Re: Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
Can someone tell me where I can purchase some fonts to use with Fop, or what exact product from Adobe I should purchase? Thanks a lot. Jay Get your own 800 number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, Jay Chiu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I come to the same question as Peter B. West posted 06/2004. I am converting html reports to pdf reports and needs the basic fonts that IE and netscape suport. I do not mind to purchase the fonts, if it is not too expensive. Peter and Paul, did you find out some solution to get some high-quality fonts? Can some font gurus tell me how to get some fonts for FOP? The FOP Font FAQ page has two links to Adboe web, however I do not have the permission to view the pages. And I am not sure which Adode product is good for FOP. Thank you for your help. Jay Get your own 800 number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
Some thoughts: - You can probably use the fonts installed on your system without having to purchase a separate license. You simply have to be careful about embedding the font because some fonts don't allow that (TTFReader will tell you). Also, look into the license text of the respective fonts so you don't do anything wrong. If you plan to redistribute these fonts it gets more complicated. - You can assume that the fonts used by IE and Netscape are high-quality enough for your task. - If you want to buy fonts, you can go to any online font shop (ex. http://www.myfonts.com or http://www.linotype.com). If possible, I usually look for producer names such as Linotype, Adobe or Bitstream. - In principle, all TrueType or Type1 fonts you can purchase should work with FOP. If one doesn't work, then our font support is not perfect and should be improved. On 22.12.2004 02:53:32 Jay Chiu wrote: Can someone tell me where I can purchase some fonts to use with Fop, or what exact product from Adobe I should purchase? On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, Jay Chiu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I come to the same question as Peter B. West posted 06/2004. I am converting html reports to pdf reports and needs the basic fonts that IE and netscape suport. I do not mind to purchase the fonts, if it is not too expensive. Peter and Paul, did you find out some solution to get some high-quality fonts? Can some font gurus tell me how to get some fonts for FOP? The FOP Font FAQ page has two links to Adboe web, however I do not have the permission to view the pages. And I am not sure which Adode product is good for FOP. Thank you for your help. Jeremias Maerki - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
I come to the same question as Peter B. West posted 06/2004. I am converting html reports to pdf reports and needs the basic fonts that IE and netscape suport. I do not mind to purchase the fonts, if it is not too expensive. Peter and Paul, did you find out some solution to get some high-quality fonts? Can some font gurus tell me how to get some fonts for FOP? The FOP Font FAQ page has two links to Adboe web, however I do not have the permission to view the pages. And I am not sure which Adode product is good for FOP. Thank you for your help. Jay Get your own 800 number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
Paul Tremblay wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 12:45:00AM +1000, Peter B. West wrote: What did you download, and where did you get the pfm fonts? I have just downloaded the unix distribution, and it includes only afm and pfb fonts. http://sourceforge.net/projects/gs-fonts/ I am guessing that this site converted the fonts with the fonts2pfb tool. I used this tool on my distribution and got the same type of premature end of file result. In short, I don't think I'm working with a good set of fonts. Where did you download your distribution? My home distribution has pfa instead of pfb. Paul, The files I am talking about come from the links on the AMS page - http://www.ams.org/tex/type1-fonts.html I have downloaded the unix and the pc font sets. The unix set comes with only pfb and afm files, in the pfb and afm directories respectively. The pc download contains afm and fonts directories. The afm directory contains afm files, and the fonts directory contains pfb files and the pfmfiles directory. In the latter directory are the pfm files. The afm files are text files, while the pfms are binary. Try using the pfm files from the pc distribution with PFMReader. General questions to font gurus. Can we generate font metrics for FOP directly from the AFM files? Do AFM and PFM files contain equivalent information? Peter -- Peter B. West http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 02:44:39PM +1000, Peter B. West wrote: Paul, The files I am talking about come from the links on the AMS page - http://www.ams.org/tex/type1-fonts.html I have downloaded the unix and the pc font sets. The unix set comes with only pfb and afm files, in the pfb and afm directories respectively. The pc download