Re: RE: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles
I fell in a creek at science camp and I looked like a fish-does that count? Dawgbadgergirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't want to look at a fish. They make me look smaller. Smaller than my trousers. And Allison's trousers, too.AND it wasn't only one time at band camp. It was at least two. That's what the fish said, anyway. I'm 5'3" if I stand up straight (and I never do).So there.BG>I remember this one time...>>...at band camp>>>No wait-a-minute...>>Yes the fish definitely makes me hook roller.>>-Original Message->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On>Behalf Of JJ>Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:08 PM>To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com>Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles>>>the fish>>--- Rod Stasick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>>> >> On 2006 Jun 20, at 3:01 PM, badgergirl wrote:>> >> > I have a question: Do these trousers make me look>> taller?>> >>> > Badgergirl>> > (very)>> >>> >> My question: Do her trousers make me look taller?>> >> >> R~~>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --->> Now playing: AMM - Coffin Nor Shelf>> >> >>__>Do You Yahoo!?>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: RE: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles
I don't want to look at a fish. They make me look smaller. Smaller than my trousers. And Allison's trousers, too. AND it wasn't only one time at band camp. It was at least two. That's what the fish said, anyway. I'm 5'3" if I stand up straight (and I never do). So there. BG >I remember this one time... > >...at band camp > > >No wait-a-minute... > >Yes the fish definitely makes me hook roller. > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of JJ >Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:08 PM >To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles > > >the fish > >--- Rod Stasick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> On 2006 Jun 20, at 3:01 PM, badgergirl wrote: >> >> > I have a question: Do these trousers make me look >> taller? >> > >> > Badgergirl >> > (very) >> > >> >> My question: Do her trousers make me look taller? >> >> >> R~~ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> Now playing: AMM - Coffin Nor Shelf >> >> > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles
I remember this one time... ...at band camp No wait-a-minute... Yes the fish definitely makes me hook roller. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JJ Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:08 PM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles the fish --- Rod Stasick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2006 Jun 20, at 3:01 PM, badgergirl wrote: > > > I have a question: Do these trousers make me look > taller? > > > > Badgergirl > > (very) > > > > My question: Do her trousers make me look taller? > > > R~~ > > > > > > > --- > Now playing: AMM - Coffin Nor Shelf > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles
the fish --- Rod Stasick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2006 Jun 20, at 3:01 PM, badgergirl wrote: > > > I have a question: Do these trousers make me look > taller? > > > > Badgergirl > > (very) > > > > My question: Do her trousers make me look taller? > > > R~~ > > > > > > > --- > Now playing: AMM - Coffin Nor Shelf > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles
On 2006 Jun 20, at 5:10 PM, Ann Klefstad wrote: There is a sort of bit of a fashion for high school boys to wear girls' trousers . . . ...while they're still in them... yeah, it was the same at *my* school! R~~ --- Now playing: Charles Mingus - Theme For Lester Young (aka "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat")
Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles
There is a sort of bit of a fashion for high school boys to wear girls' trousers . . . On 6/20/06 4:05 PM, "Rod Stasick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2006 Jun 20, at 3:01 PM, badgergirl wrote: > >> I have a question: Do these trousers make me look taller? >> >> Badgergirl >> (very) >> > > My question: Do her trousers make me look taller? > > > R~~ > > > > > > > --- > Now playing: AMM - Coffin Nor Shelf >
Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles
On 2006 Jun 20, at 3:01 PM, badgergirl wrote: I have a question: Do these trousers make me look taller? Badgergirl (very) My question: Do her trousers make me look taller? R~~ --- Now playing: AMM - Coffin Nor Shelf
RE: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles
Taller than what? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of badgergirl Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:02 PM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles I have a question: Do these trousers make me look taller? Badgergirl (very) From: Alan Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Tue Jun 20 02:25:58 CDT 2006 >To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com >Subject: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles > >Dear all, > > > >Here is a note to Fluxlist from Alison. Hannah arrives today (or >tomorrow) perhaps I can get direct questions to her too. She may not >have time to answer but I'll ask..anyone? > > > >> > > > > > > > >Oh Odin's Underpants its a B(owman)LOG > >http://bowmansramblings.blogspot.com/ > > > >Visit the Freeformfreakout Organisation Online: > >http://www.freeformfreakoutorganisation.net
Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles
I have a question: Do these trousers make me look taller? Badgergirl (very) From: Alan Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Tue Jun 20 02:25:58 CDT 2006 >To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com >Subject: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles > >Dear all, > > > >Here is a note to Fluxlist from Alison. Hannah arrives today (or tomorrow) >perhaps I can get direct questions to her too. She may not have time to >answer but I'll ask..anyone? > > > >> > > > > > > > >Oh Odin's Underpants its a B(owman)LOG > >http://bowmansramblings.blogspot.com/ > > > >Visit the Freeformfreakout Organisation Online: > >http://www.freeformfreakoutorganisation.net
Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles
FLUXLIST@scribble.com on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 12:10 PM -0500 wrote: > >I think that the answers that I seek arise from two questions: > >1) How to deal with critics, curators, and historians who insist that Fluxus >only existed at a particular time in history, and that it only involved the >group of atists who produced work that they called Fluxus within that time >frame? > >I know that one could choose to either ignore or confront them - but what >about a "middle way" towards mutual understanding? Yes, a middle way would seem the best - the curator types would have to admit that there is an ongoing tradition at least (and they are blind if they don't not see it) and the artists will have to admit that they are part of a tradition not the "original group." Now, yes this is separation of new and old seems counter to aspects of a Fluxus sensibility and, in fact, it is counter - at the same time historical distinctions are still valid and useful. The same way context/history is not only necessary but central to how we "make meaning" in general it is valid in all aspects of understanding of the whole issue of Fluxus, what it is and what it is not. Fluxus' history and its current strains/traditions is a major focus of the two issue that Ken and i did not Visible language. I have a section of artists statements on Fluxus and its influence on them from 12 current practitioners (and several on the Fluxlist) including Alan Bowman, David-Baptiste Chirot, mekal and, Sol Nte, and Walter Cianciusi. In the end I personally will come down to a different question and that is is it interesting? (there is plenty of stuff called Fluxus that is not very interesting and much stuff that is "not Fluxus" that is quite interesting). > > >2) How to deal with issues within the current community of practitioners who >seem divided between those that feel they are producing "new Fluxus work" >and those who feel that they are producing new work, of no particular school >or movement, but "in the Fluxus tradition"? > >Maybe these are both questions for which definitive answers can never be >found and for which the only solution is ongoing dialogue... Well answers are always less interesting then good questions. As to how to address this - in part you have to let the artists speak for themselves, but also realize that the audience will also have their own voice in the matter. This way they the answer of is it new work or part of a tradition will be answered collectively by both artist and audience, kind of like the art coefficient idea of Duchamp's but applied not to "is it art?", but "what kind of art is it?" > > >By the way, could you or Ann post a link to a site from which issues of >Visible Language can be ordered? http://www.id.iit.edu/visiblelanguage/ The web site is a little out of date so it does not list the issues, but they are 39.3 Fluxus and Legacy and 40.1 Fluxus After Fluxus and there is contact information about getting copies, it should be abut 20.00 for the double issue. Owen
RE: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles
Thank you Owen, I appreciate that you have brought your perspective to this conversation as I know that you generally prefer to listen rather than to speak in this forum. I agree that the view that you put forward is the most sensible and practical approach to the question. It also seems to correspond closely to views expressed by Dick Higgins and Ken Friedman who have addressed the question in the past. I think that it also corresponds to the views of most of us on the Fluxlist who respect (greatly) the work and ideas of the first Fluxus artists, while continuing to produce new Fluxus and/or Fluxus inspired work. I think that the answers that I seek arise from two questions: 1) How to deal with critics, curators, and historians who insist that Fluxus only existed at a particular time in history, and that it only involved the group of atists who produced work that they called Fluxus within that time frame? I know that one could choose to either ignore or confront them - but what about a "middle way" towards mutual understanding? 2) How to deal with issues within the current community of practitioners who seem divided between those that feel they are producing "new Fluxus work" and those who feel that they are producing new work, of no particular school or movement, but "in the Fluxus tradition"? Maybe these are both questions for which definitive answers can never be found and for which the only solution is ongoing dialogue... By the way, could you or Ann post a link to a site from which issues of Visible Language can be ordered? Allan Revich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Owen Smith Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:51 AM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles FLUXLIST@scribble.com on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 9:58 AM -0500 wrote: > >I would be very interested in hearing the thoughts of both Alison and >Hannah about the current status of Fluxus. If they are prepared to >address the "Dead/Alive/Both" question head-on that would be very >interesting, however their thoughts in a more general and less polemic >format would also be welcome. I.E. "What do you think about >contemporary Fluxus practice and where do you see Fluxus going >forward"? Ann K mentioned her article in one of the issues of Visible Language in a prior post - if you are interested in the above you should really read it for the essay covers may important and related issues to the topic of fluxus as an onging concern/approach. It is titled "What has Fluxus Created?" (or did you mention this already Ann?) My own point of view is that there is a historical Fluxus that is what it is (not dead, but more set or determined in a way) but there is also fluxus as a view and practice that is alive an well. This is another way Fluxus is like Zen - both have a history and an ongoing praqctice that are related but not determined one (present, evloving and changing) by the other (past, more set if not fixed) - I had a great conversation with George Brecht a number of years ago about this concept and he agreed that this is a useful way of looking at Fluxus. Owen
Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles
FLUXLIST@scribble.com on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 9:58 AM -0500 wrote: > >I would be very interested in hearing the thoughts of both Alison and Hannah >about the current status of Fluxus. If they are prepared to address the >"Dead/Alive/Both" question head-on that would be very interesting, however >their thoughts in a more general and less polemic format would also be >welcome. I.E. "What do you think about contemporary Fluxus practice and >where do you see Fluxus going forward"? Ann K mentioned her article in one of the issues of Visible Language in a prior post - if you are interested in the above you should really read it for the essay covers may important and related issues to the topic of fluxus as an onging concern/approach. It is titled "What has Fluxus Created?" (or did you mention this already Ann?) My own point of view is that there is a historical Fluxus that is what it is (not dead, but more set or determined in a way) but there is also fluxus as a view and practice that is alive an well. This is another way Fluxus is like Zen - both have a history and an ongoing praqctice that are related but not determined one (present, evloving and changing) by the other (past, more set if not fixed) - I had a great conversation with George Brecht a number of years ago about this concept and he agreed that this is a useful way of looking at Fluxus. Owen
RE: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles
What a great letter from Alison Alan. Thank you for sharing it with the list, and nice to know that she was so ammenable to sharing her thoughts with us. I would be very interested in hearing the thoughts of both Alison and Hannah about the current status of Fluxus. If they are prepared to address the "Dead/Alive/Both" question head-on that would be very interesting, however their thoughts in a more general and less polemic format would also be welcome. I.E. "What do you think about contemporary Fluxus practice and where do you see Fluxus going forward"? Thanks, Allan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Bowman Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 3:26 AM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles Dear all, Here is a note to Fluxlist from Alison. Hannah arrives today (or tomorrow) perhaps I can get direct questions to her too. She may not have time to answer but I'll ask..anyone? Ladles and Jellyspoons, All is on Noel's:
Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles
Also, all, the Visible Language double issue on Fluxus is out, it's put out by RISDe and available through them I think. Website as well. A very fun and interesting article on games and art as well as a thing by me, and mmore things by Owen and Ken and many others from this list. Thanks to all for your lovely words. AK On 6/20/06 2:25 AM, "Alan Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Here is a note to Fluxlist from Alison. Hannah arrives today (or tomorrow) > perhaps I can get direct questions to her too. She may not have time to > answer but I'll ask..anyone? > > Ladles and Jellyspoons, All is on Noel's: > > > > -Messaggio Originale- > > Da: Alison Knowles > > A: alan bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Data invio: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:09:33 -0400 > > Oggetto: Fw: Madame Hulot sez > > > > Coming in from my longtime home in New York I arrived in Venice just in > > time to have an evening with Emmett Williams and Ann Noel. We had an > > endless night of long talk and tall drinks and his health though frail > > is better than any of my friends of his vintage. Salute Emmett and Ann > > Noel who are off to do her diaries in Venice with Francesco Conz. > > > > The first event at the museo Fortuny was not possible without a friend > > Alan Bowman whom I located on the rolldeck at the Foundation Emily > > Harvey and seemed to remember having met in New York. Everyone wants > > to help and is very kind here but some actually do put the proverbial > > shoulder to the wheel and do it. That is Alan. We are very labor > > compatible and with wit and knowledge of the terrain (Venice) he has > > been indispensible. We plan to work together again. He actually rolls > > along over and under it all and comes out smiling, so I call him > > Always Bowling and he calls me with equal appropriateness, Owl and > > Sundried. > > > > The performance went well with two of my own works: Loose Pages which > > papers the body in flax and crackles when walking, Onion Skin Song > > which turns a sandwich of onion skins in seran wrap into musical > > notation (played with toys, bean turners). We used the shadows on the > > crumbling lovely walls to play from, but then also the onion skin > > sandwich itself(which we created live on the floor) we could turn and > > use as well. > > > > The concert concluded with three Vintage Fluxus works full of > > significance but with no specific meaning: a Dick Higgins Constellation > > (three of them with audience participation), Shoes of Your Choice (with > > much audience participation) and Ay-O's Rainbow ( three performers > > blowing bubbles while I lept about bursting with pins). For whatever > > reason Lucio Pozzi said this made him weep! It was lovely with bubbles > > floating about in marble halls. The concert ended with Bob Watts Trace > > for Orchestra. We burned the Barber of Seville at the music stand. This > > is a fine piece. > > > > The next day I left for the Villa Buttafava with Giovanni Orsini to put > > up an installation in the Villa and get out of Venice for three days. > > Putting instruments and artifacts, stones and beans plus his miracle > > fabric luminex into an old window with a plexi backing which we then > > hung on the wall. This installatain and in fact all I am doing here has > > the title Time Samples. Let's keep it simple as Robert (filliou) would > > say. > > > > Signor Orsini is of a very old family. In fact his ancestor Felix > > invented the "Orsin". this bomb relieved the world of Napoleon 111! > > > > Now, back in Venice, Always Bowling and I have just the Exhbition Time > > Samples ahead next week. we have lizards here, ants a'plenty and now > > mosquitoes. We try to be friendly with these creatures, we are, > > afterall the intruders. > > > > Nice to talk to the Fluxlist again. > > > > Onward > > > > Alison (akijan) > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh Odin's Underpants its a B(owman)LOG > > http://bowmansramblings.blogspot.com/ > > > > Visit the Freeformfreakout Organisation Online: > > http://www.freeformfreakoutorganisation.net >
Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles
How lovely it sounds! I'll try to pretend my mosquitos are the Italian variety. AK On 6/20/06 2:25 AM, "Alan Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Here is a note to Fluxlist from Alison. Hannah arrives today (or tomorrow) > perhaps I can get direct questions to her too. She may not have time to > answer but I'll ask..anyone? > > Ladles and Jellyspoons, All is on Noel's: > > > > -Messaggio Originale- > > Da: Alison Knowles > > A: alan bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Data invio: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:09:33 -0400 > > Oggetto: Fw: Madame Hulot sez > > > > Coming in from my longtime home in New York I arrived in Venice just in > > time to have an evening with Emmett Williams and Ann Noel. We had an > > endless night of long talk and tall drinks and his health though frail > > is better than any of my friends of his vintage. Salute Emmett and Ann > > Noel who are off to do her diaries in Venice with Francesco Conz. > > > > The first event at the museo Fortuny was not possible without a friend > > Alan Bowman whom I located on the rolldeck at the Foundation Emily > > Harvey and seemed to remember having met in New York. Everyone wants > > to help and is very kind here but some actually do put the proverbial > > shoulder to the wheel and do it. That is Alan. We are very labor > > compatible and with wit and knowledge of the terrain (Venice) he has > > been indispensible. We plan to work together again. He actually rolls > > along over and under it all and comes out smiling, so I call him > > Always Bowling and he calls me with equal appropriateness, Owl and > > Sundried. > > > > The performance went well with two of my own works: Loose Pages which > > papers the body in flax and crackles when walking, Onion Skin Song > > which turns a sandwich of onion skins in seran wrap into musical > > notation (played with toys, bean turners). We used the shadows on the > > crumbling lovely walls to play from, but then also the onion skin > > sandwich