Re: [foreman-dev] Proposal: Move Foreman Jenkins Jobs to foreman-ci repository

2017-11-09 Thread Eric D Helms
On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden <
ew...@kohlvanwijngaarden.nl> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 09, 2017 at 02:37:10PM +, Greg Sutcliffe wrote:
>
>> On 09/11/17 14:25, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote:
>>
>>> If a separate repository, would it not be as simple as adding a git
 clone?

>>>
>>> Possibly, I don't have that much insight into the entire deployment
>>> flow. Hence my preference of making small changes since our backlog is
>>> big enough already. Of course if you're willing to take it on then be my
>>> guest.
>>>
>>
>> Currently it's a Jenkins Job [1] that notices a change in the upstream
>> repo, and deploys it to the puppetmaster. Should be trivial enough to
>> make the changes you want there - adding a git submodule to the infra
>> repo might "just work", looking at it.
>>
>> [1] http://ci.theforeman.org/job/deploy_puppet/
>>
>
> A git submodule might work - we wouldn't get automatic updates thus
> doubling the work though. If you mean adding a separate repository to the
> config then that could work well.


Another option is we just move this out of puppet all together and a have a
job that runs JJB whenever the repository updates to update the jobs
(job-ception).


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Re: [foreman-dev] Proposal: Move Foreman Jenkins Jobs to foreman-ci repository

2017-11-09 Thread Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden

On Thu, Nov 09, 2017 at 02:37:10PM +, Greg Sutcliffe wrote:

On 09/11/17 14:25, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote:

If a separate repository, would it not be as simple as adding a git
clone?


Possibly, I don't have that much insight into the entire deployment
flow. Hence my preference of making small changes since our backlog is
big enough already. Of course if you're willing to take it on then be my
guest.


Currently it's a Jenkins Job [1] that notices a change in the upstream
repo, and deploys it to the puppetmaster. Should be trivial enough to
make the changes you want there - adding a git submodule to the infra
repo might "just work", looking at it.

[1] http://ci.theforeman.org/job/deploy_puppet/


A git submodule might work - we wouldn't get automatic updates thus 
doubling the work though. If you mean adding a separate repository to 
the config then that could work well.


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Re: [foreman-dev] Proposal: Move Foreman Jenkins Jobs to foreman-ci repository

2017-11-09 Thread Greg Sutcliffe
On 09/11/17 14:25, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote:
>> If a separate repository, would it not be as simple as adding a git
>> clone?
> 
> Possibly, I don't have that much insight into the entire deployment
> flow. Hence my preference of making small changes since our backlog is
> big enough already. Of course if you're willing to take it on then be my
> guest.

Currently it's a Jenkins Job [1] that notices a change in the upstream
repo, and deploys it to the puppetmaster. Should be trivial enough to
make the changes you want there - adding a git submodule to the infra
repo might "just work", looking at it.

[1] http://ci.theforeman.org/job/deploy_puppet/


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Re: [foreman-dev] Proposal: Move Foreman Jenkins Jobs to foreman-ci repository

2017-11-09 Thread Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden

On Thu, Nov 09, 2017 at 09:04:55AM -0500, Eric D Helms wrote:

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden <
ew...@kohlvanwijngaarden.nl> wrote:


On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:35:04AM -0500, Eric D Helms wrote:


All,

I brought this idea up in a separate thread, but want to formalize it into
it's own direct proposal. As of today, the Jenkins Job (JJB)
configurations
live buried inside the foreman-infra repository. I believe this makes them
hard to discover [1] and awkward to work with being inside a puppet
module.
My proposal is:

1) Create foreman-ci github repository
2) Move everything under [1] to foreman-ci
3) Update the jenkins_job_builder puppet_module to clone this new
repository

Further, I think this will allow CI focused work to happen and be separate
from the maintenance of our community infrastructure.



+1 to making it more visible.

I'm not sure whether a separate repo or a top level directory in
foreman-infra is best. One benefit of a single repository is that they're
somewhat tightly linked: the JJB version and the templates we use.



I don't know when you say template here. What template?


Sorry, that was a weird thing in my head: it's how we distribute the 
jenkins jobs. Besides the plain text files we also have some slave 
configs[1] and they're templated. I don't know if those should be moved 
too or translated into pure JJB files but it's part of how Jenkins is 
configured.


