and see if they are hearing it also. Dave _ From: Brian C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Well, I'm very interested to see what it turns out to be. Hope we can locate it! Brian _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:53:09 -0700 Brian Haven't got a portable receiver, but have a buddy with a mobile set-up, I know right where the transmitter is. I could also pack up the 5000 and notebook computer.. Hopefully the NOAA folks will get back to me on Monday . Dave _ From: Brian C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 6:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Do you have a portable SW radio and can you drive toward the transmitter site to see if things change at all as you get closer? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:21:17 -0700 I will sure keep ya updated. The signal is extremely strong, S9 + 20 the 2nd Harmonic is S9 at least. Hopefully, the NOAA folks will have some answers -- it's pretty annoying. _ From: Brian C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 6:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Great, let us know what happens. If it's not local, it might be an ionosonde station. Sure looks and sounds like one, but the interval's too short. However, if it's a local, low power test, they might be changing the intervals from the norm. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:54:40 -0700 Brian I am about 7 miles from Boulder -- I've got a an email out to the ionosonde folks. Dve _ From: Brian C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics An ethernet switch could be the culprit. My next guesses would be be either an internet cable modem or a switching power supply. David, how close are you to Boulder? There is a new digital ionosonde station in Boulder, with a 4Kw amplifier, undergoing testing as of November 22, 2008. It's a VIPIR, Vertical Incidence Pulsed Ionospheric Radar installation. http://www.ips.gov.au/IPSHosted/INAG/web-69/2008/boulder_vipir.pdf CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:14:27 -0800 On Nov 29, 2008, at 10:21 AM, David Beumer W0DHB wrote: Brian You may be on to something.. I have since found the same pattern at around 5 Mhz with harmonics in 30m . I have also found they are in multiples about every 170Khz or so .. They swoosh through every 15 seconds or so. Mulitples of 170KHz? I have that. It turned out to be my Linksys managed ethernet switch. Brian Lloyd Granite Bay Montessori School 9330 Sierra College Bl brian AT gbmontessori DOT com Roseville, CA 95661 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.791.912.8170 (fax) PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C _ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. Sign http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access _112008 up today. _ Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. Sign http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety _112008 up today. _ Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. Sign http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid
Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics
While I agree that it makes more sense that it would be something like a switching power supply,but the signal is strongest when connected to my outdoor antenna +20 or so. I've done indoor sniffing with a loop antenna and I barely pick up the signal if at all. We're on 2 acres and the closest neighbor to the antenna is 300 or 400 feet away. I'm gonna keep plugging along .. The folks at NOAA as well as several other local Amateurs I've been in contact with have been very impressed with the Flex 5000 Panadapter and Waterfall display. -Original Message- From: Brian Lloyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:40 PM To: David Beumer WA3FDB Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics On Dec 1, 2008, at 3:56 PM, David Beumer WA3FDB wrote: Brian C Brian L I did get an email from the ionosnode folks in Boulder: I have seen the ionosonde transmissions. They don't look like what you were talking about. OTOH, the repetitive 'birdies' that wander is pretty typical of a poorly shielded switching power supply with a varying load. -- - Dave, We are indeed operating two ionosondes at our facility on Broadway, in Boulder. I will look over your plots. As a favor, would you attempt to time stamp the phenomena for me? One of our older radars is initiating a sweep at these 15 minute intervals 00, 15, 30, 45 of each hour. Our second radar is initiating a sweep at these 15 minute intervals 05, 20, 35, 50 of each hour. Each broadcast sweep takes ~ 3 minutes. Regards, Rob __ _ The QRM I'm seeing is on constantly .. so unless some equipment they have is defective, the are not the source. I'm going try and locate some of the local folks that have directional antennas and see if they are hearing it also. Dave From: Brian C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Well, I'm very interested to see what it turns out to be. Hope we can locate it! Brian From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:53:09 -0700 Brian Haven't got a portable receiver, but have a buddy with a mobile set- up, I know right where the transmitter is. I could also pack up the 5000 and notebook computer.. Hopefully the NOAA folks will get back to me on Monday . Dave From: Brian C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 6:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Do you have a portable SW radio and can you drive toward the transmitter site to see if things change at all as you get closer? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:21:17 -0700 I will sure keep ya updated. The signal is extremely strong, S9 + 20 the 2nd Harmonic is S9 at least. Hopefully, the NOAA folks will have some answers -- it's pretty annoying. From: Brian C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 6:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Great, let us know what happens. If it's not local, it might be an ionosonde station. Sure looks and sounds like one, but the interval's too short. However, if it's a local, low power test, they might be changing the intervals from the norm. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:54:40 -0700 Brian I am about 7 miles from Boulder -- I've got a an email out to the ionosonde folks. Dve From: Brian C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics An ethernet switch could be the culprit. My next guesses would be be either an internet cable modem or a switching power supply. David, how close are you to Boulder? There is a new digital ionosonde station in Boulder, with a 4Kw amplifier, undergoing testing as of November 22, 2008. It's a VIPIR, Vertical Incidence Pulsed Ionospheric Radar installation. http://www.ips.gov.au/IPSHosted/INAG/web-69/2008/boulder_vipir.pdf CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:14:27 -0800 On Nov 29, 2008, at 10:21 AM, David Beumer W0DHB wrote: Brian You may be on to something.. I have since found the same pattern at around 5 Mhz with harmonics in 30m . I have
Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics
Dave, are you hearing an ionosonde? Does it sound like a swooosh that moves up or down the band every few hours? http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/IONO/ionogram.html Message: 4 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 From: David Beumer W0DHB Folks I'm trying to track down the source of some nasty QRM that appears as an 4khz wide carrier that meanders through 40m with 2nd ,3rd and 4th harmonics on 20, 15 and 10. I've got a screen shot of waterfalls of 40m (Top) and 20m (bottom) showing the signal at URL: www.wa3fdb.net/40mQRM.htm I'd appreciate any clues as to what it is .. I don't believe it is anything internal to the 5000A . It is strong enough on 20 m that it prevents digital mode reception. I'm located about 40 miles NNW of Denver, grid DN70kc . I'm also checking with folks in a 10 mile radius or so to see if they can hear and/or see it. Thanks Dave - W0DHB _ Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the “I’m a PC” Messenger themepack now. hthttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642558/direct/01/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics
Brian You may be on to something.. I have since found the same pattern at around 5 Mhz with harmonics in 30m . I have also found they are in multiples about every 170Khz or so .. They swoosh through every 15 seconds or so. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian C Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:30 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Dave, are you hearing an ionosonde? Does it sound like a swooosh that moves up or down the band every few hours? http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/IONO/ionogram.html Message: 4 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 From: David Beumer W0DHB Folks I'm trying to track down the source of some nasty QRM that appears as an 4khz wide carrier that meanders through 40m with 2nd ,3rd and 4th harmonics on 20, 15 and 10. I've got a screen shot of waterfalls of 40m (Top) and 20m (bottom) showing the signal at URL: www.wa3fdb.net/40mQRM.htm I'd appreciate any clues as to what it is .. I don't believe it is anything internal to the 5000A . It is strong enough on 20 m that it prevents digital mode reception. I'm located about 40 miles NNW of Denver, grid DN70kc . I'm also checking with folks in a 10 mile radius or so to see if they can hear and/or see it. Thanks Dave - W0DHB _ Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the I'm a PC Messenger themepack now. hthttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642558/direct/01/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics
I'm gonna check that out Jim, I use an Astron RS-35M for the Rig, might be one of the PC's Thanks Dave -Original Message- From: Lux, James P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 12:54 PM To: David Beumer W0DHB Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Switching ps is the most likely,esp if the sweep period isn't rock steady. Esp if you've got a every 1xx kHz sort of harmonic structure Jim w6rmk -Original Message- From: David Beumer W0DHB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Brian C' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: 11/29/08 10:24 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Brian You may be on to something.. I have since found the same pattern at around 5 Mhz with harmonics in 30m . I have also found they are in multiples about every 170Khz or so .. They swoosh through every 15 seconds or so. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian C Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:30 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Dave, are you hearing an ionosonde? Does it sound like a swooosh that moves up or down the band every few hours? http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/IONO/ionogram.html Message: 4 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 From: David Beumer W0DHB Folks I'm trying to track down the source of some nasty QRM that appears as an 4khz wide carrier that meanders through 40m with 2nd ,3rd and 4th harmonics on 20, 15 and 10. I've got a screen shot of waterfalls of 40m (Top) and 20m (bottom) showing the signal at URL: www.wa3fdb.net/40mQRM.htm I'd appreciate any clues as to what it is .. I don't believe it is anything internal to the 5000A . It is strong enough on 20 m that it prevents digital mode reception. I'm located about 40 miles NNW of Denver, grid DN70kc . I'm also checking with folks in a 10 mile radius or so to see if they can hear and/or see it. Thanks Dave - W0DHB _ Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the I'm a PC Messenger themepack now. hthttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642558/direct/01/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics
Shoot -- ran 5000 from battery operated notebook, it's not the PC's or monitors. A correction on the repeating pattern, it's every 80Hz or so, the 170Khz repeating was the 2nd Harmonic. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Beumer W0DHB Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:20 PM To: 'Lux, James P'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics I'm gonna check that out Jim, I use an Astron RS-35M for the Rig, might be one of the PC's Thanks Dave -Original Message- From: Lux, James P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 12:54 PM To: David Beumer W0DHB Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Switching ps is the most likely,esp if the sweep period isn't rock steady. Esp if you've got a every 1xx kHz sort of harmonic structure Jim w6rmk -Original Message- From: David Beumer W0DHB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Brian C' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: 11/29/08 10:24 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Brian You may be on to something.. I have since found the same pattern at around 5 Mhz with harmonics in 30m . I have also found they are in multiples about every 170Khz or so .. They swoosh through every 15 seconds or so. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian C Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:30 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Dave, are you hearing an ionosonde? Does it sound like a swooosh that moves up or down the band every few hours? http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/IONO/ionogram.html Message: 4 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 From: David Beumer W0DHB Folks I'm trying to track down the source of some nasty QRM that appears as an 4khz wide carrier that meanders through 40m with 2nd ,3rd and 4th harmonics on 20, 15 and 10. I've got a screen shot of waterfalls of 40m (Top) and 20m (bottom) showing the signal at URL: www.wa3fdb.net/40mQRM.htm I'd appreciate any clues as to what it is .. I don't believe it is anything internal to the 5000A . It is strong enough on 20 m that it prevents digital mode reception. I'm located about 40 miles NNW of Denver, grid DN70kc . I'm also checking with folks in a 10 mile radius or so to see if they can hear and/or see it. Thanks Dave - W0DHB _ Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the I'm a PC Messenger themepack now. hthttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642558/direct/01/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics
On Nov 29, 2008, at 10:21 AM, David Beumer W0DHB wrote: Brian You may be on to something.. I have since found the same pattern at around 5 Mhz with harmonics in 30m . I have also found they are in multiples about every 170Khz or so .. They swoosh through every 15 seconds or so. Mulitples of 170KHz? I have that. It turned out to be my Linksys managed ethernet switch. Brian Lloyd Granite Bay Montessori School 9330 Sierra College Bl brian AT gbmontessori DOT com Roseville, CA 95661 +1.916.367.2131 (voice)+1.791.912.8170 (fax) PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics
An ethernet switch could be the culprit. My next guesses would be be either an internet cable modem or a switching power supply. David, how close are you to Boulder? There is a new digital ionosonde station in Boulder, with a 4Kw amplifier, undergoing testing as of November 22, 2008. It's a VIPIR, Vertical Incidence Pulsed Ionospheric Radar installation. http://www.ips.gov.au/IPSHosted/INAG/web-69/2008/boulder_vipir.pdf CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:14:27 -0800 On Nov 29, 2008, at 10:21 AM, David Beumer W0DHB wrote: Brian You may be on to something.. I have since found the same pattern at around 5 Mhz with harmonics in 30m . I have also found they are in multiples about every 170Khz or so .. They swoosh through every 15 seconds or so. Mulitples of 170KHz? I have that. It turned out to be my Linksys managed ethernet switch.Brian Lloyd Granite Bay Montessori School 9330 Sierra College Bl brian AT gbmontessori DOT com Roseville, CA 95661 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.791.912.8170 (fax) PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C _ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access_112008 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics
Actually it's multiples of 80Hz or so.. The harmonics are a multiple of 170. That being said, I do have a Netgear managed switch that I will check out. Thanks -Original Message- From: Brian Lloyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:14 PM To: David Beumer W0DHB Cc: 'Brian C'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics On Nov 29, 2008, at 10:21 AM, David Beumer W0DHB wrote: Brian You may be on to something.. I have since found the same pattern at around 5 Mhz with harmonics in 30m . I have also found they are in multiples about every 170Khz or so .. They swoosh through every 15 seconds or so. Mulitples of 170KHz? I have that. It turned out to be my Linksys managed ethernet switch. Brian Lloyd Granite Bay Montessori School 9330 Sierra College Bl brian AT gbmontessori DOT com Roseville, CA 95661 +1.916.367.2131 (voice)+1.791.912.8170 (fax) PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics
Brian I am about 7 miles from Boulder -- I've got a an email out to the ionosonde folks. Dve _ From: Brian C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics An ethernet switch could be the culprit. My next guesses would be be either an internet cable modem or a switching power supply. David, how close are you to Boulder? There is a new digital ionosonde station in Boulder, with a 4Kw amplifier, undergoing testing as of November 22, 2008. It's a VIPIR, Vertical Incidence Pulsed Ionospheric Radar installation. http://www.ips.gov.au/IPSHosted/INAG/web-69/2008/boulder_vipir.pdf CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 40m qrm with harmonics Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:14:27 -0800 On Nov 29, 2008, at 10:21 AM, David Beumer W0DHB wrote: Brian You may be on to something.. I have since found the same pattern at around 5 Mhz with harmonics in 30m . I have also found they are in multiples about every 170Khz or so .. They swoosh through every 15 seconds or so. Mulitples of 170KHz? I have that. It turned out to be my Linksys managed ethernet switch. Brian Lloyd Granite Bay Montessori School 9330 Sierra College Bl brian AT gbmontessori DOT com Roseville, CA 95661 +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.791.912.8170 (fax) PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C _ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. Sign up today. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access _112008 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] 40m QRM
Folks I'm trying to track down the source of some nasty QRM that appears as an 4khz wide carrier that meanders through 40m with 2nd ,3rd and 4th harmonics on 20, 15 and 10. I've got a screen shot of waterfalls of 40m (Top) and 20m(bottom) showing the signal at URL: www.wa3fdb.net/40mQRM.htm I'd appreciate any clues as to what it is .. I don't believe it is anything internal to the 5000A. It is strong enough on 20 m that it prevents digital mode reception. I'm located about 40 miles NNW of Denver, grid DN70kc . I'm also checking with folks in a 10 mile radius or so to see if they can hear and/or see it. Thanks Dave - W0DHB ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 40m QRM
David, If you are using any UPS equipment or any other switched mode power supplies, try to switch them off. Ahti OH2RZ On 29/11/2008, David Beumer W0DHB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks I'm trying to track down the source of some nasty QRM that appears as an 4khz wide carrier that meanders through 40m with 2nd ,3rd and 4th harmonics on 20, 15 and 10. I've got a screen shot of waterfalls of 40m (Top) and 20m(bottom) showing the signal at URL: www.wa3fdb.net/40mQRM.htm I'd appreciate any clues as to what it is .. I don't believe it is anything internal to the 5000A. It is strong enough on 20 m that it prevents digital mode reception. I'm located about 40 miles NNW of Denver, grid DN70kc . I'm also checking with folks in a 10 mile radius or so to see if they can hear and/or see it. Thanks Dave - W0DHB ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 40m QRM
Ahti Thank you, I hadn't thought of the UPS.. -Original Message- From: Ahti Aintila [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 10:46 PM To: David Beumer W0DHB Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 40m QRM David, If you are using any UPS equipment or any other switched mode power supplies, try to switch them off. Ahti OH2RZ On 29/11/2008, David Beumer W0DHB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks I'm trying to track down the source of some nasty QRM that appears as an 4khz wide carrier that meanders through 40m with 2nd ,3rd and 4th harmonics on 20, 15 and 10. I've got a screen shot of waterfalls of 40m (Top) and 20m(bottom) showing the signal at URL: www.wa3fdb.net/40mQRM.htm I'd appreciate any clues as to what it is .. I don't believe it is anything internal to the 5000A. It is strong enough on 20 m that it prevents digital mode reception. I'm located about 40 miles NNW of Denver, grid DN70kc . I'm also checking with folks in a 10 mile radius or so to see if they can hear and/or see it. Thanks Dave - W0DHB ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
