FLUXLIST: Fwd: Art Guys stay current!
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Re: FLUXLIST: re response to FAPO
jason, get a life. c. -- carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED] jason pierce wrote: > > who's complaining, bennett is not being considerate > i beg to differ only 3 of those post were complaints > the rest were my poetry. o.k i will quit > refering to bennet in my poetry. if you recollect > we asked him nicely. Bennet has posted ALOT > of poetry. this would make the fourth complaint. > i'm just saying every time he post a poem i am going > to post one to mock him. we only ask that he post > links to his poetry instead but obviously that is > JUST WAY TOO MUCH TO ASK. since you are > counting my post why not count bennett poems too? > how many poems has he posted? my apologies > but i am still going to post mock poetry untill > bennett stops. that's right when did this become a poetry > list??? i would like herr Bennett to answer > > murf du sag > > sig nog no non non non [ripened fruit] > jurg ur red due sog [mixed fruit] > becon fut your derelict mict [tangerines] > mookoo mookoo moogo giapan [strawberries] > mushu pork [almonds are not fruit] > liggu ligggu shrimp fried rice [pomengranates] > licko licko fundu for the masses [grapes, the seedless variety] > > jason pierce > rep Fluxlisters Against Poetry Overload -- carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FLUXLIST: re:response to FAPA
i want to address some of these things specifically: 1. my wish was not to make this public, it was a private request. it is only now public because Bennet or whoever desired it so. as i told no one except my "co conspirators". so if anyone is irritated by this public issue you should know who to blame. 2. you are asking me to consider Bennetts feelings etc. simply, i did so to the best of my ability...i wanted Bennett spared of any public ridicule that some felt would be neccessary to get him to quit posting so much poetry. HENCE the private request. subsequently FAPA was attacked as being "sneaky" "undemocratic" and against "freedom". and now is being attacked for not respecting his feelings. when that was the sole intent of the private request. so both criticisms are erroneous. 3. the only source of the lack of respect Bennett is getting is from his desire (or someone he told) to make the issue public. 4. as far as "present" "discuss" and "theorize about our work" i was simply presenting discussing and theorize about my "work" and Bennetts work. we don't object to Bennett "presenting" his work in the form of links, as we felt he has somewhat abused his "presenting " privelages, rights or whatever. 5. as far as "the Tournament of Blockades" goes only 2 submitions have been generated (both by myself) one: an anonymous blockade and two: a blockade of Bennetts poetry bombardment. so there is nothing to report. i also Blockaded some right-libertarians on an anarchy news group but i felt that blockade not worth submiting. 6. barring any further attacks against FAPA this will be the last that i personally will say on the issue UNLESS Bennett continues to post his poetry not in the form of a link (posting his actual poetry instead of providing a link to his poetry posted on an outside source) if he does then i will continue my personal blockading activities. so it's up to him if he wishes to coninue this "lack of consideration" for his feelings. as it was up to him from the very start. he had all the time in the world to consider that he may be posting too much poetry. Jason Pierce rep. Fluxlisters Against Poetic Aggression At 4:47 AM -0700 5/25/01, FLUXLIST-digest wrote: >Jason, > >This is addressed to you since you claim representation of FAPA. > >Since 14th September 2000 you have sent 14 posts to Fluxlist. 8 of these >have been to complain about John M. Bennett sending poetry to the list. That >means over 50% of your input to this list in the last 9 months has been >complaint-based. > >Whilst I respect your right to say that you do not wish to see John's poems >on Fluxlist I do not think the way you are going about this respects John's >feelings in any way. > > > >In reality, in the history of this list, complaints and the sort of action >you are now undertaking have led to more people leaving the list (or ceasing >to post frequently) than anything else. Whilst some people may think that >John posts too many of his poems I'm in no doubt that everyone would rather >see the result of individual creativity in their inbox as oppose to the >material you're currently posting which not only causes bad feeling towards >John but on your own admission is designed purely to spoof John's form of >creative expression and done in a manner (FAPA) that can only be hurtful and >make John feel uncomfortable here. John joined Fluxlist because he saw a >copy of the Fluxlist poetry book "Happy New Ears" that we did a while back. >John's poetry has stimulated interesting discussion on the list in the past >and no doubt will do so again. Those who don't like it can indeed delete it >and for those receiving the digest version I don't believe that John's short >texts can be that much of a burden even if his poetry does not appeal to >you. > >Jason, I would urge you to stop this and consider the feelings of others a >little more. When you subscribed to Fluxlist you will have received a long >message about the list which included the following: > >"Along with the obvious invitation to historians and theorists of the past, >we encourage active artists to present, discuss, and theorize their work." > >John's posts fit into the above framework. > >Also from the introductory notes about the list is this: > >"Several kinds of behavior will result in expulsion from Fluxlist. Abuse, >harassment, impersonation, violation of confidentiality, reposting of >private posts without permission and spamming are unacceptable. " > >I think your spoof poems are bordering on harassment now and ask that you >stop this campaign and post more positive material instead if you wish to >contribute to the list. You've made your point, now is the time to let it >lie before things get unpleasant. > >On a more positive note you never told us what happened with your 7th Annual >Tournament of Blockades. Some info on how that turned out would be great. > >cheers, > >Sol.
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FLUXLIST: project - heart radish cross
Heart Radish Cross Project You all are invited to participate in this visual exchange. The link below is a 800 x 600 pixel jpg image (163kb) composed of some small ink drawings of hearts radishes and crosses. Download this image and change it, add to it, mutate it, do anything you like with any part of it. It is fairly simple and in black and white but feel free to change it color it any way you want. The only "rule" is that there should be at least one element from the original image visible. Please post a URL to view your image. Have fun! Mick http://www.alltel.net/~moontea/hrc.jpg
Re: FLUXLIST: re response to FAPO
At 01:29 PM 5/25/01 -0500, you wrote: >my apologies >but i am still going to post mock poetry untill >bennett stops. Aggression!!! So much energy focused into the head of a needle for the forcing of one's will. Human nature? Dull , at best. Deborah
FLUXLIST: re response to FAPO
who's complaining, bennett is not being considerate i beg to differ only 3 of those post were complaints the rest were my poetry. o.k i will quit refering to bennet in my poetry. if you recollect we asked him nicely. Bennet has posted ALOT of poetry. this would make the fourth complaint. i'm just saying every time he post a poem i am going to post one to mock him. we only ask that he post links to his poetry instead but obviously that is JUST WAY TOO MUCH TO ASK. since you are counting my post why not count bennett poems too? how many poems has he posted? my apologies but i am still going to post mock poetry untill bennett stops. that's right when did this become a poetry list??? i would like herr Bennett to answer murf du sag sig nog no non non non [ripened fruit] jurg ur red due sog [mixed fruit] becon fut your derelict mict [tangerines] mookoo mookoo moogo giapan [strawberries] mushu pork [almonds are not fruit] liggu ligggu shrimp fried rice [pomengranates] licko licko fundu for the masses [grapes, the seedless variety] jason pierce rep Fluxlisters Against Poetry Overload
FLUXLIST: Mick's digital art website
http://www.alltel.net/~moontea/main.html Well here it is. Please take a look if you're interested. I am interested in any comments or reactions to these pieces. Thanks. Mick
Re: FLUXLIST: Visual Poetry/JMB
Dear fellow workers: Visual poetry I think actually begins with cave paintings--petroglyphs-- the relationships among presenting visually and sounding-- forms, colors, lines considered as both visual and sound-- and then used as scores as well for performance-- dance-- often it is considered that Mallarme created modern visual poetry with his "Un Coup de des"-- the Russian and Italian Futurists--of very different political ideas-- and Cubists painters and poets, the Dadas--contributed much to modern visual poetry- the history of it has been very rich in the European and Latin American countries-- in the USA we are very fortunate to live in a time with John M Bennett's LOST AND FOUND TIMES--Harry Burrus' O!!Zone--Crag Hill's SCORE-- David Stone's BLACKBIRD-- journals that present the great variety of visual poetry being done-- all over the world-- also there are many presses in Canada that publish a lot of good work-- and Dimitry Bulatov in Russia-- also web sites such as one from here in Wisconsin-- Karl Young's Light and Dust--which has a lot of work by Patchen and also the great bpNichol-- d.a.levy as well from the USA-- I have been published a lot as a visual poet--I don't have a definition of it-- I always have the hope that, like mail art, it will remain a wide open field-- in each person and place it becomes an event-- the page becomes a space of action-- it is true so called Concrete Poetry "solidified" many people's ideas of visual poetry-- but it was before and has continued to be site/sight/cite of work that has varied greatly-- with historical/political implications-- that is its power actually--I support strongly Bennett's "poetic aggression"-- freedom of speech, writing--these are essential-- the history of visual poetry in itself--in all its presentations--has been a struggle with this -- and as well a great shout and song of freedom-- davidbc
FLUXLIST: blockade RE bennet
this poetry stuff is fun! i to am an aeroplaner if he posts his poetry i have the right to criticize or make fun of it. it's fun i was secretly hoping it would come to this. his poetry bombardment has been insulting to me and a few others for a while. but herr bennett did not even consider that. dorf on golf with fresh fruit addendum there were pigeons in a house [strawberries] cre pux chicken pox [bannanas] molotov [pomengranates] random word thing [bits of crush apple] peotry that could be written by a comuter AI [squash, not a fruit] except of course much better [bats known to eat fruit] "moss rift of slowness storage rice" [a juicy center, the monkey bites into] Bennet just writes in that indeterminant style (grapefruit] because jeg lurf morf it's very easy [the seedless variety] that way eick eick he can pretend he's as artist [stuck to the bottom of their toes] muddle fuddle ideterminant poetry is the easiest to proliferate [locust not a fruit] and it's been done 5 million times before [locust like fruit] just can't wait to read 5 million more [fruit is ambivalent to locust] mark the center of the glass [pineapples not as deadly as was previously thought] bennet must be such an ass [oranges are still popular] jason pierce rep. Fluxlister Against Poetic Aggression
Re: FLUXLIST: Date: Tue, 25 May 2094 21:33:36 -0400
Jackson mac low is certainly in the spirit of fluxus and has had some associations with fluxus people--in any case, fluxus in some sense means taking communicative means and playing with them, whether those means are visual, verbal, sonic, etc--after all, higgins's intermedia includes all these. And, as John notes, the list is what the list becomes. We've never been very prescriptive--that is, if you want it different start posting different things. AK ddyment wrote: > not sure how to phrase this. i really mean no offensive by it and it's not a > direct response to anyone in particular (i skim so fast i don't even know > who's who anymore). the question is > > when did this become a poetry site? > > i'm not opposed to poetry, but it has little in common with fluxus. you > could argue that concrete poetry overlapped into fluxus (a very little) but > of all the contributions fluxus made to culture (performance, events, > multiples, artists' books, etc) concrete poetry has aged the worst. > > i think of emmett williams as the only fluxus artist who would identify > him/herself as a poet first and foremost. and his output has been > consistently mediocre. has anyone /read/ his autobiography? his something > else press years (the best things he's done) are completely ignored due to > something that happened with dick higgins which he never forgave (an > interesting story for those in the know). that which is included, is > unbearably dull. > > i realize i am in the minority when i say that this list would benefit from > a more historical perspective. i am not against the idea of new art emerging > and being disseminated online. but if the concern is really NEW then start a > new forum. why call it fluxus? it's like those boring artists on ebay who > try to sell their work as genuine fluxus. it's not continueing a tradition > (and who wants to do that, anyway) - it's exploitation. > > fluxus was just a name chosen at random,from the dictionary. there are many > more. > > dave > > i'm sure this lives up to my passive/aggressive reputation. forgive me.
Re: FLUXLIST: Visual Poetry
hi pedro, this index was sent to me by clemente padin when i asked, what is visual poetry? bests, carol :) Pedro wrote: > > John, > I have a question. > This arose in conversation recently. > Who came up with Visual Poetry? > I'm guessing it was the Futurists with all their wild experiments > with Fonts and typography. > You may not know the answer but I thought you might. > Does Bern Porter figure in to this picture anywhere? > And where does all this fit in to Fluxus? > I hope that's not a lot of work. > I know your sight limits your time on the computer. > Thanks, > Pedro -- carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Title: Directorio de Poesía Visual Arbol Veloz Art & Video Exhibit Arte Con Sciència Bienal Internacional de Poesía Visual Burning Press Christy Sheffield Sanford Ciberpoema Animado Clemente Padin Concrete Poems Concrete Poetry Concretismo Correspondence. Poetry Video Cut-Up Machine Cut-Up. Cyberpoetry Directory : CyberPoetry Gallery Cyberpoetry Décio Pignatari. Concretismo Edgardo Antonio Vigo Eduardo Kac. Holopoetry El Operador Visual en la Poesía. Guillaume Apollinaire Gutenberg Mail Art Gallery Fluxus Online Fringe Hai-Rise. Urban Haikú Indra´s Net : Hologography Ink Fix Junkie Poetry Video Jim Andrews Kave on Web Light & Dust Poets Literary Television Marcel Duchamp Marcel Duchamp National Poetry Asociation Poesía Experimental en América Latina Poesía Virtual Poesía Visual y Tridimensional Poesía Visual Poetry Video Postypographika Proto-Anthology of Hypermedia Poetry Robert Kendall Rodrigo Cerqueira. Poesía Concreta Selections from Visual Poems S. Holzbauer Splintered Fields The Departament of Objects and Delusions The Peter Finch Archive The Think Artist Index Ubuweb, Visual, Concrete & Sound Poetry Visual Poetry in Latin America 3 ViTre di Polipoesia Voices & Visions. Video-clips Web Koch William Burroughs. Cut-Up Technique Wonderfully Absurd Temple
FLUXLIST: # a letter from mary //draft v2
# a letter from mary //draft v2 the rotting jesus when the ice that clings on to your beard is screaming agony how 'bout unabashedly bawling your eyes out how 'bout remembering your divinity Let him kiss me with the kisses of this mouth My tongue, every atom of my blood, formed from this soil , this air But to what purpose Disturbing the dust on a bowl of rose-leaves You know how it feels when the real world encroaches Rubbing elbows with the unemployed and you Together we went traveling, as we received the call He spends his life walking the streets of New York City --See the tuna fleets clearing the sea out --See the Bedouin fires at night I sit in my house for days on end and stare at roses in the closet Dishes in the sink, the TVs in repair Dont look at the floor, Dont go up the stairs Oh God help me Hold my breath I want you to notice when Im not around Youre so fucking special... Falling, yes Im falling, Go ahead make yourself comfortable darlin Im not doing this to be thanked, laugh if you want to Youre an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill. With those eyes Just a breath Can send me back To Bethlehem one eye pointed upwards looking for the holes in the sky one eye on the little flashing red light we see Tibet through the binoculars of the people Though I know that evenins empire has returned into sand Vanished from my hand, Im so glad that you have decided to come you have watched on repeat the story of your life across the ceiling and in review to the souls desires, the body listens what the flesh requires and I can see you-- Your brown skin shinin' in the sun Little red feet with big blue toes and I still pray for I do not know Other echoes
Re: FLUXLIST: Date: Tue, 25 May 2094 21:33:36 -0400
Dave & Pedro and all: Fluxlist is not a poetry site, but "poetry" (that is, playing with language for a variety of reasons/ends) is a part of it as it was/is with much of Fluxus activity. A listsite is what people make of it and put into it. I have no problem with changing the name but calling it Fluxlist seems fine, as it's a common point of reference for most people in it. I don't agree that "concrete poetry has aged the worst" , tho. I prefer the broader more inclusive term "visual poetry" (of which concrete poetry is a subtype) and in my experience, visual poetry is an extremely dynamic international activity, and growing livelier every day. Its history goes way back to the very beginnings of writing, and it is in all cultures with any form of written language. Much has been written about this. It was certainly part of Fluxus, however you want to define that movement. The current period of visual poetry you might say begins back at the beginning of the 20th century with the Russians. At least the use and social/cultural meaning or place of it as a kind of outside or alternative or avantgarde art begins about then. The futurists certainly gave it a big boost. And I would say Bern Porter does visual poetry, tho he may not think of it quite that way (or even care particularly). The *term* "visual poetry* is fairly recent in general usage; I'm not sure who came up with it first. I started using it maybe 20 years ago as a general term to include various things like concrete poetry, various kinds of drawn or calligraphic poetry, collage poetry, shaped poems, etc. Anything in which the visual experience of the text is a major element in the work. Of course one could say that ALL poetry may be visual in that it includes blank