contains afm and fonts directories. The afm directory contains afm files, and the fonts directory contains pfb files and the pfmfiles directory. In the latter directory are the pfm files. The afm files are text files, while the pfms are binary. Try using the pfm files from the pc distribution with PFMReader. General questions to font gurus. Can we generate font metrics for FOP directly from the AFM files? Do AFM and PFM files contain equivalent information? Thanks for the feedback. I get the same error working with these files as I do when working with the * /pub/tex/psfonts/cm fonts. I first convert the fonts to pfm with a utilty called afm2pfm. I get a segmentation error. I then convert the pfm file to an xml metrics file using the java tool. I get no errors. But when I use the font to produce a PDF file, I get a full page break after each block of text. It is unfortunate that the ghostscript and the commputer modern fonts have something non-standard with them. They are nice fonts and the creators went through a lot of effort to produce them. As I said before, I think we need more standardization with fonts. I believe a font could be expressed as an XML file, which could be validated. This XML file could be used to then produce afm or pfb or whatever type of fonts a particular application needs. As it stands right now, fonts were not developed according to a standard, as xsl-fo was. This results in the mess I have been struggling with the past few days, and a lot of wasted effort on the part of developers and users. It is a good question on whether AFM contain the same information as PFM files. From what I've read, it seems that the AFM is the ascii equivelent of the binary PFM. Paul -- *Paul Tremblay * [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 07:13:36PM +0200, J.Pietschmann wrote: Ghostscript and KDE come with completely free fonts, and I've seen TTF conversion for them. I'm just too lazy right know to search through their distributions for the actual font names and fedd this into Google. I als vaguely remember that the Lucid TTF included in Sun's JDK (perhaps Linux only) doesn't have license restrictions. I have these fonts on my system. But I don't see any font.pfb file. Without that file, I don't believe I can use the font with FOP. I hope I am wrong here, because if so, then I do have a set of high-quality fonts right on my own computer. Thanks Paul -- *Paul Tremblay * [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
Paul Tremblay wrote: On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 07:13:36PM +0200, J.Pietschmann wrote: Ghostscript and KDE come with completely free fonts, and I've seen TTF conversion for them. I'm just too lazy right know to search through their distributions for the actual font names and fedd this into Google. I als vaguely remember that the Lucid TTF included in Sun's JDK (perhaps Linux only) doesn't have license restrictions. I have these fonts on my system. But I don't see any font.pfb file. Without that file, I don't believe I can use the font with FOP. I hope I am wrong here, because if so, then I do have a set of high-quality fonts right on my own computer. From the AMS web site http://www.ams.org/tex/type1-fonts.html quote These fonts are available in Macintosh and PFB (binary Type 1) outline formats. Users requiring the fonts in PFA (ASCII Type 1) form should convert them with the aid of one of the following tools, available from the Comprehensive TeX Archive Network (CTAN): * fonts/utilities/ps2mf/pfb2pfa * fonts/utilities/ps2pk/ps2pk15/misc/pfb2pfa * systems/msdos/4alltex/diskp1/pfb2pfa.zip The fonts have exactly the same metrics as the bitmap versions of the fonts generated by METAFONT. Therefore, the standard TFM files (available from CTAN in fonts/cm/tfm and fonts/amsfonts/tfm) should be used for TeX applications. /quote Peter -- Peter B. West http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 12:31:36PM +1000, Peter B. West wrote: The American Mathematical Society has the copyright on the Computer Modern fonts. http://www.ams.org/tex/type1-fonts.html These are available in Type 1 format. In addition, there are AMS-developed fonts for mathematics. Peter Okay, I downloaded these fonts and found both an afm and a pfb file. I need pfm rather than afm files. So I used a converter called afm2pfm. When I run this utility, I get: Warning on line 1, ignoring Warning on line 2, ignoring ... Warning: setting lower case ascent from AFM Ascender Warning: setting upper case descent from AFM Descender Warning: calculating average width from all characters Segmentation fault I do get a resulting pfm file, which I can then use to generate an XML file. However, when I then use this file with FOP, FOP puts a page-break after each block element. I also notice that with cmb10, I get only a limited range of characters, up to unicode values 128 (ASCII). thanks Paul -- *Paul Tremblay * [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
