Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html, 1.6,
Martin Spott writes: > "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/www/Docs/InstallGuide > > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv19466/Docs/InstallGuide > > > Modified Files: > > getstart.html getstartap1.html getstartap2.html > > getstartap3.html getstartch1.html getstartch2.html > > getstartch3.html getstartch4.html getstartch5.html > > getstartli1.html getstartli2.html getstartli3.html > > getstartpa1.html getstartpa2.html getstartpa3.html > > Hello Curt, you know that you probably have to redo these on a new > version of the manual because I assume I can't reproduce your changes > with the LaTeX to HTML converter !? Yup, don't worry about the header/footer stuff when you kick out a new version of the manual. If I can't figure out how to easily automate adding them back in, I'll just drop the standard TOC and header / footer stuff for the installation guide. That shouldn't be a big problem. If people want to print out from the HTML (for some reason) it might be nicer not to have the extraneous wrappers anyway. Thanks, Curt. -- Curtis Olson HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Citiescurt 'at' me.umn.edu curt 'at' flightgear.org Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html
Norman Vine wrote: > > Michael Basler writes: > > > > > Christian Mayer wrote: > > > > > This gives ma an idea: > > > > > > Render only the @ to a picture and include this picture instead of the > > > real @ sign in the address. I think this should fool enough > > > address-harvesters. > > > > Sounds like a cool idea as I'll only have to make one little pic saving us > > disk space/bandwidth. I'll see how it works out. > > Why not just use ' at ' instead of '@' > > note spaces surrounding 'at' Many are doing that - so I expect address-harvesters to take that into account... But to make them figure aout that "some_word other_word" is an email address and not something else requires vaery sophisticated logic. CU, Christian -- The idea is to die young as late as possible.-- Ashley Montague ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html
Norman, > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Norman Vine > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Why not just use ' at ' instead of '@' > > note spaces surrounding 'at' > Something similar already occured to me but I've dismissed it as being to ugly. If those named there don't care I could implement it quickly of course. Regards, Michael -- Michael Basler, Jena, Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/pmb.geo/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html
Michael Basler writes: > > > Christian Mayer wrote: > > > This gives ma an idea: > > > > Render only the @ to a picture and include this picture instead of the > > real @ sign in the address. I think this should fool enough > > address-harvesters. > > Sounds like a cool idea as I'll only have to make one little pic saving us > disk space/bandwidth. I'll see how it works out. Why not just use ' at ' instead of '@' note spaces surrounding 'at' Norman ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html
Christian, > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian > Mayer > This gives ma an idea: > > Render only the @ to a picture and include this picture instead of the > real @ sign in the address. I think this should fool enough > address-harvesters. Sounds like a cool idea as I'll only have to make one little pic saving us disk space/bandwidth. I'll see how it works out. Thanks and regards Michael -- Michael Basler, Jena, Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/pmb.geo/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html
Michael Basler wrote: > > I tried this. It was still recognizable after conversion in the HTML. I > simply searched for my address (Ctrl-GF in IE) and it was found :-( I tried > several font changes etc. which all did not hide the address. > > A clever sign for/aft the @ being invisible but masking the address might > help, too. This gives ma an idea: Render only the @ to a picture and include this picture instead of the real @ sign in the address. I think this should fool enough address-harvesters. CU, Christian -- The idea is to die young as late as possible.-- Ashley Montague ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html
Curt, > Could you fake something as an equation: > > $ curt\@flightgear.org $ > > latex2html would convert this to a graphic automatically ... although > in equation mode you have to worry about things getting interpreted as > equations and variables ... Yes, latex2html does, but tex4ht which I use does not, at least not for simple one-liners (which some consider an advantage). I might look into the options if there's something hidden or if I can trick it into creating gifs. It does for square roots and more complicated stuff. The idea looks pretty indeed. I'll keep it, and when I'll find some time I'll try once more to get latex2html running under MiKTeX (it is possible, just non-trivial) or might even consider switching to fptex which is sort of tetex for windows, which has some flaws, too, but comes with a pre-installed latex2html (which last switch might be non-trivial as I need LaTeX for some business stuff, though). BTW, this problem does concern all addresses somewhere on the FlightGear pages... Thanks, Michael -- Michael Basler, Jena, Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/pmb.geo/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html
Michael Basler writes: > Chrisitan, > > > Well, I think even addresses like > > > > something @ something.com > > > > aren't save against spammers. > > I guessed it. > > > So far the best recepie is to convert the address to little pixel > > graphics and to include the images on the page. > > ...which 100 or so graphics you are going to create...? ... and to > maintain...? > > I am open for constructive ideas, though, which (a) should be able to > implement via LaTeX without manual postediting of the HTML code (b) simple > to implement and maintain. Michael, Could you fake something as an equation: $ curt\@flightgear.org $ latex2html would convert this to a graphic automatically ... although in equation mode you have to worry about things getting interpreted as equations and variables ... Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html
Christian, > Including images in LaTeX is no problem - that just leaves us with the > problem how we are generating the images... Exactly. Although the HTML converter might become a bit slow with 100+ pix. Perhaps no serious problem. > I'm sure that one of the Unix gurus knows a fast way to do that with a > command line utility... In this case I'd sure co-operate. But still: Adresses have to be maintained. > PS: Could the math mode in LaTeX perhaps help? Or does it translate to > an ordinary italic when the stff written in it is simple? I tried this. It was still recognizable after conversion in the HTML. I simply searched for my address (Ctrl-GF in IE) and it was found :-( I tried several font changes etc. which all did not hide the address. A clever sign for/aft the @ being invisible but masking the address might help, too. Regards, Michael -- Michael Basler, Jena, Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/pmb.geo/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html
Michael Basler wrote: > > Chrisitan, > > > Well, I think even addresses like > > > > something @ something.com > > > > aren't save against spammers. > > I guessed it. > > > So far the best recepie is to convert the address to little pixel > > graphics and to include the images on the page. > > ...which 100 or so graphics you are going to create...? ... and to > maintain...? > > I am open for constructive ideas, though, which (a) should be able to > implement via LaTeX without manual postediting of the HTML code (b) simple > to implement and maintain. Including images in LaTeX is no problem - that just leaves us with the problem how we are generating the images... I'm sure that one of the Unix gurus knows a fast way to do that with a command line utility... CU, Christian PS: Could the math mode in LaTeX perhaps help? Or does it translate to an ordinary italic when the stff written in it is simple? -- The idea is to die young as late as possible.-- Ashley Montague ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html
Chrisitan, > Well, I think even addresses like > > something @ something.com > > aren't save against spammers. I guessed it. > So far the best recepie is to convert the address to little pixel > graphics and to include the images on the page. ...which 100 or so graphics you are going to create...? ... and to maintain...? I am open for constructive ideas, though, which (a) should be able to implement via LaTeX without manual postediting of the HTML code (b) simple to implement and maintain. Regards, Michael -- Michael Basler, Jena, Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/pmb.geo/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
