Re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] warning: picked up error... with OSG hotspots and mouse-view
Hi, one question: > > You can create invisible objects - so you can have one to > increase and > one to decrease. Have a look at the Grob 115 cockpit for > some examples. > is the conditions-problem solved? When I did try to convert the current 737-300ap-panel to a 3d one, I noticed that conditions-binding are nor working. Does anyone knows if this fixed? Cheers HHS - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] warning: picked up error... with OSG hotspots and mouse-view
Alexis Bory - xiii wrote: > The only thing I can note is that pick animation gives white > outlining of the objects (see both security caps on top of the > screenshot) while the old hotspots are yellow coloured. That's > all. > Hi Alexis, If an object has a _material_ animation, specifically, emissions, then it will not be the thick yellow line, but instead a thin line the _same_ color as the emission value. So for example, if the emission value is black, the pick line will also be black, and virtually invisible. Stewart - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] warning: picked up error... with OSG hotspots and mouse-view
gerard robin wrote: > I didn't understood that feature. > How can we turn a knob, increase or decrease a value , since it is the same > object. You can create invisible objects - so you can have one to increase and one to decrease. Have a look at the Grob 115 cockpit for some examples. Jon - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] warning: picked up error... with OSG hotspots and mouse-view
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 18:31 +0200, gerard robin wrote: > On dimanche 05 octobre 2008, Ron Jensen wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 18:13 +0200, Erik Hofman wrote: > > > Ron Jensen wrote: > > > > Take a look at converting over from panels to OSG hotspots. > > > > > > Just to be sure, is this the ´pick animation' or yet another method? > > > > > > Erik > > > > Sorry for not being clear. Yes it is the pick animation. > > > > Ron > > I didn't understood that feature. > How can we turn a knob, increase or decrease a value , since it is the same > object. I use the left button/right button or the mouse wheel forward/back: pick knob-fltinst 0 property-adjust controls/lighting/instruments-norm 0.1 0 1 0 1 property-adjust controls/lighting/instruments-norm -0.1 0 1 0 4 property-adjust controls/lighting/instruments-norm 0.1 0 1 0 3 property-adjust controls/lighting/instruments-norm -0.1 0 1 0 - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] warning: picked up error... with OSG hotspots and mouse-view
Ron Jensen wrote: > On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 18:13 +0200, Erik Hofman wrote: >> Ron Jensen wrote: >> >>> Take a look at converting over from panels to OSG hotspots. >> Just to be sure, is this the ´pick animation' or yet another method? > > Sorry for not being clear. Yes it is the pick animation. No problem, I was just a bit confused. Thanks for the explanation. Erik - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] warning: picked up error... with OSG hotspots and mouse-view
On dimanche 05 octobre 2008, Ron Jensen wrote: > On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 18:13 +0200, Erik Hofman wrote: > > Ron Jensen wrote: > > > Take a look at converting over from panels to OSG hotspots. > > > > Just to be sure, is this the ´pick animation' or yet another method? > > > > Erik > > Sorry for not being clear. Yes it is the pick animation. > > Ron I didn't understood that feature. How can we turn a knob, increase or decrease a value , since it is the same object. -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la santé. Voltaire - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] warning: picked up error... with OSG hotspots and mouse-view
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 18:13 +0200, Erik Hofman wrote: > > Ron Jensen wrote: > > > Take a look at converting over from panels to OSG hotspots. > > Just to be sure, is this the ´pick animation' or yet another method? > > Erik Sorry for not being clear. Yes it is the pick animation. Ron - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] warning: picked up error... with OSG hotspots and mouse-view
Ron Jensen wrote: > Take a look at converting over from panels to OSG hotspots. Just to be sure, is this the ´pick animation' or yet another method? Erik - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] warning: picked up error... with OSG hotspots and mouse-view
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 15:38 +0200, gerard robin wrote: > On dimanche 05 octobre 2008, Alexis Bory - xiii wrote: > > gerard robin wrote: > > > I don't get any warning , only that ugly result, which makes the > > > hotspot invisible, z buffer ? may be. > > > http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/tux/Hotspot_w_osg.jpg > > > > > > Versus the PLib version > > > http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/tux/Hotspot_w_plib.jpg > > Hi Gérard, > > > > I don't have any of the above problems with the f-14b and OSG. > > See: http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/F-14B/hotspots.jpg > > > > May be PLIB modeled hotspots don't work "out of the box" > > when switching from PLIB to OSG, but franckly that's a minor > > problem (and, yes I know, a bit more home work). Moving the > > hotspot grids a few millimeters above the panel surface > > will do the trick. This is not an OSG related problem. > > > > The only thing I can note is that pick animation gives white > > outlining of the objects (see both security caps on top of the > > screenshot) while the old hotspots are yellow coloured. That's > > all. > > > > Alexis > > > Hello xiii, > > Is it hospots which are defined on the panel ? => only one hospot array > definition > > Or like i have, hospots which are define on the instrument ? => each > instrument is a module which keep is own hotspot definition I don't see white highlighting, but I do see the z-buffer issue with old-style panel hotspots. Take a look at converting over from panels to OSG hotspots. Maintenance is easier, clickable instruments are portable, and if you move an instrument or switch, the hotspot automatically moves with it, including moving the switch with an animation. For example, a to move a gear handle you always click the handle, not some vaguely defined rectangle in the general area of the handle. http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/temp/hotspots.jpg All the hotspots in the DA20 model are OSG, I borrowed some of the instrumentation from elsewhere so there is a mix of styles for turnable knobs. My personal preference here is the mouse wheel, that is how the instrument brightness knob (left side by ASI) works. The OBI and heading indicator use the old style "squares" hotspots. Especially note the carb-heat, cabin-heat, choke and parking brake knobs on the pedestal console. With a plib-style hotspot scheme you almost have to turn on the highlighting to tell where to click. With the OSG style, you just click the knob and it toggles. And the spot to click moves in and out with the knob mesh. jentRon - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] warning: picked up error... with OSG hotspots and mouse-view
On dimanche 05 octobre 2008, Alexis Bory - xiii wrote: > gerard robin wrote: > > On dimanche 05 octobre 2008, Alexis Bory - xiii wrote: > > > gerard robin wrote: > > >> I don't get any warning , only that ugly result, which makes the > > >> hotspot invisible, z buffer ? may be. > > >> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/tux/Hotspot_w_osg.jpg > > >> > > >> Versus the PLib version > > >> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/tux/Hotspot_w_plib.jpg > > > > > > Hi Gérard, > > > > > > I don't have any of the above problems with the f-14b and OSG. See: > > > http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/F-14B/hotspots.jpg > > > > > > May be PLIB modeled hotspots don't work "out of the box" when > > > switching from PLIB to OSG, but franckly that's a minor problem > > > (and, yes I know, a bit more home work). Moving the hotspot grids > > > a few millimeters above the panel surface will do the trick. This > > > is not an OSG related problem. > > > > > > The only thing I can note is that pick animation gives white > > > outlining of the objects (see both security caps on top of the > > > screenshot) while the old hotspots are yellow coloured. That's all. > > > > > > > > > Alexis > > > > Hello xiii, > > > > Is it hospots which are defined on the panel ? => only one hospot > > array definition > > > > Or like i have, hospots which are define on the instrument ? => > > each instrument is a module which keep is own hotspot definition > > Neither, I have several hotspots files called from the main model xml > file. ie different hotspot grids for the side consoles, the central > piedestal, the center of the main panel, the sides of the main panel... > actually 9 files for the F-14. Pick animation are located within the > instrument xml file. > For me, having several hotspot files for different parts of the panels > makes a lot more crowd in the model directories but also makes > maintainance easier. > Yes i agree, maintenace is easier. I guess that my problem is due to the hierarchy. I have more than five level from the lower which is the instrument and the top level which is the cockpit. The hotspot being defined at the lower level, it could be a lot of Alpha layer above it. As far as i know OSG decide itself the priority. The user/devel can't control it :( This could explain the error. With OSG i will have to rebuid it , may be the next century :) -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la santé. Voltaire - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] warning: picked up error... with OSG hotspots and mouse-view
gerard robin wrote: > On dimanche 05 octobre 2008, Alexis Bory - xiii wrote: > > gerard robin wrote: > >> I don't get any warning , only that ugly result, which makes the > >> hotspot invisible, z buffer ? may be. > >> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/tux/Hotspot_w_osg.jpg > >> > >> Versus the PLib version > >> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/tux/Hotspot_w_plib.jpg > > Hi Gérard, > > > > I don't have any of the above problems with the f-14b and OSG. See: > > http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/F-14B/hotspots.jpg > > > > May be PLIB modeled hotspots don't work "out of the box" when > > switching from PLIB to OSG, but franckly that's a minor problem > > (and, yes I know, a bit more home work). Moving the hotspot grids > > a few millimeters above the panel surface will do the trick. This > > is not an OSG related problem. > > > > The only thing I can note is that pick animation gives white > > outlining of the objects (see both security caps on top of the > > screenshot) while the old hotspots are yellow coloured. That's all. > > > > > > Alexis > > > Hello xiii, > > Is it hospots which are defined on the panel ? => only one hospot > array definition > > Or like i have, hospots which are define on the instrument ? => > each instrument is a module which keep is own hotspot definition Neither, I have several hotspots files called from the main model xml file. ie different hotspot grids for the side consoles, the central piedestal, the center of the main panel, the sides of the main panel... actually 9 files for the F-14. Pick animation are located within the instrument xml file. For me, having several hotspot files for different parts of the panels makes a lot more crowd in the model directories but also makes maintainance easier. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] warning: picked up error... with OSG hotspots and mouse-view
On dimanche 05 octobre 2008, Alexis Bory - xiii wrote: > gerard robin wrote: > > I don't get any warning , only that ugly result, which makes the > > hotspot invisible, z buffer ? may be. > > http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/tux/Hotspot_w_osg.jpg > > > > Versus the PLib version > > http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/tux/Hotspot_w_plib.jpg > > Hi Gérard, > > I don't have any of the above problems with the f-14b and OSG. > See: http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/F-14B/hotspots.jpg > > May be PLIB modeled hotspots don't work "out of the box" > when switching from PLIB to OSG, but franckly that's a minor > problem (and, yes I know, a bit more home work). Moving the > hotspot grids a few millimeters above the panel surface > will do the trick. This is not an OSG related problem. > > The only thing I can note is that pick animation gives white > outlining of the objects (see both security caps on top of the > screenshot) while the old hotspots are yellow coloured. That's > all. > > Alexis > Hello xiii, Is it hospots which are defined on the panel ? => only one hospot array definition Or like i have, hospots which are define on the instrument ? => each instrument is a module which keep is own hotspot definition -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la santé. Voltaire - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] warning: picked up error... with OSG hotspots and mouse-view
gerard robin wrote: > I don't get any warning , only that ugly result, which makes the > hotspot invisible, z buffer ? may be. > http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/tux/Hotspot_w_osg.jpg > > Versus the PLib version > http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/tux/Hotspot_w_plib.jpg Hi Gérard, I don't have any of the above problems with the f-14b and OSG. See: http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/F-14B/hotspots.jpg May be PLIB modeled hotspots don't work "out of the box" when switching from PLIB to OSG, but franckly that's a minor problem (and, yes I know, a bit more home work). Moving the hotspot grids a few millimeters above the panel surface will do the trick. This is not an OSG related problem. The only thing I can note is that pick animation gives white outlining of the objects (see both security caps on top of the screenshot) while the old hotspots are yellow coloured. That's all. Alexis - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] warning: picked up error... with OSG hotspots and mouse-view
On dimanche 05 octobre 2008, Heiko Schulz wrote: > Hi, > > heading to a new release I noticed a bug which annoy me a lot and make the > OSG-hotspots nearly unusuable. > > Klicking on the OSG-hotspot creates a "warning: picked up error in > TriangleIntersect" which let FGF freezes some seconds. The same when I > change the mouse-mode. > > But I have no problems with the old hotspots from plib?! > > win32, CVS built by Fred from 10/04/2008, first errors appeared around > august. > > Any ideas? > > Regards > HHS > > still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html > But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html > I don't get any warning , only that ugly result, which makes the hotspot invisible, z buffer ? may be. http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/tux/Hotspot_w_osg.jpg Versus the PLib version http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/tux/Hotspot_w_plib.jpg Cheers BTW: Cockpit of the F-8E Crusader, coming soon :) -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la santé. Voltaire - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] warning: picked up error... with OSG hotspots and mouse-view
On dimanche 05 octobre 2008, Heiko Schulz wrote: > Hi, > > heading to a new release I noticed a bug which annoy me a lot and make the > OSG-hotspots nearly unusuable. > > Klicking on the OSG-hotspot creates a "warning: picked up error in > TriangleIntersect" which let FGF freezes some seconds. The same when I > change the mouse-mode. > > But I have no problems with the old hotspots from plib?! > > win32, CVS built by Fred from 10/04/2008, first errors appeared around > august. > > Any ideas? > > Regards > HHS > > still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html > But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html > I don't get any warning , only that ugly result, which makes the hotspot invisible, z buffer ? may be. http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/tux/Hotspot_w_osg.jpg Versus the PLib version http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/tux/Hotspot_w_plib.jpg Cheers BTW: Cockpit of the F-8E Crusader, coming soon :) -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la santé. Voltaire - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] [BUG] warning: picked up error... with OSG hotspots and mouse-view
Hi, heading to a new release I noticed a bug which annoy me a lot and make the OSG-hotspots nearly unusuable. Klicking on the OSG-hotspot creates a "warning: picked up error in TriangleIntersect" which let FGF freezes some seconds. The same when I change the mouse-mode. But I have no problems with the old hotspots from plib?! win32, CVS built by Fred from 10/04/2008, first errors appeared around august. Any ideas? Regards HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