Paul Tremblay wrote: On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 12:31:36PM +1000, Peter B. West wrote: The American Mathematical Society has the copyright on the Computer Modern fonts. http://www.ams.org/tex/type1-fonts.html These are available in Type 1 format. In addition, there are AMS-developed fonts for mathematics. Peter Okay, I downloaded these fonts and found both an afm and a pfb file. I need pfm rather than afm files. So I used a converter called afm2pfm. When I run this utility, I get: Warning on line 1, ignoring Warning on line 2, ignoring ... Warning: setting lower case ascent from AFM Ascender Warning: setting upper case descent from AFM Descender Warning: calculating average width from all characters Segmentation fault I do get a resulting pfm file, which I can then use to generate an XML file. However, when I then use this file with FOP, FOP puts a page-break after each block element. I also notice that with cmb10, I get only a limited range of characters, up to unicode values 128 (ASCII). Looks like a question for one of our fonts specialists. Jeremias? What range of characters is available with the cmb10 you had on your system? Peter -- Peter B. West http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
Paul Tremblay wrote: I have these fonts on my system. But I don't see any font.pfb file. Well, I think I've seen ready-to-use TTF for the fonts coming with GhostScript elsewhere, I just don't remember the Google query to get them. J.Pietschmann - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
Paul Tremblay wrote: On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 03:54:39PM +1000, Peter B. West wrote: quote These fonts are available in Macintosh and PFB (binary Type 1) outline formats. Users requiring the fonts in PFA (ASCII Type 1) form should convert them with the aid of one of the following tools, available from the Comprehensive TeX Archive Network (CTAN): Oh yes, right you are! I just downloaded the fonts, and I am finding a font.afm file, a font.pfm file, and a font.pfb file. Everything should be there to create a font-metrics file and to embed the font. But when I type: java org.apache.fop.fonts.apps.PFMReader a010013l.pfm out.xml I get this error message: [INFO] PFM Reader v1.1a [INFO] [INFO] Reading a010013l.pfm... [INFO] [INFO] 31015 kerning pairs [ERROR] Error while building XML font metrics file java.io.EOFException at java.io.DataInputStream.readShort(DataInputStream.java:323) at org.apache.fop.fonts.type1.PFMInputStream.readShort(PFMInputStream.java:97) at org.apache.fop.fonts.type1.PFMFile.loadKernPairs(PFMFile.java:203) at org.apache.fop.fonts.type1.PFMFile.loadExtension(PFMFile.java:167) at org.apache.fop.fonts.type1.PFMFile.load(PFMFile.java:114) at org.apache.fop.fonts.apps.PFMReader.loadPFM(PFMReader.java:211) at org.apache.fop.fonts.apps.PFMReader.main(PFMReader.java:180) On a linux sysem, if I do: cat a010013l.pfm I get a strange result. The file is outputted to the terminal, but an premature end of file seems to be reached. What did you download, and where did you get the pfm fonts? I have just downloaded the unix distribution, and it includes only afm and pfb fonts. Peter -- Peter B. West http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 12:45:00AM +1000, Peter B. West wrote: What did you download, and where did you get the pfm fonts? I have just downloaded the unix distribution, and it includes only afm and pfb fonts. http://sourceforge.net/projects/gs-fonts/ I am guessing that this site converted the fonts with the fonts2pfb tool. I used this tool on my distribution and got the same type of premature end of file result. In short, I don't think I'm working with a good set of fonts. Where did you download your distribution? My home distribution has pfa instead of pfb. Paul -- *Paul Tremblay * [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 02:16:59AM -0400, Paul Tremblay wrote: I also notice that with cmb10, I get only a limited range of characters, up to unicode values 128 (ASCII). cmb10 is one of the original Computer Modern fonts of Donald Knuth. All these fonts contain 128 characters. On a X Window system there are several tools to view the font table, e.g. gfontview. Regards, Simon -- Simon Pepping home page: http://www.leverkruid.nl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
J.Pietschmann wrote: Paul Tremblay wrote: So what exactly is a font? I thought a font was more like a data file. Well, a program is a data file, interpreted by the processor. You know, there's always a level where the distinction between programs and data is blurry. In terms of copyright, the distinction doesn't matter all that much anyway. I thought the rendering of the font was done by the program. Also, what exactly is hinting? Is that not some technique to make a font look better? It is a technique which makes scaled down glyphs look better. Remember, TrueType fonts are used to generate glyph bitmaps for arbitrary glyph sizes. Hints are used to change the glyph locally to minimize artifacts caused by mapping the shape to pixels. For example take the upper case letter T. If the stroke thickness gets down to the range of a single pixel, the joint of the two lines of the T might start looking more black and somewhat like a knot. A hint causes the renderer to lighten the zone up. If a font is a set of data (as opposed to a program), it seems in the interest of the open source community to develop some type of open font format. Why? The TTF and OTF formats are already open. The problem are the software patents related to the bytecode interpreter which requires font *rendering programs* to ask for a license. See also http://www.freetype.org/patents.html [snip search for free fonts] Ghostscript and KDE come with completely free fonts, and I've seen TTF conversion for them. I'm just too lazy right know to search through their distributions for the actual font names and fedd this into Google. I als vaguely remember that the Lucid TTF included in Sun's JDK (perhaps Linux only) doesn't have license restrictions. Just realised that I have been unsubscribed from fop-user for some time thanks to the flood of spam and spurious mail delivery error messages. Grumble, grumble... The American Mathematical Society has the copyright on the Computer Modern fonts. http://www.ams.org/tex/type1-fonts.html These are available in Type 1 format. In addition, there are AMS-developed fonts for mathematics. Peter -- Peter B. West http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 06:04:32PM +0100, Mike Brodbelt wrote: I don't know the details for PostScript fonts, but TrueType fonts are considered as small programs which, when executed with the correct font engine, draw the correct glyphs on the screen. While the glyph shapes themselves can't be copyrighted, the program that is a ttf file (or other type of font) can be, and the hinting alogrigthms are subject to some patents in the US - see http://www.freetype.org/patents.html. As PostScript is a language, I suspect the program is copyrighted, but you may not have patent problems there. snip Yes, you can do this. You may still have to avoid infringing the offending patents though :-(. So what exactly is a font? I thought a font was more like a data file. I thought the rendering of the font was done by the program. Also, what exactly is hinting? Is that not some technique to make a font look better? To be fair to Adobe, they took those 500 year old glyph shapes, and turned them into a program that reproduces them on your screen. As you point out yourself, this takes a fair amount of time, effort and skill, so I think claiming copyright over their implementation is perfectly reasonable. I find the people who patent incremental improvements to a system, that use those patents as a roadblock to prevent the development of competing implementations to be far more unpleasant. This is however not a commentary on Apple - I do not know how they have behaved with regard to these patents, nor do I know how significant the things they have patents on are. I see your point about Adobe. But they seem to charge extravagant fees. It costs around $170 just to buy a fount like Bookman. Even to have as little at 5 fonts for use would become too expensive except for professionals. AFAIK, it doesn't - that license applied only to that set of fonts. The fact that they were enthusiastically adopted by Linux users, and now are no longer available from Microsoft's own website suggests that MS rather wish they hadn't let them out. I doubt we'll see any more with that license. That could be, though I just downloaded from MS's own site a package of true type fonts that inlucded book antiqua and several other nice fonts. I didn't see any restrictions on the page, and I don't think MS would let you download them if they put liscensing restrictions on them. But I could be wrong. There's no indication of license at that site, but it looks a bit suspect to me Yes, and this site looks suspicious to me as well. I don't think I can just dowload the fonts and provide them on sourceforge. If a font is a set of data (as opposed to a program), it seems in the interest of the open source community to develop some type of open font format. Perhaps a font could be expressed as an XML file, and it could then be processed to create different types of fonts, such as PS or TT. Or perhaps I am way off here. I noticed that the Verdana font was released under the open source liscense: web address: http://www.gnome.org/fonts/ But the company released it an a true-type form, which seems to come with some liscensing restrictions. The inventor of the text processor TeX created some very nice fonts--but these are in a format that FOP can't use. So it seems like we need some type of open foundry. I don't think such a foundry will pop up anytime soon. The artist types who would be best suited for creating fonts are probably not inclined towards computers. Paul -- *Paul Tremblay * [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
Paul Tremblay wrote: So what exactly is a font? I thought a font was more like a data file. Well, a program is a data file, interpreted by the processor. You know, there's always a level where the distinction between programs and data is blurry. In terms of copyright, the distinction doesn't matter all that much anyway. I thought the rendering of the font was done by the program. Also, what exactly is hinting? Is that not some technique to make a font look better? It is a technique which makes scaled down glyphs look better. Remember, TrueType fonts are used to generate glyph bitmaps for arbitrary glyph sizes. Hints are used to change the glyph locally to minimize artifacts caused by mapping the shape to pixels. For example take the upper case letter T. If the stroke thickness gets down to the range of a single pixel, the joint of the two lines of the T might start looking more black and somewhat like a knot. A hint causes the renderer to lighten the zone up. If a font is a set of data (as opposed to a program), it seems in the interest of the open source community to develop some type of open font format. Why? The TTF and OTF formats are already open. The problem are the software patents related to the bytecode interpreter which requires font *rendering programs* to ask for a license. See also http://www.freetype.org/patents.html [snip search for free fonts] Ghostscript and KDE come with completely free fonts, and I've seen TTF conversion for them. I'm just too lazy right know to search through their distributions for the actual font names and fedd this into Google. I als vaguely remember that the Lucid TTF included in Sun's JDK (perhaps Linux only) doesn't have license restrictions. J.Pietschmann - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
Paul Tremblay wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 04:46:20AM +0200, Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: Sure! Happens all the time... Concerning Chris' question about the legal issues, that's a whole different story (--the details of which I'm not too familiar with) I been doing a lot of googling. It turns out that you can't copyright a font. The US gov't is too afraid that such a copyright would lead to someone copyrighting the alphabet itself. What you can copyright is anything that creates a font, which in this case is a Bookman.pfm or Bookman.pfb file. I don't know the details for PostScript fonts, but TrueType fonts are considered as small programs which, when executed with the correct font engine, draw the correct glyphs on the screen. While the glyph shapes themselves can't be copyrighted, the program that is a ttf file (or other type of font) can be, and the hinting alogrigthms are subject to some patents in the US - see http://www.freetype.org/patents.html. As PostScript is a language, I suspect the program is copyrighted, but you may not have patent problems there. However, I could open up some high quality software, scan in the shape of all the Bookman fonts, twiddle with the shapes until they are exactly right, and realease my fonts with no copyright restrictions. Yes, you can do this. You may still have to avoid infringing the offending patents though :-(. It turns out that doing this is pretty difficult. Still, it is a worthwhile endeavor for someone who is skilled at creating fonts to create knockoffs of the high-quality fonts and realese them under GNU. After all, many of the really nice fonts, such as Garamond, were invented by people 500 years ago, so why should Adobe get copyright fees? To be fair to Adobe, they took those 500 year old glyph shapes, and turned them into a program that reproduces them on your screen. As you point out yourself, this takes a fair amount of time, effort and skill, so I think claiming copyright over their implementation is perfectly reasonable. I find the people who patent incremental improvements to a system, that use those patents as a roadblock to prevent the development of competing implementations to be far more unpleasant. This is however not a commentary on Apple - I do not know how they have behaved with regard to these patents, nor do I know how significant the things they have patents on are. MS itself has realeased the standard web fonts under a pretty non-restrictive (though by no means open source) liscence. You can download these fonts from http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/ I don't know if the same non-restrictive MS lisence also applies to fonts beyond these web fonts. AFAIK, it doesn't - that license applied only to that set of fonts. The fact that they were enthusiastically adopted by Linux users, and now are no longer available from Microsoft's own website suggests that MS rather wish they hadn't let them out. I doubt we'll see any more with that license. I also discovered a webpage that has all the truetype versions of virtually every professional font out there (I'm talking about fonts for laying out a publication, not decorative fonts): http://www.clipserver.de/Fonts/C.htm There's no indication of license at that site, but it looks a bit suspect to me Mike. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 04:46:20AM +0200, Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: Sure! Happens all the time... Concerning Chris' question about the legal issues, that's a whole different story (--the details of which I'm not too familiar with) I been doing a lot of googling. It turns out that you can't copyright a font. The US gov't is too afraid that such a copyright would lead to someone copyrighting the alphabet itself. What you can copyright is anything that creates a font, which in this case is a Bookman.pfm or Bookman.pfb file. However, I could open up some high quality software, scan in the shape of all the Bookman fonts, twiddle with the shapes until they are exactly right, and realease my fonts with no copyright restrictions. It turns out that doing this is pretty difficult. Still, it is a worthwhile endeavor for someone who is skilled at creating fonts to create knockoffs of the high-quality fonts and realese them under GNU. After all, many of the really nice fonts, such as Garamond, were invented by people 500 years ago, so why should Adobe get copyright fees? (See http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/18/1519217.shtml?tid=109 for a fruther discussion.) MS itself has realeased the standard web fonts under a pretty non-restrictive (though by no means open source) liscence. You can download these fonts from http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/ I don't know if the same non-restrictive MS lisence also applies to fonts beyond these web fonts. I also discovered a webpage that has all the truetype versions of virtually every professional font out there (I'm talking about fonts for laying out a publication, not decorative fonts): http://www.clipserver.de/Fonts/C.htm However, though you can download the fonts without paying, copyright restrictions probably apply. So I can use these fonts with FOP for publishing a thesis, but not for any real commercial work. And of course, these fonts are true-type rather than PS. None-the-less, FOP seems to produce nice output with true-type fonts. It is unfortunate that Knuth's fonts aren't usable for FOP. Paul -- *Paul Tremblay * [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where to download high-quality fonts
Can't you just grab them out of the windows/fonts directory? Or am I talking out my clack? Chris. -Original Message- From: Paul Tremblay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2004 11:51 AM To: fop mailing list Subject: Where to download high-quality fonts I think I'm getting the hang of installing fonts in fop, but I can't find any site where I can download high-quality fonts. I think adobe Type 1 fonts are preferable? I would like to have some of the fonts I am use to, such as Bookman, New Century Schoolbook, etc. Can anyone point me to a site? Also, I really like the font that TeX uses. Is there anyway to make this font available to fop? Thanks. I have looked for the past 4 hours (including at the appropriate FAQ's) and finally decided that someone here might know of some advice right off. Paul -- *Paul Tremblay * [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to download high-quality fonts
On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 11:45:04AM +1000, Chris Warr wrote: Can't you just grab them out of the windows/fonts directory? Or am I talking out my clack? Can you? I have a linux box. My girlfriend has a Macintosh, which puts fonts in some type of suitcase. If you can just grab those high-quality fonts off the Windows system (and they are not copyrighted), then I just need to find someone with a Windows machine. Anyone every take a Windows font and use it in fop? Thanks Paul -- *Paul Tremblay * [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where to download high-quality fonts
Pretty sure that's how we got our Arial font in there, don't know about the legal issues though. -Original Message- From: Paul Tremblay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2004 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Where to download high-quality fonts On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 11:45:04AM +1000, Chris Warr wrote: Can't you just grab them out of the windows/fonts directory? Or am I talking out my clack? Can you? I have a linux box. My girlfriend has a Macintosh, which puts fonts in some type of suitcase. If you can just grab those high-quality fonts off the Windows system (and they are not copyrighted), then I just need to find someone with a Windows machine. Anyone every take a Windows font and use it in fop? Thanks Paul -- *Paul Tremblay * [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where to download high-quality fonts
-Original Message- From: Paul Tremblay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, snip / Anyone every take a Windows font and use it in fop? Sure! Happens all the time... Concerning Chris' question about the legal issues, that's a whole different story (--the details of which I'm not too familiar with) So you know what to do: take one of these nifty USB SmartDrives into the first office you run into, and copy the whole font library from a random computer... ;) Greetz, Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
