Re: [Flightgear-devel] MD-11 cockpit
Hi Innis, On Mon, 17 May 2004 10:13:25 +0800 Innis Cunningham wrote: > >When doing my B717, I used qcad to measure things from these > >drawings. Like engine placement, pilot viewpoint and also got me > >started with the 3D model (which isn't finished yet, so if someone > >wants to finish the 3D model... raise your hand :-) > >The jsbsim aero file should be quite flyable. > > > >so... any takers for the 3D model ? Its in Blender format. > You can send it to me but I doubt I would get to it for a > month or so till I am finished what I am currently working on. > If you send it could you send it in AC3D(prefered) or DXF. Its available here: http://cockpit.varxec.de/fgfs/fgfs_717-200_71.blend.gz (just the blenderfile, gzipped) http://cockpit.varxec.de/fgfs/fgfs_717-200.tar.bz2 (fdm, engine config, and 3d model in .ac format) Note that I haven't touched the model since September... so the JSBSim configs will have to be converted to the new format. The directory layout may also have to be changed. I currently don't have a recent flightgear checkout (my computer needs updating in the hardware area as well to allow me to enjoy flightgear again), so I can't do much right now. Most of my free time is currently going into PHCC, my home cockpit interface project for flightgear: http://cockpit.varxec.de/PHCC.html (If you are more interested in this project, join the sim-hardware list: http://m18s17.vlinux.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sim-hardware ) Innis and Ampere, thanks for taking a look at my model... Manuel ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] MD-11 cockpit
> Have you checked this page: > http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/aircompat/3d_view.html > > It contains .dxf drawings of the different Boeings (and MD/DCs) A GOLD MINE! I searched high and low and I have never found stuff like that... and it is so close too! I visit the Boeing's website practically everyday! With the DXF files, I can do some shape merging in 3D Studio and get a 100% accurate model! > When doing my B717, I used qcad to measure things from these drawings. > Like engine placement, pilot viewpoint and also got me started with > the 3D model (which isn't finished yet, so if someone wants to finish > the 3D model... raise your hand :-) > The jsbsim aero file should be quite flyable. > > so... any takers for the 3D model ? Its in Blender format. > I wouldn't mind taking a look at it, although I will have to finish the MD-11 first. That may take a while. Thanks, Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] MD-11 cockpit
Hi Manuel Manuel Bessler Writes When doing my B717, I used qcad to measure things from these drawings. Like engine placement, pilot viewpoint and also got me started with the 3D model (which isn't finished yet, so if someone wants to finish the 3D model... raise your hand :-) The jsbsim aero file should be quite flyable. so... any takers for the 3D model ? Its in Blender format. You can send it to me but I doubt I would get to it for a month or so till I am finished what I am currently working on. If you send it could you send it in AC3D(prefered) or DXF. Regards, Manuel Cheers Innis _ Personalise your phone with chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ringtones.com.au/ninemsn/control?page=/ninemsn/main.jsp ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] MD-11 cockpit
On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 07:09:21PM -0400, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: > I have been doing some hunting lately; namely, looking for information > regarding the MD-11's flightdeck: dimensions, layout, technical diagrams, > etc. I have tried many search keywords on the Internet, my local library, as > well as my university's library. So far, I have no luck. Have you checked this page: http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/aircompat/3d_view.html It contains .dxf drawings of the different Boeings (and MD/DCs) When doing my B717, I used qcad to measure things from these drawings. Like engine placement, pilot viewpoint and also got me started with the 3D model (which isn't finished yet, so if someone wants to finish the 3D model... raise your hand :-) The jsbsim aero file should be quite flyable. so... any takers for the 3D model ? Its in Blender format. Regards, Manuel ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] MD-11 cockpit
> I can't help you with dimensions or technical diagrams or stuff like that. > But since you included layout, and said you've had no luck, did you try > a Google "Images" search? I know that images of the panel are not as > useful as detailed layout info; but hey, better than nothing. Through a > Google "Images" search, I got some panel images that way; to whit, > > http://agrosz.com/md11/gallery/cockpit1large.jpg > http://agrosz.com/md11/gallery/cockpit2large.jpg > http://agrosz.com/md11/gallery/cockpit3large.jpg > http://agrosz.com/md11/gallery/cockpit4large.jpg > > Also, going here: > > http://airliners.net/search/ > > and doing a search on "McDonnell Douglass MD-11" as the Aircraft Type, > and "Flight Decks (Cockpits)" as the Category, got me 127 different MD-11 > cockpit photos, including close-ups of various parts of the hardware. > I think I must have used the word "layout" incorrectly. I mean layout, as in 2D overhead drawings of the cockpit, like schematics. I have seen all the photos on airliners.net, as well as those on jetphotots.net. They give me an idea of what the cockpit of a MD-11 should look like, but they aren't helpful in modelling. Thanks anyway though. > Here's an (unfortunately fairly small) diagram of the captain's > panel: > > http://www.si-properties.com/sat98/images/news_16-10-98_cockpit.jpg > That's one of the things that I have been looking for since this morning. Thanks! =) Funny that when you don't need something (yet), they keep showing up. When you actually look them up, they don't seem to exist. Thanks, Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] MD-11 cockpit
On Sat, 15 May 2004 19:09:21 -0400 "Ampere K. Hardraade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have been doing some hunting lately; namely, looking for information > regarding the MD-11's flightdeck: dimensions, layout, technical > diagrams, etc. I have tried many search keywords on the Internet, my > local library, as well as my university's library. So far, I have no > luck. > > I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find the above information. I can't help you with dimensions or technical diagrams or stuff like that. But since you included layout, and said you've had no luck, did you try a Google "Images" search? I know that images of the panel are not as useful as detailed layout info; but hey, better than nothing. Through a Google "Images" search, I got some panel images that way; to whit, http://agrosz.com/md11/gallery/cockpit1large.jpg http://agrosz.com/md11/gallery/cockpit2large.jpg http://agrosz.com/md11/gallery/cockpit3large.jpg http://agrosz.com/md11/gallery/cockpit4large.jpg Also, going here: http://airliners.net/search/ and doing a search on "McDonnell Douglass MD-11" as the Aircraft Type, and "Flight Decks (Cockpits)" as the Category, got me 127 different MD-11 cockpit photos, including close-ups of various parts of the hardware. Here's an (unfortunately fairly small) diagram of the captain's panel: http://www.si-properties.com/sat98/images/news_16-10-98_cockpit.jpg Here are some other photos that maybe useful: tttp://www.thaiops.com/images/tcas1.jpg http://www.thaiops.com/images/tcas2.jpg http://www.tsb.gc.ca/en/media/photo_database/A98H0003/md_11/md11_5.asp http://www.lindauer-fly.ch/ck_swiss_md11.htm These people, for $25, seem to sell a poster that reproduces the cockpit instrumentation layout in detail: http://www.avsoft.net/md%2011%20stuff.htm I hope some of this is helpful. -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear pgp3iJRZGKLPV.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] MD-11 cockpit
I have been doing some hunting lately; namely, looking for information regarding the MD-11's flightdeck: dimensions, layout, technical diagrams, etc. I have tried many search keywords on the Internet, my local library, as well as my university's library. So far, I have no luck. I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find the above information. Regards, Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel