Re: FLUXLIST: Ken Friedman
I agree with you both, I love me some Ken! disco >From: Reed Altemus > >I would like to go on the record as saying that I also value Ken >Friedman's participation in FLUXLIST very much. The fact that, Eric >Anderson & IPUT have made it a hostile environment for Ken is deplorable. >That Ken left the list is both understandable and sad and I will miss his >concise and intelligent comments and his gentle humor. > >Reed Altemus > > > For the record, I like Ken Friedman and will miss his enlightening, >intelligent, educational and WORTHWHILE posts very much. I, too, wish there >were more "intellectual" discussions on this this, but I assume that >everyone else knows more about Fluxux/art than I, so I feel as if I have >little to offer in a discussion. And discuss with Ken? I have pages and >pages of his posts printed out in a little booklet (edition of 1) that I >use as reference material. So, to the vocal minority of Ken Friedman >haters, I shake my hands at you. > > > > -Josh Ronsen > > http://www.nd.org/jronsen > > > > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- > > Before you buy. > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
FLUXLIST: Re: Fried Can
>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:05:32 -0700 >To: Eric Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (St.Auby Tamas) >Subject: Re: Fried Can >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > >High, dear Eric! > >>Did the fluxlist ever bring your last excellent remarks on the Public and >>the Private? > >No. > >>I don't recall to have seen it on the list. It could be my memory playing >>games. > >It's really funny. >Since I have sent it yesterday at 22.54h >I'm wondering if my memory is playing games or what, >I opened several times the emils and >there is no a recieved copy of my emil to the Fluxlist. > >Is it the same story of Censorship as it happened to you? >The difference is that I do recieve the emils of other Fluxlist-members, >while your list was blocked completly for 24 hours >if I understood it well. > >Anyway I send it now again; >your censored same emil they got 3 times afterwhile, >let's see how many times will they recieve mine. (...) >BRAHMAHAHA! > >Hugh! > >aa
FLUXLIST: ?!
HIGH! IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE FLUXLIST?! HUGH! A101A
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: strange things in the mail?
Patricia wrote: > Strange emails, Part 2 > > This is an actual essay written by a college applicant to NYU. The author > was accepted and is now attending NYU. > > "3A. In order for the Admissions Staff of our college to get to know Patricia Thanks for making me laugh. Reed
Re: FLUXLIST: Ken Friedman
I would like to go on the record as saying that I also value Ken Friedman's participation in FLUXLIST very much. The fact that, Eric Anderson & IPUT have made it a hostile environment for Ken is deplorable. That Ken left the list is both understandable and sad and I will miss his concise and intelligent comments and his gentle humor. Reed Altemus > For the record, I like Ken Friedman and will miss his enlightening, intelligent, >educational and WORTHWHILE posts very much. I, too, wish there were more >"intellectual" discussions on this this, but I assume that everyone else knows more >about Fluxux/art than I, so I feel as if I have little to offer in a discussion. And >discuss with Ken? I have pages and pages of his posts printed out in a little booklet >(edition of 1) that I use as reference material. So, to the vocal minority of Ken >Friedman haters, I shake my hands at you. > > -Josh Ronsen > http://www.nd.org/jronsen > > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- > Before you buy.
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: strange things in the mail?