spaces at the ends of lines, which must be perceived visually. (Tho that can also be perceived as a marker for oral performance) Some thoughts on the matter... Onword, John At 06:33 AM 5/25/01 -0700, you wrote: not sure how to phrase this. i really mean no offensive by it and it's not a direct response to anyone in particular (i skim so fast i don't even know who's who anymore). the question is when did this become a poetry site? i'm not opposed to poetry, but it has little in common with fluxus. you could argue that concrete poetry overlapped into fluxus (a very little) but of all the contributions fluxus made to culture (performance, events, multiples, artists' books, etc) concrete poetry has aged the worst. i think of emmett williams as the only fluxus artist who would identify him/herself as a poet first and foremost. and his output has been consistently mediocre. has anyone /read/ his autobiography? his something else press years (the best things he's done) are completely ignored due to something that happened with dick higgins which he never forgave (an interesting story for those in the know). that which is included, is unbearably dull. i realize i am in the minority when i say that this list would benefit from a more historical perspective. i am not against the idea of new art emerging and being disseminated online. but if the concern is really NEW then start a new forum. why call it fluxus? it's like those boring artists on ebay who try to sell their work as genuine fluxus. it's not continueing a tradition (and who wants to do that, anyway) - it's exploitation. fluxus was just a name chosen at random,from the dictionary. there are many more. dave i'm sure this lives up to my passive/aggressive reputation. forgive me.
Re: FLUXLIST: Visual Poetry
hey sol, i always end up contributing to what i first complained about. let's call it poetic justice. not sure why kp is so underrated in the concrete poetry circles. perhaps his work is more personal/political than the colder concrete poets. i prefer his other work myself. the journal of albion moonlight, for example. or some of the love poems. and my fave concretist is local boy bp nichol. yours, dave thanks for not highlighting the negative aspects of my post. -Original Message- From: Sol Nte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: May 25, 2001 10:02 AM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Visual Poetry >Dave wrote: > >>kenneth patchen is often overlooked and >should not be.< > >I would agree and assume you're referrring to books like >"Wonderings"...do you have any ideas why he's overlooked? > >cheers, > >Sol. >
Re: FLUXLIST: Visual Poetry
Dave wrote: >kenneth patchen is often overlooked and should not be.< I would agree and assume you're referrring to books like "Wonderings"...do you have any ideas why he's overlooked? cheers, Sol.
Re: FLUXLIST: Visual Poetry
pedro, my response to poetry on this site comes immediately after your request below. this is a coincidence only. they both arrived in my mailbox at the same time. dick higgins published a history of pattern poetry that should answer most of your questions. bern porter figures early in as a practitioner of foundpoetry (and thereforevisual). kenneth patchen is often overlooked and should not be. yours, dave -Original Message- From: Pedro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: May 25, 2001 9:34 AM Subject: FLUXLIST: Visual Poetry >John, > I have a question. >This arose in conversation recently. >Who came up with Visual Poetry? >I'm guessing it was the Futurists with all their wild experiments >with Fonts and typography. >You may not know the answer but I thought you might. >Does Bern Porter figure in to this picture anywhere? >And where does all this fit in to Fluxus? >I hope that's not a lot of work. >I know your sight limits your time on the computer. > Thanks, > Pedro >
FLUXLIST: Date: Tue, 25 May 2094 21:33:36 -0400
not sure how to phrase this. i really mean no offensive by it and it's not a direct response to anyone in particular (i skim so fast i don't even know who's who anymore). the question is when did this become a poetry site? i'm not opposed to poetry, but it has little in common with fluxus. you could argue that concrete poetry overlapped into fluxus (a very little) but of all the contributions fluxus made to culture (performance, events, multiples, artists' books, etc) concrete poetry has aged the worst. i think of emmett williams as the only fluxus artist who would identify him/herself as a poet first and foremost. and his output has been consistently mediocre. has anyone /read/ his autobiography? his something else press years (the best things he's done) are completely ignored due to something that happened with dick higgins which he never forgave (an interesting story for those in the know). that which is included, is unbearably dull. i realize i am in the minority when i say that this list would benefit from a more historical perspective. i am not against the idea of new art emerging and being disseminated online. but if the concern is really NEW then start a new forum. why call it fluxus? it's like those boring artists on ebay who try to sell their work as genuine fluxus. it's not continueing a tradition (and who wants to do that, anyway) - it's exploitation. fluxus was just a name chosen at random,from the dictionary. there are many more. dave i'm sure this lives up to my passive/aggressive reputation. forgive me.
