Re: [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re: [PMX: #] Re: FlexWiki Site

2010-02-03 Thread John Davidson 
I am able to hold the content that I have legally on the website I have.

It is not possible to create a fork of the FlexWiki software and run a
separate development and build server. The Micrososft License that is used
for FlexWiki is not a copyleft license. Microsoft has each committer assign
their copyrights in the code they create to Microsoft (this is common in the
Open Source world). There is also at least one patent on the FlexWiki
software that I am aware of, that is central to the storage engine. For
development to continue without Microsoft would mean that they would have to
revise the license. For development to continue with Microsoft they need to
revive the site, including the build server.

I have not heard from David in more than 6 months now.

John Davidison

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Lionel Cuir wrote:

> A little misunderstanding - I was not speaking of reusing the flexwiki.com
> domain name, but to create a new site with flexwiki.com content. Is the
> result the same, ie do we need MS approval for that? I'm thinking while
> writing, but I'm afraid the answer is yes (I'm not a lawyer...).
>
> Lionel
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De : John Davidson [mailto:jwdavid...@gmail.com]
> Envoyé : mardi 2 février 2010 18:26
> À : FlexWiki Users Mailing List
> Objet : Re: [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re: [PMX: #] Re: FlexWiki Site
>
> Microsoft owns the copyrights and the domain. For that reason it is not
> possible to create a new site using FlexWiki.com
>
> Screwturn wiki has just complete a major upgrade to their codebase which
> unprimed the capability to add new features. I have not done full
> comparision but the main difference is the lack of WikiTalk functionality.
> It may be possible to include the most important features using LINQ, which
> would allow keyword selection.
>
> It would be good if David would let us know microsft's intentions
>
> John Davidson
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2010-02-02, at 11:36, "Lionel Cuir"  wrote:
>
> > Well, that would not be a problem to open up a site with the old
> > content.
> > But can we, legally speaking - we may need to get John agreement.
> > John, if
> > you read us...
> >
> > Adam, screwtape is missing a nice feature - autolinking between pages
> > (ie, no need to explicitely declare a word as being a link to another
> > wiki page).
> > But stop me if I'm wrong.
> >
> >
> > -Message d'origine-
> > De : Adam Brazier [mailto:abraz...@astro.cornell.edu]
> > Envoyé : mardi 2 février 2010 16:33
> > À : FlexWiki Users Mailing List
> > Objet : [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re: [PMX: #] Re: FlexWiki Site
> >
> > Ah, yes, I have used that mirror occasionally.
> >
> > I guess that my concern would be whether or not the project is just
> > dead and I should use screwtape wiki next time. The actual website
> > being down for months is pretty indicative...
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > Joe Gasper wrote:
> >> A good portion of the old site can be found here:
> >>
> >> http://ods.dyndns.org/FlexWiki/default.aspx/OdsWiki/HomePage.html
> >> (thanks John :-)
> >>
> >> -Joe
> >>
> >> --
> >> From: "Adam Brazier" 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:49 AM
> >> To: "FlexWiki Users Mailing List"
> >> 
> >> Cc: "David Ornstein" 
> >> Subject: [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re:  FlexWiki Site
> >>
> >>
> >>> I believe that I've emailed him before and not received an answer.
> >>> It's been a long time now that the site's been down, unfortunately.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Adam Brazier
> >>>
> >>> John Davidson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I guess you need to ask David Ornstein at Microsoft as they provide
> >>>> the site infrastructure.
> >>>>
> >>>> John Davidson
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Helen Ersando  >>>> <mailto:hpersa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>>When will the flexwiki <http://www.flexwiki.com/>site be
> >>>> available?
> >>>>
> >>>&

Re: [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re: [PMX: #] Re: FlexWiki Site

2010-02-03 Thread Lionel Cuir 
A little misunderstanding - I was not speaking of reusing the flexwiki.com
domain name, but to create a new site with flexwiki.com content. Is the
result the same, ie do we need MS approval for that? I'm thinking while
writing, but I'm afraid the answer is yes (I'm not a lawyer...).

