Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors

2007-04-19 Thread Tim Ellison
...and the FLEX-5000, the FLEX-5000C and the FLEX-5000D too  (I couldn't
resist either)

-Tim
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And PowerSDR and SDRx and SVN and SVN-X and ...
Sorry I had to react
73
 
groeten Peter
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Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Marty
Verzonden: do 19-4-2007 20:44
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Onderwerp: Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors





This may have already been recommended.  I have been doing a lot of
deleting without reading.

Why don't we just put "SDR-5000" or "SDR-1000" or something to
distinguish between the two in the subject line for hardware issues
and then put "power SDR" for software issues?

This way we all can click and delete or filter out the messages we
are not concerned with.

Marty
KG6QKJ


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Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors

2007-04-19 Thread petervn
And PowerSDR and SDRx and SVN and SVN-X and ...
Sorry I had to react
73
 
groeten Peter
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Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Marty
Verzonden: do 19-4-2007 20:44
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This may have already been recommended.  I have been doing a lot of
deleting without reading.

Why don't we just put "SDR-5000" or "SDR-1000" or something to
distinguish between the two in the subject line for hardware issues
and then put "power SDR" for software issues?

This way we all can click and delete or filter out the messages we
are not concerned with.

Marty
KG6QKJ


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Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors

2007-04-19 Thread k5nwa
I was thinking more like one filters the subject, if you don't like 
the current discussion then filter on the subject "separate 
reflectors" That way no particular code word has to be put in the 
subject, one is not dependent on someone putting in the right code word.

I prefer top posting, but don't mind bottom posting if the entries 
are kept trimmed. I totally dislike long posting with no paragraphs 
to separate the thoughts, just one giant post, I generally delete 
them without even reading them.

Sometimes you can't even people to agree that they disagree, maybe 
the planet needs to be hit by a 100 mile diameter meteorite.

At 01:55 PM 4/19/2007, you wrote:
>On 4/19/07, Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > This may have already been recommended.  I have been doing a lot of
> > deleting without reading.
> >
> > Why don't we just put "SDR-5000" or "SDR-1000" or something to
> > distinguish between the two in the subject line for hardware issues
> > and then put "power SDR" for software issues?
> >
> > This way we all can click and delete or filter out the messages we
> > are not concerned with.
> >
> > Marty
> > KG6QKJ
>
>Good idea, but...
>
>You can't get people to agree on whether to top post or bottom post,
>nor can you get people to trim their responses to a thread, nor can
>you get them to not change the subject line in a thread when it
>involves the same topic, nor can you get them to post text only (no
>html), so I doubt you will people to consistently tag their subject
>lines like "SDR-5000".
>
>Phil N8VB
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Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors

2007-04-19 Thread Philip Covington
On 4/19/07, k5nwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was thinking more like one filters the subject, if you don't like
> the current discussion then filter on the subject "separate
> reflectors" That way no particular code word has to be put in the
> subject, one is not dependent on someone putting in the right code word.

This is basically what I do myself.  I just have a bunch of filtering
rules for all my emails and it generally works very well.

> I prefer top posting, but don't mind bottom posting if the entries
> are kept trimmed. I totally dislike long posting with no paragraphs
> to separate the thoughts, just one giant post, I generally delete
> them without even reading them.

I am indifferent to top or bottom posting, but I know that it throws
some people into fits.  One of the things that does aggravate me is
changing the subject line with no apparent reason.

> Sometimes you can't even people to agree that they disagree, maybe
> the planet needs to be hit by a 100 mile diameter meteorite.
>

Sometimes I wonder if that might be the best solution also.

