Re: FLUXLIST: [fmII] - Project details for Tempest for Eliza

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> started flashing black and white lines. I believe hackers just put keystroke
> loggers on target machines which record all keyboard key presses to a log

Nono ;-)

Same effect. Less visible without such a program.

H.

FLUXLIST: What is teaches you...

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> Isnt that effect used since years for spying, what you do on your keyboard?
> 
> Ask any hacker,


It teaches me more, how incredible stupid this list is, anyway:


   generated music in your radio. it teaches you that your computer can
   be observed. Tempest for Eliza works with every monitor, every


<...>

   
   This is one really cool piece of software that shows how easy it is to
   tap into what is seen on the screen. And also the fact that one can
   

> > >Tempest for Eliza is a program that uses your computer monitor to 
> > >send out AM short wave radio signals. You can then hear computer 
> > >generated music in your radio.<
> > 
> > This is cool beyond belief!!!
> > 
> > Thanks Kathy :-)
> > 
> > cheers,
> > 
> > Sol.
> > 
> 

Re: FLUXLIST: [fmII] - Project details for Tempest for Eliza

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Isnt that effect used since years for spying, what you do on your keyboard?

Ask any hacker,

H.

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Sol Nte wrote:

> >http://freshmeat.net/projects/tempestforeliza/
> 
> >Tempest for Eliza is a program that uses your computer monitor to 
> >send out AM short wave radio signals. You can then hear computer 
> >generated music in your radio.<
> 
> This is cool beyond belief!!!
> 
> Thanks Kathy :-)
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Sol.
> 

FLUXLIST: Re: pix

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Dearest, I have to leave, trains, but thanks for the mail.

H.

On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, bibiana padilla wrote:

> 
> In the email I thought I'd send I was asking Heiko if he wanted a pix of 
> AVTEXTFEST or a pix of me.
> 
> If it was thee first one, here's the picture of the past AVTEXTFEST (january 
> 2001): Carlos Gutiérrez, he's one of my coorganizers; Giancarlo Grande, 
> italian video director that presented a video poetry installation and an 
> essay about the posibilities between video and poetry; then it's me, with 
> glasses on; Joel Kuzsai, Octavia Davis and Bill Marsh, they presented 

Re: FLUXLIST: pix

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Not yet, I think.

H.

On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, bibiana padilla wrote:

> 
> did I send the pix for Heiko?
> 
> _
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
> 

Re: FLUXLIST: From The London Ministry Of Dizziness...

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> BIBIANA PADILLA MALTOS
> AVTEXTFEST general coordinator

I want a picture.

Re: FLUXLIST: The artification of Ono's anti-art

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Hi,

On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, ann klefstad wrote:

> I saw the YES YOKO ONO show here and was underwhelmed. 
> Much of her earlier work is precise, honed, elegant, effective. 
> But as one goes forward in the work, it becomes ingenuous, dreamy in a 
> way I find silly, less and less pointed, more and more naif. 

Maybe as I was very underwhelmed by some John Lennon ducumentations
some month ago. I am not shure if he was anyhow stronger in his time.
Outside of his songs.

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: Police car samples (sirenes etc..) wanted.

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Well, reading old emails, I think I should repeat the question.

Btw, is "embedding" anyhow fluxish aka elegant in the Ken Friedman sense?

> > > intricate sound loops embedded in
> > > 
> 
> Coundnt find any sounds. I wish there were a simple directory like
> http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/mp3s/police/
> 
> Ok..
> 
> H.
> 
> 

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus/Fluxlist

[Heiko Recktenwald]

At 9:54 Uhr -0400 17.07.2001, Robin Thurlow wrote:
<<
course, all communities go through cycles & occasionally there are tensions
that arise, but this will lead into a creative period again.  For the most
part I've never felt shy about joining in on discussions or participating
in projects when they're proposed... so you know there is a sense of
community and support
>here.  My favorite aspects of Fluxus is that it changes the way I think
>about ordinary worldly things.  There 's quite a bit I don't yet
>understand but I love hearing of various artists' documented projects &
>even sometimes taking part.
>>

Check out scoop. The URL is scoop.some5thing, maybe altavista knows more.

Re: [Fwd: FLUXLIST: test x]

[Heiko Recktenwald]

At 10:46 Uhr +0100 16.07.2001, Roger Stevens wrote:

>I brought my harp to the party
>and nobody asked me to play


Yeah, but arent we all playing some kind of harp ?

Lilith had a harp in Roma, nice instrument. Bom sharkar !

The g2k affair, hmmm. Had many sides. Harping in the internet,
irony, isnt it the same what listgod Cage sayed, if you put some irony in it ?
I had some Bitnet experiences with different listservs and never experienced
something like that. Maybe it is some kind of "second wave" phenomenon,
like nettime, which is moderated. The internet is so cool and fluxish.

Anyway, maybe this is simply all too much Maciunas aka authoritarian, no
humor etc...

Btw, I remember we once were discussing Pornography. That old ladies might
be offended
etc. Is or was fluxus such an old lady group ?

H.

Re: [Fwd: FLUXLIST: test x]

[Heiko Recktenwald]

At 9:47 Uhr +0100 16.07.2001, Roger Stevens wrote:
>>As much as it might be valid in general, I think we are a private list.

>I agree.
>Whoever said the list was a democracy?

But, on the other hand, see it as a party, and we, as a group, could decide
to go.

Re: [Fwd: FLUXLIST: test x]

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Eric,

>Listowners, who try to solve disputes by banning people should meet no
>respect.
>
>Listowners not respected should step down.

As much as it might be valid in general, I think we are a private list.
Somebody is paying for it.
And he can do whatever he wants. Thats life.

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: test x

[Heiko Recktenwald]

At 18:41 Uhr -0400 15.07.2001, Reed Altemus wrote:
>So no, it is not so strange to me that there  is no definition of Fluxus.
>  RA   Of course, nobody defined >it. Why is that so strange?

And what is the difference between a definition and those rules of Ken ?
Just Kens "art" or art ?
Well, who was the greatest Fluxus artist ? Beuys ? Blablabla.

Re: FLUXLIST: test x

[Heiko Recktenwald]

>> StAubryThomas:
>>
>> Piss off, will you.

I like him. Even if he writes sometimes things I see in a different way.

It was extremly stupid by whoever was responsible for this to block a topic
from discussion and not a person/sender.

Re: FLUXLIST: test x

[Heiko Recktenwald]

At 1:01 Uhr +0200 14.07.2001, Eric Andersen wrote:
>Not only highly appreciated by Emmett Williams, Arthur Koepcke, Tomas
>Schmit and
>myself but by most artists connected to the network and finally by
>George Maciunas
>with a delay of some 10 years.

Well, as you seem to know them all, what did you or do you think of Dick
Higgins ?

And, speakinf of Mr M, what do you think of Al Hanson ? Was he an "artist" ?
Which works would you say are "art" ? (I liked the early theoretical things
on Happenings most.
And his sentence: I dont like artists who make other artists bad.)

And I dont care if any "original fluxers" participate in this list.
As I didnt care about Ken very much. If he was an "artist" or not.

To be an "artist", thats mostly a personal view of others. He was a
cofounder of
this list, which was mostly based on Higgins internet experiences. Higgins
liked
to "see things fly".  Ken was sometimes a little bit pedantic. Both praised
Mr M very much.

What do you think of Als pornographic stuff ? I think such stuff was once
topic in
fluxus politics. There we can see allready some peoples lameness...

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: test x

[Heiko Recktenwald]

>What they are asking for carries no weight, and you are escalating

Blablablabla. Please give us a definition for "censorship".

Re: FLUXLIST: be WAP a loo la

[Heiko Recktenwald]

At 19:22 Uhr +0200 17.05.2001, alan bowman wrote:
>what happened to the WAP stuff?

And what happened to WAP in general ?

Reminds me to the Polaroid craze here some time ago.

I had the opinion it would be more wise to boycott
such things.

Make your webpages easy, test them with lynx,
will make any handies happy.

Re: FLUXLIST: Boulez, Andersen and democracy

[Heiko Recktenwald]

>center. During 1984, one of the departments decided that they were not
>going to have a department head,


1984, this was late.

Re: FLUXLIST: test x

[Heiko Recktenwald]

>So - what is/ was genius 2000?

An online personality by some idiot. He was spamming the list with shit.
Question remains how this should have been adressed properly.
Was there any "censorship" ?

I think he would have been kicked off every list.

H.

>
>I (and probably a lot of others)
>haven't a clue what anyone's been talking about on this topic these last few
>weeks
>
>XXX
>Roger

Re: FLUXLIST: Police car samples (sirenes etc..) wanted.

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> > intricate sound loops embedded in
> > 

Coundnt find any sounds. I wish there were a simple directory like
http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/mp3s/police/

Ok..

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: Police car samples (sirenes etc..) wanted.

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> intricate sound loops embedded in
> 

Thanks. I'll fetch this page next time I am online.

Online, offline, how long will this paradigm survive ?? It sux.

Does anybody remeber the movie, with the saxophonplayer falling from thwe
roof and somebody saying "Thats Doppler Effekt" ?
Jim Jarmuch, Permanent vacation or something similar. 

American cinema: How important is glamour etc in viewers view ?

H.

FLUXLIST: Creative Writing...

[Heiko Recktenwald]

How fluxish is that ?


H

Listen tccc28.rm at orang.orang.org

Re: FLUXLIST: Police car samples (sirenes etc..) wanted.

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> Nope. The siren-sounds are routinely altered so that the
> citizenry doesn't become accustomed to them and turn a
> deaf-ear. Here in San Francisco, there are the loudest
> sirens I've ever experienced: pedestrians plug their ears as
> these vehicles pass-by... the intransigent are frequently
> run-down anyway.

Please send me some examples, longer pieces in mp3 ;-)

Best,

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: microsoft outlaws perl & other open source software

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Hi,

> Imagine spending months building a large Web application, then 
> getting served a subpoena because the license for one of the 
> components doesn't let it be installed with other parts of the 
> application. That would happen if you used Perl or most other open 
> source software in a Web application with Microsoft's Mobile Internet 
> Toolkit. In its license for the Mobile Internet Toolkit, Microsoft 
> forbids developers to use open source software in conjunction with 
> Toolkit.

Such limitations of the MS licence are unvalid. Maybe good enough for a
story but not good enough for subpoena.

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: microsoft outlaws perl & other open source software

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> getting served a subpoena because the license for one of the 

Fear, seems to be one of the main elements of the american dream.
Or bullshitting people.

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: Police car samples (sirenes etc..) wanted.

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> NIGHTLY WINDOW... YOU'D BE SURPRISED JUST HOW DIFFERENT THEY
> SOUND:  APPARENTLY THE PITCH/RHYTHM IS CHANGED AT INTERVALS
> SO AS CONTINUE TO ATTRACT ATTENTION/DISPLEASURE. 

Thats Dopplereffekt ?

Anyway, to use such a sound is music is something different.

Re: FLUXLIST: tests

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> >It is interesting to see how silent everybody becomes, when your voice
> >is heard.
 
Sounds like wishfull thinking. What do you want ? 

Lions ;-)

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: mailing lists-help wanted (fwd)

[Heiko Recktenwald]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 11:22:51 +0200
From: St.Auby Tamas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: mailing lists-help wanted


High! (sic)

alan bowman wrote:
>
> i have to compile a (predominantly Fluxus related) mailing list
> i'm not really sure where to start
> does anyone have any helpful suggestions?
>
Start at letter A:

Eric Andersen

Roerholmsgade 18, IV th.
Copenhagen K DK-1352 Denmark

Hugh! (sic)

Tamas St.Auby
NETRAF-agent
(Neo-Socialist Realist International Parallel
Union of Telecommunication's Global
Anti-Arthistory-Falsifiers Front)

FLUXLIST: Police car samples (sirenes etc..) wanted.

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Hi, subject says it all, looking for some police car samples to incoporat
such sounds into the music (orang.orang.org etc.)

Offlist ;-)

And maybe the samples could be converted to mp3 ;-)

Thanks,

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: mailing lists-help wanted

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> does anyone have any helpful suggestions?

Get an old 486 and install mailserver software on it. I think majordomo is
UNIX.

www.freebsd.org

H.

RE: FLUXLIST: sonar festival in barcelona

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> Barcelona. This year was the 8th edition. Here in Spain, this festival is
> becoming a reference festival for all who loves this music, althought

And german VIVA 2 is pushing it as some kind of reference in
europe, maybe it is.

> "progressive music" includes a very large range of types. This year, for
> example, you could see dance  Dj's or Terry Riley, some new jazz shows or
> Sonic Youth playing compositions from "Good bye 20th century".

This is new news ;-)

Thanks, H.

Re: FLUXLIST: Makemusicfast.zip

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> at http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/makemusicfast.zip (1,2 MB).

Although this is the first, I would recomend also cecilia, for macs and
linux, sgi. The greatest. There is some tccc at orang.orang.org mp3 seems
to be broken, so tccc28.rm -

FLUXLIST: euro festival in europe

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Well, the euro coin is coming. Collect old coins ;-)

FLUXLIST: sonar festival in barcelona

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Anybody ever heard of this ? electronic music

FLUXLIST: Makemusicfast.zip

[Heiko Recktenwald]

at http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/makemusicfast.zip (1,2 MB).
Midikey for making MIDI files on the ordinary PC keyboard,
dont know if such a thing exists for Macs, and some kind of sampler,
to play samples into wavs, midi2cs and csound. For win 95 etc.

H.

FLUXLIST: Maneater

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Hi, there is still www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/adidasnike.html
in public_html. Eating men, what is this after "simple" killing of men?
Is this more cruel ?

I like the Adidas and Nike logos. Imagine "no logo" there.

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Stopwords

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Dear Julia,

> I got to the point when I understood that everyone who counts was/is German

The original sentence, saying, is "the country of poets and thinkers".
The idea was the old ideal of Hulboldt, the german universities etc.
Every "poet and thinker" from abroad is welcome. 

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Stopwords

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Hi,

On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Losonczi Júlia wrote:

>  the language
> > of "poets and thinkers":
> I got to the point when I understood that everyone who counts was/is German

Nothing important. A saying, that is used with irony.

H.
> 
> > ab aber als am an auch auf aus

Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Stopwords

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Ok,

On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Losonczi Júlia wrote:

> Yes

Here comes spanish, aybe tomorrow french ? 

Sorry, nothing from italy yet.

Voila:

a al ante atras asi aun aunque aqui alli

bajo

cabe con contra cada casi como cual cuales cualquiera cuando como cuanto cuantos

de desde del demas donde

en entre el este esta esto estos estas ese esa eso esos esas aquel aquella aquello 
aquellos aquellas ella ello ellos ellas etc

hacia hasta 

la lo los las

mas me mio mia mios mias mi mis

no ni ningun ninguno ninguna nosotros nosotras nunca nuestro nuestra nuestros nuestras

para por porque pero pues

que quiza quizas

segun si so sobre se sin sino suyo suyas sus

tras tu te tal tales tambien tampoco tan tanto tantos tanta tantas tuyo tuyos tus

un uno unos unas

vosotros vosotras vuestro vuestra vuestros vuestras

y yo ya

Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Stopwords

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Hi,

On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Losonczi Júlia wrote:

> Yes, please. Spanish and French and even German!

Spanish in the other mail, but I did promise to much, there is no french
version. But, thats life, *dutch*, voila:


aan achter af alle als

behalve ben bent bij

daar daardoor daarom dan dat de derhalve deze die

echter een elk elke en enige

haar had hadden heb hebben hebt heeft hen het hier hij hun

ieder iedere iemand ik in is

ja jij jouw jullie

kan kunnen

maak maakt maar maken met mijn mits moest moet moeten

na nee niemand niet noch nog nu

of omdat onder ons onze ook over overige

sinds

tot totdat tussen

u uw

van vanaf verder voor voorts

waar waarom wanneer wat wederom weer welk welke werd werden wie wij 
word worden wordt

zal zich zij zijn zoals zou zouden zullen

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Stopwords

[Heiko Recktenwald]

On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, m'lore wrote:

> si, oui u. ja!

Your wish is a command for me.

Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Stopwords

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> Yes, please. Spanish and French and even German!

Ok, here is also something in my own language. Not dutch, but the language
of "poets and thinkers":


ab aber als am an auch auf aus

bei beim bin bis bist

da dadurch daher dann darum das dass daß dein deine dem den der deren des
deshalb die dies dieser dieses doch dort du durch

ein eine einem einen einer eines er es euer eure euren

für fuer

haben hatte hatten hattest hattet hätte haette hätten hätten
hier hinten

ich ihr ihre im in ist

ja jede jedem jeden jeder jedes jener jenes jetzt

kann kannst können könnt könnte konnte koennen koennte könnten koennten

machen mein meine mit muss muß musst mußt muessen müssen muesst müßt
muesste müßte

nach nachdem nein nicht noch nun

oder

seid sein seine seit sich sie sind soll sollen sollst sollt solltest
sonst soweit sowie

und unser unsere unter über ueber

vom von vor

wann warum war waere wäre was weiter weitere welcher welcher
wenn wer werde werden werdet weshalb
wie wieder wieso wir wird wirst wo wurde

zu zum zur zurück 

Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Stopwords

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> >someone on Fluxlist wants a envelope with a few words...

Somebody on Fluxlist wants some spanish stopwords ?
Or french ? Or even german ?

H.

FLUXLIST: Stopwords

[Heiko Recktenwald]

a above according across actually adj after 
afterwards again against all almost alone along 
already also although always among amongst an and 
another any anyhow anyone anything anywhere are aren 
aren't around as at be became because become becomes 
becoming been before beforehand begin beginning behind 
being below beside besides between beyond billion both 
but by can can't cannot caption co could couldn
couldn't did didn didn't do does doesn doesn't don
don't down during each eg eight eighty either else
elsewhere end ending enough etc even ever every
everyone everything everywhere except few fifty first
five for former formerly forty found four from
further had has hasn hasn't have haven haven't
he hence her here hereafter hereby herein hereupon 
hers herself him himself his how however hundred 
ie i.e. if in inc inc. indeed instead into is
isn isn't it its itself last later latter latterly
least less let like likely ll ltd made make
makes many maybe me meantime meanwhile might million
miss more moreover most mostly mr mrs much must
my myself namely neither never nevertheless next nine
ninety no nobody none nonetheless noone nor not
nothing now nowhere of off often on once one
only onto or others otherwise our ours
ourselves out over overall own per perhaps rather
re recent recently same seem seemed seeming seems
seven seventy several she should shouldn shouldn't
since six sixty so some somehow someone something
sometime sometimes somewhere still stop such taking
ten than that the their them themselves then
thence there thereafter thereby therefore therein
thereupon these they thirty this those though
thousand three through throughout thru thus to
together too toward towards trillion twenty two under
unless unlike unlikely until up upon us used using
ve very via was wasn we we well were weren
weren't what whatever when whence whenever where 
whereafter whereas whereby wherein whereupon wherever 
whether which while whither who whoever whole whom 
whomever whose why will with within without won 
would wouldn wouldn't yes yet you your yours
yourself yourselves

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Ernest Lergon feedback

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> >B. For the HMTL:
> >
> >1. replace all '\' with '/' - we're in UNIX...

Re: FLUXLIST: the pictures!!!!!!!!

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> > I think if something works okay in IE and Netscape then it's okay. Of course
> > Lynx is a whole other matter ;-)

Links to gifs and lynx with xv.

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: brads pics

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> credibility on stuff posted here is a little low.

This is new to me.

And, havent seen the pics, and will probably never see them, what counts
most is taste.

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: the pictures!!!!!!!!

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> should be:
> 
> IMG SRC="ehgallery/fluxus.jpg" WIDTH=268 HEIGHT=297 BORDER=5

or: 

IMG SRC="ehgallery/fluxus.jpg" ? ;-)

Re: FLUXLIST: the pictures!!!!!!!!

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> can someone s'plain me why my site worked with IE and not Netscape?

Maybe you used a MS HTML Editor ?

Everything more special than notepad is wasted. Learn the 4 or 5 html tags
that you need and it will work on any webbrowser in the world.

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist in Venice

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> coming soon the bowman/ay-o/gigliotti loud shirt demonstration pics

Giolitti or Fassi ?

FLUXLIST: Do we need XML ?

[Heiko Recktenwald]

I redesigned the MIME thing at http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/
There is now also something in VRML, featuring the Popalley.
So, if you have your cosmo player installed, go for it ! 

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: fluxlistbox

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> from a disc image. However I'll leave it to Owen to say whether the files he
> has are in a form suitable to go ahead. Owen I remember you had problems
> with some of the archive files? We could always share a disc image via ftp.

Archives could be put as is on a cdrom.

Re: FLUXLIST: fluxlistbox

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> Wow!!!
> 
> That's great. . . .
> 
> Owen
> 
Dear Owen, do you still think of the CDRom ?
It doesnt seem to difficult to make such a thing.
Maybe you did allready some prototypes.
A filesystem and wavs. We could tree it, in the
Greatfull Dead and Mileslist tradition: you are the head,
some people with a burner are branches. CDRoms are extremly
cheap, to send a CD isnt very expensiv. Well, there is no unique 
design, but lot of stuff for historians after we give our
things to archives.

Branches should get gifts by leaves. Other CDRoms, whatever they want.
Who has a burner ?

Me. But I dont have much money, german post is very expensive ;.)

Maybe we could have european braches and american. And some kind of a
piece of paper, to be put into the jewel box or whatever. Maybe Sol can
print labels ? ;-)

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: (no subject)

[Heiko Recktenwald]

As we had had this topic some time ago. It is so beautifull to see Brad
mailing without his 1994 Sig.

On Sat, 12 May 2001, { brad brace } wrote:

> 
> Hi!  Would Loid please contact me regarding the pineapple sage.  Good news!  
> The Lady Slipper is up!
> 
> 

FLUXLIST: uploaded

[Heiko Recktenwald]

2 audio files to orang.org. Search for wawa.

And a version of the grep game, part of the fluxbox cd/cdrom, that never
appeared. Whats up with it, Owen ?

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: Some Fluxus/Higgins, etc connections here

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Speeking of Higgins, does anybody remember this piece ?

H.

 sevenfly.pdf

FLUXLIST: SMIL etc..

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Did expanded the Netscape, Edit, Preferences, Application, SMIL, MIME,
Kipperberger, Godard etc page at http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/

There are some names of application now. How to view SMIL etc.

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: Listen..

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> So much interesting stuff going on it seems...a very exciting time for
> computer music/sound.

La societe du spectacle.

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: 12hr KEYWORDS

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Terence asked:

> > The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project since 1994 
> 
> when's the next project?

His .sig is much to long, and I dont understand the "isbn" in it, but..
it still seems to be fresher than.

Looks like a design experiment.

FLUXLIST: Listen..

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Has anybody ever seen listen.gmd.de ?

H.

FLUXLIST: Buggy as hell...

[Heiko Recktenwald]

SMIL.

Could be so funky, if Quicktime and Real would agree on standards.

Simple asynchromous filelists are ok.

You can see whats happening.

At http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/

Screenshot is SGI, background is Kippenberger, music is Miles at Stanford
72 and Chick, McLaughlin etc at Ann Arbour 70. Video clips are "Godard",
"Nochmal Godard", "Hallo America", "Und nochmal Godard", "Eichmann in
Jerusalem", "Nochmal Godard, mit Eisenbahn", "Wie wir leben", "Peng,
peng", "Yeah, have fun !!"

There is something for each OS, including Unix.

Best wishes,

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: David Tudor Symposium at the Getty

[Heiko Recktenwald]

I wish I knew more about his machines.

Re: FLUXLIST: Sex, Drugs, and 4 minutes of music

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> the Oxford '73 Fluxshoe, John Cale talks about La Monte Young and Lucy

First I read John Cage but Cale is obviously...

Tell us more about your music experiments.

H.

FLUXLIST: Sixty-Four (64) Answers Re: John Cage, RE: [silence] 101 Questions(re John Cage) (fwd)

[Heiko Recktenwald]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:21:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lama Kunga Gyaltsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Ralph Lichtensteiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Storrs Barrett Booch-Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sixty-Four (64) Answers Re: John Cage,
 RE: [silence] 101 Questions (re John Cage)

Sixty-Four (64) Answers Re: John Cage

#1: If you had only been to the seminar a year ago Monday, you would have
been able to pick up a copy of the 101 Questions (re John Cage). Well, here
they are again ... [see below]

#2: Nothing is accomplished ...

#3: It is nice to be able to listen, when you get the chance.

