Re: [Flightgear-devel] Online Map Server
Hi Lloyd (and others), I have disabled the map server because there are serveral issues (as stated by Pedro Morgan). I'm willing to host a map server, but my java script kungfu is too limited to write a new one. If anyone is willing to rewrite the map server I will be happy to host it. Regards, Oliver Am 09.07.2013 22:22, schrieb Lloyd A. Stevens: I have noticed that http://mpmap01.flightgear.org/ currently shows: This page is temporarily closed. The map server is broken and needs a replacement. I recently set up a new Multiplayer Server(fgms) and I am also willing to host an Online Map Server. My server is on a multi-homed backbone. I can burst up to 100Mb/sec. Someone will need to provide me with the necessary info, configs, etc. -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New FlightGear Multiplayer Server
Hi Lloyd, i wrote a private mail to you on monday but apprently it's lost in space ;) So I repeat, your fgms.conf should look like: # basic setting server.name = mpserver02 server.port = 5000 # you can telnet to this port with this username/password # and see statistics (nice cisco like CLI) server.admin_port = 6002 server.admin_user = fred server.admin_pass = fred server.admin_enable = fred # mpserver01 does this server.tracked = false # mpserver01 is hub server.is_hub = false # don't set this too high server.out_of_reach = 100 # your only relay should be mpserver01 relay.host = mpserver01.flightgear.org relay.port = 5000 # you don't need a crossfeed, it's only interresting for fgms-developers # crossfeed.host = foo.example.com # crossfeed.port = 5002 # you can add static entries of IPs which get blocked, # but it's generally not needed and you can add them via # the admin CLI # blacklist = 123.123.123.123 And now the rest; Am 09.07.2013 23:13, schrieb Lloyd A. Stevens: Thanks for adding my server. I was only seeing local clients until I made the following change to my config file (I am guessing I was supposed to do this): relay.host = mpserver01.flightgear.org fgms will ignore traffic comming from unknown relays and since the multiplayer network is a star topology you should list only mpserver01 as your only relay. Currently mpserver01 is the only HUB, Although multiple HUBs should work I have not tested a multi HUB environment yet. And for those interrested: Current traffic load on mpserver01 is around 10 MBit/s Should other fgms be told that I exist? How would I notify them? You (and all others) can reach all server admins with fgserver at postrobot dot de It's a pseudo mailing list and I try to keep the list of admins up to date as good as I can. I also added the server to this list http://wiki.flightgear.org/Howto:Multiplayer#Servers Other places that need to updated for the new server: Link on above listed page shows Geographic locations of the servers are also available at Google Mapshttps://maps.google.nl/maps/ms?msid=213869436283721436186.000481c029e65 3a30807cmsa=0ll=42.293564,38.671875spn=69.324015,173.144531 I also updated http://mpmap01.flightgear.org/mpstatus/ http://mpmap02.flightgear.org/ server list shows my server as Hong Kong. The very first mpserver02 was located in Hong Kong. I hope the admin of this page (pigeon: wake up! :) reads this. http://mpserver15.flightgear.org/mpserverstatus/ http://mpserver16.flightgear.org/ list shows my server as Kansas (but with correct IP address). http://flightgear.mxchange.org/mpstatus/ list shows my server as Kansas. Who should I contact to update these? Are there any other places the server needs to be updated? The second incarnation of mpserver02 was located in Kansas. So this information is also outdated. Unfortunatly all those links are administerd by different people. Now that the server is active and appears to be working correctly should it be tracked? Should it act as a HUB? From config file (my current settings): ## # Tracking server # set server.tracked = true to use it # only set this to true if the tracking server # admin allows it! server.tracked = false server.tracking_server = 62.112.194.20 server.tracking_port = 8000 ## # if set to true, fgms will act as a HUB server # a HUB server will resend packets received from # relays to all other relays # *only* set to true if you know what you are # doning server.is_hub = false As long as you are not absolutly sure what you are doing you should: - disable tracking - disable HUB setting OLIVER, Thank you for updating the sources and pushing them to gitorious. Even if I had access to do this I would have been unwary of doing it because I would hate to break a compile on linux since I have no way of testing it. I tested the new code on FreeBSD and decimal points are still missing in lines 107 113 I will check this tommorow. Unfortunatly I have no BSD to test. Perhaps one day I have time to set up some virtual machines with different operating systems ;) Best wishes, Oliver -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New FlightGear Multiplayer Server
Hi Lloyd, I have updated mpserver01 and http://mpmap01.flightgear.org/mpstatus/ Thank you for providing me with feedback for BSD. I've updated the sources and pushed them to gitorious so the source should compile out of the boy now. Regards, Oliver Am 06.07.2013 08:33, schrieb Lloyd A. Stevens: I had a bit of trouble getting fgms to build on FreeBSD 9.0. The source I used was from git://gitorious.org/fgms/fgms-0-x.git ERRORS for: fgms-0-x/src/libcli/libcli.cxx /usr/include/malloc.h:3:2: error: #error malloc.h has been replaced by stdlib.h Changes made to fgms-0-x/src/libcli/libcli.cxx #if !defined(__FreeBSD__) # include malloc.h #endif ERRORS for: fgms-0-x/src/server/fg_util.cxx /usr/ports/local/fgms-0-x/src/server/fg_util.cxx:107: error: integer constant is too large for 'long' type /usr/ports/local/fgms-0-x/src/server/fg_util.cxx:109: error: integer constant is too large for 'long' type /usr/ports/local/fgms-0-x/src/server/fg_util.cxx:113: error: integer constant is too large for 'long' type /usr/ports/local/fgms-0-x/src/server/fg_util.cxx:115: error: integer constant is too large for 'long' type Changes made to fgms-0-x/src/server/fg_util.cxx (added decimal points for the listed lines): if (bytes 1125899906842624.) ret_val = (bytes / 1125899906842624.); else if (bytes 1099511627776.) ret_val = (bytes / 1099511627776.); *The server is now running.* The server is located in Los Angeles, California, USA on a multi-homed 100 Mb sustained connection. This is my backup development server and is rarely used. http://ns3.galacticnet.com/stats/ Uptime is greater than 99% (up for 461 days). Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz Logfile: 05.07.2013 18:16:38 # This is newmpserver 05.07.2013 18:16:38 # FlightGear Multiplayer Server v0.11.0 started 05.07.2013 18:16:38 # using protocol version v1.1 (LazyRelay enabled) 05.07.2013 18:16:38 # listening to port 5000 05.07.2013 18:16:38 # telnet port 5001 05.07.2013 18:16:38 # admin port 5002 05.07.2013 18:16:38 # using logfile /var/log/fgms.log 05.07.2013 18:16:38 # listening on 64. 05.07.2013 18:16:38 # tracking is disabled. 05.07.2013 18:16:38 # I have 1 relays 05.07.2013 18:16:38 # relay mpserver14.flightgear.org:5000 05.07.2013 18:16:38 # I have 0 crossfeeds 05.07.2013 18:16:38 # I have 2 blacklisted IPs 05.07.2013 18:16:38 # Files: exit=[/tmp/fgms_exit] stat=[/tmp/fgms_stat] 05.07.2013 18:16:38 # My PID is 34144 05.07.2013 18:16:38 Main server started! 05.07.2013 18:53:15 New LOCAL Client: N1035G 108.228.5.67:61421 (Aircraft/danube/Models/danube-osg.xml) current clients: 1 max: 1 The IP is 64.69.45.88. If you want to add this server to http://mpmap01.flightgear.org/mpstatus/ please provide me with correct values for my fgms.conf: server.name = newmpserver server.tracked = false server.tracking_server = 62.112.194.20 server.tracking_port = 8000 server.is_hub = false server.out_of_reach = 1 #relay.host = mpserver01.flightgear.org #relay.port = 5000 relay.host = mpserver14.flightgear.org relay.port = 5000 # crossfeed.host = foo.example.com # crossfeed.port = 5002 blacklist = 123.123.123.123 ~Lloyd Stevens lists.sourceforge.net@boxisp. net (was this the correct place to post this?) (I still can’t get fgms-1-x to compile) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Replacement fpr mpserver01.flightgear.org
On Wednesday 07 April 2010 12:52:16 Mattt wrote: Oliver, To assist with my ambition for laziness, can you give me a round figure for monthly bandwidth? According to pigeon mpserver02 uses about 10-15 GByte per day. Regards, Oliver I may be able to assist - note, however, that my host is in AU. It is on several redundant 100mb ethernet connections, though ;-) kyle keevill wrote: I may be able to do this. Gotta rumage through my stuff here. The floors still open for all. On Apr 7, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Oliver Schroeder wrote: Bandwidth is not easy to measure. I did some testing this morning and came to these results: ~ 50 kbit/sec per directly connected client ~ 3 kbit/sec per idle relay server (same as direct connected clients for active servers) With about 20 active users about ~ 650 kbit/sec over all with all known public servers as relays. Maximum users I have seen was about 70 users. So I think a 10 MBit line will provide sufficient bandwith for current usage. (DSL is not a good choice as the line will easily be filled). CPU and memory usage is not significant at all. I can not tell what bandwidth is needed for the mapserver, but it should be quit moderate as well. regards, Oliver On Tuesday 06 April 2010 19:22:08 Pete Morgan wrote: Whats the bandwidth involved? This is a pretty loaded server ? pete Oliver Schroeder wrote: Hello list. Unfortunatly my sponsor for mpserver01 will quit his contract for the hardware. Thus I am in search for a replacement. If you are interrested in offering a unix host for hosting fgms (the server software, which does not need root access), please drop me an email. I'm also willing to continue to administer this server if you don't want to administer it yourself. The same applies to mpmap01.flightgear.org which is currently hosted on the same hardware. Any comments and especially offers are welcome Regards, Oliver -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel Kyle Keevill kyle...@gmail.com -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Cheers, Mattt. SpotSafe - WiFi Hotspot solution - http://spotsafe.net There are only 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary, and those that don't... -- i.A. Oliver Schröder Systemadministrator/-programmierer Network/Engineering IP-Services Versatel West GmbH Unterste-Wilms-Straße 29 D-44143 Dortmund Fon: 0231-399-4479 Fax: 0231-399-4491 oliver.schroe...@versatel.de | www.versatel.de Sitz der Gesellschaft: Dortmund | Registergericht: Dortmund HRB 21738 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Hai Cheng, Dr. Max Padberg, Joachim Bellinghoven
