RE: [Flightgear-devel] Redhat (vs debian) - DEBIAN ISO's obtained
I might go ahead and give Debian a shot on the install, seems like the distro of choice, and I have a separate Redhat box (233mhz, don't think its S3 Virge supports OpenGL, I'd have to look) but I could use that for testing Debian seems to be the choice by large, and if it supports rpm's I might as well muck around with it for a bit. Despite RedHat's many publicized issues, I will give them credit - the GUI install is smooth and painless, and works like a champ on the 4 systems I have tried 7.2 on. The text installer is just as easy really. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Stockill Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 6:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: re: [Flightgear-devel] Redhat (vs debian) / BSD OK? On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, David Megginson wrote: I think that we have many RedHat users working with FlightGear, so there should be no problem. We'll convert you to Debian some other time. distro holy war At this point I'll just add that Slackware users don't have any problems - it flightgear is happy on a default install. /distro holy war :-) -- Jon StockillPublic Key: C6BD585D [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Redhat (vs debian) - DEBIAN ISO's obtained
I forgot to say that Debian must REALLY hide their ISO's - I had to get these from www.linuxiso.org Hopefully they boot OKburning ISO #1 right now. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greg Long Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Redhat (vs debian) - DEBIAN ISO's obtained I might go ahead and give Debian a shot on the install, seems like the distro of choice, and I have a separate Redhat box (233mhz, don't think its S3 Virge supports OpenGL, I'd have to look) but I could use that for testing Debian seems to be the choice by large, and if it supports rpm's I might as well muck around with it for a bit. Despite RedHat's many publicized issues, I will give them credit - the GUI install is smooth and painless, and works like a champ on the 4 systems I have tried 7.2 on. The text installer is just as easy really. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Stockill Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 6:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: re: [Flightgear-devel] Redhat (vs debian) / BSD OK? On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, David Megginson wrote: I think that we have many RedHat users working with FlightGear, so there should be no problem. We'll convert you to Debian some other time. distro holy war At this point I'll just add that Slackware users don't have any problems - it flightgear is happy on a default install. /distro holy war :-) -- Jon StockillPublic Key: C6BD585D [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Redhat (vs debian) - DEBIAN ISO's obtained
Greg Long writes: I might go ahead and give Debian a shot on the install, seems like the distro of choice, and I have a separate Redhat box (233mhz, don't think its S3 Virge supports OpenGL, I'd have to look) but I could use that for testing Debian seems to be the choice by large, and if it supports rpm's I might as well muck around with it for a bit. Debian is a bear to install but a dream to maintain. While Magic Carpet makes it easier than it used to be to pull in security fixes and bug patches for a specific version of RedHat, it doesn't help upgrading from one version to another. In Debian, when you're ready to move from, say, potato, to woody or sid, you just update the paths in /etc/apt/sources.list, then type apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade To move from one RedHat version to another, I usually had to reformat my hard drive. All the best, David -- David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Redhat (vs debian) - DEBIAN ISO's obtained
On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 09:22, David Megginson wrote: Greg Long writes: I might go ahead and give Debian a shot on the install, seems like the distro of choice, and I have a separate Redhat box (233mhz, don't think its S3 Virge supports OpenGL, I'd have to look) but I could use that for testing Debian seems to be the choice by large, and if it supports rpm's I might as well muck around with it for a bit. Debian is a bear to install but a dream to maintain. While Magic Carpet makes it easier than it used to be to pull in security fixes and bug patches for a specific version of RedHat, it doesn't help upgrading from one version to another. In Debian, when you're ready to move from, say, potato, to woody or sid, you just update the paths in /etc/apt/sources.list, then type apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade To move from one RedHat version to another, I usually had to reformat my hard drive. Which isn't to say that apt-get, dpkg, dselect, et.al. don't have their own warts. For example, Red Carpet seems to be good about telling you what's going on whereas with apt-get, AFAICT, its really hard to find out why apt-get upgrade won't install something. That said, however, it does seem to be true that you'll only ever need to install Debian once on a given system. All the best, David -- David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Tony Peden [EMAIL PROTECTED] We all know Linux is great ... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds. -- attributed to Linus Torvalds ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Redhat (vs debian) - DEBIAN ISO's obtained
I forgot to say that Debian must REALLY hide their ISO's - I had to get these from www.linuxiso.org Hopefully they boot OKburning ISO #1 right now. That's because nobody pays them for the bandwidth. They'd rather you use someone else's bandwidth, or borrow a CD from someone else, or buy one. After all, you only need that CD exactly once per computer system. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Redhat (vs debian) - DEBIAN ISO's obtained
You're really better off doing a network install if at all possible. Just download a couple of floppies and you're ready to go. On Sunday 17 March 2002 11:32 am, you wrote: I forgot to say that Debian must REALLY hide their ISO's - I had to get these from www.linuxiso.org Hopefully they boot OKburning ISO #1 right now. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greg Long Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Redhat (vs debian) - DEBIAN ISO's obtained I might go ahead and give Debian a shot on the install, seems like the distro of choice, and I have a separate Redhat box (233mhz, don't think its S3 Virge supports OpenGL, I'd have to look) but I could use that for testing Debian seems to be the choice by large, and if it supports rpm's I might as well muck around with it for a bit. Despite RedHat's many publicized issues, I will give them credit - the GUI install is smooth and painless, and works like a champ on the 4 systems I have tried 7.2 on. The text installer is just as easy really. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Stockill Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 6:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: re: [Flightgear-devel] Redhat (vs debian) / BSD OK? On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, David Megginson wrote: I think that we have many RedHat users working with FlightGear, so there should be no problem. We'll convert you to Debian some other time. distro holy war At this point I'll just add that Slackware users don't have any problems - it flightgear is happy on a default install. /distro holy war :-) ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