73 Phil N8VB

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Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors

2007-04-19 Thread Tim Ellison
Use what is available.  Why not use the Forums for special interest
discussions?  That is what it is there for.  The groups are already set
up.

http://forums.flex-radio.com/Forum50-1.aspx  (FLEX-5000 Forum)

http://forums.flex-radio.com/Forum46-1.aspx   (SDR-1000 Forum)

-Tim
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Beckmann-wa0rse
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:10 PM
To: k5nwa
Cc: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors

Ahem I am well aware of how to use an e-mail filter and have a
number of them set up for this and other reflectors. I *have* and
*will continue* to put in *more than a little* effort to update them
in the future. (Let's not get too nasty, eh? I was simply weighing in
with my opinion.)

If we follow the logic of "let the filters do everything" to its
conclusion, then all e-mail should be sent to everyone, everywhere and
they should be responsible for filtering out what they want from what
they do. My suggestion is merely that at some point it makes sense to
have "special interest groups" emerge.

There is synergy -- no question. In my opinion, that does not require
one monolythic reflector nor would segregation require out-of-control
cross posting.

We all have our ways of handling information parsing. Some segregation
might be helpful to some of us.

73
--Paul, wa0rse


On 4/19/07, k5nwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And in the darkness bind them...always finish your quote.
>
> I'm in favor of one reflector, as stated by Dan the cross posting
> will drive you crazy, and if you only sign on to one what did you
miss?
>
> It would be more worthwhile for the people that get offended by
> posting on subjects not to their liking to put a little effort and
> learn how to use the email filter to kill all mail on a particular
discussion.
>
> At 11:57 AM 4/19/2007, you wrote:
> > >
> > > My guess is if the reflector were split, at least 75% of the
current
> > > subscribers would subscribe to both.  So what have you gained?  A
lot
> >of cross
> > > posting?
> > >
> >
> >Dan raises an excellent point: With multiple reflectors, we'd
> >undoubtedly suffer lots of cross-posting.
> >
> >A single list also makes searching easier.
> >
> >I vote for one list to rule them all...
> >
> >de Peter K1PGV
> >
> >
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>
> Cecil
> K5NWA
> www.qrpradio.com www.hpsdr.com
>
> Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas
habebunt.
> (When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults!)
>
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Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors

2007-04-19 Thread Philip Covington
On 4/19/07, Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> This may have already been recommended.  I have been doing a lot of
> deleting without reading.
>
> Why don't we just put "SDR-5000" or "SDR-1000" or something to
> distinguish between the two in the subject line for hardware issues
> and then put "power SDR" for software issues?
>
> This way we all can click and delete or filter out the messages we
> are not concerned with.
>
> Marty
> KG6QKJ

Good idea, but...

You can't get people to agree on whether to top post or bottom post,
nor can you get people to trim their responses to a thread, nor can
you get them to not change the subject line in a thread when it
involves the same topic, nor can you get them to post text only (no
html), so I doubt you will people to consistently tag their subject
lines like "SDR-5000".

Phil N8VB

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Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors

2007-04-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't think ANY one is being nasty, again words written without tone 
ARE often misinterpreted. I am always amazed at the imposed 
interpretation of email, I have always been of the notion that unless 
someone address you specifically with an issue than all post are 
individual opinions .

Thanks,
Al
KE5EUP
KCARC,ARRL,TAPR,AMSAT,HPSDR



Paul Beckmann-wa0rse wrote:
> Ahem I am well aware of how to use an e-mail filter and have a
> number of them set up for this and other reflectors. I *have* and
> *will continue* to put in *more than a little* effort to update them
> in the future. (Let's not get too nasty, eh? I was simply weighing in
> with my opinion.)
>
> If we follow the logic of "let the filters do everything" to its
> conclusion, then all e-mail should be sent to everyone, everywhere and
> they should be responsible for filtering out what they want from what
> they do. My suggestion is merely that at some point it makes sense to
> have "special interest groups" emerge.
>
> There is synergy -- no question. In my opinion, that does not require
> one monolythic reflector nor would segregation require out-of-control
> cross posting.
>
> We all have our ways of handling information parsing. Some segregation
> might be helpful to some of us.
>
> 73
> --Paul, wa0rse
>
>
> On 4/19/07, k5nwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> And in the darkness bind them...always finish your quote.
>>
>> I'm in favor of one reflector, as stated by Dan the cross posting
>> will drive you crazy, and if you only sign on to one what did you miss?
>>
>> It would be more worthwhile for the people that get offended by
>> posting on subjects not to their liking to put a little effort and
>> learn how to use the email filter to kill all mail on a particular 
>> discussion.
>>
>> At 11:57 AM 4/19/2007, you wrote:
>> 
 My guess is if the reflector were split, at least 75% of the current
 subscribers would subscribe to both.  So what have you gained?  A lot
 
