Re: [Flexradio] PreSonus Firebox Output Voltage Descrepancies

2006-04-05 Thread Bob Tracy
I'm showing 2.5 v p-p on my o'scope.  What's going on?

Bob, K5KDN

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Folks,
who's all measured their audio output voltages on the Firebox using the
sound card output voltage test?
I just had opportunity to run this test and found my Firebox is only
pumping out 2.2 vac rather than the spec'ed 6.39 vac. Been working with
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in an attempt to understand whats going on. Apparently others
have noted this disparity in card output. Curious to know what other
Firebox owners are finding. This is a potentially serious matter given
the large disparity between the default value and the recorded level.
I'm hesitant to apply this new value to the console settings for fear
the level reverts to its higher output. To date however I have found
nothing software/mixer-wise which would account for this.

Kirb - VE6IV

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Re: [Flexradio] PreSonus Firebox Output Voltage Descrepancies

2006-04-05 Thread Jim Lux

At 03:40 PM 4/5/2006, root [knesbitt] wrote:

Folks,
who's all measured their audio output voltages on the Firebox using the
sound card output voltage test?
I just had opportunity to run this test and found my Firebox is only
pumping out 2.2 vac rather than the spec'ed 6.39 vac.


 RMS vs PkPk voltage?

Impedance of load? The webpage for the Firebox says 51 ohm output impedance 
and gives no full scale output voltage.


Jim 






Re: [Flexradio] PreSonus Firebox Output Voltage Descrepancies

2006-04-05 Thread Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio
I went back to the drawing board and tried to measure this myself and
had trouble.  Apparently our hard clipper that we added for the FireBox
to prevent overdriving the transmitter is the culprit.  Rather than a
single tone @ 600Hz at 6.39VAC, you will get something like a square
wave (nasty distortion) at 1.97VAC.  To see the true full value, you can
use the following procedure VERY CAREFULLY:

1. Disconnect the audio cable so that it is nowhere near the SDR-1000.
;)
2. Plug in a value to the V RMS right by the test button that is below
1.5V.
3. Run the test.
4. MAKE SURE to change the value back to the default setting before
plugging the cable back into the radio!!!

We will address this in the software in future releases.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems


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 Subject: [Flexradio] PreSonus Firebox Output Voltage Descrepancies
 
 Folks,
 who's all measured their audio output voltages on the Firebox using
the
 sound card output voltage test?
 I just had opportunity to run this test and found my Firebox is only
 pumping out 2.2 vac rather than the spec'ed 6.39 vac. Been working
with
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] in an attempt to understand whats going on. Apparently
others
 have noted this disparity in card output. Curious to know what other
 Firebox owners are finding. This is a potentially serious matter given
 the large disparity between the default value and the recorded level.
 I'm hesitant to apply this new value to the console settings for fear
 the level reverts to its higher output. To date however I have found
 nothing software/mixer-wise which would account for this.
 
 Kirb - VE6IV
 
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Re: [Flexradio] PreSonus Firebox Output Voltage Descrepancies

2006-04-05 Thread Robert McGwier


This is just not enough information to parse.  2.2 V under what 
conditions?  what test? what is the input?


PowerSDR hard limits the output in the case of the firebox to never go 
over a killing U2 voltage.


Bob



Bob Tracy wrote:

I'm showing 2.5 v p-p on my o'scope.  What's going on?

Bob, K5KDN

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Subject: [Flexradio] PreSonus Firebox Output Voltage Descrepancies


Folks,
who's all measured their audio output voltages on the Firebox using the
sound card output voltage test?
I just had opportunity to run this test and found my Firebox is only
pumping out 2.2 vac rather than the spec'ed 6.39 vac. Been working with
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in an attempt to understand whats going on. Apparently others
have noted this disparity in card output. Curious to know what other
Firebox owners are finding. This is a potentially serious matter given
the large disparity between the default value and the recorded level.
I'm hesitant to apply this new value to the console settings for fear
the level reverts to its higher output. To date however I have found
nothing software/mixer-wise which would account for this.

Kirb - VE6IV

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