Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP
Hi Luis, If this can help you, I attach an AFP file that shows the content of a TIFF LZW in IOCA. Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr From: Luis Bernardo Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:54 PM To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: [?? Probable Spam] Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP The IOCA spec certainly allows that. I think that when a lot of the AFP code was written there were lingering doubts about the LZW patent and that may be the reason compression is not done. I will need to take a look. On 12/10/14, 4:07 PM, Christian Pestel wrote: Hi Luis, If the CMYK TIFFs image file is compressed (LZW), Fop decompress the data during image loading and convert datas in AFP IOCA resource with these IFD parameters - Image Encoding Parameter: Compression algorithm: No Compression - Image Encoding Parameter: Recording algorithm: RIDIC Do you think that it’s possible to compress again AFP data image ? and set IFD parameters to - Image Encoding Parameter: Compression algorithm: TIFF LZW - Image Encoding Parameter: Recording algorithm: RIDIC Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr From: Christian Pestel Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 6:00 PM To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP Yes ! It’s work very well ! I look forward to your patch Thanks a lot, Luis. Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr From: Luis Bernardo Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 5:31 PM To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP I see. I do have a patch for this, something that I fixed a while ago and never got around to commit (see attachment and check it is OK). I will try to have it applied tomorrow. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr wrote: Hi Luis, I join image, fo and afp files I use Fop Trunk version Fop.config : renderer mime=application/x-afp renderer-resolution300/renderer-resolution images mode=color cmyk=true native=false fs45=true jpeg allow-embedding=false bitmap-encoding-quality=1.0/ /images Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr From: Luis Bernardo Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:48 PM To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP Can you provide the tiff image and fop.xconf you use? On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr wrote: Hi, TIFF image with CMYK color space is not well rendered in AFP. I think that the native TIFF codec don’t implement that : xmlgraphics\image\codec\tiff\TIFFImage.java public TIFFImage(SeekableStream stream, TIFFDecodeParam param, int directory) ... default: // Other including CMYK, CIE L*a*b*, unknown. if (sampleSize % 8 == 0) { imageType = TYPE_GENERIC; } ... Is it possible to use a different codec that would cover this type of image like TwelveMonkeys imageio-tiff codec ? Thanks, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org S1LOGEDR.afp Description: application/afp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP
Hi Luis, If the CMYK TIFFs image file is compressed (LZW), Fop decompress the data during image loading and convert datas in AFP IOCA resource with these IFD parameters - Image Encoding Parameter: Compression algorithm: No Compression - Image Encoding Parameter: Recording algorithm: RIDIC Do you think that it’s possible to compress again AFP data image ? and set IFD parameters to - Image Encoding Parameter: Compression algorithm: TIFF LZW - Image Encoding Parameter: Recording algorithm: RIDIC Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr From: Christian Pestel Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 6:00 PM To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP Yes ! It’s work very well ! I look forward to your patch Thanks a lot, Luis. Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr From: Luis Bernardo Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 5:31 PM To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP I see. I do have a patch for this, something that I fixed a while ago and never got around to commit (see attachment and check it is OK). I will try to have it applied tomorrow. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr wrote: Hi Luis, I join image, fo and afp files I use Fop Trunk version Fop.config : renderer mime=application/x-afp renderer-resolution300/renderer-resolution images mode=color cmyk=true native=false fs45=true jpeg allow-embedding=false bitmap-encoding-quality=1.0/ /images Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr From: Luis Bernardo Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:48 PM To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP Can you provide the tiff image and fop.xconf you use? On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr wrote: Hi, TIFF image with CMYK color space is not well rendered in AFP. I think that the native TIFF codec don’t implement that : xmlgraphics\image\codec\tiff\TIFFImage.java public TIFFImage(SeekableStream stream, TIFFDecodeParam param, int directory) ... default: // Other including CMYK, CIE L*a*b*, unknown. if (sampleSize % 8 == 0) { imageType = TYPE_GENERIC; } ... Is it possible to use a different codec that would cover this type of image like TwelveMonkeys imageio-tiff codec ? Thanks, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP
The IOCA spec certainly allows that. I think that when a lot of the AFP code was written there were lingering doubts about the LZW patent and that may be the reason compression is not done. I will need to take a look. On 12/10/14, 4:07 PM, Christian Pestel wrote: Hi Luis, If the CMYK TIFFs image file is compressed (LZW), Fop decompress the data during image loading and convert datas in AFP IOCA resource with these IFD parameters - Image Encoding Parameter: Compression algorithm: No Compression - Image Encoding Parameter: Recording algorithm: RIDIC Do you think that it’s possible to compress again AFP data image ? and set IFD parameters to - Image Encoding Parameter: Compression algorithm: TIFF LZW - Image Encoding Parameter: Recording algorithm: RIDIC ** Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr mailto:cpes...@bdoc.com *From:* Christian Pestel mailto:christian.pes...@orange.fr *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 6:00 PM *To:* fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org mailto:fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org *Subject:* Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP Yes ! It’s work very well ! Sourire I look forward to your patch Thanks a lot, Luis. ** Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr mailto:cpes...@bdoc.com *From:* Luis Bernardo mailto:lmpmberna...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 5:31 PM *To:* fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org mailto:fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org *Subject:* Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP I see. I do have a patch for this, something that I fixed a while ago and never got around to commit (see attachment and check it is OK). I will try to have it applied tomorrow. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr mailto:christian.pes...@orange.fr wrote: Hi Luis, I join image, fo and afp files I use Fop Trunk version Fop.config : renderer mime=application/x-afp renderer-resolution300/renderer-resolution images mode=color cmyk=true native=false fs45=true jpeg allow-embedding=false bitmap-encoding-quality=1.0/ /images ** Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr mailto:cpes...@bdoc.com *From:* Luis Bernardo mailto:lmpmberna...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 3:48 PM *To:* fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org mailto:fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org *Subject:* Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP Can you provide the tiff image and fop.xconf you use? On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr mailto:christian.pes...@orange.fr wrote: Hi, TIFF image with CMYK color space is not well rendered in AFP. I think that the native TIFF codec don’t implement that : xmlgraphics\image\codec\tiff\TIFFImage.java public TIFFImage(SeekableStream stream, TIFFDecodeParam param, int directory) ... default: // Other including CMYK, CIE L*a*b*, unknown. if (sampleSize % 8 == 0) { imageType = TYPE_GENERIC; } ... Is it possible to use a different codec that would cover this type of image like TwelveMonkeys imageio-tiff codec ? Thanks, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr mailto:christian.pes...@orange.fr - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org mailto:fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org mailto:fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org mailto:fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org mailto:fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP
Try with trunk now. For your image you will also need the jai_imageio.jar for the colors to be right. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr wrote: Yes ! It’s work very well ! [image: Sourire] I look forward to your patch Thanks a lot, Luis. Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr cpes...@bdoc.com *From:* Luis Bernardo lmpmberna...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 5:31 PM *To:* fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org *Subject:* Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP I see. I do have a patch for this, something that I fixed a while ago and never got around to commit (see attachment and check it is OK). I will try to have it applied tomorrow. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr wrote: Hi Luis, I join image, fo and afp files I use Fop Trunk version Fop.config : renderer mime=application/x-afp renderer-resolution300/renderer-resolution images mode=color cmyk=true native=false fs45=true jpeg allow-embedding=false bitmap-encoding-quality=1.0/ /images Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr cpes...@bdoc.com *From:* Luis Bernardo lmpmberna...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 3:48 PM *To:* fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org *Subject:* Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP Can you provide the tiff image and fop.xconf you use? On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr wrote: Hi, TIFF image with CMYK color space is not well rendered in AFP. I think that the native TIFF codec don’t implement that : xmlgraphics\image\codec\tiff\TIFFImage.java public TIFFImage(SeekableStream stream, TIFFDecodeParam param, int directory) ... default: // Other including CMYK, CIE L*a*b*, unknown. if (sampleSize % 8 == 0) { imageType = TYPE_GENERIC; } ... Is it possible to use a different codec that would cover this type of image like TwelveMonkeys imageio-tiff codec ? Thanks, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP
Can you provide the tiff image and fop.xconf you use? On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr wrote: Hi, TIFF image with CMYK color space is not well rendered in AFP. I think that the native TIFF codec don’t implement that : xmlgraphics\image\codec\tiff\TIFFImage.java public TIFFImage(SeekableStream stream, TIFFDecodeParam param, int directory) ... default: // Other including CMYK, CIE L*a*b*, unknown. if (sampleSize % 8 == 0) { imageType = TYPE_GENERIC; } ... Is it possible to use a different codec that would cover this type of image like TwelveMonkeys imageio-tiff codec ? Thanks, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP
Yes ! It’s work very well ! I look forward to your patch Thanks a lot, Luis. Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr From: Luis Bernardo Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 5:31 PM To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP I see. I do have a patch for this, something that I fixed a while ago and never got around to commit (see attachment and check it is OK). I will try to have it applied tomorrow. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr wrote: Hi Luis, I join image, fo and afp files I use Fop Trunk version Fop.config : renderer mime=application/x-afp renderer-resolution300/renderer-resolution images mode=color cmyk=true native=false fs45=true jpeg allow-embedding=false bitmap-encoding-quality=1.0/ /images Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr From: Luis Bernardo Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:48 PM To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: TIFF CMYK image with AFP Can you provide the tiff image and fop.xconf you use? On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr wrote: Hi, TIFF image with CMYK color space is not well rendered in AFP. I think that the native TIFF codec don’t implement that : xmlgraphics\image\codec\tiff\TIFFImage.java public TIFFImage(SeekableStream stream, TIFFDecodeParam param, int directory) ... default: // Other including CMYK, CIE L*a*b*, unknown. if (sampleSize % 8 == 0) { imageType = TYPE_GENERIC; } ... Is it possible to use a different codec that would cover this type of image like TwelveMonkeys imageio-tiff codec ? Thanks, Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: Tiff cmyk
CMYK TIFF is currently only supported if the image itself is encoded as a DCT image (with is the same compression JPEG uses). Otherwise, FOP will process the image data wrongly, thinking it is RGB data. I suggest you convert your images into a CMYK JPEG images. That is probably the easiest work-around until one of us has time to do the image package redesign. On 10.01.2007 21:39:54 Kris Wolff wrote: Hi all, i searched the list a few hours by now, trying to get help on my tif problem and i can now import a tif saved in rgb color. But for print i need a cmyk tiff. The Problem is, that the cmyk is renderd with batik, why? for rgb fop takes teh right jimi... The result from the cmyk is just a black image! does anybody has imported a cmyk succsessfully? Please help! i am running mad! ven. Jeremias Maerki - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tiff cmyk
Hi Jeremias, now i am running into an error, that terminates the rendering: javax.xml.transform.TransformerException: java.lang.RuntimeException: TIFFImage16 at org.apache.xalan.templates.ElemLiteralResult.execute (ElemLiteralResult.java:725) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.executeChildTemplates (TransformerImpl.java:2339) at org.apache.xalan.templates.ElemLiteralResult.execute (ElemLiteralResult.java:710) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.executeChildTemplates (TransformerImpl.java:2339) at org.apache.xalan.templates.ElemLiteralResult.execute (ElemLiteralResult.java:710) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.executeChildTemplates (TransformerImpl.java:2339) at org.apache.xalan.templates.ElemLiteralResult.execute (ElemLiteralResult.java:710) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.executeChildTemplates (TransformerImpl.java:2339) at org.apache.xalan.templates.ElemLiteralResult.execute (ElemLiteralResult.java:710) at org.apache.xalan.templates.ElemApplyTemplates.transformSelectedNodes (ElemApplyTemplates.java:425) at org.apache.xalan.templates.ElemApplyTemplates.execute (ElemApplyTemplates.java:216) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.executeChildTemplates (TransformerImpl.java:2339) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.applyTemplateToNode (TransformerImpl.java:2160) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.transformNode (TransformerImpl.java:1213) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.transform (TransformerImpl.java:668) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.transform (TransformerImpl.java:1129) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.transform (TransformerImpl.java:1107) I saved the tif with Photoshop CS 2 as JPEG Compression, best Quality. the image is CMYK/8Bit. I don't know if this is a following error, or an other mistake of mine. thank you in advanced, ven On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:06 PM, Jeremias Maerki wrote: CMYK TIFF is currently only supported if the image itself is encoded as a DCT image (with is the same compression JPEG uses). Otherwise, FOP will process the image data wrongly, thinking it is RGB data. I suggest you convert your images into a CMYK JPEG images. That is probably the easiest work-around until one of us has time to do the image package redesign. On 10.01.2007 21:39:54 Kris Wolff wrote: Hi all, i searched the list a few hours by now, trying to get help on my tif problem and i can now import a tif saved in rgb color. But for print i need a cmyk tiff. The Problem is, that the cmyk is renderd with batik, why? for rgb fop takes teh right jimi... The result from the cmyk is just a black image! does anybody has imported a cmyk succsessfully? Please help! i am running mad! ven. Jeremias Maerki - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tiff cmyk
Hmm, TIFFImage16 is one of those error messages that should actually be resolved into an understandable error message. Looking at the source code, it means as much as: I don't support CMYK images with DCT compression. I that is the TIFF codec in XML Graphics Commons. Unfortunately, the image adapter for that codec currently seems to decode the whole image to determine the image size and can therefore later not use the raw image data. I thought that used to work at some point. But then the image package really is a mess. I really have no other option for you than using JPEG instead of TIFF for now if you absolutely need CMYK support. On 10.01.2007 23:00:52 Kris Wolff wrote: Ok, of course, here is the full error: (long list) snip/ java.lang.RuntimeException: TIFFImage16 at org.apache.xmlgraphics.image.codec.tiff.TIFFImage.init (TIFFImage.java:579) at org.apache.fop.image.TIFFImage.decodeImage(TIFFImage.java: 72) at org.apache.fop.image.XmlGraphicsCommonsImage.loadDimensions (XmlGraphicsCommonsImage.java:78) at org.apache.fop.image.AbstractFopImage.load (AbstractFopImage.java:160) at org.apache.fop.fo.flow.ExternalGraphic.bind (ExternalGraphic.java:73) snip/ Jeremias Maerki - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tiff cmyk
Hi Jeremias, i try to follow you in the code... hm, lost at some point. I definetly need cmyk, so i start to begin looking for some jai examples rendering tiff2jpeg without loosing the color theme. All i get by now is some ugly image in compleate diferent colors so i think other api, other site, maybe other list :-) for understanding you and get deeper into fop-development (i really like it, but i am comming from business-logic-applications, short from plain numbers on the screen :-) and lots of web-services (lots of text and numbers, too) so i see a chance for me getting into image- things here, trying to understand what is going wrong in fop. So, you say: the image class decompress the image to find out the size and than can not process in the next steps because it expected jpeg- compression but get raw data, am i right? ven. On Jan 10, 2007, at 11:21 PM, Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hmm, TIFFImage16 is one of those error messages that should actually be resolved into an understandable error message. Looking at the source code, it means as much as: I don't support CMYK images with DCT compression. I that is the TIFF codec in XML Graphics Commons. Unfortunately, the image adapter for that codec currently seems to decode the whole image to determine the image size and can therefore later not use the raw image data. I thought that used to work at some point. But then the image package really is a mess. I really have no other option for you than using JPEG instead of TIFF for now if you absolutely need CMYK support. On 10.01.2007 23:00:52 Kris Wolff wrote: Ok, of course, here is the full error: (long list) snip/ java.lang.RuntimeException: TIFFImage16 at org.apache.xmlgraphics.image.codec.tiff.TIFFImage.init (TIFFImage.java:579) at org.apache.fop.image.TIFFImage.decodeImage (TIFFImage.java: 72) at org.apache.fop.image.XmlGraphicsCommonsImage.loadDimensions (XmlGraphicsCommonsImage.java:78) at org.apache.fop.image.AbstractFopImage.load (AbstractFopImage.java:160) at org.apache.fop.fo.flow.ExternalGraphic.bind (ExternalGraphic.java:73) snip/ Jeremias Maerki - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tiff cmyk
I don't have much time right now to explain the current plans but take a look at: org.apache.fop.render.pdf.FopPDFImage org.apache.fop.render.image.TIFFImage org.apache.fop.render.image.XmlGraphicsCommonsImage (parent of TIFFImage) Some notes for the upcoming redesign of the image package: http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/ImageSupport But I don't really understand why you can't save your image as a CMYK TIFF and use that. On 10.01.2007 23:35:17 Kris Wolff wrote: Hi Jeremias, i try to follow you in the code... hm, lost at some point. I definetly need cmyk, so i start to begin looking for some jai examples rendering tiff2jpeg without loosing the color theme. All i get by now is some ugly image in compleate diferent colors so i think other api, other site, maybe other list :-) for understanding you and get deeper into fop-development (i really like it, but i am comming from business-logic-applications, short from plain numbers on the screen :-) and lots of web-services (lots of text and numbers, too) so i see a chance for me getting into image- things here, trying to understand what is going wrong in fop. So, you say: the image class decompress the image to find out the size and than can not process in the next steps because it expected jpeg- compression but get raw data, am i right? ven. On Jan 10, 2007, at 11:21 PM, Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hmm, TIFFImage16 is one of those error messages that should actually be resolved into an understandable error message. Looking at the source code, it means as much as: I don't support CMYK images with DCT compression. I that is the TIFF codec in XML Graphics Commons. Unfortunately, the image adapter for that codec currently seems to decode the whole image to determine the image size and can therefore later not use the raw image data. I thought that used to work at some point. But then the image package really is a mess. I really have no other option for you than using JPEG instead of TIFF for now if you absolutely need CMYK support. On 10.01.2007 23:00:52 Kris Wolff wrote: Ok, of course, here is the full error: (long list) snip/ java.lang.RuntimeException: TIFFImage16 at org.apache.xmlgraphics.image.codec.tiff.TIFFImage.init (TIFFImage.java:579) at org.apache.fop.image.TIFFImage.decodeImage (TIFFImage.java: 72) at org.apache.fop.image.XmlGraphicsCommonsImage.loadDimensions (XmlGraphicsCommonsImage.java:78) at org.apache.fop.image.AbstractFopImage.load (AbstractFopImage.java:160) at org.apache.fop.fo.flow.ExternalGraphic.bind (ExternalGraphic.java:73) snip/ Jeremias Maerki - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]