>>> of cross
>>>   
 posting?

 
>>> Dan raises an excellent point: With multiple reflectors, we'd
>>> undoubtedly suffer lots of cross-posting.
>>>
>>> A single list also makes searching easier.
>>>
>>> I vote for one list to rule them all...
>>>
>>> de Peter K1PGV
>>>
>>>
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>>>   
>> Cecil
>> K5NWA
>> www.qrpradio.com www.hpsdr.com
>>
>> Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt.
>> (When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults!)
>>
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Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors

2007-04-19 Thread k5nwa
Thank You. This topic is beginning to get out of hand and people are 
taking it personally when it's a general discussion.

Babies should be well fed and protected!


At 01:48 PM 4/19/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I don't think ANY one is being nasty, again words written without 
>tone ARE often misinterpreted. I am always amazed at the imposed 
>interpretation of email, I have always been of the notion that 
>unless someone address you specifically with an issue than all post 
>are individual opinions .
>
>Thanks,
>Al
>KE5EUP
>KCARC,ARRL,TAPR,AMSAT,HPSDR
>
>Cecil
>K5NWA
>www.qrpradio.com www.hpsdr.com
>
>Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt.
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Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors

2007-04-19 Thread Marty


This may have already been recommended.  I have been doing a lot of 
deleting without reading.

Why don't we just put "SDR-5000" or "SDR-1000" or something to 
distinguish between the two in the subject line for hardware issues 
and then put "power SDR" for software issues?

This way we all can click and delete or filter out the messages we 
are not concerned with.

Marty
KG6QKJ


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Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors

2007-04-19 Thread Paul Beckmann-wa0rse
Ahem I am well aware of how to use an e-mail filter and have a
number of them set up for this and other reflectors. I *have* and
*will continue* to put in *more than a little* effort to update them
in the future. (Let's not get too nasty, eh? I was simply weighing in
with my opinion.)

If we follow the logic of "let the filters do everything" to its
conclusion, then all e-mail should be sent to everyone, everywhere and
they should be responsible for filtering out what they want from what
they do. My suggestion is merely that at some point it makes sense to
have "special interest groups" emerge.

There is synergy -- no question. In my opinion, that does not require
one monolythic reflector nor would segregation require out-of-control
cross posting.

We all have our ways of handling information parsing. Some segregation
might be helpful to some of us.

73
--Paul, wa0rse


On 4/19/07, k5nwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And in the darkness bind them...always finish your quote.
>
> I'm in favor of one reflector, as stated by Dan the cross posting
> will drive you crazy, and if you only sign on to one what did you miss?
>
> It would be more worthwhile for the people that get offended by
> posting on subjects not to their liking to put a little effort and
> learn how to use the email filter to kill all mail on a particular discussion.
>
> At 11:57 AM 4/19/2007, you wrote:
> > >
> > > My guess is if the reflector were split, at least 75% of the current
> > > subscribers would subscribe to both.  So what have you gained?  A lot
> >of cross
> > > posting?
> > >
> >
> >Dan raises an excellent point: With multiple reflectors, we'd
> >undoubtedly suffer lots of cross-posting.
> >
> >A single list also makes searching easier.
> >
> >I vote for one list to rule them all...
> >
> >de Peter K1PGV
> >
> >
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>
> Cecil
> K5NWA
> www.qrpradio.com www.hpsdr.com
>
> Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt.
> (When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults!)
>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors

2007-04-19 Thread Tim Ellison
There is too much synergy and commonality in the products to segregate
based on hardware, after all, it is PowerSDR that is the "radio" not the
box, which is only a RF to IQ converter (and visa versa), when you get
right down to it.

