Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss, was: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 10:04, Matthew Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 04:19, Tony Peden wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 14:08, David Megginson wrote: Matthew Johnson writes: Good point, something goes wrong on a commercial airliner very few, if anyone ever gets out alive... Not at all. Things go wrong in airliners flown by scheduled carriers all the time, and usually no one suffers anything more than stress from a delay or rerouting. Injuries and fatalities are very rare in scheduled airline incidents or accidents. Yep, several failures/circumstances generally have to stack up in order for something bad to happen. Anyone see Anatomy of a Disaster about flight 587? Not sure how technical it was, but the program seem to suggest that modern composite fibers aren't as strong as aluminum. I saw a bit of it ... they showed some testing they did in which they calculated the loads on the tail. They exceeded the design ultimate load, which means that any other material would have failed too. Material selection was, in this case, irrelevant. Matt ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Tony Peden [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss, was: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 14:08, David Megginson wrote: Matthew Johnson writes: Good point, something goes wrong on a commercial airliner very few, if anyone ever gets out alive... Not at all. Things go wrong in airliners flown by scheduled carriers all the time, and usually no one suffers anything more than stress from a delay or rerouting. Injuries and fatalities are very rare in scheduled airline incidents or accidents. Yep, several failures/circumstances generally have to stack up in order for something bad to happen. All the best, David ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Tony Peden [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss, was: [Flightgear-devel][OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 01:25, Matevz Jekovec wrote: Not at all. Things go wrong in airliners flown by scheduled carriers all the time, and usually no one suffers anything more than stress from a delay or rerouting. Injuries and fatalities are very rare in scheduled airline incidents or accidents. Didn't you watch Die Hard 2 (the Christmas one) and the flying everywhere present Bruce??? :) Yes, if you see Bruce Willis on the plane ask to leave :). I should have phrased my thoughts a little better, any major failure on a commercial airline tends to result in heavy loss of life...Although I'd think there are far less id10t's in the air compared to driving... Matt ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss, was: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 04:19, Tony Peden wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 14:08, David Megginson wrote: Matthew Johnson writes: Good point, something goes wrong on a commercial airliner very few, if anyone ever gets out alive... Not at all. Things go wrong in airliners flown by scheduled carriers all the time, and usually no one suffers anything more than stress from a delay or rerouting. Injuries and fatalities are very rare in scheduled airline incidents or accidents. Yep, several failures/circumstances generally have to stack up in order for something bad to happen. Anyone see Anatomy of a Disaster about flight 587? Not sure how technical it was, but the program seem to suggest that modern composite fibers aren't as strong as aluminum. Matt ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss, was: [Flightgear-devel][OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com
Matthew Johnson writes: Yes, if you see Bruce Willis on the plane ask to leave :). I should have phrased my thoughts a little better, any major failure on a commercial airline tends to result in heavy loss of life...Although I'd think there are far less id10t's in the air compared to driving... There are some (extremely rare) major failures that cause loss of life all by themselves, such as a wing or stabilizer falling off, but typically it takes a chain of failures, major or minor, to cause loss of life on an airliner -- there is a mind-boggling amount of redundancy built into their systems. All the best, David ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss, was: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 11:11, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Arnt Karlsen writes: On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:09:51 -0500, Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ..to put it short: picture yourself on your single seat bike going full bore on the freeway just like Wintendo does on on your PC. (For multi-user os'es, substitute bike for automobile, bus etc, as you see fit.) ..now, going full bore, for every Bluescreen Of Death[Tm] you have ever seen on your box, picture having someone instead of the BOD, toss a bucket of blue paint in your face. ..how many of you guys would be alive today? ;-) Is it just the paint, or is it the bucket with the paint inside being tossed? Because that makes a big difference. Paint followed by the empty bucket? But that speaks to the point. With a 747 people's lives are actually at stake. With microsoft's email software, that is usually not the case (although there are plenty of individual instances where people's lives depend on software, but that's not what we are talking about here.) Good point, something goes wrong on a commercial airliner very few, if anyone ever gets out alive...So having more than one company in competition is a must have. The biggest problem with MSFT, its a monopoly. Boeing and Airbus actually compete, although I do wish McDonnell Douglas was still around though. Matt ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss, was: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com
Matthew Johnson writes: Good point, something goes wrong on a commercial airliner very few, if anyone ever gets out alive... Not at all. Things go wrong in airliners flown by scheduled carriers all the time, and usually no one suffers anything more than stress from a delay or rerouting. Injuries and fatalities are very rare in scheduled airline incidents or accidents. All the best, David ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel