Re: Documentation finished

2004-07-01 Thread Simon Pepping
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 02:04:30PM -0700, Glen Mazza wrote:
> On second thought, I would hold off on this; I just
> noticed you copywrited the document under your name;
> hence it would probably be improper to include the
> current FOP system documentation from Keiron/Kelly or
> other former/current committers.

That is not a problem. I never publish anything without a copyright
holder. If it goes to FOP CVS and other contributions are merged, then
the copyright holder is just changed, like with source code.

Regards, Simon

-- 
Simon Pepping
home page: http://www.leverkruid.nl



Re: Documentation finished

2004-06-30 Thread Glen Mazza
--- Simon Pepping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 02:31:27PM -0700, Glen Mazza
> wrote:
> > Before doing so, it would probably be good if you
> > could look at our System design pages
> > (http://xml.apache.org/fop/design/index.html), if
> you
> > haven't already, and add to your document anything
> > from them that is still relevant and useful but
> > missing from your document.
> 
> I have read them but I have not checked whether I
> have included
> everything that is relevant. As I replied to Clay, I
> now want to take
> a break from this work, and try to do some coding. I
> will take your
> suggestion up later.
>  

On second thought, I would hold off on this; I just
noticed you copywrited the document under your name;
hence it would probably be improper to include the
current FOP system documentation from Keiron/Kelly or
other former/current committers.

Glen



Re: Documentation finished

2004-06-30 Thread Simon Pepping
On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 02:31:27PM -0700, Glen Mazza wrote:
> Before doing so, it would probably be good if you
> could look at our System design pages
> (http://xml.apache.org/fop/design/index.html), if you
> haven't already, and add to your document anything
> from them that is still relevant and useful but
> missing from your document.

I have read them but I have not checked whether I have included
everything that is relevant. As I replied to Clay, I now want to take
a break from this work, and try to do some coding. I will take your
suggestion up later.
 
> That way, when we add your document to our website, we
> can rid of the system design pages.  (Most of them are
> obsolete with the changing architecture anyway.)  That
> way, we will just have one official Docbook-based
> document to maintain.

Much of it is still remarkably relevant, esp. regarding FO trees and
Layout system.

Regards, Simon

-- 
Simon Pepping
home page: http://www.leverkruid.nl



Re: Documentation finished

2004-06-30 Thread Simon Pepping
Hi Clay,

On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 11:54:10AM -0700, Clay Leeds wrote:
> Looks pretty good. As you indicated, there are a few areas to be 
> improved (e.g., 'TO BE IMPROVED" and 'no data' sections), and some 

I spent quite some time to this documentation. The chapter on
properties took quite a bit more work than I expected. Now I want to
take a break. I will look at those passages later.

> issues with formatting (I think they're related to the 
> text-align='justify' setting--perhaps the document would read better 
> with default (i.e., 'left') justification?), but by and large this 


I suppose you refer to the section titles like
'LineLayoutManager.getNextBreakPoss'. I noticed that these can be
mended using hyphenate="false", but it is hard to specify that through
DocBook. I think I will change those titles, and set text-align="left"
for the section titles. Otherwise I am quite pleased with the
justification.
 
> looks like it will be a valuable addition to the FOP arsenal! One other 
> addition I'd like to see is that the fo:region-before include the 
> Chapter '#' in addition to the Title.

I will see if I can customize the DocBook style sheets to do
that. There are a few other things that may benefit from
customization.

Regards, Simon

-- 
Simon Pepping
home page: http://www.leverkruid.nl



Re: Documentation finished

2004-06-28 Thread Glen Mazza
Great, this makes for an excellent system design
document that we can refine over time.  I'm also happy
you have it done in Docbook.  We're doing it right the
first time that way.

I'd like to see it incorporated, in Docbook format, on
our site.  Tapestry has already managed Forrest and
Docbook together
(http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry/doc.html).

Before doing so, it would probably be good if you
could look at our System design pages
(http://xml.apache.org/fop/design/index.html), if you
haven't already, and add to your document anything
from them that is still relevant and useful but
missing from your document.

That way, when we add your document to our website, we
can rid of the system design pages.  (Most of them are
obsolete with the changing architecture anyway.)  That
way, we will just have one official Docbook-based
document to maintain.

Thanks,
Glen


--- Simon Pepping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I finished my documentation of the FOP architecture
> and code. Well,
> more or less; this is version 0.9. Maybe I'll add a
> short introduction
> or some such. See
> http://www.leverkruid.nl/FOP/index.html.
> 
> How can this be contributed to the FOP website? The
> documentation
> consists of a number of Docbook 4.2 XML files. Could
> this be part of
> the wiki? Or could it be in CVS?
> 
> Regards, Simon
> 
> -- 
> Simon Pepping
> home page: http://www.leverkruid.nl
> 
> 



Re: Documentation finished

2004-06-28 Thread Clay Leeds
On Jun 28, 2004, at 11:25 AM, Simon Pepping wrote:
Hi,
I finished my documentation of the FOP architecture and code. Well,
more or less; this is version 0.9. Maybe I'll add a short introduction
or some such. See http://www.leverkruid.nl/FOP/index.html.
Looks pretty good. As you indicated, there are a few areas to be 
improved (e.g., 'TO BE IMPROVED" and 'no data' sections), and some 
issues with formatting (I think they're related to the 
text-align='justify' setting--perhaps the document would read better 
with default (i.e., 'left') justification?), but by and large this 
looks like it will be a valuable addition to the FOP arsenal! One other 
addition I'd like to see is that the fo:region-before include the 
Chapter '#' in addition to the Title.

How can this be contributed to the FOP website? The documentation
consists of a number of Docbook 4.2 XML files. Could this be part of
the wiki? Or could it be in CVS?
I would think this owuld be of interest to some of the more advanced 
fop-users (particularly those interested in customizing via Java and/or 
embedding). As such, perhaps there might be a place for its inclusion 
in a "Docs" tab or something?

Regards, Simon
--
Simon Pepping
home page: http://www.leverkruid.nl

Web Maestro Clay


Documentation finished

2004-06-28 Thread Simon Pepping
Hi,

I finished my documentation of the FOP architecture and code. Well,
more or less; this is version 0.9. Maybe I'll add a short introduction
or some such. See http://www.leverkruid.nl/FOP/index.html.

How can this be contributed to the FOP website? The documentation
consists of a number of Docbook 4.2 XML files. Could this be part of
the wiki? Or could it be in CVS?

Regards, Simon

-- 
Simon Pepping
home page: http://www.leverkruid.nl