[1]: 
https://github.com/theforeman/foreman-infra/tree/master/puppet/modules/slave/templates


Would a we be able to move the directory to the top level and have a
symlink at the puppet module level? If that'd work I'd prefer that as a
first step since we wouldn't have to modify our current deployment model.



If a separate repository, would it not be as simple as adding a git clone?


Possibly, I don't have that much insight into the entire deployment 
flow. Hence my preference of making small changes since our backlog is 
big enough already. Of course if you're willing to take it on then be my 
guest.


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Re: [foreman-dev] Proposal: Move Foreman Jenkins Jobs to foreman-ci repository

2017-11-09 Thread Eric D Helms
On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden <
ew...@kohlvanwijngaarden.nl> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:35:04AM -0500, Eric D Helms wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> I brought this idea up in a separate thread, but want to formalize it into
>> it's own direct proposal. As of today, the Jenkins Job (JJB)
>> configurations
>> live buried inside the foreman-infra repository. I believe this makes them
>> hard to discover [1] and awkward to work with being inside a puppet
>> module.
>> My proposal is:
>>
>> 1) Create foreman-ci github repository
>> 2) Move everything under [1] to foreman-ci
>> 3) Update the jenkins_job_builder puppet_module to clone this new
>> repository
>>
>> Further, I think this will allow CI focused work to happen and be separate
>> from the maintenance of our community infrastructure.
>>
>
> +1 to making it more visible.
>
> I'm not sure whether a separate repo or a top level directory in
> foreman-infra is best. One benefit of a single repository is that they're
> somewhat tightly linked: the JJB version and the templates we use.
>

I don't know when you say template here. What template?


>
> Would a we be able to move the directory to the top level and have a
> symlink at the puppet module level? If that'd work I'd prefer that as a
> first step since we wouldn't have to modify our current deployment model.


If a separate repository, would it not be as simple as adding a git clone?


>
>
> Eric
>>
>> [1]
>> https://github.com/theforeman/foreman-infra/tree/master/pupp
>> et/modules/jenkins_job_builder/files/theforeman.org
>>
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Re: [foreman-dev] Proposal: Move Foreman Jenkins Jobs to foreman-ci repository

2017-11-09 Thread Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden

On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:35:04AM -0500, Eric D Helms wrote:

All,

I brought this idea up in a separate thread, but want to formalize it into
it's own direct proposal. As of today, the Jenkins Job (JJB) configurations
live buried inside the foreman-infra repository. I believe this makes them
hard to discover [1] and awkward to work with being inside a puppet module.
My proposal is:

1) Create foreman-ci github repository
2) Move everything under [1] to foreman-ci
3) Update the jenkins_job_builder puppet_module to clone this new
repository

Further, I think this will allow CI focused work to happen and be separate
from the maintenance of our community infrastructure.


+1 to making it more visible.

I'm not sure whether a separate repo or a top level directory in 
foreman-infra is best. One benefit of a single repository is that 
they're somewhat tightly linked: the JJB version and the templates we 
use.


Would a we be able to move the directory to the top level and have a 
symlink at the puppet module level? If that'd work I'd prefer that as a 
first step since we wouldn't have to modify our current deployment 
model.



Eric

[1]
https://github.com/theforeman/foreman-infra/tree/master/puppet/modules/jenkins_job_builder/files/theforeman.org


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Re: [foreman-dev] Proposal: Move Foreman Jenkins Jobs to foreman-ci repository

2017-11-09 Thread Patrick Creech
On Wed, 2017-11-08 at 07:35 -0500, Eric D Helms wrote:
> All,
> 
> I brought this idea up in a separate thread, but want to formalize it into 
> it's own direct
> proposal. As of today, the Jenkins Job (JJB) configurations live buried 
> inside the foreman-infra
> repository. I believe this makes them hard to discover [1] and awkward to 
> work with being inside a
> puppet module. My proposal is:
> 
>  1) Create foreman-ci github repository
>  2) Move everything under [1] to foreman-ci
>  3) Update the jenkins_job_builder puppet_module to clone this new repository
> 
> Further, I think this will allow CI focused work to happen and be separate 
> from the maintenance of
> our community infrastructure.
> 
> 
> Eric
> 
> [1] 
> https://github.com/theforeman/foreman-infra/tree/master/puppet/modules/jenkins_job_builder/fil
> es/theforeman.org
> 

We do something similar in upstream Pulp today with our jekins job templates, 
and it has worked out
really well for us.  It sounds like a good idea.

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Re: [foreman-dev] Proposal: Move Foreman Jenkins Jobs to foreman-ci repository

2017-11-09 Thread Evgeni Golov
+1

It makes it better discoverable for new users/contributors and also
makes the repo easier to consume by others (SatelliteQE uses it).

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Ohad Levy  wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Greg Sutcliffe 
> wrote:
>>
>> On 08/11/17 12:35, Eric D Helms wrote:
>> > All,
>> >
>> > I brought this idea up in a separate thread, but want to formalize it
>> > into
>> > it's own direct proposal. As of today, the Jenkins Job (JJB)
>> > configurations
>> > live buried inside the foreman-infra repository. I believe this makes
>> > them
>> > hard to discover [1] and awkward to work with being inside a puppet
>> > module.
>> > My proposal is:
>> >
>> >  1) Create foreman-ci github repository
>> >  2) Move everything under [1] to foreman-ci
>> >  3) Update the jenkins_job_builder puppet_module to clone this new
>> > repository
>> >
>> > Further, I think this will allow CI focused work to happen and be
>> > separate
>> > from the maintenance of our community infrastructure.
>>
>> +1 from me, its very hard to discover today.
>
>
> +1 anything that makes it easier for a developer to understand the CI infra
> better is a plus :)
>>
>>
>> Greg
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Re: [foreman-dev] Proposal: Move Foreman Jenkins Jobs to foreman-ci repository

2017-11-08 Thread Ohad Levy
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Greg Sutcliffe 
wrote:

> On 08/11/17 12:35, Eric D Helms wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I brought this idea up in a separate thread, but want to formalize it
> into
> > it's own direct proposal. As of today, the Jenkins Job (JJB)
> configurations
> > live buried inside the foreman-infra repository. I believe this makes
> them
> > hard to discover [1] and awkward to work with being inside a puppet
> module.
> > My proposal is:
> >
> >  1) Create foreman-ci github repository
> >  2) Move everything under [1] to foreman-ci
> >  3) Update the jenkins_job_builder puppet_module to clone this new
> > repository
> >
> > Further, I think this will allow CI focused work to happen and be
> separate
> > from the maintenance of our community infrastructure.
>
> +1 from me, its very hard to discover today.
>

+1 anything that makes it easier for a developer to understand the CI infra
better is a plus :)

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Re: [foreman-dev] Proposal: Move Foreman Jenkins Jobs to foreman-ci repository

2017-11-08 Thread Greg Sutcliffe
On 08/11/17 12:35, Eric D Helms wrote:
> All,
> 
> I brought this idea up in a separate thread, but want to formalize it into
> it's own direct proposal. As of today, the Jenkins Job (JJB) configurations
> live buried inside the foreman-infra repository. I believe this makes them
> hard to discover [1] and awkward to work with being inside a puppet module.
> My proposal is:
> 
>  1) Create foreman-ci github repository
>  2) Move everything under [1] to foreman-ci
>  3) Update the jenkins_job_builder puppet_module to clone this new
> repository
> 
> Further, I think this will allow CI focused work to happen and be separate
> from the maintenance of our community infrastructure.

+1 from me, its very hard to discover today.

Greg

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[foreman-dev] Proposal: Move Foreman Jenkins Jobs to foreman-ci repository

2017-11-08 Thread Eric D Helms
All,

I brought this idea up in a separate thread, but want to formalize it into
it's own direct proposal. As of today, the Jenkins Job (JJB) configurations
live buried inside the foreman-infra repository. I believe this makes them
hard to discover [1] and awkward to work with being inside a puppet module.
My proposal is:

 1) Create foreman-ci github repository
 2) Move everything under [1] to foreman-ci
 3) Update the jenkins_job_builder puppet_module to clone this new
repository

Further, I think this will allow CI focused work to happen and be separate
from the maintenance of our community infrastructure.


Eric

[1]
https://github.com/theforeman/foreman-infra/tree/master/puppet/modules/jenkins_job_builder/files/theforeman.org

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