Strange emails, Part 2 This is an actual essay written by a college applicant to NYU. The author was accepted and is now attending NYU. "3A. In order for the Admissions Staff of our college to get to know you, the applicant, better, we ask that you answer the following question: Are there any significant experiences you have had, or accomplishments you have realized, that have helped to define you as a person?" I am a dynamic figure, often seen scaling walls and crushing ice. I have been known to remodel train stations on my lunch breaks, making them more efficient in the area of heat retention. I translate ethnic slurs for Cuban refugees, I write award-winning operas, I manage time efficiently. Occasionally, I tread water for three days in a row. I woo women with my sensuous and godlike trombone playing, I can pilot bicycles up severe inclines with unflagging speed, and I cook Thirty-Minute Brownies in twenty minutes. I am an expert in stucco, a veteran in love, and an outlaw in Peru. Using only a hoe and a large glass of water, I once single-handedly defended a small village in the Amazon Basin from a horde of ferocious army ants. I play bluegrass cello, I was scouted by the Mets, I am the subject of numerous documentaries. When I'm bored, I build large suspension briidges in my yard. I enjoy urban hang gliding. On Wednesdays, after school, I repair electrical appliances free of charge. I am an abstract artist, a concrete analyst, and a ruthless bookie. Critics worldwide swoon over my original line of corduroy evening wear. I don't perspire. I am a private citizen, yet I receive fan mail. I have been caller number nine and have won the weekend passes. Last summer I toured New Jersey with a traveling centrifugal force demonstration. I bat.400. My deft floral arrangements have earned me fame in international botany circles. Children trust me. I can hurl tennis rackets at small moving objects with deadly accuracy. I once read Paradise Lost, Moby Dick, and David Copperfield in one day and still had time to refurbish an entire dining room that evening. I have performed several covert operations with the CIA. I sleep once a week; when I do sleep, I sleep in a chair. While on vacation in Canada, I successfully negotiated with a group of terrorists who had seized a small bakery. The laws of physics do not apply to me. I balance, I weave, I dodge, I frolic, and my bills are all paid. On weekends, to let off steam, I participate in full-contact origami. Years ago I discovered the meaning of life but forgot to write it down. I have made extraordinary four course meals using only a mouli and a toaster oven. I breed prizewinning clams. I have won bullfights in San Juan, cliff-diving competititons in Sri Lanka, and spelling bees at the Kremlin. I have played Hamlet, I have performed open-heart surgery, and I have spoken with Elvis. But I have not yet gone to college. Josh Ronsen wrote: > A-ha! But what has been the strangest thing you've gotten by e-mail?! > > -Josh Ronsen > http://www.nd.org/jronsen > > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- > Before you buy.
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: strange things in the mail?
Strange things by email, part 1. http://www.mteww.com/websiteunseen/collect25.html Josh Ronsen wrote: > A-ha! But what has been the strangest thing you've gotten by e-mail?! > > -Josh Ronsen > http://www.nd.org/jronsen > > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- > Before you buy.
FLUXLIST: Re: strange things in the mail?
A-ha! But what has been the strangest thing you've gotten by e-mail?! -Josh Ronsen http://www.nd.org/jronsen --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Before you buy.
FLUXLIST: Ken Friedman
For the record, I like Ken Friedman and will miss his enlightening, intelligent, educational and WORTHWHILE posts very much. I, too, wish there were more "intellectual" discussions on this this, but I assume that everyone else knows more about Fluxux/art than I, so I feel as if I have little to offer in a discussion. And discuss with Ken? I have pages and pages of his posts printed out in a little booklet (edition of 1) that I use as reference material. So, to the vocal minority of Ken Friedman haters, I shake my hands at you. -Josh Ronsen http://www.nd.org/jronsen --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Before you buy.
FLUXLIST: Fwd: Ritual Death by WOLF KAHLEN in the Net
in the email today... From: "Ruine der Kuenste Berlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Ritual Death by WOLF KAHLEN in the Net Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:15:57 +0200 Media artist WOLF KAHLEN is dissolving pixel by pixel, user by user in the net. On a first page. On a second one you see and hear your personal pixel, the one you activated to disappear, solely on the empty page. And on a third page you'll see all the 'lost' pixels arriving back and shaping a new WOLF KAHLEN. Look, hear and have the triptych printed out, signed and numbered, the way you, only you, saw the process taking shape, nobody else has seen this moment of the RITUAL DEATH and the REBIRTH at the same time. An exiting piece and a very conceptual one, a media concerned and at the same time a sensual one. The RUINE DER KUENSTE BERLIN presents it to collectors for free, as WOLF KAHLEN gave it to us generously at his recent 60th birthday. The URL for the piece is www.wolf-kahlen.de More about us: www.snafu.de/~ruine-kuenste.berlin
FLUXLIST: Censorship?
