[Flexradio] Fw: WSPR

2008-04-02 Thread Ross Biggar
I am using my QRP SDR1000 to run WSPR, which is Joe's K1JT new mode (aided by 
Murray ZL1BPU).

The 1watt SDR1000 is ideal for the mode, and  I am monitoring my transmitter on 
another receiver and computer also running WSPR and Winrad.

 I can see that the SDR1000 is transmitting the 1500hz tone, but it is also 
transmitting 2 tones, probably exactly 100hz above and below the 1500hz main 
signal. These two signals are about 24 to 26db below the main signal.
They are very obvious on both the WSPR screen and on Winrad.

My questions therefore are, 
Are these signals due to the SDR1000 and if so  how do I reduce the amplitude 
of these 2 signals.

Comments please

Thanks and best wishes to all Flexers
Ross
ZL1WN


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Re: [Flexradio] Fw: WSPR

2008-04-02 Thread Bruce Walker
Hi, Ross.  I'm also using the SDR-1000 for WSPR.  In fact, I received  
your signal four times this morning!

No, the signal should be quite narrow, and if you have other products  
within 25dB or so below or above, it's not normal...but I have seen  
it.  I would suspect a mixing artifact from some other program which  
has the VAC open, even if they don't seem to be outputting sound.   
When I had the VAC as the default sound device in windows (before  
WSPR supported selecting different devices), this would happen  
whenever I had IE open, of all things.

Maybe I should offer my 100WPA for sale, as I seem to be using the  
SDR-1000 for QRPp almost exclusively :-).

--bruce W1BW

On Apr 2, 2008, at 7:57 PM, Ross Biggar wrote:

 I am using my QRP SDR1000 to run WSPR, which is Joe's K1JT new mode  
 (aided by Murray ZL1BPU).

 The 1watt SDR1000 is ideal for the mode, and  I am monitoring my  
 transmitter on another receiver and computer also running WSPR and  
 Winrad.

 I can see that the SDR1000 is transmitting the 1500hz tone, but it  
 is also transmitting 2 tones, probably exactly 100hz above and below  
 the 1500hz main signal. These two signals are about 24 to 26db below  
 the main signal.
 They are very obvious on both the WSPR screen and on Winrad.

 My questions therefore are,
 Are these signals due to the SDR1000 and if so  how do I reduce the  
 amplitude of these 2 signals.

 Comments please

 Thanks and best wishes to all Flexers
 Ross
 ZL1WN


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Re: [Flexradio] Fw: WSPR

2008-04-02 Thread Ray J
you may be overdriving your input  have you tried lowering the tx gain  
to see if it does anything...

also WSPR only uses about 6 Hz according to Joes site so you can crank 
the tx filter width way down... see if that gets rid of the extra 
transmitted signals



Ray J
W9RAY



   
 I am using my QRP SDR1000 to run WSPR, which is Joe's K1JT new mode  
 (aided by Murray ZL1BPU).

 The 1watt SDR1000 is ideal for the mode, and  I am monitoring my  
 transmitter on another receiver and computer also running WSPR and  
 Winrad.

 I can see that the SDR1000 is transmitting the 1500hz tone, but it  
 is also transmitting 2 tones, probably exactly 100hz above and below  
 the 1500hz main signal. These two signals are about 24 to 26db below  
 the main signal.
 They are very obvious on both the WSPR screen and on Winrad.

 My


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Re: [Flexradio] Fw: WSPR

2008-04-02 Thread Ross Biggar
Tim and Bruce,
thanks for the replies,
Tim I assume you mean the transmit rejection.
If so I dont have a Spectrum analyzer, but can check by listening on a 
second receiver,  and using Winrad,
With the following result.
Enabling the tone and adjusting the phase and gain brings up another carrier 
approx 1khz away.
Putting the gain and phase back to 0.0 eliminates this carrier.
I could repeat the test and obtain the exact frequency difference if needed.
While running the test I can see the spur 100hz below the carrier tone. 
Adjusting the phase and gain does not
alter this spur at all.

Checking while transmitting WSPR on both the Winrad screen and WSPR the 
spur is 30db down from the main carrier.

Bruce, another person with the same idea for the SDR1000 QRP , at last a 
good use for it !!.

Nothing else is running on that computer, The SDR has its own computer and 
nothing else is running apart from WSPR.

Regards and thanks
Ross
ZL1WN

So ideas please
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From: Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ross Biggar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Fw: WSPR


Have you done the TX Image calibration lately?



-Tim

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Subject: [Flexradio] Fw: WSPR

I am using my QRP SDR1000 to run WSPR, which is Joe's K1JT new mode (aided 
by Murray ZL1BPU).

The 1watt SDR1000 is ideal for the mode, and  I am monitoring my transmitter 
on another receiver and computer also running WSPR and Winrad.

 I can see that the SDR1000 is transmitting the 1500hz tone, but it is also 
transmitting 2 tones, probably exactly 100hz above and below the 1500hz main 
signal. These two signals are about 24 to 26db below the main signal.
They are very obvious on both the WSPR screen and on Winrad.

My questions therefore are,
Are these signals due to the SDR1000 and if so  how do I reduce the 
amplitude of these 2 signals.

Comments please

Thanks and best wishes to all Flexers
Ross
ZL1WN


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