[Flightgear-devel] Video card recommendations

2004-12-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I hope this isn't too off topic ...
I am involved with a project where we are going to setup a multi-channel 
visual system running flightgear.  (3 PC's, 3 monitors.)  We can budget 
about $150-200 for the graphics cards, but the landscape has changed so 
much since I last shopped I'm not sure what to do.  We are committed to 
buying something nvidia/GeForce based.  The new 6800 cards are still way 
out of our price range.  The 5900/5950 cards are probably a bit high 
right now too.  But I see there area 5200's, 5500's, 5700's. and you can 
still find the older ti4600/4800 cards floating around too.  I know that 
some of these varients were designed more as low end/cheap consumer 
cards, and I'd like to get something with the best 
capability/performance I can within our budget.  Does anyone have any 
recommendations?

Thanks,
Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Video card recommendations

2004-12-17 Thread Dave Martin
May I suggest looking out for GeForce FX5800Us.

Myself and a friend managed to pick an unused pair up a few months ago for 
very little money and they are quite frankly 'storming' cards.

They have a 500Mhz GPU and 1000Mhz (DDR) memory on 128bit bus and manage to 
keep up with the higher-spec 5900/U's by using sheer brute-force clocks 
rather than wider memory busses.

The catch with the card is the FlowFX system which is *fairly* noisy but not 
louder than a modern air-cooled high-performance PC.

Plus they run a treat with Linux and are fully supported by the Nvidia driver 
set including temp sensing etc. 


On Friday 17 Dec 2004 23:36, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
> I hope this isn't too off topic ...
>
> I am involved with a project where we are going to setup a multi-channel
> visual system running flightgear.  (3 PC's, 3 monitors.)  We can budget
> about $150-200 for the graphics cards, but the landscape has changed so
> much since I last shopped I'm not sure what to do.  We are committed to
> buying something nvidia/GeForce based.  The new 6800 cards are still way
> out of our price range.  The 5900/5950 cards are probably a bit high
> right now too.  But I see there area 5200's, 5500's, 5700's. and you can
> still find the older ti4600/4800 cards floating around too.  I know that
> some of these varients were designed more as low end/cheap consumer
> cards, and I'd like to get something with the best
> capability/performance I can within our budget.  Does anyone have any
> recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Curt.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Video card recommendations

2004-12-17 Thread Matthew Law
Curt,
Given the budget and assuming the prices over this side of the pond 
aren't too different to you, I'd go for something like this:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69123E0A
I like Gainward cards.  They usually use better quality, slightly faster 
RAM which allows them to be clocked up a little while still remaining 
stable.

All the best,
Matthew.
Curtis L. Olson wrote:
I hope this isn't too off topic ...
I am involved with a project where we are going to setup a 
multi-channel visual system running flightgear.  (3 PC's, 3 
monitors.)  We can budget about $150-200 for the graphics cards, but 
the landscape has changed so much since I last shopped I'm not sure 
what to do.  We are committed to buying something nvidia/GeForce 
based.  The new 6800 cards are still way out of our price range.  The 
5900/5950 cards are probably a bit high right now too.  But I see 
there area 5200's, 5500's, 5700's. and you can still find the older 
ti4600/4800 cards floating around too.  I know that some of these 
varients were designed more as low end/cheap consumer cards, and I'd 
like to get something with the best capability/performance I can 
within our budget.  Does anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks,
Curt.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Video card recommendations

2004-12-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 00:13:59 +, Dave wrote in message 
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> May I suggest looking out for GeForce FX5800Us.
> 
> Myself and a friend managed to pick an unused pair up a few months ago
> for very little money and they are quite frankly 'storming' cards.
> 
> They have a 500Mhz GPU and 1000Mhz (DDR) memory on 128bit bus and
> manage to keep up with the higher-spec 5900/U's by using sheer
> brute-force clocks rather than wider memory busses.
> 
> The catch with the card is the FlowFX system which is *fairly* noisy
> but not louder than a modern air-cooled high-performance PC.
> 
> Plus they run a treat with Linux and are fully supported by the Nvidia
> driver set including temp sensing etc. 

..these are Nvidia clones, which chip?

> 
> On Friday 17 Dec 2004 23:36, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
> > I hope this isn't too off topic ...
> >
> > I am involved with a project where we are going to setup a
> > multi-channel visual system running flightgear.  (3 PC's, 3
> > monitors.)  We can budget about $150-200 for the graphics cards, but
> > the landscape has changed so much since I last shopped I'm not sure
> > what to do.  We are committed to buying something nvidia/GeForce
> > based.  The new 6800 cards are still way out of our price range. 
> > The 5900/5950 cards are probably a bit high right now too.  But I
> > see there area 5200's, 5500's, 5700's. and you can still find the
> > older ti4600/4800 cards floating around too.  I know that some of
> > these varients were designed more as low end/cheap consumer cards,
> > and I'd like to get something with the best capability/performance I
> > can within our budget.  Does anyone have any recommendations?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Curt.
> 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Video card recommendations

2004-12-17 Thread Dave Martin
On Saturday 18 Dec 2004 00:46, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

> ..these are Nvidia clones, which chip?

They are not clones, in fact they are Nvidia produced PCBs (the only card they 
ever contracted for self manufacture.

The only components the OEMs were allowed to alter were the back-planes and 
coolers (although most retained the Nvidia FlowFX).

The chip is an Nvidia NV30.

AGP 8x
Core: 500Mhz
Pipes: 4
TMU/Pipe: 2
Transitors: 125Million in 0.13µm die.
Memory: 500Mhz 128bit DDR II (1000Mhz over 2 banks).
Bandwidth: 16~48GB/s

The card was not a commercial success since Nvidia controlled the production, 
hence they're now cheap and the NV3x series is all OEM produced. (Not to 
mention the huge copper heatsink/pipe, 2xpci backplane and ducted rear 
intake/exhaust (loud) fan housing.

Through extensive testing we have proven the performance to be equal with a 
5900U at standard clocks. :)

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] Video card recommendations

2004-12-17 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes:
> 
> I am involved with a project where we are going to setup a multi-channel 
> visual system running flightgear.  (3 PC's, 3 monitors.)  We can budget 
> about $150-200 for the graphics cards, but the landscape has changed so 
> much since I last shopped I'm not sure what to do.  We are committed to 
> buying something nvidia/GeForce based.  The new 6800 cards are still way 
> out of our price range.  The 5900/5950 cards are probably a bit high 
> right now too.  But I see there area 5200's, 5500's, 5700's. and you can 
> still find the older ti4600/4800 cards floating around too.  I know that 
> some of these varients were designed more as low end/cheap consumer 
> cards, and I'd like to get something with the best 
> capability/performance I can within our budget.  Does anyone have any 
> recommendations?

If you have PCI motherboards  this looks like it will deliver
the most bang for the buck
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2300

Norman

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Video card recommendations

2004-12-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 00:20:44 -0500, Norman wrote in message 
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> Curtis L. Olson writes:
> > 
> > I am involved with a project where we are going to setup a
> > multi-channel visual system running flightgear.  (3 PC's, 3
> > monitors.)  We can budget about $150-200 for the graphics cards, but
> > the landscape has changed so much since I last shopped I'm not sure
> > what to do.  We are committed to buying something nvidia/GeForce
> > based.  The new 6800 cards are still way out of our price range. 
> > The 5900/5950 cards are probably a bit high right now too.  But I
> > see there area 5200's, 5500's, 5700's. and you can still find the
> > older ti4600/4800 cards floating around too.  I know that some of
> > these varients were designed more as low end/cheap consumer cards,
> > and I'd like to get something with the best capability/performance I
> > can within our budget.  Does anyone have any recommendations?
> 
> If you have PCI motherboards  this looks like it will deliver
> the most bang for the buck
> http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2300

.._if_ it fits in your PCI slots; http://www.adexelec.com/faq.htm ,
above winner of this google:
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=PCI-X+PCI+3.3V+5V+universal+slot+spec
shows a few PCI and PCI-X variants.


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