I like the name precisely because of its connotations.  Fossil records
are kept in perpetuity, are affected neither by bad weather, fashion nor
by bad management; nothing but the act of an angry god will change them.

But the connotation has to be applied to the right thing.  The intended
connotation is in regard to the way that Fossil treats the data that is
placed under its care, rather than the application itself.

Like rumours, connotations require little effort to generate and it
would be impossible to be consistent with all of them.  Hopefully, as it
was with the iPad, the inappropriate ones will just fade away.

And as for the logo, it tells me that quality products will outlast
those of the insurance companies :)

Paul Higham
Tel +1 408 522 6225
phig...@sjm.com
-----Original Message-----
From: fossil-users-boun...@lists.fossil-scm.org
[mailto:fossil-users-boun...@lists.fossil-scm.org] On Behalf Of John
Found
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 10:31
To: undisclosed-recipients
Subject: Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming...

>Unfortunately, the train has already left the station.  Fossil has been
>self-hosting since 2007 and parts of the code have been around for a
year 
>or so prior to that.  Fossil might seem like it is in "early stages of
>development" to you, since you have only just now discovered it, but it
has
>been around for quite some time now.  3.62 years - which is like half
an 
>eon in internet time, right?

I understand this. Actually 3..4 years are not so big time for so great
peace of software.
I can remember how was renamed Firefox browser - you know it was Phoenix
at the begining,
then it becomes Firebird and now it is Firefox. It is true - the reasons
was different, but...
I don't think the site have to be fancy and bright. I only pointed the
negative associations
that the name can induce in peoples minds.
Anyway. It is of course your project and your decision. I will use it
widely in the future,
simply because it is exactly what I need for my projects.


---------- Original Message ----------
To:  (fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org)
From: Richard Hipp (d...@sqlite.org)
Subject: Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming...
Date: 2.3.2011 18:01:48

>On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:54 AM, John Found <johnfo...@evrocom.net>
wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>> First mail to this mail list. Please forgive my audacity - fossil is 
>> simply gorgeous just like SQLite, but it need to be renamed as soon
as 
>> possible. :) My point is simple. IMHO, the name "Fossil" provokes
some 
>> unpleasant associations and have not very propriate connotations.
>> The same can be said for Fossil Logo - it is dark and have veri grim 
>>look. 
>> Just compare it with SQLite name and logo (btw - old logo and site of
>> sqlite was better,now they are "heavy" :) )
>> Also look at other similar systems - "Bazaar" - makes allusion with 
>> crowds of developers. "Mercurial" - something very agive, quick, 
>>versatile. 
>> The name is important for the future of the every project. And if the

>> name have to be changed - it is good to be made in earlier stages of 
>>development. 
>
>Unfortunately, the train has already left the station.  Fossil has been
>self-hosting since 2007 and parts of the code have been around for a
year 
>or so prior to that.  Fossil might seem like it is in "early stages of
>development" to you, since you have only just now discovered it, but it
has
>been around for quite some time now.  3.62 years - which is like half
an 
>eon in internet time, right?
>
>
>>
>> So, mr.Hipp, please think a little about this arguments.
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
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>
>
>
>-- 
>D. Richard Hipp
>d...@sqlite.org




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