Lionel

-Message d'origine-
De : John Davidson [mailto:jwdavid...@gmail.com] 
Envoyé : mardi 2 février 2010 18:26
À : FlexWiki Users Mailing List
Objet : Re: [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re: [PMX: #] Re: FlexWiki Site

Microsoft owns the copyrights and the domain. For that reason it is not
possible to create a new site using FlexWiki.com

Screwturn wiki has just complete a major upgrade to their codebase which
unprimed the capability to add new features. I have not done full
comparision but the main difference is the lack of WikiTalk functionality.
It may be possible to include the most important features using LINQ, which
would allow keyword selection.

It would be good if David would let us know microsft's intentions

John Davidson

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-02-02, at 11:36, "Lionel Cuir"  wrote:

> Well, that would not be a problem to open up a site with the old 
> content.
> But can we, legally speaking - we may need to get John agreement.  
> John, if
> you read us...
>
> Adam, screwtape is missing a nice feature - autolinking between pages 
> (ie, no need to explicitely declare a word as being a link to another 
> wiki page).
> But stop me if I'm wrong.
>
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Adam Brazier [mailto:abraz...@astro.cornell.edu]
> Envoyé : mardi 2 février 2010 16:33
> À : FlexWiki Users Mailing List
> Objet : [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re: [PMX: #] Re: FlexWiki Site
>
> Ah, yes, I have used that mirror occasionally.
>
> I guess that my concern would be whether or not the project is just 
> dead and I should use screwtape wiki next time. The actual website 
> being down for months is pretty indicative...
>
> Cheers
>
> Adam
>
> Joe Gasper wrote:
>> A good portion of the old site can be found here:
>>
>> http://ods.dyndns.org/FlexWiki/default.aspx/OdsWiki/HomePage.html
>> (thanks John :-)
>>
>> -Joe
>>
>> --
>> From: "Adam Brazier" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:49 AM
>> To: "FlexWiki Users Mailing List"
>> 
>> Cc: "David Ornstein" 
>> Subject: [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re:  FlexWiki Site
>>
>>
>>> I believe that I've emailed him before and not received an answer.
>>> It's been a long time now that the site's been down, unfortunately.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Adam Brazier
>>>
>>> John Davidson wrote:
>>>
>>>> I guess you need to ask David Ornstein at Microsoft as they provide 
>>>> the site infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>> John Davidson
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Helen Ersando >>> <mailto:hpersa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>When will the flexwiki <http://www.flexwiki.com/>site be 
>>>> available?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Helen
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re: [PMX: #] Re: FlexWiki Site

2010-02-02 Thread John Davidson 
Microsoft owns the copyrights and the domain. For that reason it is  
not possible to create a new site using FlexWiki.com

Screwturn wiki has just complete a major upgrade to their codebase  
which unprimed the capability to add new features. I have not done  
full comparision but the main difference is the lack of WikiTalk  
functionality. It may be possible to include the most important  
features using LINQ, which would allow keyword selection.

It would be good if David would let us know microsft's intentions

John Davidson

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-02-02, at 11:36, "Lionel Cuir"  wrote:

> Well, that would not be a problem to open up a site with the old  
> content.
> But can we, legally speaking - we may need to get John agreement.  
> John, if
> you read us...
>
> Adam, screwtape is missing a nice feature - autolinking between  
> pages (ie,
> no need to explicitely declare a word as being a link to another  
> wiki page).
> But stop me if I'm wrong.
>
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Adam Brazier [mailto:abraz...@astro.cornell.edu]
> Envoyé : mardi 2 février 2010 16:33
> À : FlexWiki Users Mailing List
> Objet : [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re: [PMX: #] Re: FlexWiki Site
>
> Ah, yes, I have used that mirror occasionally.
>
> I guess that my concern would be whether or not the project is just  
> dead and
> I should use screwtape wiki next time. The actual website being down  
> for
> months is pretty indicative...
>
> Cheers
>
> Adam
>
> Joe Gasper wrote:
>> A good portion of the old site can be found here:
>>
>> http://ods.dyndns.org/FlexWiki/default.aspx/OdsWiki/HomePage.html
>> (thanks John :-)
>>
>> -Joe
>>
>> --
>> From: "Adam Brazier" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:49 AM
>> To: "FlexWiki Users Mailing List"
>> 
>> Cc: "David Ornstein" 
>> Subject: [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re:  FlexWiki Site
>>
>>
>>> I believe that I've emailed him before and not received an answer.
>>> It's been a long time now that the site's been down, unfortunately.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Adam Brazier
>>>
>>> John Davidson wrote:
>>>
>>>> I guess you need to ask David Ornstein at Microsoft as they provide
>>>> the site infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>> John Davidson
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Helen Ersando >>> <mailto:hpersa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>When will the flexwiki <http://www.flexwiki.com/>site be  
>>>> available?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Helen
>>>>
>>>>
> --- 
> --- 
> --
> --
>>>>The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage,  
>>>> colocation
>>>>Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in
>>>>the business
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>>>><mailto:Flexwiki-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
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>>>>
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Re: [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re: [PMX: #] Re: FlexWiki Site

2010-02-02 Thread Lionel Cuir 
Well, that would not be a problem to open up a site with the old content.
But can we, legally speaking - we may need to get John agreement. John, if
you read us...

Adam, screwtape is missing a nice feature - autolinking between pages (ie,
no need to explicitely declare a word as being a link to another wiki page).
But stop me if I'm wrong.


-Message d'origine-
De : Adam Brazier [mailto:abraz...@astro.cornell.edu] 
Envoyé : mardi 2 février 2010 16:33
À : FlexWiki Users Mailing List
Objet : [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re: [PMX: #] Re: FlexWiki Site

Ah, yes, I have used that mirror occasionally.

I guess that my concern would be whether or not the project is just dead and
I should use screwtape wiki next time. The actual website being down for
months is pretty indicative...

Cheers

Adam

Joe Gasper wrote:
> A good portion of the old site can be found here:
>
> http://ods.dyndns.org/FlexWiki/default.aspx/OdsWiki/HomePage.html
> (thanks John :-)
>
> -Joe
>
> --
> From: "Adam Brazier" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:49 AM
> To: "FlexWiki Users Mailing List" 
> 
> Cc: "David Ornstein" 
> Subject: [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re:  FlexWiki Site
>
>   
>> I believe that I've emailed him before and not received an answer. 
>> It's been a long time now that the site's been down, unfortunately.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Adam Brazier
>>
>> John Davidson wrote:
>> 
>>> I guess you need to ask David Ornstein at Microsoft as they provide 
>>> the site infrastructure.
>>>
>>> John Davidson
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Helen Ersando >> <mailto:hpersa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> When will the flexwiki <http://www.flexwiki.com/>site be available?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Helen
>>>
>>>

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>>> 
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[Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re: [PMX: #] Re: FlexWiki Site

2010-02-02 Thread Adam Brazier 
Ah, yes, I have used that mirror occasionally.

I guess that my concern would be whether or not the project is just dead 
and I should use screwtape wiki next time. The actual website being down 
for months is pretty indicative...

Cheers

Adam

Joe Gasper wrote:
> A good portion of the old site can be found here:
>
> http://ods.dyndns.org/FlexWiki/default.aspx/OdsWiki/HomePage.html
> (thanks John :-)
>
> -Joe
>
> --
> From: "Adam Brazier" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:49 AM
> To: "FlexWiki Users Mailing List" 
> Cc: "David Ornstein" 
> Subject: [Flexwiki-users] [PMX: #] Re:  FlexWiki Site
>
>   
>> I believe that I've emailed him before and not received an answer. It's
>> been a long time now that the site's been down, unfortunately.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Adam Brazier
>>
>> John Davidson wrote:
>> 
>>> I guess you need to ask David Ornstein at Microsoft as they provide
>>> the site infrastructure.
>>>
>>> John Davidson
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Helen Ersando >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> When will the flexwiki site be available?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Helen
>>>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation
>>> Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in
>>> the business
>>> Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term
>>> contracts
>>> Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone
>>> call away.
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com
>>> ___
>>> Flexwiki-users mailing list
>>> Flexwiki-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> 
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flexwiki-users
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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>>> business
>>> Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts
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>> 
>
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