One dream, one goal, one mind and one reflector!


-Tim

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Kirk
(KW5TX)
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:21 AM
To: Flexradio
Subject: [Flexradio] seperate reflectors

Wouldn't it be nice if there was a reflector for the SDR1000  
specifically and one for the new 5000...
So that those of us who have no intentions of buying the 5000 for at 
least a year or 2 ...don't get inundated with junk mail :)

just a thought

steve
kw5tx

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Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors

2007-04-19 Thread philip gentile
i think there are too many common elements in the product line for the 
radios' themselves' to have separate reflectors.

my $0.02USD worth.

phil AB2JL


- Original Message - 
From: "k5nwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors


> And in the darkness bind them...always finish your quote.
>
> I'm in favor of one reflector, as stated by Dan the cross posting
> will drive you crazy, and if you only sign on to one what did you miss?
>
> It would be more worthwhile for the people that get offended by
> posting on subjects not to their liking to put a little effort and
> learn how to use the email filter to kill all mail on a particular 
> discussion.
>
> At 11:57 AM 4/19/2007, you wrote:
>> >
>> > My guess is if the reflector were split, at least 75% of the current
>> > subscribers would subscribe to both.  So what have you gained?  A lot
>>of cross
>> > posting?
>> >
>>
>>Dan raises an excellent point: With multiple reflectors, we'd
>>undoubtedly suffer lots of cross-posting.
>>
>>A single list also makes searching easier.
>>
>>I vote for one list to rule them all...
>>
>>de Peter K1PGV
>>
>>
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>
> Cecil
> K5NWA
> www.qrpradio.com www.hpsdr.com
>
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Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors

2007-04-19 Thread k5nwa
And in the darkness bind them...always finish your quote.

I'm in favor of one reflector, as stated by Dan the cross posting 
will drive you crazy, and if you only sign on to one what did you miss?

It would be more worthwhile for the people that get offended by 
posting on subjects not to their liking to put a little effort and 
learn how to use the email filter to kill all mail on a particular discussion.

At 11:57 AM 4/19/2007, you wrote:
> >
> > My guess is if the reflector were split, at least 75% of the current
> > subscribers would subscribe to both.  So what have you gained?  A lot
>of cross
> > posting?
> >
>
>Dan raises an excellent point: With multiple reflectors, we'd
>undoubtedly suffer lots of cross-posting.
>
>A single list also makes searching easier.
>
>I vote for one list to rule them all...
>
>de Peter K1PGV
>
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Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors

2007-04-19 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
> 
> My guess is if the reflector were split, at least 75% of the current
> subscribers would subscribe to both.  So what have you gained?  A lot
of cross
> posting?
> 

Dan raises an excellent point: With multiple reflectors, we'd
undoubtedly suffer lots of cross-posting.

A single list also makes searching easier.

I vote for one list to rule them all...

de Peter K1PGV


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Re: [Flexradio] separate reflectors

2007-04-19 Thread n4xwe
There have from time to time been a number of threads generated on splitting 
the reflector.  I would much rather filter topics of personal interest using 
the "eyeball, brain and finger method" than feel that I might be missing 
something of importance because it was posted on the reflector to which I do 
not subscribe.  

My guess is if the reflector were split, at least 75% of the current 
subscribers would subscribe to both.  So what have you gained?  A lot of cross 
posting?

Excluding times like the present, this reflector is a long way from overload. 

73,

Dan N4XWE








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