RE: different results with -print and -pdf

2006-06-01 Thread Rick Roen
Thank Jeremias,

Here is my setup:

FOP 0.92b
Java 1.5.0_6
XP Pro sp 2
Printer: HP officejet 6110xi 
Printer: Kyocera Mita KM-3035 copier/printer
Printer: MS Fax

Perhaps the easiest to reproduce is with the MS Fax which comes with XP.  I
still get the same offset on the top block (including the logo).

I don't think I can use Chris' suggestion since I don't have a postscript
printer.

I guess my fallback is to write the pdf to disk then open and print it from
within my program.

Do you see anything above that differs from your setup?

Rick

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From: Jeremias Maerki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:41 AM
To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Subject: Re: different results with -print and -pdf

Just verified with several printer drivers (HP LaserJet 4 PCL, Brother
HL-1250, HP LaserJet IIP PS) on Windows XP and I don't see any serious
displacements of the documents when using "-print". Not sure what's
wrong on your side. Try other printers or printer drivers. Otherwise,
and if Chris' work-arounds don't work for you, please state what
operating system you're on and what printer and printer driver you use.
The Java version will also be important.

On 01.06.2006 12:31:33 Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> While Chris is right that the -print output can never be 100% the same
> as from PDF or PS, a difference of 2cm rather sounds like a print margin
> problem. I haven't had time to look into this, yet, but I'm pretty sure
> it's that. Chris' work-arounds are certainly correct.
> 
> On 01.06.2006 12:22:59 Chris Bowditch wrote:
> > Rick Roen wrote:
> > 
> > > FOP 0.92b + Saxon 8
> > > 
> > > I'm getting different results with the attached files when I do the 
> > > following:
> > > 
> > > 1) FOP -xml test.xml -xsl test.xsl -pdf test.pdf
> > > 
> > > And
> > > 2) FOP -xml test.xml -xsl test.xsl -print
> > > 
> > > The first one produces a normal pdf which prints ok.
> > > 
> > > The second one sends the output directly to the printer, however the
top 
> > > block is offset up and to the left by about 2cm. The balance of the 
> > > pages print normally.
> > 
> > The reason for the difference between -pdf and -print is because FOP 
> > uses the AWT renderer when printing directly to the Printer. The output 
> > from AWT varies greatly depending on o/s and JDK version. If you need to

> > print a document then the recommended approach is to generate Postscript

> > using the PS Renderer (output will be identical to the PDF Renderer) and

> > pipe that directly to the printer using LPR or similar OS tool.
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > 


Jeremias Maerki


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Re: different results with -print and -pdf

2006-06-01 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Just verified with several printer drivers (HP LaserJet 4 PCL, Brother
HL-1250, HP LaserJet IIP PS) on Windows XP and I don't see any serious
displacements of the documents when using "-print". Not sure what's
wrong on your side. Try other printers or printer drivers. Otherwise,
and if Chris' work-arounds don't work for you, please state what
operating system you're on and what printer and printer driver you use.
The Java version will also be important.

On 01.06.2006 12:31:33 Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> While Chris is right that the -print output can never be 100% the same
> as from PDF or PS, a difference of 2cm rather sounds like a print margin
> problem. I haven't had time to look into this, yet, but I'm pretty sure
> it's that. Chris' work-arounds are certainly correct.
> 
> On 01.06.2006 12:22:59 Chris Bowditch wrote:
> > Rick Roen wrote:
> > 
> > > FOP 0.92b + Saxon 8
> > > 
> > > I’m getting different results with the attached files when I do the 
> > > following:
> > > 
> > > 1) FOP –xml test.xml –xsl test.xsl –pdf test.pdf
> > > 
> > > And
> > > 2) FOP –xml test.xml –xsl test.xsl –print
> > > 
> > > The first one produces a normal pdf which prints ok.
> > > 
> > > The second one sends the output directly to the printer, however the top 
> > > block is offset up and to the left by about 2cm. The balance of the 
> > > pages print normally.
> > 
> > The reason for the difference between -pdf and -print is because FOP 
> > uses the AWT renderer when printing directly to the Printer. The output 
> > from AWT varies greatly depending on o/s and JDK version. If you need to 
> > print a document then the recommended approach is to generate Postscript 
> > using the PS Renderer (output will be identical to the PDF Renderer) and 
> > pipe that directly to the printer using LPR or similar OS tool.
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > 


Jeremias Maerki


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Re: different results with -print and -pdf

2006-06-01 Thread Jeremias Maerki
While Chris is right that the -print output can never be 100% the same
as from PDF or PS, a difference of 2cm rather sounds like a print margin
problem. I haven't had time to look into this, yet, but I'm pretty sure
it's that. Chris' work-arounds are certainly correct.

On 01.06.2006 12:22:59 Chris Bowditch wrote:
> Rick Roen wrote:
> 
> > FOP 0.92b + Saxon 8
> > 
> > I’m getting different results with the attached files when I do the 
> > following:
> > 
> > 1) FOP –xml test.xml –xsl test.xsl –pdf test.pdf
> > 
> > And
> > 2) FOP –xml test.xml –xsl test.xsl –print
> > 
> > The first one produces a normal pdf which prints ok.
> > 
> > The second one sends the output directly to the printer, however the top 
> > block is offset up and to the left by about 2cm. The balance of the 
> > pages print normally.
> 
> The reason for the difference between -pdf and -print is because FOP 
> uses the AWT renderer when printing directly to the Printer. The output 
> from AWT varies greatly depending on o/s and JDK version. If you need to 
> print a document then the recommended approach is to generate Postscript 
> using the PS Renderer (output will be identical to the PDF Renderer) and 
> pipe that directly to the printer using LPR or similar OS tool.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 


Jeremias Maerki


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Re: different results with -print and -pdf

2006-06-01 Thread Chris Bowditch

Rick Roen wrote:


FOP 0.92b + Saxon 8

I’m getting different results with the attached files when I do the 
following:


1) FOP –xml test.xml –xsl test.xsl –pdf test.pdf

And
2) FOP –xml test.xml –xsl test.xsl –print

The first one produces a normal pdf which prints ok.

The second one sends the output directly to the printer, however the top 
block is offset up and to the left by about 2cm. The balance of the 
pages print normally.


The reason for the difference between -pdf and -print is because FOP 
uses the AWT renderer when printing directly to the Printer. The output 
from AWT varies greatly depending on o/s and JDK version. If you need to 
print a document then the recommended approach is to generate Postscript 
using the PS Renderer (output will be identical to the PDF Renderer) and 
pipe that directly to the printer using LPR or similar OS tool.


Chris





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