Re: AW: FO to RTF
Hi Peter, >. . . > The feasibility of an XSLT transform would > be greatly influenced by the complexity of the mappings of properties > into RTF structures. Yes, and in order to support the various "flavors" of RTF one has to take into account a number of (mostly dirty) tricks, which is probably easier in java. Not to mention images which usually need to be processed to be included in the RTF output. > If the inheritance model of XSLFO had no ready > parallel in RTF, that set of transformations would be a nightmare, I > imagine. There is some form of inheritance but we haven't been able to use it much in jfor - the lack of a clear structure in RTF (or our lack of understanding of it) makes it hard to take advantage of these features. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: FO to RTF
Bertrand, Thanks for clarifying that. The feasibility of an XSLT transform would be greatly influenced by the complexity of the mappings of properties into RTF structures. If the inheritance model of XSLFO had no ready parallel in RTF, that set of transformations would be a nightmare, I imagine. Peter Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Peter, > > >>I tentatively suggested using XSLT to generate RTF a little while ago, >>but I had no idea whether it was feasible. The main question would seem >>to be: is RTF a text-only format or a binary format? Can anyone answer >>that one for us? > > > AFAIK, everything in RTF can be expressed with text-only characters, and it > would certainly be possible to convert XSL-FO to RTF using XSLT. > > Our choice to use java for the jfor converter was based on better > availability of programming and debugging tools. -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: FO to RTF
Hi Peter, > I tentatively suggested using XSLT to generate RTF a little while ago, > but I had no idea whether it was feasible. The main question would seem > to be: is RTF a text-only format or a binary format? Can anyone answer > that one for us? AFAIK, everything in RTF can be expressed with text-only characters, and it would certainly be possible to convert XSL-FO to RTF using XSLT. Our choice to use java for the jfor converter was based on better availability of programming and debugging tools. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: FO to RTF
Peter B. West wrote: > I tentatively suggested using XSLT to generate RTF a little while ago, > but I had no idea whether it was feasible. The main question would seem > to be: is RTF a text-only format or a binary format? Can anyone answer > that one for us? I believe it's feasible, I even heard some people acomplished proprietary-xml2rtf transformation using xslt, but not in generic way and not using xsl-fo. Probably property refinement and shortcut resolution can be a little problematic though. -- Oleg Tkachenko Multiconn International, Israel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: AW: FO to RTF
Peter B. West wrote: <- Start -> I tentatively suggested using XSLT to generate RTF a little while ago, but I had no idea whether it was feasible. The main question would seem to be: is RTF a text-only format or a binary format? Can anyone answer that one for us? <- End -> I am no expert on RTF, but by opening a few, it appears to be a text-only format. However, I did see some examples of graphics being embedded in the files using 7-bit characters. Handling this would certainly seem to be outside the scope of XSLT. Victor Mote (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Enterprise Outfitters (www.outfitr.com) 2025 Eddington Way Colorado Springs, Colorado 80916 Voice 719-622-0650, Fax 720-293-0044 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: FO to RTF
Hansuli, I tentatively suggested using XSLT to generate RTF a little while ago, but I had no idea whether it was feasible. The main question would seem to be: is RTF a text-only format or a binary format? Can anyone answer that one for us? Peter J.U. Anderegg wrote: > Document formats can be layered very roughly like this: > > 1. Structured documents: marked up, tagged CONTENT - document elements like > "heading", "index entry" and even "customer address" in a specific > application: > - presentation, pagination controlled by style sheets/macros, perhaps > depending on output device/target > - examples: HTML, Word with templates > > 2. Document formats controlling pagination > - examples: WordPad, XSL:FO > > 3. Device dependent, paginated output streams > - examples: PCL, PostScript > > An other view is: revisable vs. final formats > > RTF at layer 1) and 2): a text generator outputs RTF. A transform from XML > data can be implemented with XSLT. A conversion from XSL:FO might be > realized at layer 2), but probably fail because of incompatible > concepts/details. > > RTF is the format of yesterday: better generate MicroSoft Office XML or Open > Office XML. > ___ > > PDF Java Viewer: who can do much better than Adobe? If no Acrobat Reader is > available, output PostScript and use GhostView instead of AWT. -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://powerup.com.au/~pbwest "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