#4: [next]

[Storrs Barrett Booch-Williams, Composer]
--Original Message--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralph Lichtensteiger)
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: April 23, 2001 4:54:00 PM GMT
Subject: [silence] 101 Questions (re John Cage)


101 Questions (re John Cage)

"Human nature is not a machine to be built after a model, and set to do
exactly the work prescribed for it, but a tree, which requires to grow and
develop itself on all sides, according to the tendency of the inward forces
which make it a living thing."
(John Stuart Mill, On Liberty)

Upon our travels along the alleys and byways of the Cage Road, it has
sometimes occured to us, that it is not all gold which glitters there, and
that some interesting points worth querying have still been left open by our
contemporaries. To bring flexibility into this (sometimes too academic
scene) we developed the 101 questions.

Call for answer/response !
We invite you to send us answers (or new questions) concerning this list of
101 questions. We will process (using chance operations) this material in a
second version of the 101 Questions project. This second version will be the
basis of a live performance simultaneously with a work of approx. the same
length.

All questions are also available on CD as lecture-concert version: 101
Questions performed simultaneously with 2nd, 4th, 5th and 8th Quartet for
one (or up to three) speaker, piano,
electronics, glockenspiel, toy piano and percussion or performed
simultaneously with Do You Think Cage part 1, 2 and part 3 for speaker,
piano, electronics and percussion You can order this unique recordings by
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by fax:
+49 69 1337 4110

http://www.geocities.com/lichtcage/musique_trouve.html

1) Do you think John Cage's view of the east is profound?

2) Did you ever listen to the piece Atlas Eclipticalis for piano solo in
full length?

3) Are sounds just sounds or are they Beethoven?

4) Do you think that we live in an anarchic society since the information
technology revolution?

5) Did you enjoy reading the text Empty Words by John Cage?

6) Would you agree that nothingness in art is not nothingness?

7) Do you think John Cage read the Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes?

8) Do you think Leviathan would have had an influence on Cage's ideas about
society and anarchy?

9) Why did John Cage dislike recordings of his work?

10) It is true, and at the same time not true, that John Cage wrote the
composition 4'33''. Do you agree that the piece 4'33'' would not exist
without the work of Anton Webern and Erik Satie?

11) Despite embracing a certain universality towards all tones (as implied
in his "there is no noise, only sound" concept), Cage seems to have
practiced a very strict distinction between inventiveness and
open-mindedness (i.e. tolerance or intolerance of certain principles for his
work), for whenever we see him confronted with music forms bearing any
elements of a forseeable kind, or let us say, predictable nature, his
open-mindedness drew the line exactly there (as opposed to composers like
John Zorn, who help themselves to slices of whatever tickle their fancy) -
this adherence to unpredictability seems, in part, to have propelled him
towards aleatoric principles. View, in particular, his scathing comments on
jazz and its clinging to a rythmic base (as also found in all variations of
folkloric influences worldwide, by the way)... Perhaps Cage rejected any
relationship with any form of music that leads towards any kind of trance
state for his own body of work?

12) Just because he enjoyed Riley and Reich, did not mean he had to create
in similiar vein. Did Cage, in general, dislike perpetrating music forms
that others had already invented? As in, "it's already been done by others,
no need for me to do it as well"?

13) Will new vegetarian dance be as energetic as meat-eating dance has been?

14) If we drop beauty, what have we got?

15) Do you think John Cage is a word-laundromat?

16) Would John Cage have liked to be more famous or popular?

17) Did John Cage like the fine arts more than sex?

18) Why does sex play no role in his work?

19) Is John Cage's work really important?

20) Did John Cage enjoy his guru status?

21) Is it true that John Cage tested mushrooms by feeding them to dogs?

22)

Re: FLUXLIST: Protools

[Heiko Recktenwald]

This is just beginning.

On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, claudio chea wrote:

> hello,
> 
> is this an online collab project or something i could participate in
> 
> please let me know if it isl,,
> 
> regards
> yituey
> www.mp3.com/yituey
> www.cornucopiapr.com
> www.ecodiscos.com
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Heiko Recktenwald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 1:11 PM
> Subject: FLUXLIST: Protools
> 
> 
> > Suggest another 1 minute project, or maybe 40 sec or whatever we agree.
> > >From the lessons of the first experiment:
> > 
> > Each participient should provide 1 file. Those files be mixed afterwards
> > by each party. So as many mixes as there are parties.
> > 
> > There would be two rounds.
> > 
> > *First we should create these files. Somebody starts and others add their
> > tracks. Each party is free to change its file/track until the end of the
> > round. 
> > 
> > The contributions should be just the added tracks, not more, not less.
> > This can be done with ProTools, that saves tracks in individual files.
> > For example. Voila, the URL:
> > 
> > www http://aria.digidesign.com/downloads/ptfstuff/
> > 
> > There are versions for Mac and PC, you dont have to download the 15 MB
> > demo session, but the docs are usefull.
> > 
> > *The final mixes, wellthe endproduct will be just many stereo files.
> > 
> > 1 minute and the 128 kbit mp3 stream of around 1 MB filesize could be
> > managed. But 40 seconds could be enough.
> > 
> > H.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

FLUXLIST: Protools

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Suggest another 1 minute project, or maybe 40 sec or whatever we agree.
>From the lessons of the first experiment:

Each participient should provide 1 file. Those files be mixed afterwards
by each party. So as many mixes as there are parties.

There would be two rounds.

*First we should create these files. Somebody starts and others add their
tracks. Each party is free to change its file/track until the end of the
round. 

The contributions should be just the added tracks, not more, not less.
This can be done with ProTools, that saves tracks in individual files.
For example. Voila, the URL:

www http://aria.digidesign.com/downloads/ptfstuff/

There are versions for Mac and PC, you dont have to download the 15 MB
demo session, but the docs are usefull.

*The final mixes, wellthe endproduct will be just many stereo files.

1 minute and the 128 kbit mp3 stream of around 1 MB filesize could be
managed. But 40 seconds could be enough.

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: Bush virtual pet game soars in China

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> URL ? And is there a PC version ? Or a handheld emulator ?
> > Get yours at http://www.eruptor.com/

All I found were flash animations of type application/x-director, saw
nothinggg.

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: Bush virtual pet game soars in China

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> While the U.S.-made PortaBush software for handheld computers wasn't 
> released with much fanfare last week, it became a big hit in China very 
> quickly.

URL ? And is there a PC version ? Or a handheld emulator ?

H.
> 
> The software's American designers noticed a huge traffic spike Thursday 
> coming from China, at one point reaching about 2,000 downloads in an hour 
> and threatening to overwhelm their servers.
> 
> "About 80 percent of the downloads were coming from China," Eruptor 
> Entertainment President Brad Foxhoven said Friday.
> 
> The White House had no immediate comment on the new Chinese interest.
> 
> Released a week ago by Marina Del Ray, Calif.-based Eruptor Entertainment, 
> the software toy is similar to the faded Tamagotchi craze. Players feed 
> their PortaBush, keep him happy and help him make vital national decisions 
> like whether to bomb teen singer Britney Spears.
> 
> 
> 
> Get yours at http://www.eruptor.com/
> 

Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Peter Brotzmann

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Thanks. Well, Wuppertal ;-)

Re: FLUXLIST: Peter Brotzmann

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> Does anyone have further info on his involvement? I don't have the Fluxus Codex 
>handy.

He was one of the Freejazzers here of the 60s and like every
"avantgarde" artist in the 60s here he has something to do with it.
Sorry, dont know more. Think he is from Wuppertal ?

Re: FLUXLIST: Subj: **Reminder: "NO SENSORS" <>

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Can somebody enlighten me in a problem, that is raised in the html part of
Christines message ? What exactly is "Carnivore" ? What is this piece of
software doing *exactly* ?

I heard of it that it is "terrible", but I dont know in what cases it
should be activ and what it is doing.

H.

On Sun, 8 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> 
> Cristine Wang
> Assistant Editor 
> NY ARTS Magazine
> 46 Mercer Street  7Fl  New York 10013
> (tel) 212.274.8993 (fax) 226.3400
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.nyartsmagazine.com
> 

Re: FLUXLIST: respecting the limitations of the 1 hot minute soundproject

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> which is, I would say, a composition more like an exquisite corpse

This is the misunderstanding. But in my understanding, this experiment is
open, and so it goes ;-)

No problem, I just liked the cecilia effects, like a violin, and the
falcon sounds etc were still there. Milder than before, less Captain
Beefhard like, less clicks. There is a moment after the big silence in the
middle when Zaps piano reappears that I really like. Sounds a little bit
ringmodulated now, so what. Etc..

But I understand that you were shocked.

Best,

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: fffo barcodes gifs

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> How can you refuse?

I must start Netscape for this ;-)

Ok, thanks !

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: 1 hot minute sound project

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Hi,

On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Cecil Touchon wrote:

> OK, I think I see your tact Heiko and will reintroduce the earlier

IMHO this is less a social question but an esthetic one, whatever you did
;-)

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: 1 hot minute sound project

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> versions now that it comes to me. But personally I believe all material
> that comes to each person from previous contributors should be kept
> intact and identifiable.  I want to hear everything from everyone in as

Ah, this was a misunderstanding. What means "intact and identifiable" ?

Zaps ambience and the computer game sounds are still there.

Well, modified, but they are still there.

Its an experiment.

Re: FLUXLIST: 1 hot minute sound project

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> All this does is eliminate my contribution and the initial "seed;" I think
> that either Heiko needs to remix, or the first two stages are to be
> readmitted at the end of the cycle. 

I think nobody at this experiment can expect his own contribution to be
like it once was. 

But experiences like this are part of the thing. 

Everybody has a different musical background. I think the original
ambience athmosphere was preserved. Some clicks less, so what...
Maybe Cecil has a microphone and a DAT recorder and some sounds from her
hometown. Or whatever she does with what she found. Lets see how the thing
changes.

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: 1 hot minute sound project

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> Listed to the interesting 1 minute. Now, correct me if I am wrong, but I
> don't hear the previous two works in there anywhere. I understood that

I did still hear them. With some modifications.

> each were supposed to add to the original but not subtract anything or
> extend beyond the one minute file.
> Maybe it is your intention that your one minute is to be overlaid onto
> the other work at the end? Kind of like you made a track?

I am playing with cecilia in the moment, not with cool edit pro or some
other multitrack program.

This is an experiment, other experiments may follow.

Dont be shy. All I did was some filtering. There is plenty of empty space,
silence, in the middle to sing or whatever. Or add something at the
beginning. Like Brad did. I doesnt matter if it fits into the stereo
sound. Make it sound more interesting. 

Well, best

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: 1 hot minute sound project

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> server domain [IP]:   mashica.com[195.61.23.43]
> user:  fluxlist
> pass:  situicide

Well, its done. The history.txt should be downloaded
in ascii, if you are on Mac or Windows.

The server knows the ren command, like in
ren bla.mp3 04_onehotmin.mp3, ah ;-)

Best,

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: 1 hot minute sound project

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> server domain [IP]:   mashica.com[195.61.23.43]
> user:  fluxlist
> pass:  situicide

Well, I got this, lets see, on another window...

Very nice !! ;-) There was something that I am now downloading
with bin and mget *

Well, there is a readme.txt, will tell me all I need to know.

Thanks,

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: fffo barcodes gifs

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> > your barcodes as requested.

Sorry, I did miss that.

Could somebody be so kind to forward it ?

Thanks,

H.

FLUXLIST: Silence surrounding creation of new NAS DNS study committee?(fwd)

[Heiko Recktenwald]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:32:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Ronda Hauben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  Silence surrounding creation of new NAS DNS study
committee?


  "National Academy of Science Enters the DNS Controversy
   New Committee Established to Do Study for US Congress"


   "Considering [the]... background and the official role of the NAS 
   to advise the US government on scientific matters, what expertise 
   is needed to fulfill this request by the US Congress? Does the 
   definition of the problem and the composition of the NAS committee 
   demonstrate an understanding of the challenge? "
From article in Telepolis:
http://www.telepolis.de/english/inhalt/te/7248/1.html

A process that made it possible to build the Internet was a process
that learned from what had been created toward determining what
was needed for future development. 

Is the composition of the new DNS NAS committee such that there is 
the expertise to learn the needed lessons from the current achievement 
of the Internet as a general purpose interactive and international 
human-computer-communications metasystem?

Judging by some of the biographies of the provisional members of the 
committee, there seems little indication that an understanding of 
the development of the Internet was the criteria for the selection 
of several of the members of the committee.

The public has 20 days from the date that the initial appointments 
were made to make comments on the selection of members. The initial
appointments were supposedly made on March 16. This would mean
that comments on the provisional appointments would need to be
submitted to the NAS by April 4.