itself(which we created live on the floor) we could turn and > > use as well. > > > > The concert concluded with three Vintage Fluxus works full of > > significance but with no specific meaning: a Dick Higgins Constellation > > (three of them with audience participation), Shoes of Your Choice (with > > much audience participation) and Ay-O's Rainbow ( three performers > > blowing bubbles while I lept about bursting with pins). For whatever > > reason Lucio Pozzi said this made him weep! It was lovely with bubbles > > floating about in marble halls. The concert ended with Bob Watts Trace > > for Orchestra. We burned the Barber of Seville at the music stand. This > > is a fine piece. > > > > The next day I left for the Villa Buttafava with Giovanni Orsini to put > > up an installation in the Villa and get out of Venice for three days. > > Putting instruments and artifacts, stones and beans plus his miracle > > fabric luminex into an old window with a plexi backing which we then > > hung on the wall. This installatain and in fact all I am doing here has > > the title Time Samples. Let's keep it simple as Robert (filliou) would > > say. > > > > Signor Orsini is of a very old family. In fact his ancestor Felix > > invented the "Orsin". this bomb relieved the world of Napoleon 111! > > > > Now, back in Venice, Always Bowling and I have just the Exhbition Time > > Samples ahead next week. we have lizards here, ants a'plenty and now > > mosquitoes. We try to be friendly with these creatures, we are, > > afterall the intruders. > > > > Nice to talk to the Fluxlist again. > > > > Onward > > > > Alison (akijan) > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh Odin's Underpants its a B(owman)LOG > > http://bowmansramblings.blogspot.com/ > > > > Visit the Freeformfreakout Organisation Online: > > http://www.freeformfreakoutorganisation.net >
FLUXLIST: Fw: Madame Hulot sez - A Message from Alison Knowles
Dear all, Here is a note to Fluxlist from Alison. Hannah arrives today (or tomorrow) perhaps I can get direct questions to her too. She may not have time to answer but I'll ask..anyone? Ladles and Jellyspoons, All is on Noel's: -Messaggio Originale- Da: Alison Knowles A: alan bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Data invio: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:09:33 -0400 Oggetto: Fw: Madame Hulot sez Coming in from my longtime home in New York I arrived in Venice just in time to have an evening with Emmett Williams and Ann Noel. We had an endless night of long talk and tall drinks and his health though frail is better than any of my friends of his vintage. Salute Emmett and Ann Noel who are off to do her diaries in Venice with Francesco Conz. The first event at the museo Fortuny was not possible without a friend Alan Bowman whom I located on the rolldeck at the Foundation Emily Harvey and seemed to remember having met in New York. Everyone wants to help and is very kind here but some actually do put the proverbial shoulder to the wheel and do it. That is Alan. We are very labor compatible and with wit and knowledge of the terrain (Venice) he has been indispensible. We plan to work together again. He actually rolls along over and under it all and comes out smiling, so I call him Always Bowling and he calls me with equal appropriateness, Owl and Sundried. The performance went well with two of my own works: Loose Pages which papers the body in flax and crackles when walking, Onion Skin Song which turns a sandwich of onion skins in seran wrap into musical notation (played with toys, bean turners). We used the shadows on the crumbling lovely walls to play from, but then also the onion skin sandwich itself(which we created live on the floor) we could turn and use as well. The concert concluded with three Vintage Fluxus works full of significance but with no specific meaning: a Dick Higgins Constellation (three of them with audience participation), Shoes of Your Choice (with much audience participation) and Ay-O's Rainbow ( three performers blowing bubbles while I lept about bursting with pins). For whatever reason Lucio Pozzi said this made him weep! It was lovely with bubbles floating about in marble halls. The concert ended with Bob Watts Trace for Orchestra. We burned the Barber of Seville at the music stand. This is a fine piece. The next day I left for the Villa Buttafava with Giovanni Orsini to put up an installation in the Villa and get out of Venice for three days. Putting instruments and artifacts, stones and beans plus his miracle fabric luminex into an old window with a plexi backing which we then hung on the wall. This installatain and in fact all I am doing here has the title Time Samples. Let's keep it simple as Robert (filliou) would say. Signor Orsini is of a very old family. In fact his ancestor Felix invented the "Orsin". this bomb relieved the world of Napoleon 111! Now, back in Venice, Always Bowling and I have just the Exhbition Time Samples ahead next week. we have lizards here, ants a'plenty and now mosquitoes. We try to be friendly with these creatures, we are, afterall the intruders. Nice to talk to the Fluxlist again. Onward Alison (akijan) Oh Odin's Underpants its a B(owman)LOG http://bowmansramblings.blogspot.com/ Visit the Freeformfreakout Organisation Online: http://www.freeformfreakoutorganisation.net
