Re: [fossil-users] more on side-by-side diffs

2011-10-18 Thread Higham, Paul
Instead of 'unified', how about 'zippered' or 'interlaced'?

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[mailto:fossil-users-boun...@lists.fossil-scm.org] On Behalf Of Jan Danielsson
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 13:27
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Subject: Re: [fossil-users] more on side-by-side diffs

On 10/16/11 21:34, Dmitry Chestnykh wrote:
   I'm still searching for better terminology than 1-pane and
 2-pane diffs. Any opinions?

   Condensed vs Expanded?

   Terse vs Verbose?

 i like side-by-side, but i don't have a suggestion for 1-pane diffs.

 Maybe tall and wide diffs?

 Side-by-side diffs and Unified diffs?

   Perhaps I'm nitpicking too much, but I was looking for a single word
rather than side-by-side in the UI (in the code I don't mind). And the
reason I haven't gone with unified is because I thought that it may
confuse users to think it refers specifically to the unified format
(which I suppose it doesn't really; they just happen to coincide).

   Though to be honest, my first though was to use side-by-side and
unified. In what may become a case of coming to a closed circle,
perhaps I should simply go with it.

   Ugh -- epic bikeshedding. I'll just go with it.

   Or is anyone directly opposed to using Side-by-side (with hyphens)
and Unified? Speak now, or rename it yourself later. :)


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Re: [fossil-users] TH1 - make 1d list from 2d list?

2011-06-13 Thread Higham, Paul
If this was a full-blown Tcl then you could do 

dict keys [concat {*}$twoDlist]

but I suspect that TH1 has neither dictionaries nor the {*} operator.
How about

set oneDlist 
foreach pair $twoDlist {lappend oneDlist [lindex $pair 0]}

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Subject: [fossil-users] TH1 - make 1d list from 2d list?

I want to create a one dimensional list from a two dimensional source
list. Here is what I have done:

set twoDlist{
   {UN United Nations}
   {EU European Union}
   {BRICS Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa}
}

set oneDlist 
for {set x 0} {$x  [llength $twoDlist]} {set x [expr {$x + 1}]} {
   set oneDlist $oneDlist [lindex [lindex $twoDlist $x] 0]
}

This works (the resulting list contains {UN EU BRICS}), but it seems
clunky. Is there are more elegant way to do this?

Cheers,
Erlend
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Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming...

2011-03-02 Thread Higham, Paul
I like the name precisely because of its connotations.  Fossil records
are kept in perpetuity, are affected neither by bad weather, fashion nor
by bad management; nothing but the act of an angry god will change them.

But the connotation has to be applied to the right thing.  The intended
connotation is in regard to the way that Fossil treats the data that is
placed under its care, rather than the application itself.

Like rumours, connotations require little effort to generate and it
would be impossible to be consistent with all of them.  Hopefully, as it
was with the iPad, the inappropriate ones will just fade away.

And as for the logo, it tells me that quality products will outlast
those of the insurance companies :)

Paul Higham
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Found
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 10:31
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Subject: Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming...

Unfortunately, the train has already left the station.  Fossil has been
self-hosting since 2007 and parts of the code have been around for a
year 
or so prior to that.  Fossil might seem like it is in early stages of
development to you, since you have only just now discovered it, but it
has
been around for quite some time now.  3.62 years - which is like half
an 
eon in internet time, right?

I understand this. Actually 3..4 years are not so big time for so great
peace of software.
I can remember how was renamed Firefox browser - you know it was Phoenix
at the begining,
then it becomes Firebird and now it is Firefox. It is true - the reasons
was different, but...
I don't think the site have to be fancy and bright. I only pointed the
negative associations
that the name can induce in peoples minds.
Anyway. It is of course your project and your decision. I will use it
widely in the future,
simply because it is exactly what I need for my projects.


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From: Richard Hipp (d...@sqlite.org)
Subject: Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming...
Date: 2.3.2011 18:01:48

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:54 AM, John Found johnfo...@evrocom.net
wrote:

 Hi all.
 First mail to this mail list. Please forgive my audacity - fossil is 
 simply gorgeous just like SQLite, but it need to be renamed as soon
as 
 possible. :) My point is simple. IMHO, the name Fossil provokes
some 
 unpleasant associations and have not very propriate connotations.
 The same can be said for Fossil Logo - it is dark and have veri grim 
look. 
 Just compare it with SQLite name and logo (btw - old logo and site of
 sqlite was better,now they are heavy :) )
 Also look at other similar systems - Bazaar - makes allusion with 
 crowds of developers. Mercurial - something very agive, quick, 
versatile. 
 The name is important for the future of the every project. And if the

 name have to be changed - it is good to be made in earlier stages of 
development. 

Unfortunately, the train has already left the station.  Fossil has been
self-hosting since 2007 and parts of the code have been around for a
year 
or so prior to that.  Fossil might seem like it is in early stages of
development to you, since you have only just now discovered it, but it
has
been around for quite some time now.  3.62 years - which is like half
an 
eon in internet time, right?



 So, mr.Hipp, please think a little about this arguments.

 Best Regards

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Re: [fossil-users] switch statement

2011-02-17 Thread Higham, Paul
Did you try [switch $status { . . . ?

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Subject: [fossil-users] switch statement

Does TH1 implement switch or am I using it wrong?

The TCL (yes, I know TH1 is not TCL, only derived from it) docs at
http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.5/TclCmd/switch.htm say the switch returns
the result of evaluating the body associated with the matching
pattern, so that is what I tried:

set status_choices [ switch status {
  New  {expr { New Verified Deferred Closed }}
  Verified {expr { Verified Fixed Deferred }}
  Fixed{expr { Fixed Tested Deferred }}
  Tested   {expr { Tested Review Deferred }}
  Review   {expr { Review Closed Deferred }}
  Deferred {expr { Deferred Review Closed }}
  Closed   {expr { Closed Review Deferred }}
  defaull  {expr { Review }}
} ]

However, I get a no such command: switch error.
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[fossil-users] Character entity references

2010-03-31 Thread Higham, Paul
Is it possible in Fossil wiki markup to add special characters from the
W3C character entity references?  It would be quite useful to have these
in documentation.  For example, in html, a rightwards double arrow is
specified as either rArr or #8658, but the wiki page displays both of
these as just the text code with no rendering.

 

Is there wiki magic for this?

 

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Re: [fossil-users] Deleting a wiki page?

2010-03-18 Thread Higham, Paul
This is the best of both worlds, and an elegant solution to boot.
Thanx!

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Subject: Re: [fossil-users] Deleting a wiki page?


On Mar 17, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Jeremy Cowgar wrote:

 Is there a way to delete a wiki page? Maybe by issuing SQL?



If you update to the latest experimental Fossil (specifically version
http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/012d5e4f23 
  or later) and do fossil all rebuild then if you change the content  
of a wiki page to be empty, that wiki page will not show up on the  
list of wiki pages (unless you select the All option, in which case  
the wiki page name will be within s../s).

Is that sufficient for deleting a wiki page?


D. Richard Hipp
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Re: [fossil-users] Deleting a wiki page?

2010-03-17 Thread Higham, Paul
I have been wondering that myself and I would also like to know if it is
possible to rename a wiki page.

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Subject: [fossil-users] Deleting a wiki page?

Is there a way to delete a wiki page? Maybe by issuing SQL?

Jeremy

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Re: [fossil-users] Deleting a wiki page?

2010-03-17 Thread Higham, Paul
As a wiki grows, policies for its organization are going to change as
some are tried out and found wanting and others are improved and become
law.  The beauty of having both a wiki and embedded documentation is
that the wiki can hold artifacts that are ill-formed in terms of concept
and structure and are being put out there for others to review, get
inspired by, correct, evolve, comment on, try to understand, clarify and
yes - discard.  The informality is its strength.  Embedded
documentation, on the other hand, should probably be committed after as
much thought has gone into it as the code or analysis that it is
documenting.  The evolution history of embedded documentation is
probably more instructive and should thus makes sense for it to be more
visible in the project's design history.

It is perhaps still useful for posterity to keep in the repository all
informal things pertaining to a project also, even those things that
fall into the category of what-was-I-thinking, because it is a fact that
at one time you were actually thinking it.  However, wouldn't it be nice
to be able to archive all the scrumpled-up pieces of recycled paper and
all those envelopes that have scribbles on the back rather than leaving
them on the desktop - forever?

One way of using the wiki, which I find quite effective, is to write
thoughts on design problems as they come to mind in the hopes of
organizing later.  The wiki notes then become sources for more formal,
design documentation.  As retained content migrates to embedded
documentation, I would at least like to move the obsolete text out of
the way, if only because a wiki page may say one thing and the embedded
documentation something entirely different.  The way it is now my wiki
is in danger of starting to look like my garage, with 10-year old
National Geographic magazines growing mould . . .

I agree with Jeremy that shunning is a pretty awkward way to clean up
the 'desktop', but if that is the only way . . .

Paul Higham
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Subject: Re: [fossil-users] Deleting a wiki page?

On 3/17/2010 6:44 PM, Michael Barrow wrote:
 There is no such thing as a non-active Wiki page per se. You could 
 remove links to said page if you want to keep it around and then edit 
 the page to say Hey -- we're just keeping this for archival purposes.

 Otherwise, 'shun' is the tool to use. I've done in on some of my 
 installations for pages that I really wanted to go away.

If this is the case then I would say the Fossil wiki has to be changed 
to be a usable wiki. No one is going to create a perfect wiki structure 
the first time around and no one wants old pages listed in their Index

page. All wiki's have a delete function and if Fossil wants to be 
considered seriously as a replacement for other project wiki's, it has 
to support delete and rename.

People are going to be attracted to fossil as an all in one package and 
if it can not provide the functionality needed in the wiki, then people 
will say why use Fossil for SCM and then have to interface in with 
another Wiki system? I now have to piece together a system, thus, why 
not just piece together a different SCM as well.

Jeremy

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[fossil-users] Replying to a message from within the archive

2010-03-02 Thread Higham, Paul
It is possible from within the mail archive to reply to the author of a
specific posting, but this is only addressed to the author.  Is it
possible from within the archive to select a specific posting and have a
reply posted to the entire set of fossil users?

 

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[fossil-users] titles in embedded documentation

2010-02-09 Thread Higham, Paul
I am using embedded documentation for a small project and I want to be
able to control the page titles, one title per .wiki file.  Is there a
way to do that using the wiki markup only or do you have to control the
whole page in html?  Left as is all the .wiki pages display with the
default title of 'Documentation' and I don't see a way of intercepting
this.

 

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