This mail was sent to Fluxlist, Ken Friedman and me some hours ago. Why hasn't it appeared on the list??? Ciao Eric ## High! >Actually Ken has unsubscribed from Fluxlist. IPUT recalls the process: 1. On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Ken Friedman wrote: (...) > Internet petitions do not work. (...) - 2. Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:42:04 +0200 From: "St.Auby Tamas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Fluxlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Internet petitions do not work High! On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Ken Friedman wrote: > Internet petitions do not work. Eric Andersen - after extensive research - have informed me that it was the internet petition more than anything else that made the bureaucrats in Sao Paulo Bienal realise the consequences, and reconsider their decision concerning Ivo Mesquita. Hugh! aa --- 3. (>Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:47:58 +0200 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: Ken Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Offlist note) (...) >many of Eric's claims are also sheer fabrications and lies (...) --- 4. Since IPUT doesn't believe in the notion of private, recieving the above "offlist note" by Ken Friedman IPUT have forwarded it to Eric Andersen. --- 5. Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:24:10 -0400 From: Eric Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Offlist note (fwd) Sender: Eric Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "St.Auby Tamas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Tamas, I enjoyed immensly the reaction from your mail-friend in Oslo. Can I tell him that I know about it and how it pleased me? All the bests Eric 6. Date: 28 Jul 2000 To: Eric Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (St.Auby Tamas) Subject: Re: Offlist note (fwd) High, dear Eric! >Can I tell him that I know about it and how it pleased me? Sure. Especially, because it's evident for him that you know about it. I would accept with pleasure if you would tell him that Tamas St.Auby is a notorious liar, he is not an artist., not even a non-art-artist., but a monomaniac, boring bureaucrat, who thinks he is the only expert of Fluxus and all, who is an uncurable solipsist - or something like that. Hugh! aa 7. Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:59:26 +0200 To: "St.Auby Tamas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Ken Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Please keep my private correspondence private if you wish to exchange email. Status: RO X-Status: A Dear Tamas, Why the hell did you involve me in correspondence with Eric Andersen? Private correspondence ought to be private. Now you've started things up again. He doesn't like you any more than he likes me. (...) --- 8. Date: 3 Aug 2000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (St.Auby Tamas) Subject: Re: Please keep my private correspondence private if you wish to exchange email. Cc: Eric High, dear Ken! On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Ken Friedman wrote: > Private correspondence ought to be private. I'm sorry, Ken, IPUT doesn't believe in the notion of private. If one shares anything it is immediately ought to be collective in the holy name of Techne. Noone should, can oblige IPUT to keep the shared in private. IPUT enjoys glasnost.y. > He doesn't like you any more than he likes me. Yes, we know. It's because Mr Andersen doesn't trust. anymore the secretary of IPUT, because she knew, but - althought she had some obscure love-st.ory with him while they met at a Landsbergis-party some years ago in Toscana) didn't tell to him what Szaraz Belshar wrote to Ben Vautier about him: >Eric Andersen is a notorious liar, >he is not an artist., >not even a non-art-artist., >but a monomaniac, boring bureaucrat, who >thinks he is the only expert of Fluxus and all, >who is an uncurable solipsist.(.) (Well, the laughter exploded when Vautier wrote it to Benjamin Patterson who then wrote it to Mr. Andersen who wrote back that it was him who wrote it first. to IPUT about himself who then wrote to Ms. Belshar - and all this happened during one afternoon between 5 countries . Did you hear that?) (...) - 9. Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:43:03 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (St.Auby Tamas) From: Ken Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Public forum. Dear Tamas, I don't agree with your idea of broadcasting private correspondence, but if you feel everything ought to be public, then go right ahead and publish what you want. We can communicate via a public forum rather than through private notes. Yours, Ken -- Since Ken unsubscribed from the FLUXLIST how can IPUT >communicate via a public forum rather than >thro
FLUXLIST: For those of you who missed our live webcast and wanted to see:
For those of you who missed our live webcast, and wanted to see: (1)the only *existing footage* (!) of gh hovagimyan doing performance art live rap from the 1970's... (2)everything you wanted to know about ricardo dominguez and more...including *early film work w/ critical art ensemble*... rtsp://z.parsons.edu/jihui/jihui8-17-00.smil (this was our first try at live webcasting, so pardon for the technical difficulties)! (this was tam monitor electrolounge #1: chats + presentations) (thanks to zhang ga for organising jihui: "the meeting point", and parsons/the new school: center for new design for the infrastructure support)
FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V1 #420
In a message dated 8/18/00 5:44:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > OK, seriously kids- > > I need you, Jay, and everyone else's regular mail address if you want to > play. > For those of you that gave it to me thank you and give me a bit of time as > there was about a thousand gravey kids that wanted to play with me. > > That is all. > > DISCO > > > okay, I've got a room available for mail fun please send to 84-Rooms! Norman Sherfield 10308 O'Dell Avenue Sunland CA 91030-3006
FLUXLIST: Tamas Norwegian Mail Friend
I think "St.Auby Tamas" "IPUT" "Hugh!" "aa" has a lot of the old Spirit, a highly developed sense of humour, an excellent awareness of the fun and seriousness of strategies and tactis (as well as other kinds of communication) and perfect timing. I'm pretty sure that he once pissed on the Red Square in Moscow. Ciao Eric
