[Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-01 Thread Jörg Emmerich
Curtis
actually your question hits me about 1 month too early!
I am in the midst of a final checkout of my proposal for a newly styled
"getstart". But you asked now - so I guess I ask everyone if my proposal
could be seen as what you are asking for. Pls have a look at 
  http://www.emmerich-j.de/Handbuch/EN/1_Start.html
and/or
  http://www.emmerich-j.de/Handbuch/DE/1_Start.html

Again: I planned to introduce this end of the month - but if people
believe it could be useful I welcome all help I can get to finalize it!

To the History:
I am not sure anybody still remembers that I announced about 1.5 years
ago to translate the existing "getstart.pdf" into German. In the
meantime I did that - 3 times:

1. Attempt
While translating I noticed very often that I was not sure if that, what
I was reading was fitting all environments or just MAC or ..  or. Also
the MakeUp was not really fitting any more the current modern
FlightGear. So my major change was to define one central chapter
("Installation") in which all OS-Dependencies are covered by defining
the Variables $FG_... for all OS's - and referred to those throughout
the book.
 Also I tried to remove several long listings of Options, Possibilities
etc. out of the text into the Appendix or special chapters!

2. Attempt
After having tested that I still was not satisfied with how to use it as
a Reference. i.e. it was nice to read from the beginning to the end -
but if you had a unique question after that, I found it very difficult
to find an answer for a unique detail in the "getstart". So I
restructured that whole thing in the hope of getting a "Manual to read",
being also "for the inpatient newbie" and also as a  "Reference for all
Basics".

3. Attempt
That 2. I liked better - and thought it might be useful also for the
people with an "English Tongue" - so now I translated that German one
back to English. And tried to use as much of the "English Original
speech" as possible -- that then made me adapting my German version
again - so both are now equal.

I wanted to introduce that outcome about end of this month to the
dev-team, to see especially whether the "Originators of the getstart"
still find their share in what I did, and concur to this change. I hope
nobody feels offended by my partly drastic changes to their origin. You
will see that I still list the "Originators" and just claim the
"Revision" for myself. 

Any comments, critics, suggestions, improvements, etc. are highly
welcome.

joe (jomo)



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-01 Thread Vivian Meazza
Jörg wrote

 
> Curtis
> actually your question hits me about 1 month too early!
> I am in the midst of a final checkout of my proposal for a newly styled
> "getstart". But you asked now - so I guess I ask everyone if my proposal
> could be seen as what you are asking for. Pls have a look at
>   http://www.emmerich-j.de/Handbuch/EN/1_Start.html
> and/or
>   http://www.emmerich-j.de/Handbuch/DE/1_Start.html
> 
> Again: I planned to introduce this end of the month - but if people
> believe it could be useful I welcome all help I can get to finalize it!
> 
> To the History:
> I am not sure anybody still remembers that I announced about 1.5 years
> ago to translate the existing "getstart.pdf" into German. In the
> meantime I did that - 3 times:
> 
> 1. Attempt
> While translating I noticed very often that I was not sure if that, what
> I was reading was fitting all environments or just MAC or ..  or. Also
> the MakeUp was not really fitting any more the current modern
> FlightGear. So my major change was to define one central chapter
> ("Installation") in which all OS-Dependencies are covered by defining
> the Variables $FG_... for all OS's - and referred to those throughout
> the book.
>  Also I tried to remove several long listings of Options, Possibilities
> etc. out of the text into the Appendix or special chapters!
> 
> 2. Attempt
> After having tested that I still was not satisfied with how to use it as
> a Reference. i.e. it was nice to read from the beginning to the end -
> but if you had a unique question after that, I found it very difficult
> to find an answer for a unique detail in the "getstart". So I
> restructured that whole thing in the hope of getting a "Manual to read",
> being also "for the inpatient newbie" and also as a  "Reference for all
> Basics".
> 
> 3. Attempt
> That 2. I liked better - and thought it might be useful also for the
> people with an "English Tongue" - so now I translated that German one
> back to English. And tried to use as much of the "English Original
> speech" as possible -- that then made me adapting my German version
> again - so both are now equal.
> 
> I wanted to introduce that outcome about end of this month to the
> dev-team, to see especially whether the "Originators of the getstart"
> still find their share in what I did, and concur to this change. I hope
> nobody feels offended by my partly drastic changes to their origin. You
> will see that I still list the "Originators" and just claim the
> "Revision" for myself.
> 
> Any comments, critics, suggestions, improvements, etc. are highly
> welcome.
> 


Spelling the title correctly in the English version would be a huge
improvement.