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hurricane simulator development
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer setup on a lan
Am Dienstag, den 16.10.2007, 08:56 +0200 schrieb Durk Talsma: Hi, Doesanybody know where I can find information on setting up a multiplayer server on a local area network (LAN)? We'd like to demo the multiplayer feature at the FSWeekend show in Lelystad, and we almost certainly don't have an internet connection there. There is nothing magic in a lan environment. Installation from the sources should be pretty straight forward. Simply follow the instructions on the webpage (http://fgms.sourceforge.net/download.php) As far as I know, the server is only tested on GNU/Linux systems. It may, or may not, run on other platforms. Regards, Oliver - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer setup on a lan
Hi Durk, Durk Talsma schrieb: Now, my next question was going to be how we could get a local copy of the mapserver to work, but I guess that's not possible, because the mapserver depends on google imagery, which is a noop with an internet connection... You're right. The map server depends on google-map and therefore needs an internet connection. I've experimented with Atlas as an alternative, but it is focused on one client. If you sent data of multiple clients to Atlas, the map jumps from one location to antother. So it's no solution either (but perhaps someone picks up the idea :-) Cheers, Oliver - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer liveries...
Hi List, Melchior FRANZ schrieb: There's a TODO message in multiplaymgr.cxx that says: // A static map of protocol property id values to property paths, // This should be extendable dynamically for every specific aircraft ... This static list grows and grows and that's becoming a problem. I hardly ever take part in MP, because the amount of incoming data is just too big for my connection. And that's no surprise when even an UFO sends rotor angles, gear compression, tailhook angle, etc. This problem is the cause why I decided to make /sim/model/variant only an integer. But I agree very much with Syd that a string would be much better, or rather with Anmaster, that several strings etc. should be supported. I'm not an fgms or MP expert, but as far as I've understood the protocol is now relative simple. After an initial package containing e.g. the aircraft path, all further packages always contain all properties of the static list. There's no response from the clients necessary. The current protocol is very simple and very static. We have a few packet types and for every additional property we want to send, we need to modify the sources and make sure we don't send more data than one packet can transmit (the current maximum size of one packet is 1200 bytes). That's one part I'm working on. The library is ready for testing in my drawer and I'm more or less currently working to get it into working code on the server side. But real life is in the way, sometimes. So my progressing is slow. The basic concecpt of my library is to write ID|value pairs to a buffer, and the library takes care about this buffer and automatically creates new buffers if the current buffer can not hold the data. For this, we need a mapping for IDs to properties. This mapping should probably map all possible properties. My idea to those IDs is: the ID encodes automatically the space, this property consumes in a network packet in xdr-units (4-bytes). With this scheme, other applications know how many bytes to skip in the packet for data they are not interrested in or have no knowledge of. An ID1 means, the next 4 Bytes is the length of the property. For all others ID/1 (integer division) is the length of the data. For example, the Position could have the ID 12, the orientation 120001, etc. Meaning the data consumes 12 bytes in the packet. Anyone is welcome to simply do the mapping. Either via a static map, or within the property tree itself. Volunteers, step forward. But this method can't be continued ad infinitum. Only the absolute minimum of data should be transferred, and this should be configurable on a per aircraft basis. I could imagine these types of data, in addition to the initial data package containing the aircraft path: (1) properties sent in every package without expecting confirmation (a) always sent - position orientation - additional properties as configured by the aircraft (b) like (a), but only start to send them after they changed to a non-default value (zero/empty string) for the first time. This can be predefined so that not every aircraft has to list them all, but they wouldn't be sent when not necessary. /gear/gear[0]/compression-norm /rotors/main/rpm (3) send initially and whenever changed until confirmed (configurable by the aircraft) /sim/model/foo/livery=Aircraft/foo/Models/Liveries/blue.rgb Which should be pretty simple and straight forward. Whether we can afford to transfer a livery path already with the current system in place must be decided by the MP gurus. We can put the livery path into the current protocol, as an intermediate solution. But in the long run head toward a new protocol. Regards, Oliver - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