In such a controversial matter, it seems a serious problem that there 
has been so little public discussion or awareness of the creation 
and composition of this committee thus far.

It would be good to see public discussion of the nature of the 
scope of the committee and its composition before the end of the 
comment period. 

This committee is charged with writing a report for the US Congress
which will serve as advice for the US policy toward the domain
name system development and its future.

This is an area of technical development that will impact all
users of the Internet, and yet a small group of people, a number
of whom seem to have limited knowledge of the nature of the development
of the Internet, are being charged with advising the US Congress on
the Internet's  future development.

It is hard to know how the public can have any impact on this process,
but one can predict what will be the outcome if the online community
continues to be excluded from the activity of the NAS in the formation
and workings of this committee.



Ronda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netizens
http://www.columbia.edu/~rh120/other/birth_internet.txt

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Re: FLUXLIST: Printing, painting on CD Roms. Howto ?

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> to write/draw on the CD itself. I personally like to use rubber
> stamps/pen/typewriter on blank CD labels.

The label idea. Hmm... I am looking more for direct ways for decoration.
Silkscreen printing comes to mind. But I have no idea what kind of color
(laque) to use.

CDs are so cheap today ;-)

Thanks,

H.

FLUXLIST: [silence] SILENCE PLEASE (fwd)

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Well, 1 Second ;-)

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:57:24 -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [silence] SILENCE PLEASE 

AN APPEAL FOR SILENCE

fourthirtythree.org is a series of projects to mark the 50th anniversary, in
2002, of John Cage's silent composition 'four minutes, thirty-three seconds'

SILENCE PLEASE is our first project. The aim is to collect
single seconds of silence (in the Cagean sense) from as many people as
possible and use them to create collaborative 'performances' of the piece
using contributions  from around the world.

 If you would like to contribute a second, please go to
fourthirtythree.org
for details

We look forward to hearing from you



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Re: FLUXLIST: wanna see a ridiculous review of a beuys show?

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> I've understood Beuys to be this very celebrity: his 'talks' were always

I like america and america likes me.

FLUXLIST: Printing, painting on CD Roms. Howto ?

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Hi, I got a burner and I am producing cds. Audio etc. Mixed should be.

The cdrom case can serve as a box for this and that, what lies around,
little papers, happy meal. Sotosay a picture frame. With glas. Great.

But how can the cdrom itself be decorated ? Any experiences anybody ?

What do you use, colors, materials ? Currently I use a roller pencil,
is this danceable ?



Everybody who isnt shure if he should get a burner, do it !



H.

Re: FLUXLIST: nw lngo

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> ja ja! ziz lizt iz mztly blabla budiez!

Compare this to Hansen etc.

FLUXLIST: Re: Carl Loeffler(was: net art history)(fleischmann|adrian|penny|Recktenwald|Biggs) (fwd)

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Biggs mentions Judith, mailcart etc, below:

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:33:13 -0500
From: nettime's re tracer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:  Carl Loeffler(was: net art history)
(fleischmann|adrian|penny|Recktenwald|Biggs) 



   Re:  Carl Loeffler (was: net art history)  
 monika fleischmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

   Re: Carl Loeffler (was: net art history)
 robert adrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   Re:  Carl Loeffler (and art history)   
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   Re:  Carl Loeffler (was: net art history)          
 Heiko Recktenwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

   Re:  Carl Loeffler (was: net art history)  
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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 01:46:20 +0100
From: monika fleischmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:  Carl Loeffler (was: net art history)

Hi Tilman,

.. for example Manfred Eisenbeis, Roy Ascott, Roger Malina knew him well.
Monika

At 1:11 Uhr +0100 16.03.2001, Tilman Baumgaertel wrote:
>At 20:23 19.02.01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
><...>
>>There's been interest in the "archaic days" lately, the period pre-1994
>>stretching back to the dawn of humankind. Carl Leoffler's death the other
>>day reminded me that his ArtCon newsgroup was one of my first contacts
>>with other artists on the net. I think both Heath Bunting and Brad Brace
>>were there.
>>
>
>Hi!
>
>Sorry for joining this thread so late, but I was on vacation.
>
>Murphy, you mention Carl Loeffler, and that he died recently, a fact of
>which I wasn't aware. In my research on early, pre-internet
>telecommunication art I kept encountering his name. He edited an issue of
>Leonardo Magazine on telecommunication art and started the art.com
>newsgroup - that is as much as I know of him.
>
>I tried at various times to contact him, but couldn't find his mail adress
>or a homepage, which was odd since he seemed to be one of the few art
>critics who championed this kind of art in the 80ies and early 90ies. I
>would have loved to interview him (to be honored as an ASCII paparazzi by
>kind souls), because he seemed to be an important person in the development
>of the development of net art before the net.
>
>Maybe you or somebody else who knew him wants to relate some memories on
>Carl Loeffler or even write kind of an orbituary? I think that would be
>fitting on this list and in the context of this discussion.
>
>Yours,
>Tilman
>
>
>...
>I think,
>and then I sink
>into the paper
>like I was ink.
>Eric B. & Raakim: Paid in full
>
>Dr. Tilman Baumgaertel
>Hornstr. 3
>10963 Berlin
>Tel/Fax. 030-2170962
>email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.thing.de/tilman
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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:50:56 +0100
From: robert adrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Carl Loeffler (was: net art history)

Hi Robin

>I'm beginning to think I imagined his death. I know I read an obit
>somewhere, probably Wired News, but searches have brought no mention.

Yeh ... was in NYC last week (sorry I didn't get a chance to visit
the Thing office) and asked a few people about Carl ... nobody knew
more than that they'd heard he'd died. Now that I think about it,
they were all probably Nettime readers and had read your report -
hmmm.

In the meantime I'm trying to find Fred Truck - an a

Re: FLUXLIST: nw lngo

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will
> be the official language of the EU rather than German which was the other
> possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded

I think there are much more nativ german speakers than english in EU. And
there is more than one "official language"...

I knew the text and it wasnt very funny anymore. Reminded me of my
criticism of this list, that it is so much about blabla. 

Re: FLUXLIST: Buddhas

[Heiko Recktenwald]

>have been tortured with medieval techniques,
>can't show the face to people
>& are slaves of husbands.
>without husband they are get throw the streets
>begging for money...
>
>m,
>
>this is a human problem to deale
>behind the stone budhas

Yeah. But this seems to be much the same in all traditional arab countries,
including Saudi Arabia etc..
Maybe it is different in Lybia.
>
>...pez

Re: FLUXLIST: Buddhas

[Heiko Recktenwald]

At 15:14 Uhr -0500 13.03.2001, Kathy Forer wrote:

>It's quite poignant how the absence of the Buddhas is nearly as
>powerful as was their presence.

Think there are less people now too, and nobody cared. Fluxus, luxus.

Re: FLUXLIST: Buddhas

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> > We, the undersigned, plead for an immediate end to the Taliban edict to
> > demolish Afghanistan's cultural heritage. We further urge the Taliban
> > spiritual leader Mullah Mohammed Omar to enter into dialogue with the
> > international community - including the Arab and Islamic governments that
> > overwhelmingly have condemned these actions - in order to explore
> proposals
> > to safeguard this irreplaceable cultural heritage from further, senseless
> > destruction. The edict of the 26 th of February 2001 to destroy
> pre-Islamic
> > and Buddhist objects-including the world's largest standing Buddha statues
> > at Bamiyan-runs counter to all the basic principles of respect, tolerance
> > and the wisdom upon which Islam is based, and is a breach of the Taliban
> > pledge made in 1999. We plead with Taliban authorities to stop this
> > irreversible assault on two millennia of Afghanistan's artistic and
> cultural
> > achievements, treasured not only as the spiritual birthright of Buddhists
> > everywhere but also as a universal cultural heritage for people of all
> > faiths and nationalities.


May the stones survive.

Re: FLUXLIST: 1 : h o t : m i n - sound : project

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> To solutionize the potential file transfer probs, Mashica suggests and
> offers FTP.

Thanks !!

Going away for a week or so, dunno if I have email there

Later,

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: 1 : h o t : m i n - sound : project

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Ah ;-)

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Cecil Touchon wrote:

> so what it the right kind of equipment that one needs to do this sort of
> work on one's computer? To general high quality sounds, mixing,
> collaging sounds together etc.?

First of all, you have to be able to convert mp3 to wav or aiff and back.
This is lossy btw. I doubt that many of the original suble sounds will be
preserved. But lets see or hear.

Then you need some editing software. I think most wav editors have a
"mixing" feature, somewhere near copy and paste. It is an alternativ
way of pasting. If you work with a copy of the original wav file
you can check it out first.

A cleaner approach would be an editor with multiple tracks. Like
cool edit pro.

H.

FLUXLIST: Sendewarteschlangenlaenge

[Heiko Recktenwald]

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Re: FLUXLIST: 1 : h o t : m i n - sound : project

[Heiko Recktenwald]

Ok. Good idea.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, zap strassburger wrote:

> 
> 1 : h o t : m i n___email : sound : project : 2001
>  
> one hot minute
>  
> Hello everyone, I'm planning a collaborative soundpiece and am looking for 
>contributors !!!
>  
> The plan is:
> someone starts out with one minute of sound/music in mp3 and sends ist to the next 
>person, who adds something to the mix without lenghtening it and so on (like you did 
>with midi). Voilà, in the end we have a complex international one-minute-piece 
>consisting of influences all over the world. Everything is allowed as long as you add 
>something. (of course nobody seriously thought about removing)
> So far, so good!
>  
>  
> The only catch to it:
> I would really like the mp3 to be in cd-quality (128kbps / stereo / 44kHz) meaning a 
>file size of ~950kb.
> WAIT I can hear you protest !!!
> You are right, BUT the great advantage is: We could add tiny little noises which 
>won't get lost to the last contributor, and it will be broadcastable / burnable if 
>anyone so desires! No sound gets lost during en/decoding, every crackle counts. We 
>have the whole palette from left to right and 50Hz to 20kHz.
>  
>  
> Technical:
> For those who fear large email-attachments we could alternatively set up a 
>freedrive-account or something, so that every paticipant could download the piece and 
>check the current progress.
>  
> Okay,
> hope you're hot now! Don't hesitate a minute and be a part of it.
>  
>  
> zap strassburger
> www.aboutblank.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: FLUXLIST: Seven Telephone Events

[Heiko Recktenwald]

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, { brad brace } wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Ken Friedman wrote:
> 
> > These events are copyright (c) Fluxus 1967, 1975, and copyright (c) Ken
> > Friedman 1967, 1975, 1979, 1992, 2000. All rights reserved. Permission is
> > granted to reproduce or perform these events provided that credit is given
> > and copyright is acknowledged.
> 
> Obscene Event
> 
> Officiously and tediously document for the sake-of-documenting 'art' for
> the sake of documenting and blindly 'legitimatizing' the pseudo expert
> practice of 'official artists.' Make more vicious empty circles; hung-up. 
> 
> (no c) /:b
> 
> 

FLUXLIST: =?x-unknown?q?Re=3A_FLUXLIST=3A_M=D03=EA=EE=E2=EE=E4=E8=F2=E5=EB=FE?=

[Heiko Recktenwald]

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? A once living language. Or olde germans as can be found in Grimms
dictionary with examples. Schnagarkische angsterdraeher

On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Roger Stevens wrote:

> hmmm
> 
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Re: FLUXLIST: Sound Thanks

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> although I remember Heiko mentioning that his encoder would do 8), however

Yeah. Telephone quality.. Check
http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/stanfor4.mp3 , around 20 minutes, around 1
MB...

I think 128 kbits/sec is what people call CD quality

Re: FLUXLIST: Sound Request

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> >I have tried to get some sound on the web site, but have come to a bit of a
> >halt 'couse I can't find a (free) utility to convert from CD to PM3 or WAV
> >files.  I may have to just re-record a bit into .wav & use that, but we
> >still want to convert to pm3 to offer the stuff for sale don't we ?

Think he means mp3.

cdda is the utility for "ripping" CDs. But I am not very much into this on
Windows, I use SCSI and tosha.

I am shure, an altavista search with "CD" and "ripping" and "Windows"
helps.

H.

Re: FLUXLIST: Tournament of Blockades news and FAQ

[Heiko Recktenwald]

> What are some good historical examples of "blockades"?
> 
> probably the best historical example is in WWI when the english and it's naval 
>superiority

Dont remember ;-)

But there was a even bigger one, by Napoleon.