Vivian



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC ground network display

2011-09-01 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Adrian,
On 01 Sep 2011, at 05:09, Adrian Musceac wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have noticed that when enabled, the ground network is displayed above the 
> airport, at a variable height, depending on the airport's elevation above sea 
> level. This is mostly due to the fact that the elevation is in feet instead 
> of 
> meters.
> I have attached a patch that corrects this behaviour and takes into account 
> sloping terrain at airports. Now the network is displayed for both pilot and 
> AI aicraft at 0.5 meters above ground.
> Let me know if this is helpful.
> 
> Thanks,
> Adrian

Incidentally, I had been working on a similar patch last weekend. I decided to 
try a slightly different approach by collecting elevation information on the 
fly (i.e. as an aircraft was taxiing along a given route), and storing the 
information collected in a cache file. I've not been entirely satisfied with my 
own results yet. Just from a quick look, your patch seems to complement my work 
pretty well, so I hope I can integrated your patch with my development tree. As 
with other AI activities, I'll try to schedule some time for that this weekend.

Thanks,
Durk




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[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Newsletter - August 2011

2011-09-01 Thread Gijs de Rooy

Even in the shadows of the big news of our 2.4.0 release, there's more exciting 
stuff being developed ;)A much more advanced AI system, better weather 
performance, new aircraft and additional development
tools to name a few.

Keep yourself up to date and enoy reading at the FlightGear Newsletter August 
2011. A big applaus to all contributors! If you didn't contribute before, 
please see this forum post with info on
how (and what) to contribute. I look forward to welcoming your contribution for 
next month's edition!

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 65, Issue 1

2011-09-01 Thread BARANGER Emmanuel
Le 01/09/2011 05:09, flightgear-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net a
écrit :

>> Message: 10
>> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:22:27 +0200
>> From: ThorstenB 
>> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Content protection for modders?
>> To: FlightGear developers discussions
>>  
>> Message-ID: <4e5a7953.7090...@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859
> But before you start: remember the concept doesn't make much sense. Once
> the model file is read by the OSG plugin, the entire data is decrypted
> and stays in memory. It's almost trivial to write a converter which uses
> the close-source "secret" OSG plugin and reads the encrypted file into
> the OSG scene graph.
I agree Thorsten, but there are even simpler. The tools already existlol

osgconv protect.osg free.ac (for example)

Regards Emmanuel

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 65, Issue 1

2011-09-01 Thread BARANGER Emmanuel
Le 01/09/2011 05:09, flightgear-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net a
écrit :
> --
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 10:34:52 -0700
> From: "Hal V. Engel" 
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Content protection for modders?
> To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Message-ID: <201108281034.52583.hven...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Sunday, August 28, 2011 07:43:47 AM Paul Guhl wrote:
> On the other hand I would like to see some additional 3D formats
> supported. But not because I want to hide my content but because of
> the extra functionality. For example with the OSG or Blender formats
> we would have the potential to use "bones" in our models and this
> would allow for additional animation flexibility. This would be very
> useful for animating things like pilots or wing warping (Wright flier).
Hey HAL,

This is already happening. All formats read by OSG are usable in FG.

OSG, 3DS, AC, DXF, LWO, X etc. .

Regards. Emmanuel

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-01 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 01.09.11 10:24, schrieb Vivian Meazza:
>
> Spelling the title correctly in the English version would be a huge
> improvement.
>
> Vivian
>

Hi Jörg

I hope Vivians English style is not the only feedback you get about your 
work here. Your contribution is welcome, at lest for me, and maybe 
others can say something about how your work becomes part of FlightGear 
user documentation ?

Cheers, Yves

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