FLUXLIST: Visual Poetry
John, I have a question. This arose in conversation recently. Who came up with Visual Poetry? I'm guessing it was the Futurists with all their wild experiments with Fonts and typography. You may not know the answer but I thought you might. Does Bern Porter figure in to this picture anywhere? And where does all this fit in to Fluxus? I hope that's not a lot of work. I know your sight limits your time on the computer. Thanks, Pedro
FLUXLIST: Puddle
nape cluster of yr shove stone mice gregation stampered like yr knee moss rift of slowness storage rice statue dries and crumbles dense wasp wall shimmers in the TV light rape detention in the muddy rain your guest rumbles, tape of phones sinking in the bathtub faucet lost rug chews, some collection!, clung snort falters at the knob's thumb gas Puddle gas steeple curving up but falters snort the sandwich moose of rug lost corn lodged against the sinking phones house paper or was your rain befuddled amply snored or rapt light grease cuddled in the wall wasp or armpit heavy as statue. rice scattered brightly on the moss knee you showered dried the mice stone rubbed slow against my nape John M. Bennett
FLUXLIST: Fwd: Poesía Visual : convocatoria [] Visual Poetry : call [] VORTICE ARGENTINA
FYI - Fernando Garcia Delgado and his group do some excellent projects. Here's one: X-PH: V4.4@orb6 From: "VORTICE ARGENTINA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Subject: Poesía Visual : convocatoria [] Visual Poetry : call [] VORTICE ARGENTINA Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 03:43:57 -0300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 4to ENCUENTRO INTERNACIONAL DE POESIA VISUAL, SONORA Y EXPERIMENTAL BASES DE LA CONVOCATORIA VORTICE ARGENTINA INVITA A PARTICIPAR DEL 4to ENCUENTRO INTERNACIONAL DE POESIA VISUAL, SONORA Y EXPERIMENTAL. SE PODRAN PRESENTAR OBRAS Y PROYECTOS EN TODOS LOS FORMATOS: PAPEL, OBJETO, VIDEO, PERFORMANCE, ACCIONES, AUDIOVISUALES, AUDIO EN CASSETTE, CD'S, VIDEO, ETC., CON TEMA Y TECNICAS LIBRES. NO SERAN ACEPTADAS POESIAS TRADICIONALES NI SE HARAN LECTURAS DE POEMAS. NO DEVOLUCION DE LAS OBRAS; ESTAS FORMARAN PARTE DEL ARCHIVO VORTICE ARGENTINA. RECEPCION DE OBRAS Y PROYECTOS: HASTA EL 30 DE JULIO DEL 2001. EXHIBICION: FECHA Y LUGAR A CONFIRMAR. ENVIAR OBRAS Y PROYECTOS A: VORTICE ARGENTINA - 4to Encuentro de Poesia Visual BACACAY 3103, BUENOS AIRES C1406GEE, ARGENTINA EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: www.vorticeargentina.com.ar A TODOS AQUELLOS QUE QUIERAN REALIZAR UNA ACCION, PERFORMANCE O UN PROYECTO EN PARTICULAR, SE RUEGA COMUNICARSE POR E-MAIL PARA LA COORDINACION EL EVENTO. SE AGRADECE LA PARTICIPACION Y DIFUSION DE LA PRESENTE CONVOCATORIA + 4th INTERNATIONAL MEETING OF VISUAL, SOUND AND EXPERIMENTAL POETRY INTERNATIONAL CALL VORTICE ARGENTINA ASKS ROUND TO PARTICIPATE IN THE 4th INTERNATIONAL MEETING OF VISUAL, SOUND AND EXPERIMENTAL POETRY. CALLING FOR WORKS AND PROJECTS IN ALL FORMATS: PAPER, OBJECTS, VIDEOS, ACTIONS, PERFORMANCES, AUDIOVISUALS, AUDIO TAPES, CDs, VIDEO, ETC. FREE THEME AND TECHNIQUES. NO TRADITIONALS POEMS. ARTWORKS WON'T BE GIVEN BACK TO THE ARTISTS; THESE WILL BE PART OF VORTICE ARGENTINA ARCHIVE. DOCUMENTATION TO ALL PARTICIPANTS AFTER THE PROJECT FINISHES. WORKS & PROJECTS' RECEPTION DEADLINE: JULY 30, 2001. EXHIBITION: PLACE & DATE TO BE CONFIRMED. SEND WORKS AND PROJECTS TO: VORTICE ARGENTINA - 4th Visual Poetry Meeting BACACAY 3103, BUENOS AIRES C1406GEE, ARGENTINA EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEBSITE: www.vorticeargentina.com.ar ANYONE INTERESTED IN CARRYING OUT AN ACTION, PERFORMANCE OR OTHER ASSORTED PROJECTS, PLEASE SEND E-MAIL IN ORDER TO COORDINATE THE EVENT. WE'LL APPRECIATE ANY PROMOTION OF THE CURRENT CALL
FLUXLIST: Whew!
Friends:
Many thanks for all your comments re the PAFA spat. I'll be staying on the
list. I notice some of my messages from over a week ago have started to
appear, so there must have been some network problems somewhere. (In spite
of Pierce's claims to the contrary I have rarely if ever posted more than 4
emails a week: 4 short poems. I don't do the long ones here, my eyes can't
take it) I was wondering if maybe some of my messages were being
suppressed, and some of my wonderings on that matter may yet come
through, but apparently that wasn't the case. A couple of those messages
said I wanted to unsubscribe but please ignore those.
I actually enjoy spoofs/rewritings/remakings/hacks etc of my work and have
published hundreds of such works in various ways over the years. I feel
that art is both strongly individual and unique, and at the same time
should be completely available for collaboration of any kind because in an
important way all art is also collaborative/non-individualistic, and has no
ego boundaries. Pierce's spoof seems a tad mean-spirited, but at least
it's a step in the right ("write") direction. Try it again, Jason! Maybe
you'll discover something.
Josh, I like your "Aeroplaner" a lot and would like to print this one
somewhere, perhaps in Lost & Found Times, or in Void, or in one of my other
imprints. OK? If so, send me your mailing address and I'll get a copy to you.
Onword!
John The Poetry Aggressor
Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST question, attached files?
Hi einar, >I also do digital art...my website is http://www.symbolika.co.uk .< Nice flash interface and interesting images. >What might be interesting is a collaboration based on the chinese whispers game. One artists starts the picture, sends it to the next who sends it back etc etc. A dice could be rolled each image is started to see how many times the picture will go back and forth.< Yes, or something like the surrealist's exquisite corpse.each person works on a blank section of a larger image? Anyway, a couple of my digital samples are as follows: Using Truespace and a nice Java applet (I didn't author the applet). http://sol23.freeservers.com/lake.html Truespace + Photoshop used in my contribution to this project, scroll down for my name: http://www.homestead.com/newroutines/earthpeace.html Picasso e-book http://www.zyarts.com/ebook/ this is great and stiil open to participants. My page in the Picasso e-book...just a drawing in photoshop. http://www.zyarts.com/ebook/sol.html I had some more digital art on the web but I changed what was on which servers recently and so my main site is now at http://www.artden.freeserve.co.uk/ More of my stuff will appear on this space as I get the time but it also houses the Fluxlist I-zone Gallery and a couple of other bits and pieces. Currently I'm spending more time on audio work than visual stuff but that will change as it's a constant ebb and flow for me between the two. Anyway, I'm keen to pursue any collaboration with a chance aspect. Brainstorm away cheers, Sol.
Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST question, attached files?
hi, I also do digital art...my website is http://www.symbolika.co.uk . What might be interesting is a collaboration based on the chinese whispers game. One artists starts the picture, sends it to the next who sends it back etc etc. A dice could be rolled each image is started to see how many times the picture will go back and forth. Jason - Original Message - From: "Mick Boyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 1:07 AM Subject: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST question, attached files? > Dear Fluxlisters, > > I am new to this list. I make digital art and would like to share some of it with > this group. Is it ok to post messages with attached image files ( .jpg format > usually under 100kb) ? Or do the members of this list prefer a a clickable URL > link ? I will wait to hear your response. > > Also, if there any digital artists interested in collaborating on some digital > pieces via email please contact me. > > Mick > > > >
FLUXLIST: Response to FAPA
Jason, This is addressed to you since you claim representation of FAPA. Since 14th September 2000 you have sent 14 posts to Fluxlist. 8 of these have been to complain about John M. Bennett sending poetry to the list. That means over 50% of your input to this list in the last 9 months has been complaint-based. Whilst I respect your right to say that you do not wish to see John's poems on Fluxlist I do not think the way you are going about this respects John's feelings in any way. You write: >so the worry is over the health of the list. say someone doesn't like it and sees 7 or 8 (sometimes more) Bennett poems a week that's just one (or more?) person(s) unlikely to participate in the list. or dissmiss it as a bunch of people wanting to cram their poetry down your throats if you are stupid enough to subscibe to the list.< In reality, in the history of this list, complaints and the sort of action you are now undertaking have led to more people leaving the list (or ceasing to post frequently) than anything else. Whilst some people may think that John posts too many of his poems I'm in no doubt that everyone would rather see the result of individual creativity in their inbox as oppose to the material you're currently posting which not only causes bad feeling towards John but on your own admission is designed purely to spoof John's form of creative expression and done in a manner (FAPA) that can only be hurtful and make John feel uncomfortable here. John joined Fluxlist because he saw a copy of the Fluxlist poetry book "Happy New Ears" that we did a while back. John's poetry has stimulated interesting discussion on the list in the past and no doubt will do so again. Those who don't like it can indeed delete it and for those receiving the digest version I don't believe that John's short texts can be that much of a burden even if his poetry does not appeal to you. Jason, I would urge you to stop this and consider the feelings of others a little more. When you subscribed to Fluxlist you will have received a long message about the list which included the following: "Along with the obvious invitation to historians and theorists of the past, we encourage active artists to present, discuss, and theorize their work." John's posts fit into the above framework. Also from the introductory notes about the list is this: "Several kinds of behavior will result in expulsion from Fluxlist. Abuse, harassment, impersonation, violation of confidentiality, reposting of private posts without permission and spamming are unacceptable. " I think your spoof poems are bordering on harassment now and ask that you stop this campaign and post more positive material instead if you wish to contribute to the list. You've made your point, now is the time to let it lie before things get unpleasant. On a more positive note you never told us what happened with your 7th Annual Tournament of Blockades. Some info on how that turned out would be great. cheers, Sol.
FLUXLIST: Re: James's question on Ben Vautier
James wrote: >Can anyone tell me what this is --many thanks for any kind of info, background, etc A white folder containing: Participations to the Festival of Non Art -- Anti Art -- Truth Art -- How to Change Art and Mankind --That Took Place from the 1st to the 15th of June 1969, in the World. (Festival Non Art -- Anti Art -- La Verite est Art -- Comment Changer L'Art et L'Homme: Partout dans le mond, du Ier au 15 Juin 1969). Fluxus, Nice 1963. Organized by Ben Vautier.< I keep meaning to look this up but you might try asking Ben Vautier himself. E-mail him: [EMAIL PROTECTED] He also has a vast amount of stuff on the web which you may not have seen, look at http://www.ben-vautier.com/ Hope this helps. cheers, Sol.
Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST question, attached files?
Hi Mick, >I am new to this list. I make digital art and would like to share some of it with this group. Is it ok to post messages with attached image files ( .jpg format usually under 100kb) ? Or do the members of this list prefer a a clickable URL link ? I will wait to hear your response.< Unfortunately the Digest version of the list doesn't support attachments and images do cause problems with that version of the list. If you want to share images put them on a website and post the URL. >Also, if there any digital artists interested in collaborating on some digital pieces via email please contact me.< I'm always interested in collaboration. Please e-mail me offlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) and we can plan something. anyhow, welcome to the list, cheers, Sol
