Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS
John Check <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 25 February 2003 2:22 pm, Martin Spott wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > Modified Files: >> >f16.xml >> > Log Message: >> > improved f-16 from Erik Hofman >> >> Oh, _very_ nice, but eerm, did anyone manage to get the beast off >> the runway without crashing _before_ take-off ? Is it possible ? >> > I dunno, did you try flying it? Does it? I don't even manage to hold the plane upright until liftoff ;-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Fri Mar 21 17:41:54 EST 2003 > Author: cvsroot > Update of /home/cvsroot/FlightGear/FlightGear > In directory dot:/tmp/cvs-serv16383 > Modified Files: > options.xml > Log Message: > Updated options from Erik Hofman In some cases it would be _very_ useful for those who try to manage the manual if there was a diff attached to the CVS 'loginfo' messages ;-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] RE: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear/Docs
> Log Message: > Add Carsten Hoefer's excellent flight tutorial to help system Thanks, John! I hope Carsten will find time to go on with it later. Michael -- Michael Basler, Jena, Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/pmb.geo/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear
Martin Spott wrote: Modified Files: options.xml Log Message: Updated options from Erik Hofman In some cases it would be _very_ useful for those who try to manage the manual if there was a diff attached to the CVS 'loginfo' messages ;-) I've added the command line options for MultiPlayer support. A more comprehensive description can be found in docs-mini/README.multiplayer Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft'
Was this a mistake? Best, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Date: Tue Jun 11 13:06:29 EDT 2002 > Author: cvsroot > > Update of /home/cvsroot/FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft > In directory bitless:/tmp/cvslck/cvs-serv8782/Aircraft > > Modified Files: > X15-set.xml > Log Message: > Command line help screen now xml driven > > ___ > Flightgear-cvslogs mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-cvslogs > ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear'
On 1/2/03 at 11:52 AM Curtis L. Olson wrote: >David, > >Another feature request would be to create a volume and on/off switch >property and honor them. Volume could go from 0.0 - 1.0 scaled >appropriately, and on/off is pretty self explanitory. It would also >be nice to have a "servicable" property so we can fail comm1 or comm2. > >Then if anyone is trying to hook flightgear up to real hardware, the >comm audio knobs and on/off switch will work as expected. :-) > OK. Cheers - Dave ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear'
On 1/2/03 at 11:52 AM Curtis L. Olson wrote: >Another feature request would be to create a volume and on/off switch >property and honor them. Volume could go from 0.0 - 1.0 scaled BTW, can you hear the audio ATIS OK on your Linux box? There have been a few problems reported with it over Christmas which I can't reproduce. Cheers - Dave ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear'
David Luff writes: > On 1/2/03 at 11:52 AM Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > >Another feature request would be to create a volume and on/off switch > >property and honor them. Volume could go from 0.0 - 1.0 scaled > > BTW, can you hear the audio ATIS OK on your Linux box? There have been a > few problems reported with it over Christmas which I can't reproduce. Personally, I can hear it ok, but a volume control would be really nice. This is really simple to impliment too ... we do it already for the morse code audio idents. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] RE: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear/Docs
Does this mean, the document is also part of cvs? Can anyone give me a hand on how to continue writing using cvs? Where do I have to send or put new chapters? Thanks, Carsten Michael Basler schrieb: > > > Log Message: > > Add Carsten Hoefer's excellent flight tutorial to help > system > > Thanks, John! > > I hope Carsten will find time to go on with it later. > > Michael > > -- > Michael Basler, Jena, Germany > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.geocities.com/pmb.geo/ > > > > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel > ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] RE: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear/Docs
Carsten, > Does this mean, the document is also part of cvs? Luckily, indeed. Plus, it certainly will become part of the next official release (if you don't object, of course). > Can anyone give me a hand on how to continue writing using cvs? > Where do I have to send or put new chapters? Instructions on how to get the CVS version of the base archive are at http://rockfish.net/fg/. The simplest way to submit changes would be to send them via mail to John Check, [EMAIL PROTECTED], who maintains the base archive. Usually, he reacts very quickly by adding the files. Regards, Michael -- Michael Basler, Jena, Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/pmb.geo/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/f16
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Modified Files: > f16.xml > Log Message: > improved f-16 from Erik Hofman Oh, _very_ nice, but eerm, did anyone manage to get the beast off the runway without crashing _before_ take-off ? Is it possible ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/f16'
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Sun Sep 22 11:21:02 EDT 2002 > Author: cvsroot > > Update of /home/cvsroot/FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/f16 > In directory bitless:/tmp/cvs-serv6423/Aircraft/f16 > > Added Files: > f16.xml > Log Message: > Latest JSBSim updates, including a thrust-only turbofan model. I think I've found what causes the instabillity in the F-16 model. It looks like the axis systems and me don't get along quite well. Somehow it always turns out to be different than what I've thought. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft-yasim'
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lee Elliott I also noticed that there don't appear to be models included for the F-104, F-15 & F-16 and I think I could probably do some and animate them for fgfs if they'd be useful. I would realy like it if someone could add 3D models for those aircraft. I've already noticed I'm just not that great at 3D modelling ... Thanks for the offer! Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/f16
Curtis L. Olson wrote: John Check writes: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 2:22 pm, Martin Spott wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Modified Files: f16.xml Log Message: improved f-16 from Erik Hofman Oh, _very_ nice, but eerm, did anyone manage to get the beast off the runway without crashing _before_ take-off ? Is it possible ? I dunno, did you try flying it? Does it? It flies fine for me but exhibits some odd behavior at the fringes of the flight regime. Ground handling has some problems to... try land braking hard at just about any speed and you will cartwheel forward. I know it still has some difficulties, but it is a hell of a lot better compared to the previous version. Yes is shoudl take-off, but the lack of flaps requires it to stay langoner on the runway. If it doesn't work, try removing the old f16.xml file before updating. I'm still in the process of imrpving it. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/f16/Panels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Added Files: > alt.xml kias.xml nozzle.xml oil.xml rpm.xml > Log Message: > f16 analog instruments and chunked background textures Oh, _this_ stuff looks neat ! Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear/Textures.high/Terrain
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erik Hofman) [2003.03.05 14:39]: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >New hi-res irregular crop texture. > > For eye-candy fetischitsts (is this an english word?) > http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/download/irrcrop.jpg Weight On Wheels -- Cameron Moore /(bb|[^b]{2})/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/f16/Panels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Wed Mar 12 16:07:34 EST 2003 > Author: cvsroot > Update of /home/cvsroot/FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/f16/Panels > In directory dash:/tmp/cvs-serv31668/f16/Panels > Modified Files: > f16-2d-panel.xml kias.xml I think, something went wrong here: quickstep: 13:10:19 ~/CVS/FlightGear> tail -15 fgfsbase/Aircraft/f16/Panels/f16-2d-panel.xml 12 12 DED 729 286 120 120 quickstep: 13:10:25 ~/CVS/FlightGear> find fgfsbase/ -name ded\.xml quickstep: 13:10:53 ~/CVS/FlightGear> When I start the F-16 using the current base package CVS I get a notice on a missing file, I don't get any panel and from outside I see the yellow and blue glider. Anything wrong with my CVS checout ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'
> Does the R have a 40 deg flap detent? My understanding is that the 40 deg flap setting (over the whole family) is actually related to max gross weight. If you want the 40 deg then you will be limited to 2300 lb; if you make do with 30 deg ... you can have more. However, as the interior gets nicer, the avionics become more complete, you add long range tanks, a larger engine, retractable gear, etc etc ... you're adding empty weight, so that after a while 2300 lb is not enough. You're then _forced_ to eliminate the 40 deg setting to be able to fly. The last ten degrees _are_ mostly drag, but that's what you need (a) to get a steep final in rugged terrain (b) for fast descents in emergency management (c) for a relatively quick flare for short fields ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'
> I don't really object to that -- except that I wonder how many folks > will be able to really tell the difference. Surely, even in the real > thing, the differences are fairly subtle. I'm also not so sure that we > have the fidelity that making that distinction implies. I recommend the split, although I'd tend to move the "P" back to "N". Analogy: Think of driving two cars - one has carb engine, the other fuel injected (you really care in winter) - one has ABS, the other does not (only matters if you brake hard) - one has sports suspension and the other regular (only for bad roads etc) In normal city traffic, you won't notice the difference. However, for emergency stuff, if you forget ... you'll probably die. When operating at full performance (eg mountain roads for skiing) ditto. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'
Alex Perry writes: > The last ten degrees _are_ mostly drag, but that's what you need > (a) to get a steep final in rugged terrain > (b) for fast descents in emergency management > (c) for a relatively quick flare for short fields Speaking of quick flares, I'm finally getting the hang of *raising* the flaps to shorten my flare on shorter fields (not when the wheels are higher than a few inches above the runway, of course). All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'
> On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 06:52, Alex Perry wrote: > > The last ten degrees _are_ mostly drag, but that's what you need > > (a) to get a steep final in rugged terrain > > (b) for fast descents in emergency management > > (c) for a relatively quick flare for short fields > (d) to keep %N1 up (for faster spool up) in a jet. I'd _love_ to have concern in a C172 (grin). ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/f16'
Tony Peden wrote: >>I think I've found what causes the instabillity in the F-16 model. It >>looks like the axis systems and me don't get along quite well. Somehow >>it always turns out to be different than what I've thought. > > > Well, hmm. Which system are you getting hung up on. Probably all. :-( I have to take a look at it some time. The F-104 file I sent you proves my suspection. It *was* wrong, and behaved exactly like the F-16. Now it works about right. BTW. DCmin should be CDalpha in that file. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/f16/Panels
Martin Spott wrote: I think, something went wrong here: It looks like it, put the following file in FlightGear/Aircraft/f16/Panels: http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/download/ded.xml Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/f16/Panels
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: >> I think, something went wrong here: > It looks like it, put the following file in FlightGear/Aircraft/f16/Panels: > http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/download/ded.xml This one does the trick for the panel. I still see the glider from outside, though, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/f16/Panels
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martin Spott wrote: I think, something went wrong here: It looks like it, put the following file in FlightGear/Aircraft/f16/Panels: http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/download/ded.xml This one does the trick for the panel. I still see the glider from outside, though, yep. Erik ;-D ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel